{"id":1008,"date":"2026-08-09T18:45:56","date_gmt":"2026-08-09T13:15:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumias.com\/psir\/pyq\/deliberative-democracy-does-not-have-its-salience-without-upsc-psir-2017-0602\/"},"modified":"2026-08-09T21:56:14","modified_gmt":"2026-08-09T16:26:14","slug":"deliberative-democracy-does-not-have-its-salience-without-upsc-psir-2017-0602","status":"publish","type":"psir_pyq","link":"https:\/\/forumias.com\/psir\/psir-pyq\/deliberative-democracy-does-not-have-its-salience-without-upsc-psir-2017-0602\/","title":{"rendered":"Deliberative democracy does not have its salience without participation and participatory democracy does not have its credence without deliberations. Comment."},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pq-flow\">\n<div class=\"pq-flow-h\">Flow snapshot <em>&mdash; how the answer moves<\/em><\/div>\n<div class=\"pq-fb\">\n<div class=\"pq-pill p1\"><span>Intro routes<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"pq-ft\">not rival models \u2192 two halves of one legitimacy \u2192 participation = demos, deliberation = logos statement marks the exact failure point \u2192 each collapses without the other \u2192 breadth needs depth, depth needs breadth<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"pq-fb\">\n<div class=\"pq-pill p2\"><span>Body flow<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"pq-ft\">participatory democracy = active citizen beyond the ballot \u2192 Pateman: participation revives civic life, counters alienation \u2192 but headcount alone turns populist \u2192 loses credence \u2192 deliberative democracy fills the gap: quality of reasoning \u2192 Habermas: communicative action, better argument over power \u2192 reasoned debate gives participation its credence \u2192 but narrow expert deliberation = elite discourse \u2192 loses salience \u2192 each completes the other: inclusion makes deliberation authoritative, reason makes participation credible \u2192 Barber&#039;s strong democracy = participation + debate -. Rousseau: sovereign people who must continuously deliberate<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"pq-fb\">\n<div class=\"pq-pill p3\"><span>Counter-view<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"pq-ft\">fusion is a demand, not a guarantee \u2192 Fraser: single public sphere reproduces inequality, needs counter-publics \u2192 skilled speakers form an epistemic elite \u2192 mobilisation can still capture participation<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"pq-fb\">\n<div class=\"pq-pill p4\"><span>Conclusion routes<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"pq-ft\">statement holds \u2192 deliberation alone = elite talk, no salience \u2192 participation alone = populist noise, no credence Fishkin&#039;s deliberative polling \/ citizen assemblies fuse wide participation + evidence-based reason &#8211; legitimacy needs demos and logos together<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"template":"","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"footnotes":""},"pyq_year":[45],"pyq_marks":[35],"pyq_topic":[51],"pyq_paper":[33],"class_list":["post-1008","psir_pyq","type-psir_pyq","status-publish","hentry","pyq_year-45","pyq_marks-15-marks","pyq_topic-democracy","pyq_paper-paper-1"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumias.com\/psir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/psir_pyq\/1008","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumias.com\/psir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/psir_pyq"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumias.com\/psir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/psir_pyq"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/forumias.com\/psir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/psir_pyq\/1008\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2430,"href":"https:\/\/forumias.com\/psir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/psir_pyq\/1008\/revisions\/2430"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumias.com\/psir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1008"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"pyq_year","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumias.com\/psir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pyq_year?post=1008"},{"taxonomy":"pyq_marks","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumias.com\/psir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pyq_marks?post=1008"},{"taxonomy":"pyq_topic","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumias.com\/psir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pyq_topic?post=1008"},{"taxonomy":"pyq_paper","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumias.com\/psir\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pyq_paper?post=1008"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}