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Mains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread

@vvvikas0078212

Last two years results declared in 67 and 73 days. So we can assume 70 days this year. So around 10 December.

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@Raptor22

It's BY 20 December, not ON 20 Dec

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This thread is deserted now. Seems everyone is back to studies.

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Someone please tell me some telegram group where mains 2019 related bakar happens.

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@Rags

Yes, true.

Annual report of upsc.

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@sidd

Chill bro

Last time I wrote casually yet I had 173 marks.

Marking is liberal.

Even after leaving 80 if you have done other questions satisfactorily u r safe.

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@TeddyWestside

Wrote CWMI of NITI Aayog, Mihir Shah report

Map divided regionally, problems n prospect

New ministry on water, making water issue a people's movement n all like Swachh bharat abhiyan

Case studies like Ralegan Siddi of Anna Hazare, Rajendra Singh, the waterman of India n all

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@vvvikas0078212

Maybe I got more marks.

That's y people were suggesting me to switch to Hindi optional when I had posted my mark sheet.

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@vvvikas0078212

My 173 was in 2016.

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@pysh12950

Good bro.

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Lets discuss mains related things here than finding
lost DL, keys, pen drive etc,
lost girlfriend (who ditched us in our upsc journey),
lost memory n brilliance (which we had before Indian rotten education system n upsc took away),
lost morale (which we had till we resigned from our high paying glittering private sector jobs),
lost hope (which we had till our first attempt), lodt direction of life (which we had till unending series of failures started with civil services journey),
lost idealism n ethics (which we had till facing this selfish n ruthless world)

Take it lightly. No offense. Wrote it just for fun.

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@TeddyWestside

U r completely right bro. I do agree.

But I wrote no that I wrote the post only for some laughter. I m sorry if it hurts anyone especially you. No intentions to cause hurt.

But if u depersonalize yourself from the content n u wud love it.

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@TeddyWestside

Thanks bro.

In present day so called intolerant India, I c tolerance alive in u.??

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@Dreadful

Thanks to you all for liking this comment

???

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@Dreadful

Please ignore it.

My friend has mischievously posted this without my knowledge. Just he revealed it.

My apologies.

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@surendra19

Someone said me that it will be declared only after Forest mains even if results is ready before it. Any idea ??

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@ranyo_asoka

Was it declared before Forest mains ??

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@ranahere999

Yes

Me too

My friend too

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@dancingminion

Yes

I hv seen some toppers copy of optional mains. Committed repeated spelling mistakes especially in technical words n name of scholars yet managed around 300.

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@mounikamouni24-h944

No problem at all

My friend has did the same in essay booklet yet his copy waa evaluated

Don't spoil mood over these minor mistakes

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@atulji

I wrote on individual vs society, Artificial Intelligence

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@Lost

People doing their best humor by spreading mann ki baat type rumor to make this thread ever more interesting.

Good. At least its helping to ward off the result anxiety.

Banao mahaul.

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@Asli_hai_sab

Ye update to asli hai na my Asli_hai_sab brother.????

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Someone telling me today that around 200 seats has been added in 2019 vacancy.

Did someone hear like this or am I a victim of fake news ??

Anybody has any such info ??

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Even I was told by a reliable friend of friend about massive increase of about 200.

But can't b sure till its not from the horse's mouth ie upsc itself.

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Someone called upsc ??

Lets begin a Civil Dialling Movement (like Civil Disobedience Movement ).???

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@kumar-rohit1308647

Website dekhte rahiye (as if its Aishwarya Rai's face or some entertainment channel)

1 week aur

Xyz number pe call kijiye

Abhi main vacation pe hu

Lunch k baad call kijiye

Kuch din me aa jayega

Kah nhi sakte

??????

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@RealMango

Everyone willing to know the same from others.

We all are in the same boat buddy.

So chill.

Abhi sabki fati padi rahti h, bhale hi selection k baad kita bhi fekne lage log??

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@vvvikas0078212

No mock interview ?? Cruel joke.

My friend had in 2016 n 2017 cutoff plus 50 marks. He's the only son n momma's boy type so parents didn't allow him to come to Delhi for interview preparation. Both the times he got marks in 130s. He has not been yet selected n changed the course of his career.

Now take a call whether to join or not.

Moral of the story:--UPSC preparation me jyada cheetah nhi banna chahiye, nhi to upsc kah k le leti h.

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@vvvikas0078212

Yes bro, I got it.

To buttress your argument only I cited this real life horror incidence.

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@zombieland

Bhai plz name the guy else can't stop laughing n can't digest it.

