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am i  dumb, I didn't understand the case studies

understand karne ka extra dedh sau minute lagega re baba 

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ethics me sab kuch sahi chal raha tha bas aakhri ek ghanta aur 5 case studies. Pakistan cricket team ki tarah ladkhada gaya waha par. planning sab theek thi, upsc ki case studies ne tevar badal liye. ye cheez mere plan ki contour ke pare thi :(
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I don't understand one thing, for 250 words in gs 1 to 3 UPSC gives 3 pages and for same 250 words case study they give around 4.5 pages.

Ab samj hi nahi aata ki word limits me rhe ya pages bhare. 

mppsc main ethics provides a 1/3 of a page for 5 marker, but one whole page for 4 marker of case study. so ti think case studies ka jalwa he yaha par

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@iceblock luckily i think you made a correct choice but issue is with extra 30 minutes you consumed in 2 pagers.so far as this specific paper is concerned, I would not attempt case studies first at any cost.
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@Hawkeye1301 Vimdhayak ji, prabandh jaldi hi ho jaega.


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GS4 case study


Prabhat ke jeevan ka dukh jaanne ke baad apna dukh chota lagne laga  ! 😁

case study me jitne options doge utna jyada critical analysis karna padega, jitna gehra kua khodoge utna andar ghuste jaoge😂😂

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"A society regulated by public sense of justice is inherently stable"  - John Rawls
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@Najdorf Tougher than the past two years, definitely. 


guruji paper 2 ke bare me batao

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@masteroptimist What do you think about the papers?


last time se to tough lage mujhe

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Review of psir paper 1?

Not straightforward I feel, had to think on the questions a lot. 

this has been the general trend across all humanity optionals i feel. 

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The principal reason why Pakistan is highly unlikely to lift World T20 cup is it's over dependency on it's opening pair. Hamza Alavi's concept finds coherence in the structure of Pakistan cricket team as well. Pakistan cricket team is over-developed in the sense that  while babar-rizwan axis does provide it strength of steel, yet the fragile yet turbulent middle order remains indicative of resembling what alavi calls as military-bureaucracy-oligarchy. Thus, if either of the babar-rizwan defences is breached, the over developed middle order will be subjected to transparent exposure, and the team will collapse in one of a hundred thousand complex yet subtle ways. Indian cricket team must ensure not to build overdeveloped team structure as it makes it very easy for opponent in decisive games to capture victory. In other words, overdependecy breeds over development which is the Antagonistic Contradiction to Sustainability and Self reliance.
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last time se to tough lage mujhe

Last time kitne aaye the aapke ? Aur kaisa hua tha ?
I think last time thodi lenient checking thi paper-1 mein


i wrote very gs type answers in optionals, thus score over 220 in optionals, horrible and humiliating score.

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PubAd review? 


Did anyone else feel like they were writing generic answers for some question in P2?

this is for every non numerical paper. just look at law optional paper, you'll know

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Guys, is it really possible to fill all the fifty pages,  in GS papers. As I had written many 15 marker questions in 2 or 2.5 pages

when you order a big pizza with the original intentions to satisfy your curiosity about it as well as get full, that is, satisfy your hunger..... and achieve them both with half of that pizza, with other half lying there ready to share the night with your dustbin..... how do you measure the paisa-wasool index of that pizza? By the question that whether the pizza satisfied the original objectives that triggered the very order of the pizza or simply by the fact that you couldn't finish half of that implying you could consume only half the money-equivalent of what you actually paid? Obviously this evaluation varies from person to person.

A wise person will focus on the satisfaction and quality of pleasure that one half of pizza gave him, ignoring the wastage. A relatively incompetent person will spend the night with regrets and thoughts of wasting half the pizza that despite best efforts, he couldn't finish.

So i believe, a wise evaluator will ignore unfinished space ( uneaten half of pizza) and prioritise quality of what's written ( pleasure derived from one half of pizza) but not everyone is necessarily wise. your prayers should focus on giving your copies a wise evaluator. that's all i guess.

And yes by hook or crook, by sama dama danda or bheda, diagrams, flow charts, maps and graphs, it's possible to fill every square inch of each of those 50 pages in 2:55 hours and relax for 5 minutes after that, although  i could never do any such thing whatsoever.

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What happens if you don't strike off pages for unattempted questions in optional ?

in my first mains in 2020, i got 150 in paper 2 optional. i didn't have time to cross the blank pages but wrote good answers. in my second mains i wrote poor answers in p2, but diligently crossed all blank pages and got 108 so you decide....

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hope22said

Any ideas on how to spend the break time? Exam dete time laga tha bahut kuch karna hai after it gets over, abhi ideas nahi aa rahe. What are you guys upto?

it's like answer writing, lgta he bhot content he but likhte samay blank structure. i advice crime patrol by sanjeev tyagi and adil khan

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@rockhard i left 1 10 marker in ethics and and 1 part of case study (which had 4 parts in it) gs 1 lion and bull i hardly wrote a page and half and tropical cyclones colour codes i just wrote traffic lights
Gs 2 attempted all quality wise not sure of governance questions as they were too vague in 20 markers Gs 3 attempted all quality wise was satisfied but again it depends on evaluator
Optional i left 70 marks in paper 2 out of 250 even out of 180 i did one silly mistake in 20 marker
In paper 1 i left 20 and out of 230 i did 40 marks silly mistakes and out of rest 190 2 were theory questions


optional bura bigda he apka lgta he

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@rockhard i left 1 10 marker in ethics and and 1 part of case study (which had 4 parts in it) gs 1 lion and bull i hardly wrote a page and half and tropical cyclones colour codes i just wrote traffic lights
Gs 2 attempted all quality wise not sure of governance questions as they were too vague in 20 markers Gs 3 attempted all quality wise was satisfied but again it depends on evaluator
Optional i left 70 marks in paper 2 out of 250 even out of 180 i did one silly mistake in 20 marker
In paper 1 i left 20 and out of 230 i did 40 marks silly mistakes and out of rest 190 2 were theory questions


optional bura bigda he apka lgta he

Science walo ka aisa hi rehta 380-420 correct attempt se 280 se upar aate 

ok

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750-760 General Cut Off...

your source is likely jagranjosh which gave expected mains cutoff 720 of 2021, so that source cannot be trusted and you cannot be taken seriously on this. Cutoff will likely decline with respect to previous year because increment of 299 seats is huge given the low base number of seats on which it adds up. but eventually everything will depend on how strictly or leniently marks are given in general.

