@K_9
Don't know about other services but figures of IRS IT and CCE are correct. verified with an IRS.
@dancingminionasked for leave after prelims but management didn't provide, so quit.
@vvvikas0078212thanks man!
@Nalandagood to know that others too have started with hitler
@dancingminioni dont know if my answer helps you. I'll just share my experience. Before plunging into UPSC, i had 1.5 years experience in JP Morgan. And then followed by 3 failures n hence 3 years gap. Didn't want to risk losing backup career also n hence decided to get back to IT. Started applying for jobs and very few companies responded n that too they were startups/semi-MNCs which i didn't want to join as I wanted time to study again for CSE. Fortunately i got offers from 2 very good MNCs in 2.5 months. JP Morgan again n Oracle. Worked in Oracle for 1.5 years again before quitting after prelims this year as management didn't agree for 3 months leave.
What worked for me?
Referrals : very very few interviews got scheduled through consultants. College friends, my colleagues who were 10years experienced helped me get an interview opportunity and all i wanted was that. I had faith in my tech skills.
My answer to gap: i wanted to follow my passion and if not by 25 i couldn't have done it ever. And now I'm done with cse, i want to start my career in IT. I even told to few that I'm 26 so don't want to mess-up with my career anymore
Few things that struck them in my resume (i think so):
- Hail from #1 regional engineering college in Karnataka ( not iit/nit). So most managers were aware of the college name as i was searching in Bangalore only.
National level tech paper published. An exciting mobile app developed way back in 2011 when there was no Android in India. Tech challenge winner certificate. And some interesting projects.
My suggestion:
Please save your interviews referred by your friends to the end. Until then Attend every interview shortlisted even if it's a startup, you can always refuse joining it if uninterested. Because You'll get to know the questions trend in the market. After you prepare for variety of questions, attend interviews arranged through referrals.
Prepare with utmost seriousness. Remember they are not fools to hire someone who has gap. So you have to prove yourself that you are competent enough even to the day. i was stunned to see JP Moragn drilling me for 6 rounds + HR round for its own ex- employee before selecting me.
Be mentally ready that hunting jobs in IT takes 3-5 months.
Good luck!
@Scorpion888UAPA was there in vision mains365 updated that came at the end bro.
@kochikaameEveryone's gonna become philosophical for a short time at some point in life. That's part of life, i feel
@dancingminionsure dude, you can pm me. Workload in any company depends totally on the project you are into. I had 2 offers and since i had worked in JPM n knew their hectic workload I chose Oracle even though it's CTC was lesser than JPM
@Champak
How many here feel such a move by IRS(C&CE) is fair? To decide interse seniority based on marks scored in cse + fc+ service specific training?
@ChampakTrue, this step in itself might be fair to some extent but their ultimate motive is what scares me. it might open up for partial nepotism while allocating services. gotta get in with cse'19 itself
@STyou can at least check if you have ticked the question. I forgot to tear the question papers of gs1 n 3 from the booklet before handing it over
@bevancomsakshi is Dhoni's wife bro. And Dhoni was TC in Indian railways
@chintanmananthe truth i feel about upsc cse is that one can take a call on his/her (n)th attempt only after his/her (n-1)th attempt goes futile. His/her opinion about 'n'th attempt while giving (n-2) or (n-3)th attempt would just remain as a thought. CSE is that luring and kind of addiction!
Not to offend anyone. Just my opinion
Guys let's not debate on topics like 'imposing hindi' in this forum at this point of time where people from all states participate actively on CSE related issues. One never knows if he or she is hurting other person's sentiments n I'm scared it might take a course that's absolutely not required during the mains result week.
Peace guys \m/
@Caesaromg, i laughed so hard looking at the quora answer on PCM benefits you shared
@zombielandless than 5% of telegram group members would have written mains this time. I know only 2 personally there n both haven't given mains this time.