Its Manohar kahaniya type fictitious story or maybe exceptional one but certainly not a rule so can't n generalized. I remember my childhood days in Bihar where such false stories were replete to fool others.

Ye to Rapidex English speaking course ( speak English in a month) se bhi fast nikla re bhai.?

Chacha Chaudhary se bhi tej dimaag ( jo khud computer se bhi tej tha). Means he was not IAS but India's fastest supercomputer I guess.

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@zombieland

Some people are Karun Nayar, who accidentally gets triple century (read success) but don't cross even 30s in next so many innings.

Even Tej Pratap Yadav (Lalu Yadav's) son became youngest health minister but now him being a psycho mental is an open secret.

Some success too r accidental.

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Agree to your point too but upsc is not altogether flawless n luck has a great role to play.

In interview in 30 minutes your whole life script decided. Marks ranging from 90 to 220. Isn't there luck factor ??

Ira Singhal got from 150s to 200s in her different attempts. Y?? Is personality so volatile ?

Even my IPS friend of 2015 batch got 2 previous interview scores in 190s but when selected had only 150. Reason ??

Mains too is vague. I won't go anywhere else, my experience itself is illustrative. I WAS GIVEN only 49 in paper 3 in 2015 but110 in 2016. Even I had all India highest score of 168 out of 300 in 2016 IFoS mains gs paper. Reason ??

In my first attempt in 2014 without writing a single essay I got 127 which is equivalent to 140s of 2017 but ended up in just 121 in 2016 mains after writing so many essays. Reason??

There r so many such discrepancies.

So please stop living in dream world n thinking everything is just perfect with upsc. It has its own limitations.

Just 2-3 papers n interview accidental marks can push one into IAS n you become like of Karun Nayar n Tej Pratap Yadav.

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@bevancom

Yaar my point is that every year there are around 4000 people at similar level of knowledge, preparation etc. What takes those 4000 into the holy list of 1000 is luck.

So neither hard work nor luck alone is sufficient. After a certain level of labor you do need luck to propel you to success.

Labor is the substratum n luck is the catalyst of the chemical reaction called success.

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@Jharsuguda

Thanks bro.

Ppl say half truth n dialogues about hardwork n ignore luck.

If hard work alone n no luck then g Atal Bihari Vajpayee waited 40 years to become PM but Rajeev Gandhi got it so easily. Was A B Vajpayee lazy n Rajeev the most hardworking in India that time.

In 2009 election Manmohan became PM n the ine who worked the hardest throughout his life for PM post ie Advani never became PM.

I don't want to engage in useless debate here but labour is over exaggerated n luck ignored.

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@Katsumoto

My case is different altogether.

I have not said to anyone about what I m doing. Plus I have requested my parents also to observe silence. I m kind of living underground n have vanished from public space.

Benefit is that there is cushion for failure.

Negative is that it makes me complacent at times. I feel some pressure is must to drive you to success.

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There is no easy walk to freedom anywhere, and many of us will have to pass through the valley of the shadow of death again and again before we reach the mountaintop of our desires.

Success? I don't know what that word means. I'm happy. For me, success is inner peace.

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With delay in results I think the rumours of seat increase ( between 100 to 280 according to different sources) might come true !!!!!!!!!!!

Just a conjecture !!!!!! No one except UPSC knows for sure.

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@Chanakya

Where have they released ?? Any document please ??

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@tsssaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@ManchesterUnitedwe should be analysing the thngs in a dispassionate way.Supporting or opposing a law or govt action should be based on merit.
Left leaning intellectuals find everything wrong whatever govt is doing,again bhakts find everything that is done is good.However,truth lies in between.
I dont find CAB bad orunconstitutional.Itwould have been better if tamils,shia and Ahmediya etc are also included.However,deficiency does not make it a anti constitutionallaw.Tosupport and provide shelter to minorities persecuted in our neighbourhood is our moral and civlizational duty.Where does hindutva come into the picture?If you have anti RSS/BJP elements in your DNA then stringent traffic rules also can be interpreted as anti-muslims as police is perceived to be anti muslim.Leftists support vehemently for the entry of displaced muslims from arab world,but for other communities persecuted by muslims they are silent.
CAB is in principle good and we should welcome it.There is nothing in the law that violate any provision ofconstitution.HMis gunda or not its immaterial to the issue.if you want to do politics like what our media is doing today its your choice but does not impact the merit of the case.

To my mind CAB is a long overdue n should have been brought soon after partition. You can't have a country for one community who wipe out 25% of the other community from their land, Kashmir and further encroach North East n everywhere.

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@Yes_I_am_in

If person like Amit Shah is evaluator I will write this one only. But I know the same funtellectuals evaluates.