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Left one case study in ETHICS paper and a Sub part in another case study


Left one 10 Marker in Geography Optional Paper 1. 


Rest Attempted all. 

But guys i have one big query : As Time passes by, i get points in my mind and then thinking like i should have done that and this and this keep running in my mind. Do everyone get like these?? Coz as i get more points now, feeling like i wrote poorer quality answers than i should have given

हासिल-ए-ज़िंदगी हसरतों के सिवा और कुछ भी नहीं,

ये किया नहीं, वो हुआ नहीं, ये मिला नहीं, वो रहा नहीं।

boss bahut umda sher he

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I feel difficulty to calm my mind after monstrous main preparation. Unable to relax, anybody in same boat? What are you doing to cool down

watching crime patrol non stop of sanjeev tyagi sir

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@Ant_Man I was confused. "mid 19th century", and "territories" made me interpret it as a World History question, but the word "administrative", "reorganisation" (exact word in GS1 syllabus) and "ongoing process" make a case for Modern history too. 
I attempted it as a world history question though.


I could recall a pyq spectre of fragmented polity in 18th century india . that must have sub consciously influenced me to limit my answer to indian history. I am sure many aspirants who wrote pyq would be influenced that way without even recalling this phrase spectre of......


but now i realise that they never specifically mentioned india this time. that opens up a hundred thousand such reorganisations and political transformations across the world. but that would also make the question very complex and diverse, requiring a few hundred pages to do complete justice instead of 3 pages.

nevertheless I am beyond doubt that it was a world history question given the lack of specific mention of India. the unification of italy and Germany also started after midnineteeth century so...

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A query regarding GS4 paper: Did you guys attempt the case studies in the order of the subparts? I went for the general approach of options available and then the course of action(while in many case studies asked this year, the course of action was asked before the options available) and addressed any extra sub-part at the end (if asked). Basically, I did not mention the subparts specifically. Will that be a problem?

even if someone says they did the same mistake but didn't get penalised, that won't be of much help to you because every evaluator is different. 

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I wrote three options in 2 case studies and only 2 options in 4 case studies

Has everyone written 3 options in each case studies?

i took 3 options for first case study and 2 for last 5. in the retrospect I think i should have chosen 2 options for all 6. 2 broad options one based on selfish interest, and other based on public interest, and always rooting for the latter in subsequent sub-parts.


I came across a toppers ethics mock test where they followed similar 2 options approach. that topper i remember got good marks in ethics. so not quoting more options is not a trouble, especially when the more the seeds you sow, the more the plants you have to water.

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@Aspirant123 options should be always be more than two.


where is it written? on what official basis do you assert that?

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1) remain indifferent
2) support your doubt and ask@Aspirant123 for more clarification
3) support@Aspirant123  and give u how 3 options can be give. 




There is not hard and fast rule..esp that jumbo case study.. subhas prabhat.. there were only two options that is either select or reject... Aur select karna hi uska answer tha... Reject karne k cons jada pros kam the .. so case study can have its own solution without resorting to multidimensional thinking as Cult in UPSC


don't tell me what to do. McCullum.focus on coaching your England cricket team, world cup is coming.

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@Capedcrusader1 3 is required when you choose two extremes and u have to choose middle path 
But if your options are not extreme then u can choose one of them n  there is no need of 3
Eg Environment notice question one can say option 1 withdraw notice option 2nd-  issue notice with time for complying with standards 

Or one of the extremes is the answer 
Eg Prabhat question either u select or reject candidature 


bhai 2 option approach is best, sari creativity agar dikhani ho to course of action ne dikhani hoti he jo puchha hi nahi gaya. last time mene 2 options hi diye the 2021 me and my score of 98 in gs4 was decent given my poor performance in 2 pagers that year. so don't worry about that.

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ap more than two options toh select karoge hi. kyunki next me apko middle path lena h. aur agar sirf 2 loge toh merit demerit zaada likhne padenge. muje yaad nai last time kya aya tha. but course of action nai pucha islie aur bhi zaada important h more options explore karna. agar course of action rehta toh alag se likh lete 1 page. but yahan toh justification dena h kisi ek option ka jo ki course of action rahega. obviously wo option detailed rahega. 


last year se koi lena dena nai

last year se Lena dena he, last yr ese hi q aaye the

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@Panchayat Its a race against time.
Everyone has to do some tradeoff. 


also we should not ignore 2 pagers and take them for granted. let's not forget they carry 130 marks against 120 of case studies. giving 100 options per case study and then ruining 2 pagers is equally disastrous.

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@Panchayat Its a race against time.
Everyone has to do some tradeoff. 


also we should not ignore 2 pagers and take them for granted. let's not forget they carry 130 marks against 120 of case studies. giving 100 options per case study and then ruining 2 pagers is equally disastrous.

For average candidates getting extraordinary marks in case studies is difficult.  Generally they will write three options. Two extreme and one middle path. Not many candidates can write innovative options. 

However, in section A there is more scope of improvisation like use of quotes; good examples, counter arguments etc. thus more scope of differentiation in marks. When we give less time to section A like 1hr 20 minutes 3-4 questions get compromised. So one can find many candidates giving mains after mains but getting marks in range of 90 to 100.

I agree. It appears to me that "Case Study Apologists" have demonstrated very extraordinary overtones towards sacrificing diamonds for glass, albeit in richly complex and subtle ways.

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@Philooptional  you're perfectly right , it's not world history question

I am very confused. On one hand i feel twas world history q, but reorganization of states is a technical term used in state reorganization act 1956. there were 3 type of states Part A B C and one territory Part D. as ongoing process we can state telangana state, new demands of states like greater nagalim, bodoland etc and territory like changes and reorganization in jk ut etc.

