@Celeborn thanks to show your integrity in the last sentence.I have invested a huge amount of time, money, emotions, physical and mental effort to this process. Detachment, alienation, sacrifice, or whatever "ahuti" this exam demands, I have submitted to it. People around me, including the mentors and forum faculties tell me, I have a huge potential to clear mains if I write. Topping in MGP test series, class tests, and what not.But for past 4 years, I have been returning back from the front door only. Not able to pass the prelims barrier.Once I was told to dominate the prelims exam. I did today. I did everything. But I am still at the door. Will be waiting for another 40 days to see if it opens or not. But this feeling. This moment of sadnes. Even after 4 years of practice, I have not been used to it. It still aches the same as it did the first time.There are so many things I have learnt in this journey, whether about studies or life, I am a evolved person today. And I know I will be a successful person in life (as per my definition of success). But this moment right now, this still ache. Very bad!May you all have a good sleep (the only good thing this exhausting day can give us). And try to be kind to yourself.
Heart wrenching comment.in my case,.i already had mental problems from childhood and it got further worse in last few years due to my failures.i wish I could come out of it and again get the ability to feel pleasure in simple things.
@HeNeArKr csat asaan laga kya aapko, or you have very strong apti, I mean people are struggling for qualifying marks and you are getting double the qualifying marks.. 😄😀
Bro.. Csat was tough its just that I have cleared Cat before so I was having an advantage. Even then my strategy was not to touch the RC questions. Araam se 50-60 quant or reasoning kro hojayga clear. Rcs to were even a notch higher than CAT(mtlb saare hi inference based). I don't know how would one from a non maths background could get 66 + marks with a month of prep. Kyuki RC to UPSC ke alava shayad hi koi use shi answer kr paaye :p
I m so weak in maths but even I answered 30 qstns excluding rc.csat was time consuming but it's not as tough as it is made to be.i just wonder how anyone who is talented enough to pass gs1 could fail in gs2
@Howz_the_josh I was getting 125+ in 2020 now am scoring between 90-100 , Definitely paper was unconventional, unexpected , I must say that cut off will be low...
I hope so ,though I m in the same range ,I am feared abt my marks accrdng to official upsc key.certainly it would vary a lot .
@kartikeybhatt171778 yeah insights comment section have many people over 100.. idk lets see shankar ias cutoff. they will publish on 14th.
Insights is a joke.
Btw, do you guys have any idea on how many questions were removed from consideration in last year's paper? People are saying the low cutoff is due to that.
That's just wishful thinking due to the pain of failure.coaching keys are bs and wrong in almost 7 qstns last year.that could be the only explanation.Its better to accept the truth than indulging in conspiracy theories
Am I imagining things, or is it that a lot of people are scoring more than 100?
This year those who claimed more then 100 are very less and last 3 years many claimed more then 110 ,still cutoff was low everytime.you can't predict anything now except that cutoff won't rise beyond 90 in anycase ,it could go further lower.only issue is cutoff would be accrding to upsc key.it is coaching morons who create false expectations and capitalise on that.
I guess it's like all the online mocks. When no one's watching, many people tend to get exceptionally high scores, which they otherwise would not
They somehow want to delude themselves by putting their marks in the safe range based on previous year cutoff and insights bunch r the worst lol.i m one victim in the past.
.i suffer from adhd ( a mental and reading disorder),it got misdiagnosed as bipolar for almost 8 years and my symptoms got further worse due to wrong meds attempted upsc from 2015 to 2017 but failed as I was naive and ignorant preparing from home ,believing in bullshit online advice and lack of consistency due to my mental health issues.got burnt out and buried my hopes recognising my limitations.found out it was adult adhd this year and from there(Feb)I started preparing again with pyqs,cmpltly ignoring readymade materials and mock tests as tabs helped me to get the motivation to read .ran out of it in the last month and stopped reading for the 20 days .got shocked by the new pattern,messed it up due to lack of revision.,getting 88 (obc)in worst case scenario as I forgot whether I marked few qstns (around 6 ) .thinking of first landing a job through state psc or moving out to England for study through my brother who would be moving there next year.just wanted to blurt it out due to anxiety and cause I have never seen people like me in the forum.in the exam hall no one is willing to talk even in the break.one who did talk told paper is too balanced and I m the one under delusion,lol.sorry ,if anyone feels mogged by negativity.
Here we are doing PhD on questions and this is what our future bosses think about us. UPSC bhi sayad aise hi sochta hai isliye quality of paper is declining over the years. Paradoxically every other day we get to hear one or other Babu being hired at top position by Pvt sector like phonepe or even Facebook india.
Do give your views on lateral entry - 9 to 31 to what next ?? Has babudom become the deep state ?
Indeed babudom was and is the deep state. It was always. Point is
1. We have closed bureaucracy system.
2. We have committed bureaucracy.
3. We have issues in politico-bureacratic relationship. Either it is as bad as khemka or become nexus.. Of course some are good but they cant fight collusion.
4. IAS association is itself a new elite club which protects the interest of IAS as a service along with its members. IAS association has brought but not pushed and advocated any honest reforms to cut the red tape, Make burecrats not to act Like god(kabhi kabhi lagta hai apan hi khuda h).
5. The DM as an institution dont want to delegate powers to democratic institution like Muni and PRI. (Though state have to do this by law but you know nexus). Imagine if Institution of DM is accountable to mayor for not doing any gud work ... in turn DM as institution will be accountable to immediate public .
This institution has upwards accountability to boss both burecratic and political.. but No instrument of acc in hand of public to held a rogue bureaucrat accountable. Lokpal was a paper tiger 🤣
6. Closed nature of bureaucracy in India - Once you get in you are all govt have. Even if u never update your skill even you are non efficient... You are never go to be fired in average case.
The bureaucracy should be open at senior level. It should not be captive of Babus hired by UPSC. UPSC should start opening more and more admin position in SCS(senior civil service) to be hired from Pvt sector or anywhere. We need talent,expertise and proficiency in admin in 21st century ... and of course ....The regular bureaucracy hired by UPSC ... is the average talented lot in long run(read about Peters plateau) in a big organization like Government.
getting 90.66, last year got 91.13 (official score)
considering
sutlej (d) wrong,
reservation to women( marked d) wrong,
state (b) wrong,
rbi act 1935 (d) wrong
un habitat (a) wrong
Who told you that you are getting 90.66 ? Believe in self than these bloody coaching keys
I believe cutoff would be around 85 but from upsc keys.i think around 6 qstns would vary.high cutoff prediction is made due to the euphoria one gets from coaching keys.
.i suffer from adhd ( a mental and reading disorder),it got misdiagnosed as bipolar for almost 8 years and my symptoms got worse.i attempted upsc from 2015 to 2017 but I was naive and ignorant preparing from home and also due to my mental health issues.got burnt out and buried my hopes recognising my limitations.found out it was adult adhd this year and from there(Feb)I started preparing again as tabs helped me to get the motivation to read .ran out of it in the last month and cmpltly stopped reading for 20 days .getting 88 (obc)in worst case scenario.i forgot whether I marked few qstns (around 6 ) as I was in a hurry in the last few minutes.thinking of first landing a job through state psc or moving out to England for study through my brother who moves there. soon just wanted to blurt it out due to anxiety and cause I have never seen people like me in the forum.in the exam hall no one is willing to talk even in the break.i always get surprised by that arrogant attitude.one who did talk told paper is too balanced and I m the one under delusion,lol.how I wish i never had to deal with mental health issues or atleast got diagnosed right at the beginning itself.sorry ,if anyone feels mogged by negativity.
The currency used by all coaching hubs to buy out any legitimate apprehension in the minds of young students regarding the unfairness of the process: motivation. They motivate you to aspire for exclusivity, make you believe that the achievement is associated with your self-worth, assume that the world is a level playing field, and meritocracy is the fair counterpart of an otherwise unfair system.
The show encourages the audacity to dream, as if the reason people don’t get into UPSC is not itslimited intakebut because they don’t “believe in themselves.”
Just a thought on meritocracy after seeing 2021 Pre exam.
True.Its a trap to ensnare naive people.