Violence begets violence is half truth but read JUST WAR THEORY as well. Read any scriptures n violence per se is not wrong. Violence for right cause is right. Violence ends violence also.

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@kochikaame

Sometimes calling spade a spade is warranted.

History is a continuous stream so events, time past n present r all related n can't b compartmentalized. So referring to other while talking about one is not whereaboutery. Had there been any outrage now if illegal immigration by bangladeshis, rohinguas were opposed earlier ??

If Gandhi n Nehru r the only 2 heroes of freedom struggle then who caised partition ?? Some ghost ?? Give credit to them but who will own blames ??

So please have broader perspective of things n events n think with calm nerves.

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@kochikaame

All the best bro. Wish your dreams come true this time.

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Every exam is tailored on the demands of the duty than merit alone. UPSC CSE had to b as such- uncertain, time taking, difficult situation, pulls and pressure, determination, perseverance to name a few.

For example, effort to nab Dawood Ibrahim, terrorists, criminals may linger for years for IPS. settling boundary issue with our neighbors is going since centuries(IFS), Development is a journey not a stoppage (IAS) and any other services in CSE for that matter. Talent and brilliance alone can't solve many problems.

So this exam tests a candidate on all these parameters directly or indirectly. Few lucky n super talented souls get away in the first attempt itself is more exception than rule.

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@Kira0705

Any precedence of results declaration on Saturday-sunday?????

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This time UPSC seems to have trained its gun on insiders as well along with coaching world.

No successful insider this time. Intriguing it is.

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@kartikayias234

Now people saying 26-27 December. EWS issue has allegedly caused the delay.

Donno what's transpiring at UPSC.

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@kartikayias234

This is old issue.

I too applied under EWS but got certificate on August 5.

UPSC didn't issue mains admit card to those who cleared prelims under EWS (but had prelims marks less than the general category), but couldn't give certificate dated before 31st July.

There were around 300 such candidates. Around 15 of the 300 signed as petitioner n approached Delhi High Court (or CAT, I don't exactly remember). The judiciary ruled that UPSC issue admit card to the petitioners (only 15 petitioners, not all 300 affected were given relief. Donno what the rest 285 odd ppl wud do). That's all I know.

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I was a victim of this. Attended my sister's marriage then I underwent two back to back surgeries.

Results was declared on 12th n my interview was on 28th. No time for preparation??

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I personally feel that EWS will have minimum 10-20 marks less cutoff at mains stage.

Delay in results is intriguing n points towards sth big happening.

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We should give EWS Certificate at time but UPSC is not accountable for timely results blaming EWS issue ???

Notification for EWS certificate came on 12 Feb.

After that officials r busy in election duty n students r busy preparing for prelims. After prelims huge rush to Offices, complete confusion regarding procedure, format, certificates required n all.

UPSC should have been more lenient regarding EWS given it was the first time n all above issues.

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@TETRACYCLINE

Bhai given the first time, nationwide general election, confusion, difficulty in getting land, income certificate, prelims exam, most aspirants away from home I think time was not enough.

Rest your point is also valid.

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@abhinav23raj436
Mains Results 12 April
Interview began from 27 April.

So just 15 days.

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@bevancom

Hi Sir,

Can you please share what went wrong in essay that you couldn't get another 24 marks n score 250 out of 250.

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@tmblnd1325194

Maybe may not be

At max it will require change in DAF-2 Format of the Service Prefer column, which requires a minor IT tinkering. But its India, anything can cause delay.

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@BulbulSen

Some people even predicting re-exam means the mains wr b conducted again. Height of..................

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@abc123

This exam is for Generalists not for Specialists position so obviously dexterity n depth is less appreciated than the width of knowledge.

Obviously this exam is not to show your prowess in a particular stream of knowledge but general wider understanding of things around you.
By this logic finance minister sd b d best economist, Prime Minister the best pol science fellow or lawyer, health minister the best doctor, defence minister the best soldier. This is completely rubbish.
Its all our media, Bollywood, parents who have planted in our tender mind that the only way to prove your worth in this life is by clearing this exam.

Civil service aspirants come to preparation for so many non-sense reasons like revenge from girlfriend/boyfriend, supersede your neighbors, relatives, competitors, avenue to gain power to settle scores with enemies n what not.

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@abc123

That specialization is being discouraged by USPC is amply clear from 2013 pattern change.

  1. Prelims-----only GS now, one optional as another paper removed. Even technical CSAT is only qualifying.

  2. Mains----- only one optional paper 500, GS 1000 ( before 2013 it was 2 optionals each 300 means 600 optional n GS 3 papers only, marks I m not sure).