I just hope that it is Indian History q, albeit it's not mentioned anywhere in the q specifically. 

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iss baar GS paper me triple digit score kafi kam logo ke milenge. Kaafi logo ne bola ki papers kaafi aasan the, but after analysis over 10 days, cut off market has started sliding.

i think essay was easier this time, gs1 tougher, gs2 similar, gs3 very much easier, gs4 tougher and lenghtier, qualifying language papers easier, optional papers more or less similar. overall i think same level as 2021 broadly. but since vacancies increase by 299 that should pull back the cutoffs.

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psir ki janta nahi h kya zada iss saal ? how did it go for u people ? 

psir ki janta to bhot zada hi ja rahi he. kuch popular teacher (s) ke karan ab is subject ki demand aasmann chhu rahi he. 


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Ji sir, jo main exam mei soch kar likh paaya wahi upar share kiya hu.


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I could be wrong

But my assumption that it's not world history Qn rather it's more oriented towards Post independence or Modern India is based on the following factors

1) Firstly I have History as my Optional subject ,so writing question on French, German or Italian unification is a default choice if there's any mention of word "Nationalism" which was not mentioned in this Qn 

2) Secondly in the question ,the word "states" 'S' was not in capital which is pre-requisite if we're talking about Nation State like France , Germany etc


3) Thirdly the word "continuous ongoing process" is used in question to refer to the events that's been still going on to the events of statehood demands in India, in the context of world there's little to no reorganization going on ,only thing that was in vogue atleast till 90s was decolonisation that's a different aspect altogether


4) Lastly "administrative Reorganisation" is used more likely for Internal classification inside a country ,so it clearly indicates it is asking about provincial reorganization within a country and UPSC unlikely to ask about internal classification of any other country except India

Hindi is not my mother tongue ,so I didn't check the Hindi translation ,if that brings more clarity ,someone pls either add to or refute my assumption





I just hope you are correct. since history is your optional, that lends greater credibility to your arguments. i also attempted it from indian history perspective only.


on your Hindi translation point, there is a term used ->"pradesh" and few sources like collin dictionary define it as "a state, esp a state in the Union of India" which also gives a ray of hope 

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@rockhard rock bhai primary rock secondary rock kisi ko yaad nhi tha sahi me...teacher bhi bolenge ki easy aaya tha...students bhi...lekin jo exam hall me baitha hai..wo jaanta hai ki uspe kya biti hai...troposphere...photochemical smog questions me bhi clarity ke sath 6-7 line likhna mushkil tha agar Geo optional na ho toh


Finally someone said ki primary rock waala question "exam condition mein" likhna difficult tha. Was too embarrassed to tell anyone ki I found it tough to answer in exam hall. :p


yes it was weird question. they probably wanted to create some suspense otherwise why would they not say igneous rock in its place. i just wrote about all the rocks their types and properties and rock cycle. hopefully will get 1 mark

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@rockhard rock bhai primary rock secondary rock kisi ko yaad nhi tha sahi me...teacher bhi bolenge ki easy aaya tha...students bhi...lekin jo exam hall me baitha hai..wo jaanta hai ki uspe kya biti hai...troposphere...photochemical smog questions me bhi clarity ke sath 6-7 line likhna mushkil tha agar Geo optional na ho toh


in sab ke baad bhi aap 2-3 din pehle yaha par keh rahe the is bar cutoff 760 jaega, kyu esi afwahe failate ho, chit and patt both apka, ye to galat he

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was anyone from psir  aware of 10 marker in paper 1 Bases of Power concept of John French and bertram raven? i got to know from internet that they gave 5 specific bases of power. many wrote about gramsci and dahl. i left it blank.@rockhard @mounikamouni24_h944  

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@rockhard I think  in optional subject unlike gs they might ask specific technical q. from that angle i think this popular 5 bases of power concept seems relavant. i also  watched Mam's video but it was not convincing but I'm not sure 
you were saying you got permanence q wrong. what you wrote and how u sure what u wrote was wrong?


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@mounikamouni24_h944 i wrote about mao's concept of permanent revolution. but I'm not sure whether it's same as revolution in  permanence.on internet this term is being related to Marx and also Leo trotsky. a complicated question i must say 


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@Street_lamp Similar Concerns like you. 

UPSC must rethink its role as A Merit Watchdog. 

Take the case of 2022 GS4 PAPER. TO ME, that paper is absolutely senseless to say the least. In other GS (1,2,3) to a larger extent one can go with prior preparation. But in GS4 case studies : No one can prepare beforehand for Case study Part other than seeing PYQ and making sense out of it. 

I wonder whether this exam is a Time test or Aptitude test for A Future Bureaucrat. If UPSC does give more time for students to think and write,  they can really write brilliant answer which makes a lot of sense. 

But by Giving Gigantic Section A part with Editorial like Case studies in Section B, that too to finish it off in a span of 3 hours, The whole process becomes a mere ritual

Breaking Mental resolve of a Sincere aspirants doesn't make any sense as it deprive UPSC to see who can bring innovative solutions to ever lasting problems in India. 

I left one case study. While writing, my two fingers stopped responding for movement as it got paralysed in between. Yet i couldn't complete. 

If i think in GS4, Time is LOST
If i don't think and Write, Quality is LOST
IN BOTH CASES, MARKS ARE LOST!!!

I STILL DON'T HAVE CLUE HOW DID PEOPLE FINISH THIS PAPER WITH QUALITY. SALUTE THEM


The gs4 paper was analytical, lengthy and complex and I also missed significant marks-equivalent questions. this paper has potential to ruin my prospects of success and this is my 4th attempt. But I still believe this was the finest gs4 paper crafted in the history of cse.


To argue that upsc needs to rethink it's role as merit watchdog simply because you missed a case study is very mean and myopic. Try to look from their perspective. Extremely limited syllabus, too much competition and rigid framework skeleton of question paper pattern (13 two pagers with 3 quote questions, 6 case studies like always). Yet the way they innovated in 2 pagers is beyond beautiful.


yes the case studies were mechanical, but if they weren't it would have taken even more time to solve them. Bureaucrats often require quick decision making like in cases of disaster management, naxal attack, health emergency etc. if you complain about a lengthy paper to the extent of demanding upsc to rethink it's role as merit watchdog, you better self-introspect. 