Post 2021 prelims different scenario from past years:
1. Aspirants not interested to disclose their marks.
2. Not interested to join any test series until results are declared.
3. Not interested to check different keys.
4. Not interested to discuss what is right or wrong.
5. Inflating marks by considering at least 60-70% disputed questions as right.
6. Institutes not interested to launch any test series until results.
7. Not enthusiastic to write answers until we clear prelims.
A different scenario and environment this year 😐
true .I am just confused, why then everyone feels cutoff wont plunge lower than 90.I feel it would be 85 (upsc key)as almost 6 to 7 qstns would differ from bs keys.
@bhuvanamalar1015412 Last year I got 130 around and this year hanging around 85-95 😔
its quite unbelievable.is it cause of factual paper?How many marks ur friends get compared to last year?.I am attempting again after 3 years gap ,had deluded myself thinking paper would be conceptual like last year,based my prep cmplty on pyqs,got doomed by lack of revision.i m almost in the same range as u.anxious as hell .
@bhuvanamalar1015412 Last year I got 130 around and this year hanging around 85-95 😔
you would surely get through if u get 85 with upsc keys,atleast thats what i believe as though i have not attempted last few years , i did went through them multiple times, i felt this year paper was much tough than last 3 years.There is nil scope for guess work.Its designed meticulously to curb it.both amazed and cried at the traps they set.
@bhuvanamalar1015412 all my friends who prepared for ifos last year hangs in 90s. Actually last 3,4 years upsc papers can be answered with basic knowledge, elimination techniques and options were easy to eliminate. This year was quite opposite 😕
i felt the same.got mad after exam and cried in chennai busstop for whole night without travelling back home,cursing my choices, deluded thoughts and inability to perform well in the exam lol.Hope things turn out well for us,atleast for u .
@assistant Oct last week.
Even failure is much better than fear of unknown.
As regarding the question about " State", i still have doubt whether all states need to be Sovereign?As there are some Non sovereign states also if we search.
you r spot on,I strongly believe its b but none would accept it as coaching keys claim its a..Just wait for the result.it does not matter after that.
@bhuvanamalar1015412 http://www.ppup.ac.in/download/econtent/pdf/State.pdf
Option A verbatim lifted from here. Don't see any reason for it to be wrong.
you cant be sure about it cause of similar wording.state could be non sovereign too and thats why i think a is wrong.,I could be wrong too.I just believe it is b
Pol science me theory of state me pdate hai State = Soveregnty+people+territory+Govt. Option A satisfies this criteria.I marked B despite knowing this fml@bhuvanamalar1015412 http://www.ppup.ac.in/download/econtent/pdf/State.pdf
Option A verbatim lifted from here. Don't see any reason for it to be wrong.
you cant be sure about it cause of similar wording.state could be non sovereign too and thats why i think a is wrong.,I could be wrong too.I just believe it is b
Ya its according to that link but just a Google search will reveal sovereignty is not must to be considered as a state .it could be A only if upsc paper setter took it from the same source or any other which considers sovereignty as integral part of a state.
@Capedcrusader1 All institutions keys will vary at least 7-8 questions from upsc key. Remember this and check when upsc release the key in may 2022.
You filled only ifos this year?
@bhuvanamalar1015412 Let me give one simple example this year. The nawab arcot was formed in 1692 and nizam kingdom was formed in 1724. And every institution gave that nawab of arcot was formed from Nizam kingdom 🤦🏻♂️
lol.Have not attempted most of the contentious ones.i have my doubts only over state and fdi.
@GOT8 😂😂. They are in hurry to prepare the key. Many such questions are there. Hopefully luck will favour to those who worked hard and are deserved to clear at least pre
true.
@morty In 2020 prelims , I got 104 according to vision ,but according to upsc it’s 94 ….2 questions got deleted but marks were normalized
Who said 2 qstns got deleted?it's just that coaching keys were wrong
@morty yes that's true but this year don't think it will cross 95. Not many students are crossing 100 this time
It won't cross 85(upsc key)
@bhuvanamalar1015412 it’s pretty obvious according to the marks I got …one question is CDM which got deleted and the other I don’t know
Why can't it be that coaching keys were wrong in some qstn.there is no chance for upsc to discount 2 qstns cause none of the qstns were wrong in 2020.
I've heard last year too people were talking about how tough the prelims paper 1 was, and speculated cutoff to be 90 plus minus 2. But in the end, it was on a higher side (if we consider 1-2 qns were removed). So how true are these discussions and predictions by the institutes.
Also, are people really seeing a drop of 15-20 marks as compared to their last year's marks?
I am so confused what to believe and what not to. Are there people who are scoring really good marks and keeping silence? (I hope this isn't true
)
Obviously things will be a bit clear once the result is out. But can someone with a little experience give his/her views on this?
For your second point, i suppose both are True! Some ppl are scoring 15 to 20 marks lesser (as per this thread) and some are easily scoring 100+ (as per poll)
100 according to coaching keys.last year everyone was scoring beyond 100 but cutoff was 92.only those who get above 85 are participating in polls.its unreliable
@morty last year except 1-2people all were expecting cutoff to be between 95-99.... This year most are saying it to be 88-92
They would claim cutoff based on previous year.no one could predict it accurately.as last year cutoff was 92 everyone predicts in that range this year .
Last year score of maximum people got reduced like those who were scoring 110 got 95. If that's the case then is it possible that only those who are scoring above 100 will qualify this year since score will decrease like last year?
it depends on the qstns they attempted.some who gets low like 80 with coaching keys could get high in reality,some who get 98 could fail.
PS- I don’t think cut off is going to cross 88, that’s the maximum in my opinion. Have given attempts since 2015, cleared all Pre and gave 2 interviews. This was the toughest prelims in my opinion. Highest I have scored was 151 and lowest was 116 till now. Sharing to back up my analysis. All the best guys.
damn thats some humongous range.
@Nanananananana Your last year score? How how much it varied from the answer keys of coaching?
as he mentioned his lowest score until now is 116.certainly he should have got in the range of 120.
@bhuvanamalar1015412 many state commissions are moving towards conceptuality that's good thing
in tamilnadu psc most of the paper would be eulogising ancient tamil people and tamil language.thats the only reason i hate reading for tnpsc.it almost gets boring and irritating beyond a point.other than that this year tnpsc qstns were good but i dont know how it would be in future.whatever i have decided to give a serious try if i fail upsc pre this year as idiotic qstns like nuniz opinion on whether women knew wrestling,astrology,sooth saying broke my belief.i dont have the ability to memorize like that.
a bit late to the discussion but i am curious if people even actually felt the paper was tougher than last year, as the cut-offs of most institutes is 90-95 i.e similar to last year. ALso all the answer key discussions on youtube have the teachers itself getting confused/having alternating opinions but at the same time mentioning that the cut-off could be marginally higher than last year. What am i missing, there seems to be some disconnect.
They can't believe cutoff could be lower than 89 despite indications to the contrary as it looks too low.i believe it will be low as even with bs coaching keys most r getting low marks,even ifos aspirants
@oopsie as much as i do not wish to comment on the merit of the examination process, i definitely feel the exam setters have botched up a bit given so many interpretations/opinions to so many questions prevailing even a week after the examination.I understand UPSC is supreme, but how could they legitimately claim that granite & schist do not form black soil when evidence to the contrary seems to clearly exist.
Also since the question was asked about the weathering of which rock would lead to formation of black soil of India so I mean why cant be the granite and schist erosion can be attributed for the formation of black soil.
fissured volcanic rock is the best option out of all.for curiosity u could search about it but there is no chance it would change in upsc key.
@leftfaithinmyself rbi grade b is also better than services like afhq,iofs, etc
i feel rbi grade b is much harder especially maths and comprehension.i felt even csat comprehension easier compared to rbi ,some say they were on cat level but pyqs of rbi looks damn hard.i have not attempted but planning too .
@oopsie as much as i do not wish to comment on the merit of the examination process, i definitely feel the exam setters have botched up a bit given so many interpretations/opinions to so many questions prevailing even a week after the examination.I understand UPSC is supreme, but how could they legitimately claim that granite & schist do not form black soil when evidence to the contrary seems to clearly exist.
