I too support the non-inclusion of CSAT in the SFG papers. Agreed that CSAT does play an important role, i feel it would not be helpful here. the people who are good at CSAT will get a false sense of achievement when their ranks would improve due to CSAT scores while those who are good at GS would not be able to judge their CSAT performance due to their rank improvement because of GS. i feel separate modules would be better for GS and CSAT.
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Unpopular opinion:
I do not think there should be same fees for both SFG and RLG.
- Correlation of fees with marks acts as a motivator.
- if you think that it will surely make people cheat, you are mistaken. It is only partially true. Yes it will make people cheat, but for how long? If anyone of you reading this comment has observed human nature, you would have concluded that this defies logic. You can not/will not cheat to stay in a group for mere questions!!! I mean these questions might even show up in telegram the next day.
- So why would one want to pay (and cheat), when s/he knows s/he will get the questions anyway!?
- in nutshell, only those guys would participate in the tests, who believe in the SPIRIT OF SFG, i.e. self discipline, performance tracking and competition.
- moreover, people complaining about cheating in digital tests, well, what did you expect? We are not even honest with our parents and you expect candidates to be honest while attempting tests? Which utopia do you live in?
- however if@forumiasacademy analyse the server timings and conclude that the chunk of candidates is huge who have unrealistic timings and scores, they can always avoid grouping candidates just based on the entrance tests. Instead, initially everyone can be a part of one group only and then on the basis of 2-3 weeks’ performances two groups can be formed.
- also@forumiasacademy could look into disabling right clicks and cut copy pastes. This might help in allaying some fears.
- HOWEVER, if they decide not to do this, we can not do anything as it is a private venture and not Cuba. So please rein your abusive horses.
Hey, thank you for acknowledging the feedbacks. Can you elaborate the idea of community sfg?
I have no problem in scheduling some pdf uploads. But 10 PM Quiz is already being posted, you want to create a ranking mechanism in it? And it'll be free, but 10PM quiz already is!?
But 10 PM Quiz is mostly current affairs and sfg is a 50 question, syllabus based test. Just demarcating the difference.
Hoping to hear from you!
Cheers.
Of Course!
Look how wonderfully some people are doing it :)
People are already doing what you want to do :)
Why we talk so much about culture is because see, students are already in stress. There is already so much negativity in the world. If we need more negativity, all of us have relatives :)
When we were doing the forum well with good moderation, ( Like if you write Hindi, moderator would edit and type it in English ) we would have ranks like 1,2,3,5,7,8,9,10 from this forum itself - just check out 2013 / 14 years.
When discussion quality was unmoderated, it went down and down and we moved focus on the academy. We got ranks 1,3,5,7,8,10,11,13 from our academy. The whole good crowd of forum shifted to the academy.
All we did was provide a good environment. People get selected on their own.
With this community also the goal is to create a good environment and you will be surprised that among you people itself you will have at least 5 ranks out of Top 10 ranks of CSE 2020 and CSE 2021 .
When we get good discussions , Basically two things happen.
One, good people come. They are driven away when there is too much crap or negative things - even if genuine , and if it is against our academy or any other academy. Then it becomes a culture. You have a coaching problem, come and write something on forum.
More than that, a lot of people who are in remote areas and don't know anything about preparation, for the first time come to know about how actually people prepare. See this.
There is no learning more than peer learning. In the end you will get selected because someone here guided you ( not even taught you - but guided you ) . And it will be some peer of yours with the right buddhi.
See the kind of stuff people are sharing.
If we get the culture right, you will see that automatically the average level of the user of this website will rise like anything , and even you will benefit from it.
It takes a lot to develop a culture. Lot of time and effort.
So even if this looks totalitarian , anti-democratic it is important that we have a healthy and knowledge oriented culture here.
See, the academy will thrive completely on the basis of quality. We have realized that. If quality is good, we will have a good word of mouth reference. If people who are getting selected don't think that we were useful for them, they will not send their juniors, siblings and others to forum.
But for the community to thrive, we have to have limits on what we can say and what we cannot say, because we are not twitter or quora or facebook. We are ForumIAS.
And deep inside, we know that selection in this exam is very less, but do you realise that if you have good contributing people here, the readers minds will open. Once the minds are open they will crack one Top exam, even if something does not work out in Civils ( Think from an elder guardian perspective, not a student perspective on this part )
We all are the average of 5 people we interact with. And we want to meet good people here.
Let not one initiative of the forum monopolise the conversation. And let us not stoop below a level. Lets build something nice.
Now off to tomorrows Test, or else again server will crash tomorrow. Or something will go wrong!
Regarding justice and injustice on the forum , injustice will be there. Some people will take advantage. In offline also at least 300+ students didnt pay the fees and wrote tests until we came up with the App based attendance.
Aaj ka itna hi hai,
Bye Bye!
Hi, could someone pls share the link to access the excel sheet in the picture? it is titled "combined performance of modified SFGs".. I saw a link for comparing marks of Insights subject wise tests, are there any other such sheets?
Hi,i created that sheet for 2nd sfg tests during june to july,now as sfg 2.0 started i removed the link from it.(also it was not updated since 20 days)
Can we have another one for sfg 2.0?
@root @jack_Sparrow I am not getting any notifications (of replies) except channel posts. Kindly assist. TIA
@AJ_ That defeats the whole purpose of sfg. It's main purpose is to inculcate discipline. That will only happen when you know you have to give the test in the morning whether syllabus is complete or not
+1. In fact I was going to suggest to shorten the time window back to 1 hour if server issues have been fully resolved.