Also, I can assure you, if you truly work hard, failure to solve a paper or to achieve success in cse won't hurt you to the extent of breaking your resolve.everyone can write brilliant answers if upsc gives more time, but only few who diligently burnt the midnight oil for days weeks months and years can write brilliant answers in less time.

The principal source of my discontent is not simply the fact that you questioned the role of upsc as watchdog of merit system, but the supremely incompetent reasons you used to justify your stand.

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@Street_lamp  what constructive criticism? Calling paper too lengthy is constructive criticism? paper apka chhuta he, self-introspect karne ke bajay ap upsc ko hi blame karne lage?
Problem pata he kya he, kuch logo ne  pehle case study kiya usme time jyada laga, ab unhone expect kiya tha ki 2 pagers short and simple aye because unke pas time nahi tha, short questions unke liye convenient rahenge. upsc ne iska ulat kia, aur wo log pareshan ho gye.
Upsc ke gs4 2022 paper ki tareef karna "Yes Master Attitude" promote karna nahi he, ise exercise of freedom of expression kehte he, jiska misuse kuch log wrong criticism karne me bhi krte rehte he.

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@Street_lamp i second u. this year UPSC just tested English reading capabilities and comprehension in paper 4. Content and context of questions were as usual, infact I found it easy and straight forward. 

UPSC just made paper verbose and tried to confused people with useless data, hiding matter of concern required to solve cases. For Instance prabhat and shubah case study, faltu data bahut tha ..UPSC shabdo me gumaya hai is sal, not conceptually gumaya.


In short, CSAT me English kamjor walo ki Lanka lagi hai, jiski reading speed kharab hai unki bhi.. so saying paper was tough..

Paper was tough, if we consider length and English reading capacity of general masses, it was easy if we  see as per Ethics Syllabus.


UPSC tested, ram katha sunane k baad, apko issues kitna samajme aya... Real life me aisa hi hota... Esp girls😂 .. matter kuch aur hota hai...guma fira k batayege..... Samajne wale gist samaj jate... Same happens in professional life also.. direct koi baat na karta, sab sale guma fira k baat karte and that skill of understanding gist, must have for Bureaucrats.

#my views are not universal, so criticism are welcome


Lol so you are criticizing heavy role of English language in the paper 4. bro you can write the paper in hindi, tamil and numerous other languages. It was your choice to go with English. upsc gave you choice of language, nothing was imposed upon you 😂😂

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@masteroptimist bro do u have problem with people? Am seeing u are targeting people with sarcastic tone.. match khelni hai kya? 

I found paper easy, it clearly written in my paper- UPSC want to chak out people like u.. Jink samaj me na ata kya likha hai.. just want to fill pages and comment box on forum.

Role of English and take Hindi- bro I belong to English medium, so I am writing about English.. even if u take Hindi or any regional language - UPSC not gonna give u 50 words case study , there u also required HINDI TELEGU comprehension skills ....

Kya ghanta samjha re teko mera comment and@Street_lamp ka comment.

Your comprehension is just fucked up .only god know what u understood from case studies this year..

Hasi aa rahi aise battamji log upsc me kar kya rahe


If u think I gonna responding u after this comment, forget! i sharply criticised u bcos! Bhai uPSC want to check same in Ethics! How much u understood! U failed miserably! As per your last comment on me few your back, I am no body to advice u@@@@ I must coach English cricket team lol


looking at severely compromised quality of your choice of words, i now realise i was attempting to reason with very unreasonable anthropogenic structures. i advice you to self -introspect. with highly unethical language that you leverage as a ventilator of your innate frustrations, how can you Excel ever in a paper that tests your very Ethical competencies. it clearly resonates with your language style how a bit of reasonable criticism is sufficient to expose the unethical overlord that resides within you. what you just did was a demonstration show of intolerance. Anyways, instead of preaching moral policing here, look within your own self and the very inappropriate language you used. I'm sure you wouldn't like anyone else to respond with a similar audacity.

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@MC Cullum Don't tell me what to do. I struggle very substantially to take you seriously but fail nevertheless.


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@Capedcrusader1 I'm traveling in a very boring bus, it's very difficult to pass time, i have my clear reasons for entertainment on this platform, don't know why the other party is so enthusiastic though 😂😂😂😂


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@Lawstice tum bhi aau match suru hone wala hai... MC cullun is hitting to optimistic player who wants to be bowler.


rohit Sharma is the"Grand overlord of cricket" no one is above Glorious Hitman

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Sorry for being a bitch subah subah! Everyone has opinion formed on their learnings n observations, they certainly vary person to person  & hence the opinions. Aise personal attacks se kuch nhi hona.

My funda is simple if I can't respect other person's opinion I ignore. Mere me ladne ki himmat nhi h! Haha

par mere pas ladhne ka itna time he ke ladna majboori ban gyi he😂

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@Capedcrusader1 I'm traveling in a very boring bus, it's very difficult to pass time, i have my clear reasons for entertainment on this platform, don't know why the other party is so enthusiastic though 😂😂😂😂


He prolly sitting next to you 

achcha ap bhi lady ho?

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Also in gs3 of cellulose ,smog,james webb telescope,vaccine one ?

cellulose q  and james web provided me much needed relief. i could skip them totally without any remorse.

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@Lawstice mains likhne walo ne konsa mains likha hai... Aajao... Mere team me


I'm India in Pakistan vs Afghanistan! Baki aap log dekh lo apne hisab se.

Football is a rogue, wild, exclusionary, elitist, subtly-violent and manipulative sport. On the other hand, Cricket is a neat slice of purest grace.

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GS4 is the most over rated paper after prelims. An IPS who was caught cheating scored one of the highest in Gs4 in the previous years he gave mains. 

Moreover, why this craziness of testing ones writing speed? If you really want to test a candidate's aptitutude in ethical situations, give him more time to think. 