Also since the question was asked about the weathering of which rock would lead to formation of black soil of India so I mean why cant be the granite and schist erosion can be attributed for the formation of black soil.
fissured volcanic rock is the best option out of all.for curiosity u could search about it but there is no chance it would change in upsc key.
this is like barasingha from last year. though it is found in Assam too, the most appropriate answer is Kanha
true but they did asked which is the most famous.in most of the qstns options were close every year.this year its on another level.
@toooldtodieyoung UPSC taking unpredictability to the next level
N I love it
really??
@oopsie as much as i do not wish to comment on the merit of the examination process, i definitely feel the exam setters have botched up a bit given so many interpretations/opinions to so many questions prevailing even a week after the examination.I understand UPSC is supreme, but how could they legitimately claim that granite & schist do not form black soil when evidence to the contrary seems to clearly exist.
Also since the question was asked about the weathering of which rock would lead to formation of black soil of India so I mean why cant be the granite and schist erosion can be attributed for the formation of black soil.
fissured volcanic rock is the best option out of all.for curiosity u could search about it but there is no chance it would change in upsc key.
I forgot about it but i think all those above rocks r formed from metamorphosis of volcanic rocks.is not it?
@oopsie as much as i do not wish to comment on the merit of the examination process, i definitely feel the exam setters have botched up a bit given so many interpretations/opinions to so many questions prevailing even a week after the examination.I understand UPSC is supreme, but how could they legitimately claim that granite & schist do not form black soil when evidence to the contrary seems to clearly exist.
Also since the question was asked about the weathering of which rock would lead to formation of black soil of India so I mean why cant be the granite and schist erosion can be attributed for the formation of black soil.
fissured volcanic rock is the best option out of all.for curiosity u could search about it but there is no chance it would change in upsc key.
I forgot about it but i think all those above rocks r formed from metamorphosis of volcanic rocks.is not it?
Afaik, Basalt is a volcanic rock, Granite is a plutonic rock...both are igneous rocks, Basalt being extrusive, Granite intrusive.....Granite converts into Gneiss and combines with Schist...leading to black soil in Tamil Nadu....the deccan traps Black soil is mostly Basalt, indeed a volcanic rock....but the fissure word is what held me back!
in most of the qstns i felt the same issue.almost in every qstn one could eliminate 2 options but paper was designed to make u choose the wrong one among those two.it was a nightmare.i dont even want to think about that dark day lol.morons should stop making guess master,short trick videos fooling gullible aspirants.
@oopsie as much as i do not wish to comment on the merit of the examination process, i definitely feel the exam setters have botched up a bit given so many interpretations/opinions to so many questions prevailing even a week after the examination.I understand UPSC is supreme, but how could they legitimately claim that granite & schist do not form black soil when evidence to the contrary seems to clearly exist.
Also since the question was asked about the weathering of which rock would lead to formation of black soil of India so I mean why cant be the granite and schist erosion can be attributed for the formation of black soil.
fissured volcanic rock is the best option out of all.for curiosity u could search about it but there is no chance it would change in upsc key.
I forgot about it but i think all those above rocks r formed from metamorphosis of volcanic rocks.is not it?
Afaik, Basalt is a volcanic rock, Granite is a plutonic rock...both are igneous rocks, Basalt being extrusive, Granite intrusive.....Granite converts into Gneiss and combines with Schist...leading to black soil in Tamil Nadu....the deccan traps Black soil is mostly Basalt, indeed a volcanic rock....but the fissure word is what held me back!
in most of the qstns i felt the same issue.almost in every qstn one could eliminate 2 options but paper was designed to make u choose the wrong one among those two.it was a nightmare.i dont even want to think about that dark day lol.morons should stop making guess master,short trick videos fooling gullible aspirants.
happens all the time for me 1942 (I marked Cripps instead of Quit India), religious lyrics(i marked BGT, one would assume MKG to be secular), Bethune "Female" school, Tughluq, Phosphorus/Sulphur, water (i marked oxide of H2 but dipolar)....avoidable mistakes?! could decide our chances! but let's hope future papers will be clear!
yes but we cant avoid them cmptly,could minimise it though . only option left for us is to be crystal clear with facts and concepts and be calm and carefree in exam hall to get rid of fear and avoid overthinking.i had this idea to travel to coorg or ooty before pre for relaxation.i shld have done it.it would only become tougher as time goes on.certainly this year paper was set to eliminate guessing,probably with a psychologist guidance.lots of thinking has gone into designing options.
@bhuvanamalar1015412 made 4 silly mistakes like saline lakes, ascending order of paragna suba sarkar etc etc. coupd have been avoided and i would have been easily sailed through. but this is the part of the process
Yes ,u r right but that haunts me still.thats why I blabber here and also cause I want this thread to be alive.i often reminisce about how I could have avoided those wrong choices.then I curse myself abt lack of revision,thinking those who pass r ones who prepared enough to make it even with those silly mistakes.
Yes ,u r right but that haunts me still.thats why I blabber here and also cause I want this thread to be alive.i often reminisce about how I could have avoided those wrong choices.then I curse myself abt lack of revision,thinking those who pass r ones who prepared enough to make it even with those silly mistakes.
reminisce in a way still trying to be happy:- I was at A2B for lunch after gs1, was washing my hands and Gowalia Tank came to my mind (1942 is wrong!) and the table had a bit of spill of fruit juice...guess what Triclosan is wrong for fruit preservative....and on....hits and misses, revisions makes me sick, so I never do:- but i too feel bad for a haughty approach! but honestly we could seldom pinpoint an approach that will takes us through, earlier used to be the case for mains and interview, now it is creeping into prelims, i feel....
Yes bro.triclosan is a preservative but material preservative (knew only after),so I too made the same mistake but as u say there is no point in fretting about.shld read for mains with belief.i like to read cmnts,but this year traffic was low ,that too only few r responsible for most of the cmnts.that makes me believe cutoff would be much lower .let's see.
This year, the 40k - 50k students, who we all refer to as serious candidates, are all getting marks in the range of 80-100. And no one knows for sure, whether it's 80 or 100. But, only 4k will go through (UR). Mains jitna subjective ban gaya hai Prelims..
Not even 300 people cmntd their marks here.no way 40k to 50k would get beyond 80.not even 6000 general students will get that even by bs coaching keys.
iss definition se toh A hi aa rha hai answer...anyways B mai natural rights bol rha hai, totalitarian states have no natural rights they remain a state nevertheless
basically, the idea of state/nation-state is centered around sovereignty.
There is a lesson abt state in nios.in that multiple definitions of scholars about state were given.option b in that qstn just combines all those definitions more or less.At first I felt b is the exact ans(cause I marked it)but now feel it could be A too in terms of upsc ans key as A speaks about sovereignty directly .Most prbbly it shld be A.
@Admgenalanezh maintain law and order, protect their natural rights and safeguard their means of sustenance === also indicates --- independent of external control orsovereigntyI think so... option A&B both probable
It's hard to predict the answer in this.It could be either A or B.
@Admgenalanezh maintain law and order, protect their natural rights and safeguard their means of sustenance === also indicates --- independent of external control orsovereigntyI think so... option A&B both probable
It depends on the qstn setter.B is more comprehensive ,mix of many definitions given by scholars but A is a definition of state by a single scholar .
State wala question me option A and B are verbatim of political theorists.
A is of Garner and B of Bluntschli
Ab i will tell u the problem
In Option A upsc has removed the line where garner says that there has to be ‘ Habitual obedience’ from citizens
in Option B upsc has added on its own ‘ natural rights ‘ and ‘ means of sustenance’
ab dekhlo kaunsa answer hoga
No.option a is given by garner but in option b first part is by blutschli and law and order,natural rights,means of sustenance were definitions of state given by other scholars.its in a nios lesson.
State wala question me option A and B are verbatim of political theorists.
A is of Garner and B of Bluntschli
Ab i will tell u the problem
In Option A upsc has removed the line where garner says that there has to be ‘ Habitual obedience’ from citizens
in Option B upsc has added on its own ‘ natural rights ‘ and ‘ means of sustenance’
ab dekhlo kaunsa answer hoga
No.option a is given by garner but in option b first part is by blutschli and law and order,natural rights,means of sustenance were definitions of state given by other scholars.its in a nios lesson.
send the screenshots of this nios doc u are referring to
u could just google it.i dont know how to take a screen shot in laptop.lesson name is itself state i think.Nios politican science senior secondary.
