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What is your fallback book?

So this is for all the booklovers out there? What is your fallbook? As in which is the book you read when you don't feel very good, or need to take a break from the Universe?


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Does English, August by Upmanyu Chatterjee count as a fallback book?

Not for me.. Upmanyu chatterjee leaves me with a strange feeling which could last for hours.. going by the thread intro, english august would lead to more disillusionment than comfort

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Not for me.. Upmanyu chatterjee leaves me with a strange feeling which could last for hours.. going by the thread intro, english august would lead to more disillusionment than comfort

Et tu, Caesar ? :P

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@Neyawn 😁😁


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@Neyawn Ceasar dint get time 2 utter ths!At least u did😀


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When I need a pick-me-up, I go to The 13½ Lives of Captain Bluebear. Gorgeously lighthearted and wonderfully complex, a bit like The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. 

When in existential crisis(cough), I find reading Siddhartha by Herman Hesse or Ikigai or anything by Thich Nhat Hanh clears my head.

For a push, a few pages of Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance. 

But really, about any writing that is beautiful to read( not to imply there’s non beautiful writing, just that some writing is more beautiful than some others) does it for me. 

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When I need a pick-me-up, I go to The 13½ Lives of Captain Bluebear. Gorgeously lighthearted and wonderfully complex, a bit like The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. 

When in existential crisis(cough), I find reading Siddhartha by Herman Hesse or Ikigai or anything by Thich Nhat Hanh clears my head.

For a push, a few pages of Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance. 

But really, about any writing that is beautiful to read( not to imply there’s non beautiful writing, just that some writing is more beautiful than some others) does it for me. 

I had very high expectations from Ikigai. I bought the hard copy as well. While I am of the opinion that every book teaches you exactly one thing ( not because they don’t have other lessons, but because our limited faculty let’s us observe one thing in the end ), and I did get that one thing from Ikigai, I was honestly greedy for more from the book.


Maybe, I will need a second read some months / years later for a second revelation.


Anyway the same book appears to give a different message depending on when we are reading it - which influences our capacity to absorb things.

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@Neyawn Not every book Sir, but every self help books that claims to have the secret of something. These books are made extremely palatable, which immediately make people feel good or changed but I believe their effects don't  last much longer motivational videos.

Whereas, things figured from fiction, lived histories might stick longer. 

Self help books are more like mantras don't let things affect you, don't be greedy whereas  history or philosophy about how a former slave Epictetus influencedMarcus Aurelius to practice stoicism or how Diogenes lived is better to internalise.

Instead of this book Ikigai which I believe was very superficial, reading about Bushido The Samurai Code and how it influences Japanese culture might be a better insight.



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Far better to read Epictetus' or Seneca's works than to read their life stories. They themselves would have advocated thus.

As for Diogenes, I have to admit, I don't really understand what he was trying to do. From most of his actions, it seems like he was really hungry for attention and fame, because of which he underwent suffering. On realizing this, Plato, his famous contemporary rival once made a clever remark:

Diogenes was once standing outside and got a soaking, and when the bystanders took pity on him, Plato, who also happened to be present, exclaimed, ‘if you really want to have occasion to pity him, simply walk away!’

(Diogenes Laertius 6.41; G57)

(Extracted from Diogenes The Cynic: Sayings and Anecdotes)

And about self-help books, I agree most of them are quite shallow (haven't read Ikigai, so can't comment, actually I am looking forward to reading it some day), but there are quite a few gems as well. Take for example, 'Ego is the enemy' by Ryan Holiday, which would be considered in the self-help category I think. It has quite some fascinating insights on success in professional life and life in general.

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@IamThat ofcourse that's what I meant by their lives. As far as Epictetus' works are concerned there are no writings left by him, all that is left are of his pupil like Arrian also Marcus Aurelius quotes his greatly in Meditations. Seneca's works are way easier to get into that other stoics of course like Letters from a Stoic, On shortness of Life are great for even someone who isn't much into  philosophy.