Even a real life administrator is never in such a hurry. 

Anyways, after 6 attempts, I have been thoroughly disillusioned with this examination process. Rther than questioning the illegitimate and illogical process of selection, coaching wallahs will always encourage you to find fault in yourself. (akhir bread and butter Hai inka). 

UPSC needs serous reforms, otherwise youth will keep wasting their youthfulness over this shoddy exam. 


sir you are senior so please don't take my words seriously. you said you have been thoroughly disillusioned with the examination process. but the sad thing is perhaps you never got disillusioned with your own self and your inherent weaknesses. get disillusioned in that direction maybe. I have been a consistent failure in this exam, and even if i never clear this exam, I won't blame anyone but myself because why would anyone work hard for any exam they don't trust. again sir sorry  i have deep respect for your resilience but also deep scepticism for some things. I have deep respect for your resilience like i said so i won't use the muhawara khisiyani billi khamba noche here 

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The organisers of oylmpics should be first tested in various sports to see if they could compete. organisers of world chess championship should be first made to compete against carslen to see if they could win under timed conditions. that should be the parameter to see if they could organise the tournament or not. 
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The organisers of oylmpics should be first tested in various sports to see if they could compete. organisers of world chess championship should be first made to compete against carslen to see if they could win under timed conditions. that should be the parameter to see if they could organise the tournament or not. 

We get it dude that you don't agree. No need to be so salty about it. Take it easy. :)

mera dimag mat kharab karo

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Yes, you can say that the muhavara 'angoor khatte hain' also fits in here.But trust me, ye angoor Hai hi nahi, ye kuch aur hi Hai.Jab tak ye ecosystem humare Mann me ye baat internalise karta rahega ki FAULT khud me Hai, tab tak exam ka overhaul nahi hoga. 

Main agar iss baar select Hota hoon, (bhool bhatke hi sahi), to Mera pehla interview exam ke against hi hoga


samajh sakta hu, itni baar failure dekh ke har koi frustrate ho sakta he, don't worry sir. lekin fault exam me nahi ham me hi hota he. period.

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Dekho yaar, implementation ka baat, 1011 select karna hai to ek single paper conduct kar lo.. top 1011 select kar lo. Paisa bachega, enviornment friendly, upsc ka time bachega, staffs can be utilised elsewhere. Examiners ko paper check karne ka paisa na dena padega..

Single paper raha , mahnat kam rahi to 1 cr log form bharege, usme se top 1011 select hoge.. 


We will get real talent from crowd. Rather than odd 11 lakhs. 


These are not reforms .. implementation isko bhi kar sakte.. 

bhai tumhe paise aur environment ki itni chinta he to ssc cgl dedo na online Hoti he. upsc cse ke pattern se dikkat ye (ha tough lgti he clear nahi ho pa rahi jo bhi he)  to phir tum khud is exam ko kaise likh rahe ho, nahi likhna chahiye. waise bhi tumhare liye private job aur cse me jyada difference nahi he to apni private job par hi focus karo.

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@masteroptimist Bhai pura to padh lo acche se.. match khelne aye ho aj bhi..dikh raha..tumko match bhi suru na karna ata...veterans se kuch sikho.. samne wale ko gussaa dilana hota hai..hasana nahi.. kya admi ho yaar.m already in service ..ghatiya wali


bhai me to pura hi padhta hu, shayad tum pura nahi likh pa rahe ho😂😂😂

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@masteroptimist hay mahaveer prabhu! Kripya apne darshan de.. app koi aam vyakti nahi ho sakte.. ap kon hai batyae Prabhu.. kis bhesh me aap forum pe aye ho..😁🫂


mera dimag mat kharab karo

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@rockhard ye out of topic ho jayega . Group ka nam paper pdf, randi rona and paper discussion hai... Sab ho gaya bas Randi rona chal raha...


We are very serious UPSC aspirants..we do not delve outside topic of group..

Alag group banao apna


bhai itni gandi baatein kyu karte ho, star wagerah laga diya karo, kya bas timepass ke liye hi ate ho kya, seriously.

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Ktaap 730 courtesy semi insiders 

ye kaptan wagerah aur doosre semi insiders  ke chakkar me mat aya karo. asli authority keval upsc he. 

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@masteroptimist ha mai ullu and alt balaji dekhne k baad ata hu yaaha..


bhai ye ek online public forum he apka bedroom nahi. freedom of speech and expression par bhi reasonable restrictions hote he. thoda doosro ki emotional sensitivities ka bhi dhyan rakha karo. ye ullu alt balaji wagerah yaha mention krne ka kya matlab he. kis tarah ka agenda of discussion set krna chahte ho bhai.

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Bhai result ki date bata do tentative 

saare religion ke log ro rahe he, masala secular lagta he 🤔🤔

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Bhai result ki date bata do tentative 

saare religion ke log ro rahe he, masala secular lagta he 🤔🤔

interview ka kia start?

start kia he,thoda thoda kar rahe he, tumne kia

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Those who have interpreted "you cannot step into the same river twice" as you cannot do the same mistakes again,

Shall we drop emails to upsc to consider our interpretation?



lenient checking kare uske liye bhi email drop kardo😂😂

dropping emails instead of sensibly picking correct essay is something new in market😂😂

lagta he ab padhai ke bajay email dropping ki tayyari karna padegi 😂😂

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ye jin bhi madam kipicture he, beta ise yaha use karne se pehle inki consent Li thi tumne?

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as per Heraclitus-

It means that everything is in a state of flux, I.e. continuously changing. 