@bhuvanamalar1015412 yup EPFO: A , smelting: D what about synthetic question?
virus cant be cultured in synthetic medium..virus could be cultured artificially but not in a synthetic medium ,one needs a living cell for it to be cultured.
With each passing day ,number of questions with disputable answers are increasing
what do u expect when 6 qstns differ every year compared to coaching bs.6 qstn is a huge difference ,difference between civil service and ifos cutoff.few were due to aspirants trying to make their ans right but most of the disputed qstns r due to coaching idiots makiing wrong keys.this year too it will happen but ironically the answers that differ were one least expects to be a disputed one.
@bhuvanamalar1015412 exactly! but then this is the beauty of this exam that it dands intellect and knowledge and most importantly patience to avoid silly mistakes and no deep research.
yes,i just hate coaching centres scamming people and selling snake oil such as mock test,ca material,what not. and so i rant at them,at first,i loathed upsc for asking stupid sports and history qstns but now i feel its good in a way to curb coaching institutes.sports 365 would come next year and everyone would memorise it but unfrtntly olympics would happen only 5 years once and no qstns would be asked lol.
One moron in insights claims he gets 120 marks despite knowing only 35 qstn cause he mastered the art of elimination by giving 100 mocks.thats bullshit especially in this qstn paper.ironically now people will enroll for more mock tests and coaching programs .As long as gullible people fall prey to coaching institutes,these scams would continue
@bhuvanamalar1015412 used same reasoning and marked 3 only.counting it as wrong (but have a feeling that it might turn out to be right)
Same.i don't understand why it is wrong. Mitakshara does deal with joint hindu family property but only males were coparceners and hold that property.2nd statement is right too generally but in dhayabhaga if a father strays away from dharma or becomes a sanyasin,sons could claim right to property in his lifetime .
@bhuvanamalar1015412 used same reasoning and marked 3 only.counting it as wrong (but have a feeling that it might turn out to be right)
https://legodesk.com/legopedia/intestate-succession-and-inheritance-under-hindu-law/ there were two types of succession under mitakshara.only in joint property sons get birth right but in a property acquired by father they don't get birth right .I feel now 2 is certainly wrong .
@bhuvanamalar1015412 used same reasoning and marked 3 only.counting it as wrong (but have a feeling that it might turn out to be right)https://legodesk.com/legopedia/intestate-succession-and-inheritance-under-hindu-law/ there were two types of succession under mitakshara.only in joint property sons get birth right but in a property acquired by father they don't get birth right .I feel now 2 is certainly wrong .
so acc to you, answer is 1 and 3 or 3 only?
3 .
@BhallaRobert 89-91
I feel the same. 89+-1
85 to 88
@BhallaRobert i think anybody scoring 90+ with this key will sail through. 2-3 questikn will be right or wrong in upsc answer key from this one but scores will remain more or less same
Many who got 106 barely sailed through prelims last year.
@BhallaRobert i think anybody scoring 90+ with this key will sail through. 2-3 questikn will be right or wrong in upsc answer key from this one but scores will remain more or less same
It depends on their attempts in qstns where ans key differs.
@bhuvanamalar1015412 In 2018, in this same forum blog, we were all discussing about the toughness and different pattern in the paper compared to previous years. Many were expecting the cutoff to be 90 and not more than that. But in the end the cutoff was 98. Whatever the toughness or difficultly, somehow people will get 90+ through luck or hardwork. Don’t expect cutoff to get below 90 in this competition era and decreasing amount of vacancies. If one is sure of getting less than 85, he/she should relinquish the hopes of clearing pre
I m obc candidate and that's why I have slight hopes yet.i do predicted it to be 85 to 88 for gen not below.crushed hopes is not due to cutoff but due to wrong ans key
how is that ? Statement 3 talks aboutproperties held by men and women, it’s not about having share in the property.Let me know if I’m missing any point in that.
Share in the property automatically implies properties held by man and women as women can't be coparceners in mitakshara law.
@bhuvanamalar1015412 In 2018, in this same forum blog, we were all discussing about the toughness and different pattern in the paper compared to previous years. Many were expecting the cutoff to be 90 and not more than that. But in the end the cutoff was 98. Whatever the toughness or difficultly, somehow people will get 90+ through luck or hardwork. Don’t expect cutoff to get below 90 in this competition era and decreasing amount of vacancies. If one is sure of getting less than 85, he/she should relinquish the hopes of clearing pre
In the same forum, people were discussing cutoff to be more than 100 last year and it went down to 92. The thing is everyone is inflating score by taking that key which is giving them maximum marks and then counting those positive which they find it here and there. Remove these 9-10 answers and surely most will come down to below 90. So everyone who is getting 80-100 is safe and unsafe at the same time and should continue studies. 5 questions in your favor and your score will go up by 13 marks from 82 to 95.
True.
@balwintejas that’s the case of different. But according to upsc key cutoff will not be less than 90
You really think toughness level of this paper was comparable to last year?some would have thrived in factual paper based on rote learning but most of those types would fail in csat.it could go as low as 85 and not above 87 .66 in my opinion.most of the marks we see here are inflated ones too,that also shld be taken into account.
@bhuvanamalar1015412 Answer keys of all institutes will vary according to upsc key. But we willknow them only next year which no one will cares then
Yes I just say one can't predict his marks for sure now due to that.
@bhuvanamalar1015412 To a large extent, it depends on how you are calculating your scores. If you are getting 106 after considering all controversial questions going your way, you are bound to be disappointed. I was scoring 102 after counting 4-5 controversial questions as negative and ended up clearing IFoS cutoff.
I have not attempted but saw those cmnts and got confused.
@kohliwagBrother... can we add 1. copper smelting as (d) and 2. magnetite as (d) in score as per UPSC PYQ trend and answer key? -- or still these are in doubtful stage
They were not doubtful.Co is lethal even at low quantities infact in any mining operation the chance is there,and qstn uses the word may too
You can in the last para of mitakshra. They can be coparceners after 2005 amendment.
And also statement 3 is about properties held by man or a woman and how is it talking about inheritance rights of women ?
Qstn asked with reference to ancient Hindu law ,so amendment does not matter .
@bhuvanamalar1015412 In 2018, in this same forum blog, we were all discussing about the toughness and different pattern in the paper compared to previous years. Many were expecting the cutoff to be 90 and not more than that. But in the end the cutoff was 98. Whatever the toughness or difficultly, somehow people will get 90+ through luck or hardwork. Don’t expect cutoff to get below 90 in this competition era and decreasing amount of vacancies. If one is sure of getting less than 85, he/she should relinquish the hopes of clearing pre
Cutoff will be between 90-94.
Afterall they need only 3600 ppl who's answers match with their key. Almost everyone is around 85.
It's not that everyone is around 85 rather only those who r above 85(general) are cmntng here due to anxiety of unknown.one who gets above 100 won't discuss here,same with those who gets below 80.
@bhuvanamalar1015412 In 2018, in this same forum blog, we were all discussing about the toughness and different pattern in the paper compared to previous years. Many were expecting the cutoff to be 90 and not more than that. But in the end the cutoff was 98. Whatever the toughness or difficultly, somehow people will get 90+ through luck or hardwork. Don’t expect cutoff to get below 90 in this competition era and decreasing amount of vacancies. If one is sure of getting less than 85, he/she should relinquish the hopes of clearing pre
Cutoff will be between 90-94.
Afterall they need only 3600 ppl who's answers match with their key. Almost everyone is around 85.
It's not that everyone is around 85 rather only those who r above 85(general) are cmntng here due to anxiety of unknown.one who gets above 100 won't discuss here,same with those who gets below 80.
Tumhare discussion dekh ke to 120 vala bhi dar jaye :p
I don't understand Hindi ,so, don't know whether u say even those who score 120 are discussing here or u r trying to mock me taking my cmnt out of context thinking it's so funny,if that's the case I never claimed that my score is high.i just told sample size is skewed to take it as an indicator of high cutoff
I don't understand Hindi ,so, don't know whether u say even those who score 120 are discussing here or u r trying to mock me taking my cmnt out of context thinking it's so funny,if that's the case I never claimed that my score is high.i just told sample size is skewed to take it as an indicator of high cutoff
It's so strange, you don't know Hindi but still generating your own question and clarifying yourself :p
P.S.- I said "going by the discussions here, even the guy scoring 120 will not feel safe."