Diogenes has been criticized alot of course but you must see it in the light of the fact that whereas Plato did academic and theoretical philosophy of how society should be while Diogenes lived his philosophy of cynicism, the man lived in an urn come on, as one with nature.


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@Bepop Don't get me wrong, I am not a Plato fan. I have read some of his works, and they seem like guessing in thin air, and making up weird abstract concepts which don't make much practical sense. Its just that on this particular incident, I liked his response.

As a fan of Stoic philosophy, I prefer philosophy which can be lived, not philosophy which is limited to mental games. Diogenes didn't live with nature. That is a Stoic concept, not a cynic one. I haven't seen a man or even an ape living in an urn, or hugging cold statues to show the nearby men that he could bear cold. He underwent extreme hardships to get attention and fame. I think that is contradictory to philosophy. What would you achieve by such stunts? Clearly not happiness or mental peace. So, it seems rather futile as a long term strategy. Along with that, some of his acts were really outrageous, any self-respecting man would agree. I think you haven't read Diogenes' works (collected by ancient Greek historians, of course, he didn't write), in the book that I refer in my previous message, it is mentioned that he used to masturbate in public view, 'to release tension from his body'. I find that disgusting.

And if you find living in nature a virtue, the land of India has no dearth of such men. A great many sanyasins have lived and died in the forests, and the entire initial and final stages of the Hindu system of life (brahmacharya, vanaprastha and sanyasa) were supposed to be spent in the natural surroundings, collecting naturally avalaible food, firewood and sustaining life using them, without interacting with cities. Diogenes was just a hypocrite, who while preaching to be abandon shame, (and thus one would logically expect, the ego too) was full of ego, and picked up silly verbal fights with people, to show that he was some awesome brave man to be worshipped.

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@IamThat  Let's agree to disagree mate. It seems you have made your mind with his live being an antic to grab attention. Yes I am aware of the fact him masturbating or shitting in public and no stoicism isn't the only philosophy that claims it virtue as living with nature, its also a known fact  that Zeno of Citium to have been influenced by Antisthenes of whom Diogenes a pupil so can't there be similarities. I am not claiming Diogenes is to be worshipped ofcourse his way of living might have been extreme but that does mean one can't learn anything from him.

Also the banter between Plato and Diogenes is because of the fact that he believed Antisthenes to be heir of Socrates who taught both of them.

Anyway as they say in latin De gustibus non est disputandum. Read what you prefer man. Don't get upset over it, not very stoic of you. (kidding, don't take offence on it) 


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"Let's agree to disagree mate"
Please don't, the show had only started! :D
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@ssver2 This is not reddit mate.


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I also wanted to share something. I don't know how many of you follow podcasts, but there is a information revolution occurring in that genere. Few years ago, podcasts were in nascent stage in India, but now the scenario is completely different. And one of the reason for such tectonic shift is this person named as Amit Varma. He is the leading pod caster in India right now, with his podcast show named as- The Seen And The Unseen. It is a weekly podcast on economics, politics, and behavioural science. I really urge you all to give it a try. I guarantee you all that there would be something which might get your attention. Personally for me, it has expanded my brain, and has given me insights on many issues which are directly related to this exam.

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Sharing with you the 

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Proton9,Muffin
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What a brilliant thread. Have been bookmarking the suggestions. It was real treat to learn about so many books. Gave me a reflection that seeking knowledge is the best investment of time and energy. The very idea that we as humans evolved as species which can preserve and transmit knowledge appears magical to me. 

I also wanted to share something. I don't know how many of you follow podcasts, but there is a information revolution occurring in that genere. Few years ago, podcasts were in nascent stage in India, but now the scenario is completely different. And one of the reason for such tectonic shift is this person named as Amit Varma. He is the leading pod caster in India right now, with his podcast show named as- The Seen And The Unseen. It is a weekly podcast on economics, politics, and behavioural science. I really urge you all to give it a try. I guarantee you all that there would be something which might get your attention. Personally for me, it has expanded my brain, and has given me insights on many issues which are directly related to this exam.