One shitty group it is , opened some day only to scroll down 30+ stickers of a Turkish actresshaven't opened after that
@Bodhgayatype @postmains2019 in telegram search
@Katsumotothe line " you aren't giving time to yourself". Don't you think it is inappropriate? You are indeed giving time to yourself: your core interest, desire, what you as a person really want. And that's why you have delved into this path! Stay optimistic buddy.
But yes, i totally recommend one to be cautious about the upsc vicious cycle and get out of it when it is apt. Life is bigger n beyond upsc cse.
@paranthapijja~on a lighter noteEveryone's entitled to have his/her own feeling about the result day but upsc is the BOSS B-)
@TETRACYCLINEews injection may be
said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
Today in UPSC attendance ; 2 computers are on , 13 tablets ON plus 43 people still there . What are they doing ???
Last time when computer was ON , we got NDA result
I really don't understand how n why people are co-relating cse results with number of active computers n attendance in UPSC office. You never know if some computers aren't switched off while employees left office (people just lock screen n leave at times). At times certain computers will have to be switched on for days to perform some system tasks.
About employees, we don't know if they are full time employees who work inside physical upsc office or remotely logged in because upsc will surely have some back end IT team who will have to maintain portal.
CSE is just an another exam for UPSC amongst many exams it conducts every year. We value cse more because we have written it. They wouldn't be keen to stay back in office just to declare our results faster.
They'll declare results when they are done with all the procedural
work.
Correct me if I'm wrong
@Caesarsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@NadigVinayall is correct, but the attendance thing, it's biometric attendance & usually becomes zero by 7
Dude are you 100% sure that the attendance is based on biometric only ? I can't comment unless i know of it for sure. I know few civil servants personally who do not work from office but from house at times and still their attendance will be counted in the department. I don't know if it's something different for upsc.
Anyway, i really don't think employees stay back in a government office only to hurry up results declaration process of some exam. Come on dude, its just a routine work for employees there. Why will they be pressurized to do such a work. Even if people are present inside, it'll be for some other reason i feel.
It's better we carry on our daily tasks. When results come out, we'll some how get notified
@Caesarloli meant civil servants who don't work in office on some days but work from home.
Edited my comment later
@kohliwaghow sure are you? Or "mann ki prediction" ?
@Ithriveoncocaineit's okay to jump in Bangalore if there's no one at the other end. Here the camera quality is not that great
And you are talking about 2am! Your rear red light and the night dark mode increases blurring effect in the pics. I would have definitely jumped
@IthriveoncocaineAnd this morally right or wrong need not be evolved from rules/ law book only. For me morality is not harming or even to create panic amongst others and the rules by any administrator would be to serve that purpose only. So to be very very honest this is what i have been doing all these times. Even in day light when I'm in a hurry , i check all the other ends( including police), if the red light is over 60s n if i find no vehicle within ~400m or pedestrian within 50m i just jump the signal.
@BGPwho said it? UPSC phone desk person?
@shudhanshu-mbm28750said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
- If you check the properties of pdf, you can see it is generated through word file. UPSC pdf is generated through automated script. There is script in database which trigger the script to generate pdf in a defined format. Only variable name is required to be changed.
Good tech point!
@NadigVinaysaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
On results: People in tg are telling that it's either before upcoming Wednesday or post 16th Jan as there is some court case related to EWS on 16th. Any idea what's this case about?
Copy pasting the response i got in tg:
"It means that,
- The EWS aspirants approached the tribunals against the order of UPSC to withheld their candidature.
- However, EWS were allowed to write the mains as per order of tribunal on 19.09.2019.
- Post mains, result declaration is contentious issue because if the EWS are left out of the list may lead to serious issues. However, if their names are mentioned in the list, say with astrix, it would be safer as case would be sorted out before the commencement of interview. The case is listed for 16 jan.
In view of above tribunal directed the declaration of results including the EWS
PS: Here EWS means aspirants have have failed to declare their certificates in the format sought by upsc.
If EWS loses the case then Non genuine EWS will be replaced by genuine EWS.