Sorry, google translated tuhmara as 'your' thats why i was confused.
Regarding the Indus question, I have 2 questions. You can add your suggestions.
Q. "With reference to the Indus river system, of the following four rivers, three of them (1)pour into one of them which joins the Indus direct. Among the following, which one issuch river that joins the (2)Indus direct ?"
It says'pour into', does it say 'meet' ? Pour should means 'drains into'.
Does it say three of them pour one by one ?
What do you mean by"direct". Chenab river firstly meets other rivers. how it can be direct ? Hindi Translation says " Jo sindhu nadi seyseedhi milti hai".
Damn, really u r smart.exact point.
@bhuvanamalar1015412 so u mean answer is A and C respectively for sure ?
Yes there is no reason to doubt them actually.
This year, I have seen so many "Veteran in UPSC'--->Making4-5 silly mistakes each (eg Bethun school, Right to privacy, ascending and descending order etc)
Few scoringabove 95+, they had differentmethods of cooperation...for eg Fearful of passing CSAT.....!!
Very very cooperative people.....loved it.
No doubt, Everyone is playing a significant rolein bring down cut-off to itshistoric lowto-->84.5-86.5 or Even DOWN (NO damn plus minus 2)
Thanks everyone! :) :)
As per the consensus here,cutoff is 90 plus.lol,now I got more anxiety.whatever eager for result regardless of outcome .
Guys I mistakenly bubbled around 10 percent of central part of wrong bubble and then fully filled correct bubble, if someone has gone through such a thing kindly tell me will they check the correct bubble or not. i'm quite anxious as i'm lingering somewhere along the abstract borders of some projected mythical cutoffs :(
No.even a small point would be taken as filling 2 bubbles
Finally tempted to comment, silently reading messages here from 10th oct. As every year, people have created aura of confusion. As every year, every next question has made debatable. Those who were started preparing for mains, reading this thread getting disheartened, and doubting their chance to write mains.
I am getting minimum 87 and maximum 95. This is my fifth attempt and no service till now, however, I am working aspirant.
What will be cut off? Boss it will be as per UPSC key.. not as per forum key or insight key. As per UPSC keys,last year, my friend got 101 and I got 93. Although, insightsias given him 112 and 109 to me... So cut off will be as per UPSC key . No matter u are getting 80s or 100s as per coaching keys..every year I got more marks in prelims that coaching keys, except 2020 Fiasco
Paper is tough this year .. l lag gaye hai
What's ur friend mark now
@bhuvanamalar1015412 32 in 2020..started at 29
Lol what's this 32.i asked his marks,not age.
@bhuvanamalar1015412 32 in 2020..started at 29...2020 was last attempt
Oh sry,understood.
Finally tempted to comment, silently reading messages here from 10th oct. As every year, people have created aura of confusion. As every year, every next question has made debatable. Those who were started preparing for mains, reading this thread getting disheartened, and doubting their chance to write mains.
I am getting minimum 87 and maximum 95. This is my fifth attempt and no service till now, however, I am working aspirant.
What will be cut off? Boss it will be as per UPSC key.. not as per forum key or insight key. As per UPSC keys,last year, my friend got 101 and I got 93. Although, insightsias given him 112 and 109 to me... So cut off will be as per UPSC key . No matter u are getting 80s or 100s as per coaching keys..every year I got more marks in prelims that coaching keys, except 2020 Fiasco
Paper is tough this year .. l lag gaye hai
Almost everyone gets much lower marks compared to previous attempts except few,still people here predicts it to be the same as last year.it could happen only if freshers are getting high marks then experienced candidates or banking guys who attempted upsc r scoring more as they were experts in factual qstns.
Looks like devi lal contesting from 3 constituencies in 1991 is factually incorrect like someone here pointed out
https://www.elections.in/parliamentary-constituencies/1991-election-results.html
https://www.elections.in/parliamentary-constituencies/1989-election-results.html
Yes ,they seem to have framed qstn this based on an Indian express article which got it wrong.it shld be deleted but I don't think they would do it.
hey look, the moron is at it again. don't you have anything better to do
WR-CSP-21-231020-Engl-F.pdfhe shld be banned.such a silly troll.lol i had planned to go on a vacation tmrw and started thinking i shld cancel it lol.
Mosses and lichen
Magnetite 1,2,3,4,5
Pressure cooker 1,2,3
Copper smelting 2,3
Casual workers 2,3
State - B
Federalism - B
Black money - B
Supreme court judge - 2 only
These are my doubtful questions ,,, if any of the two gets right I will be 90+
I rest my case
if this is how everyone gets 80s then i wont be surprised if cutoff goes upto 95 .
Mosses and lichen
Magnetite 1,2,3,4,5
Pressure cooker 1,2,3
Copper smelting 2,3
Casual workers 2,3
State - B
Federalism - B
Black money - B
Supreme court judge - 2 only
These are my doubtful questions ,,, if any of the two gets right I will be 90+
I rest my case
if this is how everyone gets 80s then i wont be surprised if cutoff goes upto 95 .
I m getting 88 considering all of these as wrongs
u would easily reach close to 100 if u added them in negative marks ,atleast 4 r right.
@bhuvanamalar1015412 bro the paper was legit easy. i have been telling this for a while now.
ya,i am preparing my mind for results then.looks everyone attempted close to 100.
Taking a break from mains prep to catch up on the debates.
Cut-off prediction is difficult when your previous anchor point is unreliable, e.g. 2017->2018 (difficulty jump, first time below 100), 2018->2019 (EWS ka introduction), and 2019->2020 (pandemic year, new paper style, difficult CSAT paper, etc). But anyone who's given several of these attempts and has cleared somewhat consistently will have a good estimate of the main parameter that sets the cut-off, which is the difficulty. All the other factors - size of competition, number of seats, etc , exam attendance, are all secondary factors which mostly cancel each other out. There's no way to objectively definitively 100% state that paper was easier or harder, but if you've written multiple attempts and have cleared or gotten close to, you should trust your gut.I can 100% say that to my eye, both papers were harder than last year. I've never had any CSAT issues and even this year will not have any CSAT issues, but even while reading the paper I could tell that it was going to be difficult for people. Usually I attempt >70 questions, but last year could only manage 65 and this year only around 60 questions. CSAT was vague, had confusing conflicting passages, had tricky math questions that could easily eat up your time, etc etc. This is more so than last year. And GS paper was definitely tougher - new topic areas, hard questions ,vague questions, bad translations, etc. This idea that there are enough easy questions to push the cut-off up is laughable - everyone who wrote the paper knows the kind of mental pressure that occurs while writing and how easy it is to slip up on those sitters. I for e.g. skipped the Bethune question because it was right after the Gandhi question and I didn't have the nerve to tick the right answer, even though I'd circled it. The only point at which the paper would seem easier is in the few days afterwards, when you sit with the paper and curse yourself or watch the coaching centres gaslight you into thinking that your brain was wrong. It's a combination of anchoring effect, desire for risk mitigation, insecurity, etc etc.
Anyway, longwinded way of saying that I can definitely believe the assessment that the cut-off would drop by 2.5 questions (i.e. 5 marks) due to the GS paper, and another 1 question (i.e. 2 marks) because of the CSAT. I don't think the impact from reduced seats will be felt - some 500 lost places will hardly account for more than half a mark at the border and will be more than compensated for by the fewer number of people who would have written the exam with a decent level of preparation (I don't know about you guys but I know that the 2nd wave definitely impacted my own preparation).
Am taking Shankar, Hardworking Human, Kaptaan and Vision's rough benchmarks and trusting my own gut and have moved accordingly.
true.excellent analysis.
@Capedcrusader1 High Chances.... I am a good Poker player. Have done a decent survey Rural (Shadipur/patel nagal)+ Urban (ORN/Karol Bagh) AREA + Jamia + Veteran + IITians + last year selected ppl (Who have written exam).
What survey u mention.how is it even possible?
@bhuvanamalar1015412 Why not possible? Social capital accha hain mera..you could say :P
I do wish it to be true.
Persistent anxiety regarding the prelims outcome drove me here again and again.. Guys please help..