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@Capedcrusader1 Gile shikwe maaf karein humaari bhi🙏

Sasta entertainment ruk gaya logon ka 

hehe

abhi gs 4 ka bhi yudhh hoga dekhna . 1 chingari lagni h bas

gs4 paper was best paper in history of civil services ( since cornwallis lord times)

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@Capedcrusader1 He didnt even mention motherhood and got 120 
Maine to.mother and women dono.pe max 0.5 page bhi nahi likha hoga I.got 119 
1st essay i wrote badly Poor examples.
Agar ek fixed interpretation hota to bahut difference hota between his and my marks


ha to non deserving ko mil gye na galti se, ise norm to nhi bana sakte, ke jo topic he , use cchhod ke sab likho 119 mil jaenge

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@Capedcrusader1 Gile shikwe maaf karein humaari bhi🙏

Sasta entertainment ruk gaya logon ka 

hehe

abhi gs 4 ka bhi yudhh hoga dekhna . 1 chingari lagni h bas

gs4 paper was best paper in history of civil services ( since cornwallis lord times)

kitne options available likhe the?

mera dimag mat kharab karo, so jao

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essay me interpretation matter hi nahi karta he, na content, keval ek cheeze matter karti he, wo main nahi bataunga
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😂😂😂😂😂😂

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@Capedcrusader1 Gile shikwe maaf karein humaari bhi🙏

Sasta entertainment ruk gaya logon ka 

hehe

abhi gs 4 ka bhi yudhh hoga dekhna . 1 chingari lagni h bas

gs4 paper was best paper in history of civil services ( since cornwallis lord times)

kitne options available likhe the?

mera dimag mat kharab karo, so jao

yar tumhara dimag h kya dilli ka mausam jab tab kharab chalta rehta h

 upsc nikalna he to apni tayyari dilli ki aqi jaisa consistent rakho 😂😂😂😂

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BHAI 2 cheez hai: upsc kya interpretation leta hai, aur community kya interpretation leti hai. aap kuch bhi interpret karte rahiye but demand 1 hi hogi. usko leke upsc kitna flexible h wo matter karta hai.

ek ke essay me 58 bhi aae the, one in thousands esa ho sakta he jisne dono essays me demand miss karke galat interpretation kiya ho.


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strict checking in step same river twice essay may help clear lot of competition this time, will be a tough delight 😂😂. my essay of choices in part b (8) is very wise knowledge for those who attempted that essay wrongly 🤔
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@nalin_pandey78066 bhai ap psir ke ho to apko batadu, mene menon ki "choices" book quote bilkul nahi ki. mujhe yaad he thoda thoda kya likha, lekin ko likha shandar likha.


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@Panchayat maine to ise touch bhi nahi kiya, Kam se kam peace of mind to intact he😂


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@Panchayat pichhli baar UPSC ke fault par 10 din ke andar representation chala gya tha, aur UPSC ka reply bhi turant hi aa gya tha.......iss baar toh 1 mahine ke baad logo ko realize hua ki wo log galat hi interpret kar liye hai....waise kaafi logo ne mistake interpretation kiya hoga toh let's see UPSC influence hota hai ya nhi. UPSC ne agar uss quote ka 2nd part de diya hota toh logo se mistake nhi hoti


relax karo bhai, jo hoga dekha jaega, kisi ke hath me kuch nahi he, thand rakh lo.

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Ye subtle interpretation etc are very subjective and varies as per interpretation and 
Interpretations r multiple 
Essay and a PSIR/ Philosophy optional ke paper me difference is 
In essay there is freedom to interpret.

reasonable freedom hota he lekin itna bhi freedom nahi hota ke 250 me se 58 le aao

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Hi all,

This is my first post. Since the mains exam, one thing has been going in my head regarding the essay paper.

In section B, I attempted the 8th question - "Just because you have a choice, it does not mean that any of them has to be right".

Contrary to the Hindi translation of 'right' i.e. 'sahi' , I interpreted 'right' in the fundamental rights, etc. context. I defined choices and rights.Rights - as claims of individuals against state. Choices - as decision making, speech, practicing religion, etc.

I just want to know if anyone else has done the same. I began the essay with the Anuraddha Bhasin case, where the Supreme Court has allowed the 'choice' of using internet as a right for freedom of expression & profession, but fell short of recognising it as a fundamental right itself. Thereafter, I explored 3 broad headers:

- "not all choices can be rights"

- "some choices have to be rights"

- "There's need of a balance between choices, rights & responsibilities."

Would UPSC allow such interpretation of the question? Any inputs are appreciated.



- Not all choices can be rights


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@deepakY aaapko hindi translation ek baar padh lena chahiye tha. 


I got this lesson from my father. He said that you might attempt the paper in English but you will always be more comfortable with hindi. so if you ever get stuck in understanding the question, try reading hindi version and you may understand the core demand of the question. very nice lesson.

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smile wala solution mahilaon ke lie uchit hai, meri smile se toh problem bhad jati h ulta. creepy ho jata h maamla

shakal wagerah ka issue hoga tumhara, warna herman Melville to purush he, uska kam to ho gya smile se. smile wala solution mahilao purusho sab ke liye uchit he.

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How many of you believe in the argument that UPSC deliberately keeps the exams lengthy to ensure that candidates are forced to write from their subconscious and what they have internalised. Or is it one of the narratives peddled by UPSC apologists to justify anything and everything that the holy cow does.

I have a special preference for lengthy papers, hence may god bless upsc for their gs4 paper.

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How many of you believe in the argument that UPSC deliberately keeps the exams lengthy to ensure that candidates are forced to write from their subconscious and what they have internalised. Or is it one of the narratives peddled by UPSC apologists to justify anything and everything that the holy cow does.

I have a special preference for lengthy papers, hence may god bless upsc for their gs4 paper.

iss baar ethics me 145 rahega aapka

apke muh me ghee shakkar

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@Capedcrusader1 mai bhi.. Maine bahut badluck dekha hai bro is exam me.. out of 6 attempts 2 attempts mere .66  1.33 marks se gaye hai ..this is my last attempt..

Sala CAT walo ko 10 chance milte hamare time, XAT, SNAP, IIFT, etc
Eng walo ko IIT, Bits Pilani, AIEEE
Bank and Ssc walo ko IBPS, SBI, Insurance, PSUs

Sala hamare syllabus pe bas sal me 1 exam hota, usme chotisi galti hui to ..sal barbad.. chahe ap kitne bhi talented ho..

I support bro.


6 attempts de chuke ho? baaton me chanchalta to esi he jese pehla pehla attempt de rahe ho. kafi badhiya maintain kiya he apne

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@masteroptimist i am very casual person.. and fun loving. 
Batman's Joker - why so serious..