That's why case will be dealt before Interview.
Assume that for now UPSC will release real/true/ raw result.
Then there will be two scenarios:
EWS loses the case - Genuine EWS will replace the non genuine one.
EWS wins - status quo."
@Shubzyeah you are correct. Better to stay optimistic about results and keep preparing for interview
@kochikaameyeah, I am just waiting for it n getting frustrated as each day passes by
@kochikaamesaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@Piyadassisaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@kspdupscCalled them .. said iss hafte bi no chance, December mei nai aa raha ,, agle 10 din tak chill raho Jan 1st week mei puch lena ek baar he said..
Bahut jyaada ho Raha hai ab. I think I am going to freak out now. They are playing with our future. I want to have some sort of closure regarding this as I am not really planning to give the exam again. But here they are taking so much time and not letting me look up for a job too. So so frustrating.
@kochikaamesame here, unable to either start hunting job
Or prepare for upsc interview properly
@bevancomsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@suniljannever understood the mad rush behind ias and ips.Have talked to more than 20 ias and ips in private and all of agreed that job is not as much impressive as media makes it out.
They also seemed to agree it's all the media hype and aspirants jump into prep without knowing their aspirations needs and true realities behind the job.
P.S for me neither ias nor ips figure in top 3 choices...
Not necessarily dude. You think people with MD, LLM, MS outside India, MBAs from IIMs and many other equally competent people decide their career just because of media hype? and that too when it comes to their personal aspirations and career which they have to pursue for next 20+ years?
Even if one ignores qualifications, the average candidate's age who clears this exam is 27-28. And I'm sure everyone would have undergone a roller coaster life until then, gaining more from their life experiences and internalising what their internal desires are, than a mere external media push factor.
If one isn't interested in IAS, IPS, IFS its not apt to disrespect others' wishes. For some, your first preference might be their last preference or not even tick that service. I know people who only ticked IAS ONLY because they weren't interested in other services.
You definitely cannot generalise things!
Peace!
@Champaksaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
Railway Services to be merged.
Yup, saw the same pic few hours back n i think this might also be the reason for delay. Now they'll have to merge IRTS, IRPS and IRAS into IRMS( Indian Railway Management Service). They'll have to make changes in DAF-2
@tmblnd1325194said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@NadigVinayit will be implemented in next year only. Not this year. Clearly given in pib website
They have mentioned that the changes take effect from next recruitment cycle. I feel the recruitment cycle here is the recruitment cycle of Indian Railways service. So for them, 2020 pass out candidates from CSE '19 are their next set of officers. They have had their 2019 recruitees already from CSE '18.
Correct me if my interpretation is wrong.
@Raillifesaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@NadigVinayyeh saari civil services wali railway service ke lie hai
Jo ies se hai unpe kuch impact nhi padega na vo asi ki asi rahegi??
no idea dude.
@MalcolmCEO of Jan Aushadi Scheme is an IRS 2011 batch officer. It's only 8 years of bureaucratic experience but look at his position now. There are multiple factors involved while scaling up the ladder.
@MalcolmEvery individual on this planet has his/her unique life clock. Some achieve early, some a bit late and some might not at all. Everyone's track is different n unique. You just have to cherish the present n live with optimistic hope
@TeddyWestsidesaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@TeddyWestsidenow it does reveal my identity and my sound a bit boastful but since there has been this discussion i would like to share this article which i read as i woke up and believe me these kind of things give such satisfaction that i can't express it here in words. !!
Can anyone translate that to English in brief? Tough for non-Hindi guys to understand.
@Champaksaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
TG info about tomorrow being the D day seems unreliable. What do you guys think?
the person whom we can trust is some one who is in service already n can get info on probable d-day through some sources. And you are the one who is in service already
@zombielandyou'll finish family man in 1.5 days. Its that good
@ManchesterUnitedThanks dude, will check it out
Indian Railways civil servants outrage at the new service created:
@abhishek_psaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@DKTI read both TH and IE for 2019 pre. After giving paper I found both of them overrated for pre(they are very useful for mains). Whatever I scored to clear pre was due to insights and Vision CA booklets and some grip at statics and some tukkas gone right.