This is not for show off... This is all truth from my side...
Scoring around ~ 86 (Gen) after considering all the below disputed Qs (as per my view)as wrong
1. Pressure cooker (I marked 1&3)
2. Hereditary (Marked C)
3. Indus (marked - Satluj)
4. All Casual (Marked 2&3)
5. Magnetite (Marked D)
6. Copper smelting (Marked D)
7. Arcot (Marked 2 only)
8. State (Marked B)
9. British Model (Marked A)
10. As per legislation (Marked Art 32)
11. Federalism (Marked B)
How many can be correct ? Please help (No debate from my side)
Thanks in advance...
3,4,5 .6,2 could be,not sure.
even as per his answer also i am getting 90, i think chahe kuch bhi answer key mein, net result same rehtaa haai@sunnyleony ye admi light wale question me history me ghus gaya. bhaang khake baitha hai
such a notorious username in such a solemn place :(
He is trolling here actually.
that guy is also telling thisso i am getting 88-90 only considering
article 32 (d) wrong
cooker 123 wrong
iyengar d corect
led a wrong
sutlej wrong
montford (d) wrong
mitocondria (c) correct
megnetite (d) correct
co (d) correct
state b wrong
concentration of wealth (new doubtful, by this man) welfare state (wrong)
if i got 3 of these 8 question ( which i have considered wrong) then also i may clear cutoff
mitochondria one is wrong correct is A
which one
any answer corrected as per his key is deem to be incorrect
Worst idiot I have ever seen.thats what wrong with Indian education system.
that guy is also telling thisso i am getting 88-90 only considering
article 32 (d) wrong
cooker 123 wrong
iyengar d corect
led a wrong
sutlej wrong
montford (d) wrong
mitocondria (c) correct
megnetite (d) correct
co (d) correct
state b wrong
concentration of wealth (new doubtful, by this man) welfare state (wrong)
if i got 3 of these 8 question ( which i have considered wrong) then also i may clear cutoff
mitochondria one is wrong correct is A
which one
any answer corrected as per his key is deem to be incorrect
Though guy in this video is a moron,mitochondria could be A only
@bhuvanamalar1015412 oh yea this motivation is a new category of bs.. like they have seen it all. others are just biding their time.
Yes,that's a big scam,a whole breed of motivational speakers have emerged,especially in upsc field and I get irritated when I hear these talks of hardwork,not giving up until u reach ur destiny,making it big in life,ur life is completely in ur hands,u could do anything u want etc lol.a brother of mine gets motivated to get into gym everytime he sees a new movie with fit actors ,want to make it big in life everytime he watches a youtube video.he forgets it later though.
Guys, asking out of anxiety. Till now I had no doubt about copper smelting being D. But few people are doubting it. What does the majority in our group think ?carbon monoxide is used in as reactant hence it doesn't release in lethal quantities hence d is incorrect this is what majority of coaching say but I'm not sure i also marked D :(
Carbon monoxide is lethal even in small quanties.i don't know exactly but there have been accidents involving co in smelting .I left the qstn though .I feel they did it to break guess work where extreme word is wrong.
that guy is also telling thisso i am getting 88-90 only considering
article 32 (d) wrong
cooker 123 wrong
iyengar d corect
led a wrong
sutlej wrong
montford (d) wrong
mitocondria (c) correct
megnetite (d) correct
co (d) correct
state b wrong
concentration of wealth (new doubtful, by this man) welfare state (wrong)
if i got 3 of these 8 question ( which i have considered wrong) then also i may clear cutoff
mitochondria one is wrong correct is A
which one
any answer corrected as per his key is deem to be incorrect
Though guy in this video is a moron,mitochondria could be A only
very funny 😆. Just wasted 3 minutes 😄
I had an inferiority complex abt my academic issues and low IQ.he and those who support him in cmnt section made me feel more confident 😂
New trend -
I marked this A
I marked this B
I marked this C
Which one can be right and which cant be?
(Jse question setter ne forum pr discuss krke paper set kiya ho and so, jo idhr btaynge whi shi hoga)
Add on to this.
I marked this and that in these questions. I have considered all wrong and now my score is xx.xx. what are my chances!!
There are so many variables that it is nearly impossible to predict. Gone are the days when one can claim with surety that I will get through.
That scares me.if it is true everyone gets 90 excluding 8 qstns its quite shocking.
New trend -
I marked this A
I marked this B
I marked this C
Which one can be right and which cant be?
(Jse question setter ne forum pr discuss krke paper set kiya ho and so, jo idhr btaynge whi shi hoga)
Add on to this.
I marked this and that in these questions. I have considered all wrong and now my score is xx.xx. what are my chances!!
There are so many variables that it is nearly impossible to predict. Gone are the days when one can claim with surety that I will get through.
That scares me.if it is true everyone gets 90 excluding 8 qstns its quite shocking.
the only great optimism lies in hoping not much of those 8 questions go correct and a few of ones already considered correct go wrong 😂😂😂
That's what I hope lol but it flies in the face of qstn paper being wrong.only solace is last year too everyone claimed they were unable to get in even after scoring above 105 when cutoff is just 92.so I m inclined to think cutoff won't go above 85 but in terms of upsc keys.
New trend -
I marked this A
I marked this B
I marked this C
Which one can be right and which cant be?
(Jse question setter ne forum pr discuss krke paper set kiya ho and so, jo idhr btaynge whi shi hoga)
Add on to this.
I marked this and that in these questions. I have considered all wrong and now my score is xx.xx. what are my chances!!
There are so many variables that it is nearly impossible to predict. Gone are the days when one can claim with surety that I will get through.
That scares me.if it is true everyone gets 90 excluding 8 qstns its quite shocking.
the only great optimism lies in hoping not much of those 8 questions go correct and a few of ones already considered correct go wrong 😂😂😂
That's what I hope lol but it flies in the face of qstn paper being wrong.only solace is last year too everyone claimed they were unable to get in even after scoring above 105 when cutoff is just 92.so I m inclined to think cutoff won't go above 85 but in terms of upsc keys.
my personal experience suggests the same bro. last year paper was a cake walk, it never bothered me but this year I felt real discomfort. in first cycle i could mark only 36 questions and this was where panic gripped me. I strongly feel cutoff ought to decline and in worst case remain same but in no case I feel it to rise. And also when difficult factual questions find their way to the paper in abundance, one's efficiency and confidence naturally declines and this affects his or her performance even in medium and easy questions.
Options r so close this year.coaching morons r trying to gain advantage by terming economics,polity as easy.,so that they could rake in more money in their upsc 2022 course.cutoff shld not go above 85 but everyone claims a high cutoff due to uncertainty of coaching keys.atleast that's what I tend to think.
@bhuvanamalar1015412 @Strugglehard safeguard of liberty!
Its certainly D though I marked A.commited judiciary seems to be a negative concept and there was also a option centralisation of powers opposite to seperation of powers concept to trick aspirants.
no body can ban me from forum iasI know you are clowning here and I don’t know the reason but I find your behaviour really concerning. Please get help. It’s not normal. Specially on a platform like this. If people do this on Instagram or tiktok its understandable. They may have low IQ or just really jobless with no drive or no goal , but why you?? Just a suggestion. We women aren’t so worthless after all.
He is a troll trying to get youtube views.he is using negative publicity as a way to get it .
Hello guys .. alot of bloodshed has been happening so please dont beat me or cuss at me when I say this ..
so I spoke to one of my professors at DU (Political science department) about that polity question - safeguards of liberty in a liberal democracy and she definitely says the answer is Elected Government. She said though separation of powers and rule of law are other ingredients but all of them wont be possible if a state does not have anelectedgovernmentat first (also the question specifically says liberal democracy) .. only then those things can be assured. She also told me that with respect to such questions - read some philosophers (even if not from an optional background) like Aristotle, JS mill , Berlin etc in free time and that may in general invoke some interest. Also despite my background in this subject , I haven’t taken PSIR optional so don’t think that I am in anyway advertising any optional .. just putting an end to this debate of “one of many interpretation “based questions.
I too marked Elected government option but ye wala galat hai. Mera 2 polity ke mistakes bahut bhaari padne wale hain. Doosra Article 32 mark kiya maine.