I am gregarious person.. 
I only become serious, jaha mujhe by law hona ho.. otherwise bas maje maro


ha shayad 6th attempt tak sab aise hi ho jate he, shayad me bhi ho hi  jaunga, 4 tk ho gaye mere 2 baki 😂😂

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reforms ke suggestions ke peeche keval apna selfish interest hi rehta he. wo exam ki quality ko improve nahi karna chahte, wo exam me ese changes karwana chahte he in name of reforms jisse unke success ke chances badh jae bas.
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@masteroptimist dost mere attempt 6 ho.. par above graduation

I am having MBA + 2( abroad) + 3( india) total 5 years work ex.. 

Started as working, ending as working.. bas thoda middle East and iNdia transition me 1 sal barbad hua.. vaha bas i can say myself full time aspirant...

U won't believe, mai bas 3 days leave liya hu during mains.. usme bhi 2 din Friday , sat working the..

Mai full time study me depress hota. Office me masti hoti.. been in marketing profile, to naye logo se milta.. masti me din nikalta..

Bas forest me le raha 15 days leave.. ek fakta to exam chalega. Lucky diwali aa rahi hai..vaha 6 din mil jayega..mai casual and sick leaves pe kam chalata..jis din bahut padne ka mann ho..

Baki I don't like staying alone.


bhai itne insecure kyu hote he, maine kab kaha tum failure ho ke tumne apne qualification  puri kundali nikal di jo sahi he ya farzi ram jane.

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Insider group 

Kon sa?kaptaan jack sparrow  wala?

Ha yar 

26 nov result 

Bhai, group ka Telegram link do. Please.

link nai h

Delete nhi krra tha woh group kuchh din pehle ?

delete nai inactivate. abhi kal hi aya wapas

link?

"Dil bechain he man maun sa he"

"Telegram channel ka link kaun sa he" ?

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what is your deep down feeling people ? will u b clearing this stage ? i mean we all know how we did 

I'm 101 percent sure to clear mains with extra fuel to last till the final pdf. I'm so much overconfident that I'm just excited and not nervous for the results at all. So if I don't find my roll no in the list, I must quit thhe preparation since this was my best attempt and my potentially best attempt. So atleast there is a great carefree clarity to me.

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abc123said

what is your deep down feeling people ? will u b clearing this stage ? i mean we all know how we did 

I'm 101 percent sure to clear mains with extra fuel to last till the final pdf. I'm so much overconfident that I'm just excited and not nervous for the results at all. So if I don't find my roll no in the list, I must quit thhe preparation since this was my best attempt and my potentially best attempt. So atleast there is a great carefree clarity to me.

Post your roll no here. Unless your optional is a science / engineering/ literature subject of which you have absolute command, you will be living in fool's paradise, despite your "potentially best efforts".

It is better to live happily in a fool's paradise than to suffer in the storm of reality, because eventually all will die nevertheless.

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Feelings don’t matter in this exam 

what’s done is done 

as fas as I’m concerned, result aye na aye, zindagi kafi aage bhad chuki hai . Upsc pe kabhi nirbhar nai thi

baki hard work pe chalke luck success se thode samay tak vanchit kar sakta h sara time nai 

success can be delayed not denied 

In UPSC, success can be denied too even if you put all your efforts. There are enough proofs for it . You can say that they have achieved success in other fields. But it's meaningless to compare that success with UPSC preparation years.

not just in upsc cse but in every competitive exam, success is more plausibly determined by number of vacancies than excellence of merit.   

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This winter evokes deja vu in me. In 2019,first time I waited anxiously for upsc results, which were declared around 12 AM on Dec 20. On seeing my roll no in the shortlist, I went wild. In went on a long ride on my bicycle, lost in ecstatic reverie. 

winters are my favourite. when i was a kid i used to wander in my entire village during deepawali days and watch rangolis and rate them doing all this on my bicycle. at times i wonder how pre internet times were unnaturally beautiful and joyous. I don't remember missing internet to lead a fulfilling life back then. I'm thoroughly convinced than internet has enslaved the human essence.

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History optional walo ki halat after hearing scaling issue in Mains 2022 result revision news on telegram due to low representation.

There is no representation of subjects in CSE parliament. The equi-percentile statistical moderation adopted by upsc is blind and impersonal. After paper evaluation is over, no manual interference is allowed.

Bhai I don't  know much about evaluation process( scaling).

Telegram par bol Rahe Hai ki maths ka result bahut Acha Hai aur history ka bahut bura. Aur revision ho raha hai.

Are you from maths optional?( if yes Mubarak ho)

Do you know the procedure of scaling?

What is equi percentile statistical moderation adopted.( in simple language).





How can anyone know about this when nobody can even predict the final result date? 

rumours failane ke maamle me indian aunties to yun hi badnam he, yaha forum pe ek se ek ambassadors of fake news mil jaenge apko

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Ek aur afwah telegram se 



freedom of expression ka itna gross misuse dekhne ke baad mujhe sedition jaise law ki relevance samajh aai. 

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Hi seniors, I know this is not the right time to ask this Q but I need your help
I have flunked my 2 prelims bcz of CSAT but i did prepare for mains in my both attempts
Thing is I am Unable to complete my paper in most cases
i have done good amount of ans writing but yet to finish papers(Including socio opt)
so what's the mantra to finish paper with right quality of answers
should we aspire for a ideal preparation where we mostly focus on quality in Test series
but in actual exam this is not the case as I have known from ur shared experience
So plz give some insights how to balance and be feel content with mains preparation

are maharaaj paper finish karne ki chinta mat karo. exam hall me tumhara paper finish ho kar raheg kyuki your mind is on fire. wo fire mock test me nahi lagti, aag esi lagai maza a gaya wali fire. aur csat ke karan bahar hona wo bhi 2 bar is concerning. thoda us par dhyan do, English comprehension ka advantage uthao hena kyuki aajkal maths tough a raha he. baki paper to finish ho jaega...