Yes, his podcasts are long. I thought I must give this chetaavni before. But you know, there few advantages of podcasts. The best thing about podcasts are, a) our brain's capacity to listen to the words is way more than to read. And b) One can multitask while listening to a podcast, which is not possible in any other medium. 

There are many episodes from which one can start. My entry point drugwas this episodeon the creation of Bangladesh, and what a day to share this bit :) 

Sharing with you the 

He has more than 200 episodes. Yes, not all are relevant. Thus, also


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4. In case you intend to pick and choose (he has whopping 200 episodes), here is a quick peek into the most popular ones- 

Deep se deep jalatey chalo, prem ki Ganga bahatey chalo.

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Neyawnsaid

Some time back, there was a student whom I asked not to put “reading feminist literature” in hobby. She did. And was not so happy with me for making this suggestion. After her selection, she sent me a gift. I didn’t read it for a year thinking oh she judged me!

Then last year during the lockdown, I read it. And loved it.

This is it!



Honestly speaking I have attached the word feminism negatively in my mind as incidents like lucknow cab case has greatly contributed in this thinking. No, I am not against equal rights for all but I hate selective and convenient use of feminism which generally serves empowered strata of women only and is elusive for deprived ones.




But this book has some different feminism which we should aspire for. After starting it I couldn't help myself from reading it in one go though I violated my go to bed time again (as usual 😜)




Thanks @Neyawn for recommending this (thanks to Minal too)

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What a brilliant thread. Have been bookmarking the suggestions. It was real treat to learn about so many books. Gave me a reflection that seeking knowledge is the best investment of time and energy. The very idea that we as humans evolved as species which can preserve and transmit knowledge appears magical to me. 

I also wanted to share something. I don't know how many of you follow podcasts, but there is a information revolution occurring in that genere. Few years ago, podcasts were in nascent stage in India, but now the scenario is completely different. And one of the reason for such tectonic shift is this person named as Amit Varma. He is the leading pod caster in India right now, with his podcast show named as- The Seen And The Unseen. It is a weekly podcast on economics, politics, and behavioural science. I really urge you all to give it a try. I guarantee you all that there would be something which might get your attention. Personally for me, it has expanded my brain, and has given me insights on many issues which are directly related to this exam.

Yes, his podcasts are long. I thought I must give this chetaavni before. But you know, there few advantages of podcasts. The best thing about podcasts are, a) our brain's capacity to listen to the words is way more than to read. And b) One can multitask while listening to a podcast, which is not possible in any other medium. 

There are many episodes from which one can start. My entry point drugwas this episodeon the creation of Bangladesh, and what a day to share this bit :) 

Sharing with you the 

He has more than 200 episodes. Yes, not all are relevant. Thus, also


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Deep se deep jalatey chalo, prem ki Ganga bahatey chalo.

Where were you the other day when @whatonly organised a zoom party?

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Neyawnsaid

Some time back, there was a student whom I asked not to put “reading feminist literature” in hobby. She did. And was not so happy with me for making this suggestion. After her selection, she sent me a gift. I didn’t read it for a year thinking oh she judged me!

Then last year during the lockdown, I read it. And loved it.

This is it!



Honestly speaking I have attached the word feminism negatively in my mind as incidents like lucknow cab case has greatly contributed in this thinking. No, I am not against equal rights for all but I hate selective and convenient use of feminism which generally serves empowered strata of women only and is elusive for deprived ones.




But this book has some different feminism which we should aspire for. After starting it I couldn't help myself from reading it in one go though I violated my go to bed time again (as usual 😜)




Thanks @Neyawn for recommending this (thanks to Minal too)

Yes it does. It is a widely read book now, students quote it in answer writing and essay, and I have included stuff from this book in my notes too. You should see it in various materials of forum that deal with gender issues.

THE_MECHANIC,
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Definitely “Rashmirathi” by Dinkar.

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@RBIz-lib; libgen ; two websites where you can find all books...and complete pages unlike google books :p


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