Yaar unhone bola toh correct Elected govt hai .. I asked an expert to finally put an end to this debate ki kya hoga ..
even I marked that article wala question as 32. Some stupid mistakes of polity and economy(like that last resort question)is also going to cost me alot ..
probably your expert isn't so expert. because there is a difference between elected government and elected government by universal adult franchise
Oh acha! Itna specific hona padta hai .. ki matlab universal adult franchise bhi mentioned ho..
maybe yaar you are right. My source is an LSR professor who teaches political theory and constitution from the past 20 years and has written many things on this topic so I thought she would not be wrong in this.
Lets see :)
Analyse the options
B - concentration of powers
D - separation of powers
Go through any paper of upsc and you will find that whenever such opposite options are present thn answer is always one of the options. And out of the two options, separation of powers is the relevant option.
Moreover, elected govt option itself is incomplete and vague. Baaki one can go into the political science theory and research papers but that will yield nothing.
That qstn seems to be lifted from a wire article about modi gov being autocractic despite being an elected one and india claiming itself as a liberal democracy . Answer is seperation of powers ,100%.
If your mother and sister, their love, care and sacrifice have failed to make you realize that girls and women are not worthless but as much worthy as boys and men, i am afraid no one else can. I therefore am convinced that your bimari is lailaaj. I hope you opt for some sort of rehabilitation .
Everyone who claims it are those who tried desperately to get a women to love them and failed in it miserably and then goes on a lifelong tour of badmouthing women.The case of fox claiming grapes as sour .our sunny is one such lol
The Hindu Article on Satluj... (2019)
I believe its satluj and never considered it to be doubtful.
@saurabher43267 i was having teatime conversation with my father last month. He told me avery beautiful thing which I am proud of, he said, you have become a better and much informed individual for your age, while my colleagues children of your age are busy in their jobs and earning well but all they have become is a pay package. They are reduced to individuals with a tag of say 10, 15 lacs package and nothing more than that.I am proud of you that you are different, even though you don't earn now, but that's still fine, because eventually you will. I have never seen any educated and well formed 30 year old man not earning..So even if I don't clear it, i think i have received my samadhan..
Thats an amazing ,cultured father☺️.
@Aurang_mirasudar my father himself couldn't clear CSE. So he understands how we feel.. i am lucky that ways atleast.
Thats a big deal .Most of the people get into severe depression,suicidal thoughts when they fail mostly cause of breaking parental expectations and emotional blackmail.you were blessed in that part.
#Rant
The more i keep think about what i could i have done differently in the prelims exam the more i feel that nothing much could have been done. 3-4 silly mistakes which could be avoided, but ye toh sabhi ka hota hain and exam mein mostly unavoidable. Rest 7-8 questions that i could answer correctly were those where i was confused with 2 options, in fact in most cases everyone is. Just that on the given day i chose one option and if i had chosen the other i would have 4-5 marks greater than the supposed predicted cut-off . Yaar i just don't get the exam. Most of all i get irritated when i hear topper's talks saying the same things which i have mostly practiced. I know that even if i had my best day i would only be hovering around 96-98 which gives me no confidence w.r.t what needs to be prepared.
Toppers talk looks like a cmplte scam to me.if we take a sample of 1000 people who follow those bs strategy given by topper gods and another 1000 who follow their own strategy,2nd group will have more number of people passing the exam.
@harilal same here bhai, scoring 106 without considering doubtfull, but still unsure about result
Ifos vacancy has increased.so,if u get 105 by upsc keys,u would be writing mains.
Anyone please tell me....in fig tree question of paper 2.....in the passage it's written, that fig trees are present in urban and agricultural landscapes where other large trees are absent. Why can't I say that fig trees grow where other large woody species are absent.
Option -1,3 and4 is right only.....but statement 2 also has some weight yaar
Cause passage only refers to urban spaces whereas option is in a general way.
Yaar iska bhi btado.....computer waale ka....not completely safe, cyber security, communication technology wala?? Kaunsa sahi hai...alag alag coaching alag dere hai
This looked to me the toughest rc in paper.i think I did all other rcs right ,though I have not checked it by coaching keys as I don't believe in them. could be 1,3,4 anything except 2.
@toooldtodieyoung It's fake mostly. If they know cutoff then why +-1. they should be telling exact marks.
Insider Scam like astrology.Though I do believe it would be 87.5,this is common knowledge lol.anyone could predict it plus 2 minus 2.
@Hernan cortez 4 toh bhut hi general statement hai, 3 ka chance hai but woh bhi unrelated sa lgta hai , 1 closest hai but mujhe narrow lgra hai....2 ko kahi yeh cyber security plus hacker etc se na read krle
I don't know hindi .I marked c but I m not convinced it's cmpltly crct.what u marked for it?
@Hernan cortez 4 toh bhut hi general statement hai, 3 ka chance hai but woh bhi unrelated sa lgta hai , 1 closest hai but mujhe narrow lgra hai....2 ko kahi yeh cyber security plus hacker etc se na read krle
I do later thought 1 is the closest but I don't know exactly .It's a very tricky one.
@Hernan cortez yeahhh....true...very weird....I also thought 1 is closest....but now when Im reading it again....I'm having my doubts... anyways....chodo yaar... prolly end of this week sab pta chaljaega
You have a bright chance to get this qstn right.i m mostly worried abt paper 1,so did not looked into paper 2 much.
@Hernan cortez I may be completely wrong, but now I feel I think it's an incomplete statement, very narrow, should have been added with something
I just thought the same as you and marked c but 80 percent 1 shld be right but u cant be sure like in other qstns.
@Hernan cortez religious denomination is C, right?
Yes.
So, I know I am too late, and there has been possibly no discussion on this question, but a doubt
The question "With reference to Indian judiciary..."
Statement 1 is:Any retired judge of the Supreme Court of India can be called back to sit and act as a Supreme Court judge by the Chief Justice of India with prior permission of the President of India.
I marked C initially, but went with B, because I remembered that the prior permission of the retired judge is also necessary. Every answer key has given the answer as C, and no one has discussed this here. Just a passing, inconsequential doubt, if anyone would help clarify it.Yes prior consent of the judge is needed, but can he be called back with the permission of President? Yes. That's what is asked
No even with permission of president the consent of judge is needed reach article again
It clearly mentions consent is needed before he sits and acts as judge but consent is not needed for chief justice to call him.in short,anyone could propose love but it's upto the person to reject it or not.
So, I know I am too late, and there has been possibly no discussion on this question, but a doubt
The question "With reference to Indian judiciary..."
Statement 1 is:Any retired judge of the Supreme Court of India can be called back to sit and act as a Supreme Court judge by the Chief Justice of India with prior permission of the President of India.
I marked C initially, but went with B, because I remembered that the prior permission of the retired judge is also necessary. Every answer key has given the answer as C, and no one has discussed this here. Just a passing, inconsequential doubt, if anyone would help clarify it.Yes prior consent of the judge is needed, but can he be called back with the permission of President? Yes. That's what is asked
No even with permission of president the consent of judge is needed reach article again
It clearly mentions consent is needed before he sits and acts as judge but consent is not needed for chief justice to call him.in short,anyone could propose love but it's upto the person to reject it or not.
To sum up excess of knowing anything brings confusion
ha ha,true.
So, I know I am too late, and there has been possibly no discussion on this question, but a doubt
The question "With reference to Indian judiciary..."
Statement 1 is:Any retired judge of the Supreme Court of India can be called back to sit and act as a Supreme Court judge by the Chief Justice of India with prior permission of the President of India.
I marked C initially, but went with B, because I remembered that the prior permission of the retired judge is also necessary. Every answer key has given the answer as C, and no one has discussed this here. Just a passing, inconsequential doubt, if anyone would help clarify it.Yes prior consent of the judge is needed, but can he be called back with the permission of President? Yes. That's what is asked
No even with permission of president the consent of judge is needed reach article again
It clearly mentions consent is needed before he sits and acts as judge but consent is not needed for chief justice to call him.in short,anyone could propose love but it's upto the person to reject it or not.
To sum up excess of knowing anything brings confusion
paper is completely based on rote learning.In this qstn,i forgot that point u mentioned.It created a situation in any particular qstn u r well of if u dont know the qstn then not knowing it 100 percent exactly.
