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@ChampakAlready in service?

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@ChampakIts nice that you still kept going for more?I'll give my 1st next year and I dont even have the capacity to comprehend what it would take to have a go at this exam 6 times.
Anyway, all the best for your life. Cliche but - Stay hungry, stay foolish...I guess.

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”It is a wicked thing to be neutral between right and wrong. Impartiality does not mean neutrality. Impartial justice consists not in being neutral between right and wrong, but in finding out the right and upholding it, wherever found, against the wrong.” - Roosevelt.@ManchesterUnited

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@zombielandtrue as someone with a degree in social sciences I second this.
First thing, it’s not possible to study to multiple subjects in graduation - so no general studies taiyyar nahi hojayega.
Second thing, the only possible leverage which an arts graduations gets you is time - as its relatively lightweight - but then again most of us aren’t that foresighted to think from UPSC right after 12 with a few exceptions of people like Tina Dabi. If you just read Hindu for those 2-3 years and maybe NCERTs you are way ahead than the crowd - likely hood of qualifying in first attempt is immense.
I personally thought of it only in my last year of graduation (something I hugely regret).

Infact, I don’t think there is any other exam where people in general (those not preparing) are more clueless about what it actually demands. Matlab max junta ko lagta hai ki -
a) MA level study is required
b) UPSC asks questions from the books we read
To explain to them how UPSC itself has not prescribed any books, and how what all we read for this exams serves merely as a reference and guiding point to answer what the exam asks us is a tough task. It’s not school where there is a set textbook. And then add to that dozen other variables which determine the result.

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@kochikaameKilling Eve (2 seasons), Chernobyl (mini series). Though Narcos type ni hain?Ek Money Heist karke Mexican show hai - its maybe similar (?) par ye do better hain.

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@duster2019I think he said so because you wrote Muslims immigrants when in reality migrants are from other religions too. Bangladesh has a 8.2% Hindu population.

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@duster2019so if he doesn’t agree with your view of something. He’s not capable to be a civil servant? He’s akin to “leftist Hindu columnist” (your words not mine)?

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@MadamSir he was using his name pejoratively.

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@KatsumotoShawshank Redemption
Green Mile
Forrest Gump
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty
Pursuit of Happyness
Into The Wild
The Freedom Writers
Million Dollar Baby

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@Vika@Caesaryou guys are right probably. I somehow focus more on his conviction, and less about the end. His way at life may not be agreed to by many but it was his. He chose not to objectify his life by money and greed, and went out to figure out for himself what life means to him.?

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@ManchesterUnitedfunny you would say that because Karnataka students have actually been voicing their opinions vociferously since past weeks. Top university IISC has relentlessly been protesting against CAA-NRC, and so has IIM Bangalore in form of silent vigil. Christ University management had to issue notice to students to not discuss/debate it on campus. Meanwhile, Manipal also had students organising protests. Even teachers at IIM Bangalore along with students wrote to govt condemning violence against students. IISC yesterday even protested to show solidarity with JNU students. NSLIU Bangalore and IIM yesterday gathered at Town Hall for the same purpose.
Also, Apart from Karnataka, various other premier institutions of India and the plenty others in the entire world have been voicing their concerns.

But, I guess selective amnesia does run deep.
Also few people here, while masquerading as neutral arbiters or trying to pose as the devil’s advocate are actually harbouring very disturbing double standards, and few even bigoted.
Before 2014, everyone used to say shit about congress which they deserve, and everyone used to openly criticise Manmohan Singh, and everyone used to support Kejriwal and Hazare against fight for corruption.

Why are same things today condemned at?
Right and left both have very toxic hypocrisy and I hope we not as aspiring civil servants but just as humans, don’t lose our heart in the process. It’s almost troubling to see what have people come to be. While the Left suffer from selective amnesia when it comes to plight of Kashmiri Hindus, Islamic fundamentalism and discrimination against Hindus in theocratic neighbour states. The Right is blind against 2003 riots, mob lynchings, absolute control over neutral institutions, hijacking of journalism, poison being spewed 24/7 on IT Cell and so on.

