@Thoroughly_Screwedsaid inOfficial Thread for Public Administration Optional - Questions & Answers:
Webers model can at best be used for analysing the government of the day. Comment
Okay I will only post questions and answers, but am here to make this thread active. This is the only place I can find some knowledgeable lot. So will try for a while, if it still doesn't work, will let go of it. First bunch of questions and answers by tonight.
I can post the concrete plan by tomorrow evening then, it Think 4 chapters is doable in about a week .
Introduction
Classical thinkers
Behavioral ( Excluding Simon)
Adm Behaviour
Organisations
Not to include Dror, Waldo, Drucker and Marx for now.
Please do let me know how many days it will take to do this and if its fine.
@Bhagat-singhI am finw ith but its a bit off, bec Critical Choice, Blacksburg and Waldo should be done much later. Just an observation.
presuming evaryone has done the syllabus already this should do.
@Bhagat-singhI have no issues bro, I am okay any which way, just that
all classical thinkers at one go could be a good choice. I would go a bit ahead and say, do all management related stuff in one go and then Bureaucracy related stuff. this is my approach.
irrespective of it i would be happy to write whatever is posted. lets just stick to one TT, and write accordingly whichever is acceptable to most.
this finalisation should be done today but. Thanks!
At work and wrote as much.. Been out of touch for 2 years or more... Wrote bec it had to start somewhere. Will contribute regularly, whenever and as much as I can.
Intro
Wilson's statemets pub ad as specific execution of general law and distribution of authority.
Dichotomy led to separation of politics and ADM.
This was invalid due to emergence of various aspects such as NPA Policy Studies, Delegated Legislation and Adm Law. NPS, BB Manifesto etc.
Hence it can be said that theory of pub ad is theory of politics also.
Indian administration - Evident in Minister and Secretary relationship, secretary involved in as much political aspect as a minister involved in ADM.
@Thoroughly_Screwedsaid inOfficial Thread for Public Administration Optional - Questions & Answers:
At work and wrote as much.. Been out of touch for 2 years or more... Wrote bec it had to start somewhere. Will contribute regularly, whenever and as much as I can.
Intro
Wilson's statemets pub ad as specific execution of general law and distribution of authority.
Dichotomy led to separation of politics and ADM.
This was invalid due to emergence of various aspects such as NPA Policy Studies, Delegated Legislation and Adm Law. NPS, BB Manifesto etc.
Hence it can be said that theory of pub ad is theory of politics also.
Indian administration - Evident in Minister and Secretary relationship, secretary involved in as much political aspect as a minister involved in ADM.
Does this make any sense? Or no and pls do let me know how to add can scanner scans here. Can put up the whole answer
The study of public administration began its search towards a science of administration. This was evident with the studies of Wilson and other classical theorists. The emphasis was on Structures, Functions, Processes which could be universal in nature.
Later developments such as Decision Making Science of Simon, Policy Sciences and early Development Theorists have also emphasised on the science of administration and adopted similar models across the globe.
This however has been considered ineffective and thrust was on administration as an art as proposed by Critical Theory, Phenomenology, Developmental theory critics who emphasised on management as an art with emphasis the ecology and environment of the administration.
A common ground has to attained based on universal principles being applied to specific situations through CPA, Policy sciences.
Art and science should not be delineated, science should be developed from the art and vice versa.
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@GeorgeReddyadi can scanner theesukovatledu.. Only camera and docs nundi theesukuntundi
@iceblock93nice I should have mentioned NWS and NPG somewhere
@Thoroughly_Screwedsaid inOfficial Thread for Public Administration Optional - Questions & Answers:
The study of public administration began its search towards a science of administration. This was evident with the studies of Wilson and other classical theorists. The emphasis was on Structures, Functions, Processes which could be universal in nature.
Later developments such as Decision Making Science of Simon, Policy Sciences and early Development Theorists have also emphasised on the science of administration and adopted similar models across the globe.
This however has been considered ineffective and thrust was on administration as an art as proposed by Critical Theory, Phenomenology, Developmental theory critics who emphasised on management as an art with emphasis the ecology and environment of the administration.
A common ground has to attained based on universal principles being applied to specific situations through CPA, Policy sciences.
Art and science should not be delineated, science should be developed from the art and vice versa.
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Diff approach could have been briefly explain science of ADM principles and shortcomings all in points. And then those theories or paradigms which supported it. Same for art and then finally say both need to come together as in the case of CPA and DA which learner from each other etc. The content would more or less remain the same. Which one do u guys think would be better?
@Bhagat-singh5th was 2017? Don't remember at all.. Skipping 3 and 4th since I wrote those back then.
Study of Administration as a separate discipline started with Wilson's The Study of Administration, it has been continuously evolving with changes in the profession or application.
This can be observed in the following developments
Industrial Revolution : Scientific Management
Hawthorne Experiments : Behavioralism and Human Relations Approach.
3rd World Reconstruction Programmes : CPA
LPG : Governance
(not sure of the 1st and 4th)
However profession \ application is equally dependent on the theory or study of administration. Theory has often led to development of practice.
Weber : Implementation of the bureaucratic structures
NPM : 4Ds of public administration
CPA : Led to Development Administration
Governance theory has led to the evolution of Networked administration
NPS, NPG have put the state at the centre yet again.
Theory and practice have a chicken and egg relation which are interdependent and learn from each other to ensure continuous development and evolution of the discipline
Yo!!@Bhagat-singhno questions? Was travelling, couldn't get back. Sorry.. Also do post questions from some test series if u have access. Thanks bro!
@Bhagat-singhwill read up and reply bro! Need to brush up a bit! Held up! Will do by saturday
@IWRAThank You
Looks like we struck a stumbling block already. All of you all writing somewhere else or not been able to spend time on studying and writing? I think this platform is going to be tough. Shall we move to Telegram.. That is much more convenient since e don't have to log in somewhere separately. Can someone make a group?
@Thoroughly_Screwed@LalSalaam@LalSalaam@GeorgeReddy@iceblock93@Hakunah_Matataevery other person who is active here and wants to write. Rankers with due permission can also be added if they can find some time to look up answers. Please see if this is possible. Think you.
