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Civil Services Mains 2020 Results: In or Out ? Way ahead, gratitude and Pain

The Civils Mains result has been declared. This thread is for sharing your grief , joy , mixed feelings - absolutely anything and everything.



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The difference is very real. I used to prepare tea and milk on induction at our rented home because our owner wouldn't provide us with gas connection (Just another story of bachelor struggles) and tea, in particular, tasted very different. 

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I believe in cooking a lot depends on how long and at what heat you’re cooking. So people who’ve been conditioned throughout their lives to cook on gas stoves where they can see the level they’re cooking at and get a ‘real’ feel, would be pretty hesitant to shift to induction cookers. 
In our country a large plurality of our population hasn’t even accepted gas as their primary means of cooking so induction is a long ways away. 

However I sort of disagree with the difference in taste having to do anything with the medium of heat. If you talk about tea for example, the taste would depend a lot on how long you’re heating it and at what temperature, same for milk. Even when cooking on a gas stove, using the exact same ingredients, two people can make tea that tastes different. The taste of the food doesn’t really depend on what medium your heat is coming from. 
So although it can take some time but if one persists with an induction cooker, you can figure out the corresponding heating levels and get back the original taste. 

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@necromancer true, my family has been using induction for many years now, it's not a difference once you get the settings. When we started with it, my father used to say, the tea from induction loses heat more quickly, but that happened because of not knowing gas stove equivalent temperature in induction.


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18 new missions khulne the by end of 2021 in africa , whats the status? seats badegi ifs ki ?
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@SergioRamos I don't know why people prefer gas over electricity, but gas is better option for environment and reducing import bills.
A very large amount(70-85%) of heat released on burning the gas can be directly used to heat the food. 
Whereas, to make electricity first fuel is burned, and then electricity is generated. In this process a large amount(40-60% depends on the power plant) of the heat generated is lost and there will be transmission losses also. So more than double amount of fuel will be needed to produce same amount of heat. It will end up increasing the import bill and CO2. 
Electricity will be better option if it is generated by non polluting sources. 


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D503said

18 new missions khulne the by end of 2021 in africa , whats the status? seats badegi ifs ki ?

Tu comment delete krna  bnd krde fir btata hu :p

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What to write in questions where the question is itself asking to criticise the government ?  

for eg - GS 2 2020 que- “Recent amendments to the Right to information Act will have profound impact on the autonomy and independence of the Information Commission”. Discuss

In this question do we have to criticize the RTI amendment or support the government in amending it by negating this statement that it does not impact autonomy of IC.


Also what to write in this question-

Q. The questioning of stricter regulation of digital media will lead to restriction of free speech and undermining of democracy. Analyze in light of recent IT Rules 2021. 

here do we have to justify the statement that yes the rules will undermine democracy or do we have to negate this statement by supporting the government in framing of the rules.  


@whatonly @Patootie @SergioRamos @AzadHindFauz  and others

I believe that such questions should not be treated as speaking for any one "view" but assimilating all views.

Starting with the why and Constitutional and in force legal provisions is a good start. In parts where criticism is mandated, like in the draft EIA, you will have to write that it does dilute accountability a bit. There are no two ways around it. The problem arises when if you go outrightly reject the policy. And this is the middle path for me. Do not outrightly reject the policy, but do point out the lacunae. 

For example, in the same EIA question, we can come up with conclusions like yes there is a need for EIA amendment due to the huge backlog of projects restricting us from realising our economic potential. And a few pointers on how it should address the problem of ecosystem fragility, negative externalities etc.

Similarly, in the IT rules question, you can argue how the completely unregulated online platforms have caused problems worldwide, and rules-based order is necessary to make them more safe, secure, and answerable to the govt. authorities. Then point out the *possible* effects it can have on privacy and free speech and how it can be addressed by a transparent and accountable regulatory framework.  Just don't use extremely harsh words like surveillance, democracy in trouble, things like that.

The reason for giving out both sides is that I don't think blindly toeing to the government's line will be appreciated either. A critical and balanced approach is what they look for in the papers I feel.

Thanks for the perspective bro!

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D503said

18 new missions khulne the by end of 2021 in africa , whats the status? seats badegi ifs ki ?