Aristotle said rightly that educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all. And, one might become an IAS one day, but that doesn’t mean one’s good person. And it’s almost appalling that people would go to lengths to defend ministers when they see how common man suffers at their hands. Nanavati Committee exonerating you know who but pointing fingers at those 3 honest IPS officers which tried to who tried not be a yes man and protect innocents. All former bureaucrats Shiv Shankar Menon, MK Narayan, SY Quirashi, and tonnes of others, entire academia, experts, worldwide intellegensia - everyone is left? It’s not easy to speak out when you have something to lose, and it’s very easy to be pro establishment because it’s win win. While one not be anti-something just for the sake of it - not doing anything, is equal to encouraging it. Actors, YouTubers, few good journalists receiving death threats for showing a dissenting voice? This is just going backwards.

Let us for once try to put ourselves in original position, behind veil of ignorance. Condemn each and every wrong, and call out hypocrisy where ever you see it. Islamic fundamentalism is fucked up. But so is every other form of religious fundamentalism.

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@AzadHindFauzyou might want to look into Phillip Zimbardo's Stanford Prison Experiment (there's also a Netflix movie about it). It was to find out how often people conform to social roles given to them in a mock prison environment. It was one of the most controversial experiments in social psychology. They recruited few random people to act as prisoners and guards in a controlled situation. It had to be stopped midway because he found that the people assigned the roles of prison guards were becoming increasingly violent, abusive and indulged in dehumanising behaviour towards to prisoners, even when they knew that they are just innocent people acting as prisoners. Experiment concluded that people conform to their social roles even when it goes against their moral principles, and that situational factors (power, authority) are more responsible for this behaviour than dispositional factors (they themselves).
Conformity has also been cited with respect to racism in America post Trump win because they're are situational factors like power, authority, wide acceptance to provide backing people's racist thoughts which otherwise would have been dismissed - so now they assert such things more so often.

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@John_Titordo you recommend reading it? Have only read a handful of Classics.

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@LeoMessiAs someone already said Suyash Chavan is in Berlin for CFL training (must’ve chosen German). He would be back after an year for exam and only then he would get posted to a country which may or may not be Germany.

I knew another IFS officer she was in Paris as her CFL was French. She got posted to an African country as many African counties are French speaking.

It’s a gamble. Your first few postings definitely relate to your CFL but it doesn’t really matter much later on. But having a good rank enables you to have a CFL of your choice.
Even then it’s not that simple - consider this you chose German - you could be posted in Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Belgium, etc which are well to do countries but we don’t really have very active foreign policy towards most of these. We have great relations with France and France is also asserting itself more now in EU in wake of Brexit. So French seems reasonable choice but it’s wishful thinking to expect to be posted in France itself since many African speaking nations are past French colonies, that increases odds of being posted elsewhere.

I wouldn’t worry so much about postings, as long as it keeps changing, which it does. Or fir kya pata perspective change ho jaye and relatively less happening postings give more satisfaction.

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@LeoMessiYar, I can only ‘assume’ that French might have more seats. I didn’t say rank decides CFL but that it’s on merit cum preference basis. She was 104 rank if I remember. Only a handful under 100 would have chosen for IFS in the first place and even that no one can say about what language they opted.?

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@johnwickI’ve heard from IFS officer himself that it does determine the first few postings.
But if that’s not the case it’s only better, since it could be very limiting.?

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@johnwickthat’s nice to hear. IFS was why I got into this in the first place?

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@CaesarAren’t AMAs supposed to be anonymous on Reddit? (If not explicitly stated otherwise) ?

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@AzadHindFauz@ManchesterUnitedthat I knew. I meant usually people other than celebrities who do AMAs do it anonymously. But I guess that’s not the routine.

@ManchesterUnitedyes, I myself was a long time lurker! Only started 2 years back. Most useful social media yet.

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@Hermione_Granger last line sounds like an oxymoron.

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@kochikaameI prefer r/india over r/indiaspeaks but it has its shares of issues too. Been on both sides criticised someone from left got labelled privileged (kinda true I guess). But called out fakenews on indiaspeaks and got labelled leftist.

But r/India is equally sensitive to dissenting opinion, regardless of how much they romanticise dissent.

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@kochikaameOh yes. By and large I agree.
Mostly I have time only for subs dedicated to movies, TV shows. And sometimes, philosophy and books. Reddit otherwise, is great for expanding on your interests.

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@kochikaameNo Country ForOld MenCentrists?

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