  3. Personality Test----- Not much questions from one's educational background like engineering, MBBS and all but general understanding type questions only.

Hope I m clear.

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@majormiketango

100%

If no probable date,it can come any day.

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@Yo_Yo_Choti_Singh

Hello Sir,

You have been a gem and a very respected member of the forum for so long.

Your perseverance, rationality, helping nature, maturity, politeness to name just a few of your qualities have been no secret to long time members.

Please don't waste your energy n creativity in arguing with those who don't appreciate it.

The harsh reality of the life is the biggest teacher and everyone will have their D-day.

Respect to you from the bottom of my heart.

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Patience is not just about waiting for something... it's about how you wait, or your attitude while waiting.

So true for this delayed mains results. Keep right attitude also for personality test following the results. Great life lessons UPSC circuitous journey gives us.

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@TETRACYCLINE

Last two mains I had 98 and 115. Lemme c this time.

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@TETRACYCLINE

No no.

98 in 2014 and 115 in 2016.

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Take a leap of faith and begin this wondrous new year by believing. Believe in yourself. And believe that there is a loving Source - a Sower of Dreams - just waiting to be asked to help you make your dreams come true.

Happy New year to all of you.

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What it takes upsc to just put a message on its website informing candidates about probable date after delay in Digital India ??????? Insensitive, unprofessional.

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@visionman

Its only declaring result, not eradicating poverty from India that there can't b any idea about probable date. UPSC can't b shielded from all discrepancies just by saying emotional things that it conducts the toughest exam, maintain standards and all.

If Indian Railways, Delhi metro can communicate to its clientele about possible delay despite running such large rail network with so many uncertainties, y can't UPSC inform aspirants about delay ???

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@visionman

Agree to you that there may be some pressing reason for delay and we should not outrageously blame upsc.

But I didn't understand logic like constitutional body,low exam fee, they r not forcing anyone to write exam n all.

Anyways its your perspective which can be different from mine n can still be valuable !!!!!!

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UPSC is more reliable than Arun Saxena, as far as I know !!!!!

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@paris

Last year the gap was 50 days. Results, if this week then already delayed by 30 days.(Considering 70 days for mains results). So I guess within 20-25 days, interview will begin.

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@Phagocyte

Maybe.

I m telling based on 2014 experience when 15 days only was the gap.

But now considering DAF-2 also to be filled (unlike in 2014 when DAF was filled before mains itself), it may be few more days than 15 days.

Let's c.

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@sharmarajiv9888818

Absolutely no problem. Just relax.

My friend had not written the same in his essay booklet. Despite me saying it won't affect in anyway he was worried. He didn't clear mains which further cemented his fears. Finally when marks were released he had scored in 140s. Then he repented for living in unfounded fear for months !!!!!!!!!!

I hope you don't tread the same path by making a mountain out
of a molehill.

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@kochikaame

IFS used to be the first choice till economic reforms of 1991.

Pros n cons you maybe knowing I guess. Rest is your personal choice.

Quality of life is way above IAS because no political pressure, better residence, facilities, status, respect n all.

But if you're like in love with the land n culture of India or your state n all, u wd not survive in that service.

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@ManchesterUnited

It's very true.

If you don't have contacts you will end up serving Tanzania, Uganda Rawanda, Burundi n all n will never c US, Britain, France n all.

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Any chance of CAT verdict today ??

Any possibility of results this week ??

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@AzadHindFauz

I had applied under EWS. Got certificate dated 6th August. But didn't uploaded in DAF 1 because UPSC said not to upload dated after 31st July.

Now what ?? I wd be considered EWS or General ??

Folks please shed some light on it.

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@TETRACYCLINE

What if I make a representation to UPSC as the date now is extended to 16th August.

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@shubham-bhargava2711491

Aisi bhayanak aur darawani baate na karo bhai. Aise hi lagi padi h.....

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@Caesar

No. For pre I selected ews.

While filling DAF there was no option to upload certificate if it was dated after 31 july. So I didn't upload so now converted into general.

But what now when the date has been extended to 16th.

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Anyone having CAT verdict ????

Where can we get it ?? Website link or something ??

Please share.

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@AzadHindFauz

Salute bro.

We all owe thanks to your nerve calming, timely, precise, regular updates.

Your mild gesture, accessibility, responsiveness was soothing for many in this uncertain environment.

Thanks n all the best bro.

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@AzadHindFauz

As always you proved the most trustworthy source !!!!!!!

We r lucky to have people like you among us.

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@AzadHindFauz

When can we expect it bro. Any idea ??

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@deceptrix

Bhai don't feel bad but my personal opinion--this person is high level bakcho.....?.

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Out with Anthro

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