Tu comment delete krna  bnd krde fir btata hu :p


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What to write in questions where the question is itself asking to criticise the government ?  

for eg - GS 2 2020 que- “Recent amendments to the Right to information Act will have profound impact on the autonomy and independence of the Information Commission”. Discuss

In this question do we have to criticize the RTI amendment or support the government in amending it by negating this statement that it does not impact autonomy of IC.


Also what to write in this question-

Q. The questioning of stricter regulation of digital media will lead to restriction of free speech and undermining of democracy. Analyze in light of recent IT Rules 2021. 

here do we have to justify the statement that yes the rules will undermine democracy or do we have to negate this statement by supporting the government in framing of the rules.  


@whatonly @Patootie @SergioRamos @AzadHindFauz  and others

When the question itself contains an element of criticism, my approach was to give the criticism in the answer but also show that I know more about it than just the criticism, and suggest a way forward. I think the examiner would be looking for a 360 degree understanding of the topic and knowledge of any compulsions the government may be under.

For a topic on which there were at least some positives, however small, I would state these and say that while some benefits are there, some changes are also required to align with the spirit of the constitution/the law itself.

For a topic on which I couldn’t identify any positives (which would be rare), I would write the stated objectives of the move as a positive, and say that while the objectives are important, they are either not being achieved, or need to be harmonised with other responsibilities of the state (as the case may be).

I think the criticism itself is best based on constitutional provisions, past judicial verdicts, other laws etc as @AzadHindFauz said. Virtually anything that is bad on account of undermining equality, freedom of choice, federal structure, separation of powers etc can be traced back to something in the Constitution, at least to the Preamble. For more specific grounds a verdict can be quoted if possible. At the same time, it’s good to acknowledge whatever imperatives were stated by the government (national security, law and order etc.)

Thankfully such questions can be pretty much predicted, and we can collect these points beforehand.

EiChan,AzadHindFauzand5 otherslike this
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Please suggest a source for society portion of gs paper 1.

Vision ias value addition seems obsolete to me. 

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Please suggest a source for society portion of gs paper 1.

Vision ias value addition seems obsolete to me. 

Vajiram Yellow Book may be. Personally found Vision material good or may be i havent referred many sources apart from these 2.

Your optional will tc of not making it obsolete.


Jai Shree Ram !


EiChan,sjerngal
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Please suggest a source for society portion of gs paper 1.

Vision ias value addition seems obsolete to me. 

Vision monthlies/mains 365 should cover most of the current issues. Apart from that I think Vision VAM (updated ones with the fancy covers came out last year) should really suffice. You can always collect statistics separately to add value.

sjerngal,
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Can view this to have possible policy for unemployment related question and economics recovery 

Nice points coming out of the discussion 


sjerngal,
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D503said

D503said

18 new missions khulne the by end of 2021 in africa , whats the status? seats badegi ifs ki ?

Tu comment delete krna  bnd krde fir btata hu :p


Deleting comments is yourguroor? Noice, really noice :D

Aurora,EiChanand4 otherslike this
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"One may snatch a nap amidst raging fire. But can not sleep a wink in poverty dire."

How would you interpret the above topic if you were to write an essay on that?

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D503said

18 new missions khulne the by end of 2021 in africa , whats the status? seats badegi ifs ki ?


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D503said

18 new missions khulne the by end of 2021 in africa , whats the status? seats badegi ifs ki ?


2020 recruitment has seen some increase in IFS seats. From 24 to 36 total seats.

2021 cse vacancy sheettentativelyindicates 37. 

So, yes, we are witnessing an increase. 

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@Usain_bolt what about mains 2021 date? 


No idea sirji.

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Any serious UPSC CSE 2021 candidate from BHOPAL ( M.P) who relies on library/ peer group for studies..Library setting in MP Nagar Area..4-5 people only( 1 seat vacant)..All covid protocols followed..AC- RO available..Properly ventilated..No problem of library getting closed or anything due to lockdown..Only motivated candidates ( UPSC only) message as peer group is extremely small ..Preferably mains/ interview given but not a caveat..
babu_bisleri,
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Any serious UPSC CSE 2021 candidate from BHOPAL ( M.P) who relies on library/ peer group for studies..Library setting in MP Nagar Area..4-5 people only( 1 seat vacant)..All covid protocols followed..AC- RO available..Properly ventilated..No problem of library getting closed or anything due to lockdown..Only motivated candidates ( UPSC only) message as peer group is extremely small ..Preferably mains/ interview given but not a caveat..
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