The tukkas , so called guess work n elemination, you could mark because of knowledge from newspapers you read everyday. That knowledge in one's backdrop will unknowingly help in deciphering 3-4 questions. I feel reading newspaper helps in both prelims n mains.
@parispg394
@BulbulSenStop calling them if you want peace of mind. Our calls won't expedite result declaration process by UPSC
@Kira0705said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
monday result yani almost done max by tuesday
Chill. Don't predict until the hearing is over. And we don't know other procedural hurdles in a govt org post hearing. It would definitely take more than a day time in any org.
@pysh12950yeah they'll release soon after the hearing for sure. But i doubt it to be on the immediate next day.
@pysh12950lol.. I'm waiting for the results eagerly too. But just asked people to not keep hopes on the immediate next day. That's definitely not how any org works. I'll be more than happy if they release on 6th late night itself
@Lazydreamer
In the evening on the day before optional, unplanned, I went near the examination centre as it was near my room and then was freaked out to see candidates coming out of hall writing English n regional language papers. I had thought they weren't compulsory and had missed intentionally to study for optional. Multiple thoughts started pouring in suddenly at the moment - about the best possible efforts I had put in this time, quitting job after prelims only to buy time for mains and my bleak future because of ignoring compulsory papers. Rushed inside the building, pleaded faculties to allow me write them but none obliged including the one who was my professor! Dejected, angry at my own mistake and negligence, I came out helplessly and was boiling with frustration within!
And then I hear a bell ringing. No! it wasn't of the examination centre but of my house! In no time I open my eyes and hellll it was one f***ing dream. Took 2 minutes to console myself that it was a dream!
This happened to me a month after mains this year
@Caesarsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@NadigVinayO bhai, I got scared reading it
haha imagine my state while dreaming !
@DKTchill dude. My comment was on a lighter note. Everyone's pissed with delayed result. Just took the opportunity to make fellow aspirants smile. Not to offend you or bevan.
We'll stay here for few more days n move on to Interview / Prelims preparation mode/ out of UPSC cycle forever. Let's have healthy fun amidst frustrating moments
My apologies. Peace
@Behemothsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
Irrespective of age and number of attempts, we all wish to ace this examination and switch to a different phase of life. Result is around the corner. But some of us have a situation which is literally "is baar bahut kuch stake pe hai (many things are at stake) ". You want to brave the circumstances but still fear the consequences. Any of you deal with the same situation of "many things at stake"??
I have decided this to be my last attempt. I am not even looking at prelims/mains books as I'm not giving my attempt in 2020. If i sail through it would be great, else moving on with backup career. Tired after being in upsc cycle for 5+ years.
@LazydreamerLet's hope we sneak in with this attempt
@zombielandsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@Lazydreamer2019 was my third attempt and second well-prepared attempt. 2020 will be my last attempt and execute backup options of MBA or MS
I had the same plan when it was my third attempt. Had thought of MBA if failed at uspc, but theUPSC NASHAdragged me to this point and now I feel I don't have the mental energy to do MBA at least the immediate year. May be I'll have to work for few months, recoup the energy n prepare for MBA
@zombielandAttempted 2 with very short time in hand to study as I was working. I regret attempting those years (had thought who would require 6 chances to clear this exam, so attempted). 2 attempts full-time. 2019 attempt with job again until 21st June.
@pranay3962129said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@NadigVinay
Is it possible to do mba from.good colleges after gap of 3-4 years? Also, I have not seen anyone beyond the age of 27 years doing the regular pgp (in my friend circle).
I'm not the right person to answer this dude. But i know a person who had studied for upsc for few years, got 107th( don't remember exactly) rank but was denied service because of some reason. Then he joined IIM and got into a very good company. But he fought the case in court parallely and got reinstated as IAS finally.
