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Mains 2021 Result declared - In or Out?

So Mains 2021 has begun. Essay Paper is here

1. https://blog.forumias.com/upsc-ias-mains-2021-essay-question-paper/


2. GS Paper 1 : https://blog.forumias.com/download-upsc-ias-mains-2021-gs-1-question-paper

3. GS Paper 2 : https://blog.forumias.com/download-upsc-ias-mains-2021-gs-2-question-paper 






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root,Neyawnand26 otherslike this
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The argument of cheap and quick money does not hold ground. Lakhs of students apply for post of teacher where extra source of income is almost nil. (Those who r not headmaster)

The main reason is higher pay for lower skill atleast at lower levels. For instance a driver in open market can get maximum12 k to 15k. But in public sector it may go upto 35 to 40k with many additional benefits. 


Good point of people applying for teacher where extra income is almost 'nil'.
In answer to this, I would like to highlight the issue of poor status of government schools. Even if the teacher is not earning extra, many of them are just there for passing time and chilling instead of providing education to kids. I consider this as a way of making cheap money. Because, without doing anything and being absent for long period, you are still getting full salary.
Plus, there is a lot of quid pro quo among headmasters and teachers in school admissions, mid day meal, money for purchasing clothes etc.


People have suffered enough from hands of babus. So, they themselves want to become babus and do the same. This is the sad truth :(

I have seen people asking not the expected salary for the post applied rather how much 'upper waala income' one can get from that service. Be it for peon, driver, clerk or teacher.

Generalization of teachers is not good. I have seen teachers in government schools working very diligently whatever duties are assigned to them. They are burdened with examination duties, election duties, even census works are carried on by them. The success of major government programs like MDM etc are due to the exemplary work done by thousands of teachers out there.

On the other hand there were also teachers in my private school who just came to class, read the chapters, whiled away their time, picked up their salaries and went happily to their homes. There are people like this on both sides - Government as well as private. The thing is we should not put everyone under the same blanket. 

My point was not to generalize anyone or anything. I respect all professions and teachers most.
I wanted to point out inherent inefficiency in government services everywhere, be it in Judiciary, Offices etc. Teacher point was selectively put to counter my argument.


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My point was not to generalize anyone or anything. I respect all professions and teachers most.
I wanted to point out inherent inefficiency in government services everywhere, be it in Judiciary, Offices etc. Teacher point was selectively put to counter my argument.


Got it. But what exactly is inefficiency? Is it lack of profit? 

RaGa,
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Ok, I will just give few example so that the discussion is just not on teachers. I am sorry if anyone got hurt due to statements on teachers. I respect teachers most.

This is based on my own experiences and few of my friends who are working at PSUs or government departments to point out the inefficient system

1. Fire Safety engineer at Bombay High - A minor fire was there. The seniors did not want to report it because it can have a negative impact on their career profile.
 Result - A major fire took place few days later and my friend had to put his own life at stake to douse that fire. And yeah, they gave him an award for his bravery.

2. Biometric Attendance system not working at a renowned PSU - No one to correct it so that it can reveal the truth of their attendance. My friend took and tried to correct it. Nothing happened.

3. The street light in my locality failed. I wrote a mail and few of locality members visited the main office. No one came to fix that light. The employee came after 20 days and asked Rs. 100 for 'chai paani'

4.  Friend travelled in a train. Asked TTE to somehow give a confirmed birth from RAC. A waiting ticket person paid 100 and got the confirmed birth

5. Poor person wanted to get date at civil court. Peshkar asked him to pay Rs. 100. Person had come on cycle from ~20 KM. He had to give that money. In lunch, he had brought roti, namak and achar. Trust me, I am not making this up.

6. Friend wanted to submit his affidavit in SDM court. The peon asked him to pay 500. As per him, There were more than 100 affidavits submitted in that office that day.

This is how inefficient our things are. Privatisation may not be the solution but the current solution is rotten to the core. Just do the bare minimum and stick to the traditions. You will go high. :(

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Ok, I will just give few example so that the discussion is just not on teachers. I am sorry if anyone got hurt due to statements on teachers. I respect teachers most.

This is based on my own experiences and few of my friends who are working at PSUs or government departments to point out the inefficient system

1. Fire Safety engineer at Bombay High - A minor fire was there. The seniors did not want to report it because it can have a negative impact on their career profile.

Result - A major fire took place few days later and my friend had to put his own life at stake to douse that fire. And yeah, they give him an award for his bravery.

2. Biometric Attendance system not working at a renowned PSU - No one to correct it so that it can reveal the truth of true attendance profile. My friend took and tried to correct it. Nothing happened.

3. The street light in my locality failed. I wrote a mail and few of locality members visited the main office. No one came to fix that light. The employee came after 20 days and asked Rs. 100 for 'chai paani'

4.  Friend travelled in a train. Asked TTE to somehow give a confirmed birth from RAC. A waiting ticket person paid 100 and got the confirmed birth

5. Poor person wanted to get date at civil court. Peshkar asked him to pay Rs. 100. Person had come on cycle from ~20 KM.

6. Friend wanted to submit his affidavit in SDM court. The peon asked him to pay 500. As per him, There were more than 100 affidavits submitted in that office that day.

This is how inefficient our things are. Privatisation may not be the solution but the current solution is rotten to the core.

Good points. However similar inefficiencies are in the private sector too. 