After exam even those who didn't appeared for exam says "it was so easy"
In quora many get beyond 120 as per their self confession and are giving gyan abt developing proper elimination techniques.I almost cried abt my incompetence reading that.I could understand those who prepared well getting upto 110 but beyond that its a hard pill to swallow
Why is it that people who are sure of not clearing csat usually claim their gs marks above the range of 95-100....last year too the comment section was full of scoring 120 in paper one but can't clear csat.
paper 1 was in the style of state of psc and favoured rote learning ,this year unlike in the last 3 years.As per my theory,many of those who r good at rote learning alone would have suffered in csat but they would have found this year paper 1 easier than 2020. some were good at anytype of paper though.
@beginn371316 most probably C but some people are saying it can be only lichens too.
why would this even be doubtful ,just now came back from a hill station and there r mosses everywhere on walls.its common on walls in any rainy place.people just adapt answers according too what they marked,its ridiculous.they leave the qstns which r truly doubtful.last year there was a qstn on mahatma gandhi vs karl marx.everyone gave the answer as stateless society when the real answer is economic determinism.if anyone likes to argue do so when 2020 key comes.
@Hernan cortez Bhai I marked C only. I was just telling what are the discussions around the question.. So chill bhai.
I was just frustrated with coaching scammers
@beginn371316 most probably C but some people are saying it can be only lichens too.
why would this even be doubtful ,just now came back from a hill station and there r mosses everywhere on walls.its common on walls in any rainy place.people just adapt answers according too what they marked,its ridiculous.they leave the qstns which r truly doubtful.last year there was a qstn on mahatma gandhi vs karl marx.everyone gave the answer as stateless society when the real answer is economic determinism.if anyone likes to argue do so when 2020 key comes.
It's stateless btw.
Most likely are lichens only.
Ok let's see in 2020 key.btwn why do u ignore mosses when u could see them directly everywhere on walls?
With reference to the history of ancient India, which of the following statements is/are correct?
1. Mitakshara was the civil law for upper castes and Dayabhaga was the civil law for lower castes.
2. In the Mitakshara system, the sons can claim right to the property during the lifetime of the father, whereas in the Dayabhaga system, it is only after the death of the father that the sons can claim right to the property.
3. The Mitakshara system deals with the matters related to the property held by male members only of a family, whereas the Dayabhaga system deals with the matters related to the property held by both male and female members of a family
In this qstn,2nd statement does not talk abt joint hindu family property alone and sons cannot claim rights when father is alive in the seperate property of a father under mitakshara law whereas third statement talks abt hindu family property and it is absolutely right.then how every coaching key gives 2 as the answer?
@toooldtodieyoung its true that virus cannot be grown only in synthetic medium..it can be grown in artifical medium which is cell culture of virus.
Both r same🙄.isn't it? Whats this word play.
See my best friend says that Upsc prelims is very easy and it is a cake walk. He has high IQ and has been topper of several Maths olympiads.
I told him ki bro science and social science are different things. Challenged him to take SSC cgl.
He failed in tier-1 of the exam despite being aan Ntse scholar and Kvpy scholar.
To kehna bahut aasan hai, Ghalib ek baar form toh bhar kar dekh.
Upsc prelims does not test iq at all, especially paper 1.so, u r right.
@toooldtodieyoungPeople are confusing easiness with Lack of shock factor. Last year, paper was heavily based on Agriculture and there were random questions like Hathi ka gestation period. Thus, many candidates were shocked. This year, People were more or less mentally prepared for anything UPSC were to throw at them. Therefore, lack of shock factor is being confused with easiness of paper. But this year, UPSC, being UPSC took up the sports section, right to city, and many such questions out of blue. Also medieval questions like Arcot are still debatable to this day. Even elimination techniques did not work much this year as options were wierd. So, all in all, Paper was not shocking, but difficult to score.
Last year paper was an awesome one, so conceptual.sorry for saying this but sometimes i feel cause of morons who cursed that paper, they set this stupid one in 2021.
was accidently binging on student responses after the UPSC exam (mainly GS1) due to stupid youtube recc. But i noticed most students felt the paper was easy or at best moderate and definitely easier than last year. Personally, I was blank after the exam as i thought it all depends on how my guesses went and definitely would not classify the paper as easy just because 5-10 questions were easy/repeated from last year. Just wondering how others felt immediately after the exam. I know it does not matter now anyways, but i have time to kill.
I knew it was tough and got upset even while attempting it.either they were lying or they were state psc candidates.
@NeganUPSC framed the 2 very close options in the Qs to prompt the candidates to attempt... which led to more wrong... and last 2-3 years tricks/elimination strategy (like all, only, not, S&T all etc) -- led to more wrong... thatswhy ppl roaming around 85+ (rarely i have seen above 100) -- while in 2020... many were there >100 (me too)
I still cant get over that idiotic qstn, where francis xavier died.lol, it turned out he died in china but was buried in goa.
cut off 86-88
because last year cut off 92.51
assuming 2 ques. got deleted (+4 marks)
but the score must have been scaled to 200
so on avg. everyone will get 1.9 marks
so net deduction of 2.1 marks
so actual cut off could have been = 92.51 + 2.1 = 94.61
Now a poll on telegram showed decrease in number of marks of students compared to last year coaching keys-
the average mean marks reduced is 9 marks
so = 94.61 - 9 = 85.61
now taking into consideration reduction in vacancy add 2
85.61 + 2 = 87.61
also many people have doubts regarding csat so reduce 1 mark
87.61 - 1 = 86.61
so cut off will be 86-88ps- did this calculation few days back, thought of sharing here😅
Accurate one👍
I find a broad consensus in the answers of all major coaching for much controversial questions "made up on forum". Like right to city, EPFO casual labour, state defination, Chenab, Synthetic media, Mitrocondrial disease, fedreralism features, British Parliament comparision and even Magnetite particles.
Dispute lies for copper, pressure cooker which are open to interpretation.
Looks like somewhere most of us are dragged in a cycle of wishful thinking, over thinking and insecuri
Many saw 15 marks reduction in upsc key last year.same in 2019 too.its not delusion without basis
Just found this in my tax module. May be useful for those debating Dayabhaga and Mitakshara.Mitochondrial genetic disorders can be caused by changes (
lol 2nd statement is actually wrong in mitochondria.i marked d so its anyway wrong for me but a is the right answer.
@Hernan cortez at this rate only specialists in the relevant fields can answer UPSC paper. Nothing General about this knowledge.
True.In mitochondria certainly 2nd statement is wrong.every coaching key has misinterpreted dna as disease.just a google search would have revealed it to them.i dont say this to convince myself of more mariks as i marked D but to point out fallacy in coaching bs keys.
@Pam123 ncert is always correct. In fact, this is the concept behind the 3 parent baby technique, where always the maternal dna is replaced by donor's mitochondrial dna to prevent mitochondrial disease
Second statement asks abt mt disease.father can't transmit it through mt dna but could through nuclear dna.
hey, i am new here, just wanted to know abt my chances for pre as per folks here scoring 100 obc after taking
casual labourer b&c as right
magnetite all of these as wrong
smelting D wrong
Indus river system chenab as right
Mitochondria A as right
Cooker D wrong
British C right
U will make it for sure even if u get 85 or 86
@Hernan cortez hello sir ty, cud u tell how many of those may go right
British ,epfo,magnetite r certainly right but Chenab,mito may be wrong,smelting,cooker I don't know.in short u would neither gain nor lose.you will be writing mains for sure
@Hernan cortez bt u were defending mito as A earlier on this page, cud u spread some light over it
Yes I did but I just don't know exactly as to the mind of upsc setter,thats why I replied may.it could be right too.if u were already getting 100 obc ,why do u keep worrying.thats what astonishes me
@Hernan cortez The fact that you are saying some answers to be "certainly" right, are these right cos you marked them that way or you are from the panel which formed the questions? Else itna confidently kaise bol raha h? Khudka opinion h to use a disclaimer like "In my opinion"...
Lol,if that's the case,no institute could release answer keys and everyone just gives opinions .why do u get concerned abt me using the word certain as u r awake and knew upsc is the final authority unlike me?most of the controversial ones r wrong for me,few I counted as wrong .only for magnetite D, I counted as right.