Others who know people joining PGP with 3-4 years gap can answer this.
@nikhilrai0827880said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@Lazydreamer@NadigVinayLeft paytm around 2.5 years back to prepare for this exam. Recently for the last 2-3 months, I also was feeling the same way (not finding it worth to remain unemployed), and hence have rejoined the corporate (as any more gap would have made me completely obsolete for corporate scenario). Have decided that will work even harder and give future attempts with job only.
With proper required dedication n determination , i really feel one can clear prelims with job. For mains, i dont know if it's possible to give best attempt with regular job. I quit after the prelims for the only reason that i had decided this year to be my last attempt and wanted to give my best. If your company provides loss of pay leave option for 3 months, that would be great.
Good luck bro
@nikhilrai0827880how did your mains go this time?
@nikhilrai0827880said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@NadigVinayNow a days agar company mein starting mein apna caliber dikha do, then they easily provide sabbatical to retain you (paytm guys also offered me 3 months sabbatical as another option instead of resigning, but I rejected that), so counting on that if I clear pre this time also.
Hence the plan is that I will take job very seriously till march, and then start preparation for pre from april. If I clear it, will ask for sabbatical (jitni bhi duration ka wo dein).
Obviously all of the above is valid if I am not able to clear this time. Regarding this year's mains, it was my first one. Have completed all the papers, with relevant answers in most of the questions, and not so relevant in some. So, frankly have no idea what to expect.
With the same intention of availing loss of pay , i had worked well until Feb to build an impression in my company. But to my bad luck my entire team and higher teams in India n US got re organised completely in June due to under performance of the product. So it was difficult for my manager to convince the new seniors.
Your plan is well thought. Good luck with the mains n interview!
Any body here giving IRS as second preference over IPS? I.e. IAS>IRS>IPS. How would you justify yourself?
Attended an interview guidance session by a retired IAS few days back and the officer told such preference would attract a question over the reason for preferring IRS over IPS. Or why not IPS over IRS.
@Vishwanathsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
Hey guys..just a petty curiosity. I have left a total of 105 marks(overall in gs). I have not used any diagrams or flowcharts.
Are there any instances from past of such cases making through in mains?
It's hard to answer this question for any sincere aspirant who has faced the harsh side of our belovedUnpredictablePSC. Too many factors involved in mains n interview. Quality of gs, ethics, essay n optional answers. Subject expertise of evaluator on questions which isn't his domain, answer presentation, scaling down trend of few optionals, relative peer performance in same optional, etc. A person who hasn't missed attempting a single mark also just can't be 100% sure of clearing mains/ interview. Just hope for the best.
@TaurielGaram Masala GangGroup name as unique as forum usernames
@AzadHindFauzDude, thank you very much for consistent credible information about CAT proceedings all these days. Good luck !
@Akbar_BirbalYup, once. don't remember the year.
@STyou are not alone
@ManchesterUnitedsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@AnduinOhh nice!
Where do they celebrate it?TN?
Bhogi is celebrated the day before Sankranti. I am from Karnataka and it's celebrated here too
@NadigVinaywasn't getting the word 'lohri' since morning in this group. I had thought it to be one among many hindi casual words i dont understand. Got to know now that it's fest related word.
@Anduinsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
Itna mahaul banane ke baad , group mute and 'not today' message
It's telegram dude
@ManchesterUnitedsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@NadigVinayReally?
What part of Karnataka
I am from Shimoga and this is the first time I have ever heard of Bhogi
Surprisingly even I'm from Shimoga and it's celebrated there too. Frankly speaking, I only knew that the name was associated with Sankranti festival n was celebrated the day before it. Got to know the fest ritual/practice from mom now
@Oldhorseswho? Godi media?
@TETRACYCLINEthis guy had told everyone in early 20s of December itself that result wouldn't come before jan15th.
@TETRACYCLINEno i just meant mid jan, not 15th exactly. he sounds reliable was all I wanted to say.