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Ab direct 2 ka mahaul ban raha hai 

Par dil chahta hai ki aaj aa jaye 

mera ssc cgl tier 1 ho jane do phir bulwa dena result

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How many above average answers one must write out of 20Qs to get decent(above 100) marks in GS?

Bhai ye kaisa sawal he, manlo koi 12 bole aur apko 16 above average aate he to kya aap jan bujh kar 12 hi likhoge aur baki 4 kharab  likhoge? Bhai sare 20 top quality likhne ki koshish karo aur baki bhagwan bharose chhod do. nishkama karma par focus karo.

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good old memes... (credit :- UPSC MEME & More)

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ek crore bachon ka optional anthro h kya is bar ? jisse poocho sab anthro

humse puchh ke dekha hota...

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@masteroptimist aap top karenge guruji jo bhi optional raha ho aapka


tere kehne se kya hota he

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Kaptaan's info :


1. Re-scaling of optionals happening for the 3rd time. Change in evaluation board hence the chaos and change in information everyday. Some optionals like Geo will be scaled tomorrow.

2. Re-scaling not good for Maths, PSIR, Medical Science and Anthro people

3. Date of results not yet confirmed.


P.S. Just posting what was posted on the TG group.



This will just create Panic among students from the following optional. Kya chakbodi chalti rehti hai.

Mera bhi PSIR hai, jeene hi nahin dete yeh insider log

ek baar samjhao, scaling se psir ka average score ye log gira denge kya? matlab jo scores he ham psir walo ke wo kuch kam ho jaaengge? 

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insiders samajh le ke wo koi samaj seva nhi kar rahe he  ye bakchodi karke, uske viprit samaj ki peace of mind ki aesi tesi kar rahe he, ishwar iske liye unke karmo ki "Scaling" kare esi asha karta hu
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@Darvey78  bhai tumse request kar raha hu esi baatein mat share kiya karo, tumhare karan log pareshan hote he yaha pr esi depressing news sun ke. logo ko khush rehne do chahe unke fool's paradise me hi sahi, tum bhi khush raho, harsh realities to results me dekh hi lenge. results ke liye to insiders ke contacts nahi chahiye honge na?

baki sab thik he tumhari freedom of expression and all that bs, lekin insaniyat ki khatir request he apko esi ulti sidhi cheezen (bhale hi sahi ho) yaha share karke khud ko aur doosro ko kyu pareshan karna ,assuming that you aren't sadist, otherwise to kya hi kar skte he. aage tumhari marzi bhai

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@Darvey78  bhai tumse request kar raha hu esi baatein mat share kiya karo, tumhare karan log pareshan hote he yaha pr esi depressing news sun ke. logo ko khush rehne do chahe unke fool's paradise me hi sahi, tum bhi khush raho, harsh realities to results me dekh hi lenge. results ke liye to insiders ke contacts nahi chahiye honge na?

baki sab thik he tumhari freedom of expression and all that bs, lekin insaniyat ki khatir request he apko esi ulti sidhi cheezen (bhale hi sahi ho) yaha share karke khud ko aur doosro ko kyu pareshan karna ,assuming that you aren't sadist, otherwise to kya hi kar skte he. aage tumhari marzi bhai

Nahi hoon sadist yaar , khud ki anxiety se band baji hui hai 

Won't share all this from now on.

good

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psir walo se itni nafrat h to ek kam karo ham logo ke essay aur gs papers me bhi scaling kardo aur qualifying languages ke minimum qualifying marks 300 (100%) kardo 🙏🙏🙏
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psir walo se itni nafrat h to ek kam karo ham logo ke essay aur gs papers me bhi scaling kardo aur qualifying languages ke minimum qualifying marks 300 (100%) kardo 🙏🙏🙏

Hahaha.
Ab kya hua bhai PSIR se related ?


bhai already kam hua he kya

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psir walo se itni nafrat h to ek kam karo ham logo ke essay aur gs papers me bhi scaling kardo aur qualifying languages ke minimum qualifying marks 300 (100%) kardo 🙏🙏🙏

Hahaha.
Ab kya hua bhai PSIR se related ?


bhai already kam hua he kya

Bhai psir pehle hi achha kiya hai (going by Daya insider), aur wo marks initial scaling ke baad ki thi, because Daya was saying those marks were of the people in the list.

So, ab aisa toh nahi hai ki naya scaling lga ke waqt badal denge, jazbaat badal denge. 

Laal phool, neela phool

psir hai beautiful. XD

psir se achcha he zoology ya Assamese literature le leta, kam se kam raat ko nind to achche se ati

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@fakirgyan ha boss akku is my best friend in forum


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 बता ऐ अब्र मुसावात क्यूँ नहीं करता 

हमारे गाँव में बरसात क्यूँ नहीं करता 

(तहज़ीब हाफ़ी), after taking psir optional😂😂😂


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Ruchira Kamboj ma'am toh full on bhakt mode me aa gyi hain.

Inko quote bhi kiya tha. :neutral_face: 

jab leadership strong ho to officials and ambassadors bhi fearlessly apna point rakh pate he, bina ye soche ki "West Kya Kahenge" 

Aur isko bhakt mode me ana nahi kehte, apni baat ko saaf saaf rakhna kehte he 

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Ruchira Kamboj ma'am toh full on bhakt mode me aa gyi hain.

Inko quote bhi kiya tha. :neutral_face: 

jab leadership strong ho to officials and ambassadors bhi fearlessly apna point rakh pate he, bina ye soche ki "West Kya Kahenge" 

Aur isko bhakt mode me ana nahi kehte, apni baat ko saaf saaf rakhna kehte he 

If you think that talking tough alone, without having the requisite determinants of power [hard or soft] to match that talk, is gonna do wonders for the country, then good for you.


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Ruchira Kamboj ma'am toh full on bhakt mode me aa gyi hain.

Inko quote bhi kiya tha. :neutral_face: 

jab leadership strong ho to officials and ambassadors bhi fearlessly apna point rakh pate he, bina ye soche ki "West Kya Kahenge" 

Aur isko bhakt mode me ana nahi kehte, apni baat ko saaf saaf rakhna kehte he 

If you think that talking tough alone, witho