1. Wanted to get my washing machine serviced. Kept complaining to the company, no response. 6 months went by. Posted on social media, bam next day guy arrives with all his tools like he would invent washing machine. 

2. People jump ahead in line in the recruitment process through referrals. I am sure that's not very efficient. 


There are many more examples similar to this. Yes a blanket privatisation is definitely not the solution. The current system should be made more efficient. 

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My point was not to generalize anyone or anything. I respect all professions and teachers most.
I wanted to point out inherent inefficiency in government services everywhere, be it in Judiciary, Offices etc. Teacher point was selectively put to counter my argument.


Got it. But what exactly is inefficiency? Is it lack of profit? 

Its just that those who want to do something, they are punished somehow.
So, there is no incentive or drive left for them.

In private, somehow you can have more decision making space with accountability. I had joined a company as a fresher few years back. I was given ownership of a new project and freedom to execute my plans. The seniors respected your opinion and gave theirs also.
 Same year, my friend at Bombay high also wanted to execute his plans but he was sidelined. Now, he has 'adjusted' to the system.

In private, it is 'Perform or Perish'. In govt departments, it is 'Adjust or Perish'.
No generalization though :)


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Good points. However similar inefficiencies are in the private sector too. 

1. Wanted to get my washing machine serviced. Kept complaining to the company, no response. 6 months went by. Posted on social media, bam next day guy arrives with all his tools like he would invent washing machine. 

2. People jump ahead in line in the recruitment process through referrals. I am sure that's not very efficient. 


There are many more examples similar to this. Yes a blanket privatisation is definitely not the solution. The current system should be made more efficient. 

Yes, your point 1 is spot on. You can use social media to raise your grievances in private sector. Because, for them their brand image is paramount. In government departments, there is nothing like that.

Though, I agree that few government services have also improved. Like Railway grievance redressal etc. One tweet and the railway officials come to hear your issues in the train. But, these examples are very few in other departments.

Hopefully, those of us who get selected will give their best to change this scenario and will work towards achieving  antyodaya:)
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Anyone having trouble retaining attention in studies...? Clocking 12-14 hours during mains weeks has come down to 1-2 hours max now. Last year I wasted 3-4 months in similar situation so I can see a disaster in making but cant avert it...

History repeating itself first as tragedy and now as farce....

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Anyone having trouble retaining attention in studies...? Clocking 12-14 hours during mains weeks has come down to 1-2 hours max now. Last year I wasted 3-4 months in similar situation so I can see a disaster in making but cant avert it...

History repeating itself first as tragedy and now as farce....

make daily plans and for a week or two sleep for 9+ hours. This will have two benifits, one you will wake up relaxed and two the guilt of oversleeping will hopefully encourage you to give most of rest hours to productive work.

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is there anyone who sleeps in the day and remains awake throughout night?
GaryVee,
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is there anyone who sleeps in the day and remains awake throughout night?

I got 99 problems but being nocturnal ain't one :p


Antineutrino ,Omenand6 otherslike this
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@D503 that's not a problem but a blessing 😭😭


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Is there any free online certificate course on social/developmental issues? Pls share if anyone has an idea


Minimum fee also fine 

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in order to prepare psychologically for impending failure in upsc cse  i steadily embraced nihilism atleast partially. we all shall die irrespective of anything. it gave me real peace but sadly also made me lethargic. i remember leaving questions in upsc because of lack of interest and fighting spirit . this carelessness and dull attitude is due to nihilism. so while nihilism is great it has it's own shortcomings.
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Is there any free online certificate course on social/developmental issues? Pls share if anyone has an idea


Minimum fee also fine 

Coursera will have a few. Certification is free if you sign up for financial aid saying you're a student. Not sure how much the certificates are worth though, and they probably won't be very India-specific. You could check out the humanities courses on NPTEL too.

tarun17,
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@almondbrittle will look into it , thanks


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in order to prepare psychologically for impending failure in upsc cse  i steadily embraced nihilism atleast partially. we all shall die irrespective of anything. it gave me real peace but sadly also made me lethargic. i remember leaving questions in upsc because of lack of interest and fighting spirit . this carelessness and dull attitude is due to nihilism. so while nihilism is great it has it's own shortcomings.

In that context,ur nick is quite interesting. 

Sorry but kal hi pdha tha -  आँख के अंधे, नाम नयनसुख. 

chamomile,Shubz
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in order to prepare psychologically for impending failure in upsc cse  i steadily embraced nihilism atleast partially. we all shall die irrespective of anything. it gave me real peace but sadly also made me lethargic. i remember leaving questions in upsc because of lack of interest and fighting spirit . this carelessness and dull attitude is due to nihilism. so while nihilism is great it has it's own shortcomings.

Camus idea on absurdity is perfect antidote to existential nihilism

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in order to prepare psychologically for impending failure in upsc cse  i steadily embraced nihilism atleast partially. we all shall die irrespective of anything. it gave me real peace but sadly also made me lethargic. i remember leaving questions in upsc because of lack of interest and fighting spirit . this carelessness and dull attitude is due to nihilism. so while nihilism is great it has it's own shortcomings.

In that context,ur nick is quite interesting. 

Sorry but kal hi pdha tha -  आँख के अंधे, नाम नयनसुख. 

ye kya bakwaas items padhte ho,kaam ki cheeze padho duryodhana warna phir Mahabharata me parajaya hogi😂😂😂

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