@AzadHindFauzTrue, I get it.
@BulbulSenwhat did they say?
@tsstomorrow is a holiday right? Or was it today in central govt?
@Akbar_Birbalhadn't read the above comments that he has wished in tg now.
@Haltshould have gone to bed without checking forum. Took mobile to set alarm and here I'm scrolling tg groups, forum.
@Caesarsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
Itni rat ko kisiko call krke result bataya toh sochega pagla gaya hai intezar karte karte
So you are sure of clearing!
@ManchesterUnitednanige beliggene bandittu hearing to some one saying that it's going to be postponed again. Nodana , ee Madhya raatriya kaayuvikeyalluu majavuntu. Innond swalpa hottu kadu malagodu
@ManchesterUnitednodana Namma luck hegide anta
@upadhyay-ankur6127868happening since evening
@ManchesterUnited17th release alva.. I'm waiting for it
While most of my classmates left to US for masters i left to Delhi in Nov 2014 after quitting a job in IT. Underwent Political Science coaching which took too long to get completed ( got over a month before prelims) and i failed miserably in prelims 2015 (didn't know i had to study laxmikant also). Returned to Bangalore, Changed optional to Kannada literature in '16, worked hard but missed prelims '16 very very marginally. Dejected ,recouped myself to give one last attempt full time n worked even harder solving multiple institutions' question papers for '17. But this time i failed in exam hall itself with self created pressure that if i wouldn't clear it this time when i'm full time aspirant, i would never be able do it with job ever. Missed marginally again. 3 years gap pushed me to take up job in IT as i feared doors to get closed in backup career too. Joined IT in early Jan'18 and made a room near company to save commuting time although my parents stayed at Bangalore itself. it took time for me to get acquainted with the work n i had to concentrate properly as i feared lay off. With much lesser time in hand i prepared how much ever i could but failed in '18 prelims again. I had decided to move on. But my inner heart wanted to give one last try as in 3 of 4 attempts i had failed due to adverse situations n not because of my inability. So gathered courage, prepared for optional n mains more in 2018 post prelims, and cleared prelims'19 with job itself. Management didn't provide 3 months leave so resigned,, served notice period and studied my best in remaining 85 days. I had left only one 10 mark question across all papers, had written good answers in many n below average in few. was very much expecting an interview call but failed again.
Now I'm 28, done with 5 attempts, 0 savings (infact living on debt after investing 13lakh into this for 6 years), exhausted mentally completely. I am definitely not in a state of mind to give the remaining 1 attempt. My dream chase has come to an end. I feel so bad for not being able to achieve my dream and After so much of exposure about this profession i have to go back to a smaller world IT n start liking a job which i don't by heart. All that this exam process taught me was to live with humility n to never let the courage, spark in you ( to do anything) die down. I'm happy to have learnt that so many souls fight hard to get what they want in life despite having an easier route to settle down in life.
Remember, certain goals are so so great that even failing at achieving it also makes one great . And i proudly say that CSE is one such.
Good luck to each one of you!
@NadigVinayby the way please let me know other good professions which i can look at, other than IT. Not interested in any state PSC exams / banking.
@VivekanandSBro, I do not want to exhaust my 1 last attempt without any improvement in mains as I didn't read anything after '19mains + mental fatigue of 6 years of studies. So if at all if my life provides me a conducive atmosphere n opportunity to attempt in 2021 or 2022 for one last time, I would attempt it with complete preparation. I'm definitely not a person who would give up on something despite being competent. But you know it's life. At times I have to bow down before something that's not in my control. I'll see what's there in my destiny box. Thank you for your suggestion.
@Abraham-Maslowsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@NadigVinayJust one word on your journey : Respect.
Remembering this :
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
- Theodore Roosevelt
Thank you very much for this one dude. It 'll help me move on completely (if i decide to) with great self-satisfaction!
@Abraham-MaslowThanks for the link!
@walterwhit3thank you dude!good luck
