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Socio psir anthro inme 20 marker acha likhne pe normally kitne milte? General idea definitely noone can perfectly predict as marks vary across yrs

Perhaps 60 percent. And 65 percent if the answer is exceptional. Speaking from my experience with Law Optional.

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Hello everyone! How was mains this time? I remember having discussions on Quest portal after 2019 Mains. Activity here this year is pretty low, have people moved to other platforms? 

Anyways, I found GS 1 toughest out of all papers. GS 2 was good though I think my Law Optional background helped me in several questions (the same would be the case for Geo Optional students in GS-1, so i guess such advantages get evened out). GS-3 was more straightforward than previous years and I hope checking is in consonance with the level of questions.

For GS 4, I wonder if commission considers students as stakeholders while setting such a paper. While giving lengthy case studies may be justified, if you give five subparts (no creativity whatsoever from Commission in the way they set the paper) to each case study, all the gyaan about creativity/innovation/making answer distinct goes out of the window and one is just concerned about completing the paper. 

My personal opinion. What do you guys think?


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@JoMarch2021 my experience may be dated as I last appeared in 2019. 2017 and 2018 were golden years for law optional (in general optionals were high scoring in those two years). The horror show was in 2016 where even NLU gold medallists were reduced to double digit marks in law paper 1. Just pray it is marked like 2018 and not 2016/19. 


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Old forum vibes are back. Jokes apart, while people can have different opinions, I think there needs to be some reasonableness on the part of UPSC. Perhaps they should have a trial run where the paper setters solve the question paper in timed conditions. They'd atleast get some idea whether the paper actually tests what they intended to test in the first place or is it losing some of its efficacy. :P

No ad hominem attacks please. :)
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The organisers of oylmpics should be first tested in various sports to see if they could compete. organisers of world chess championship should be first made to compete against carslen to see if they could win under timed conditions. that should be the parameter to see if they could organise the tournament or not. 

We get it dude that you don't agree. No need to be so salty about it. Take it easy. :)

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Backstage by Montek Singh Ahluwalia is pretty good too. For people with an orientation towards Constitution and Polity, Gautam Bhatia's Transformative Constitution is a fascinating read.
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So there are two sides to it. The usual narrative is that entire answer copy is checked by one examiner. Hence, the notion that you need to do initial few questions well to gain examiner's trust.

The second view is that each copy goes to multiple examiners based on their subject expertise. So GS-2 polity questions to one examiner, IR questions to another and so on.

Anecdotal evidence suggested that the second view is more likely. Even RAS copies now are checked like that (that I can assure with some certainty). And it makes sense right, you cannot find faculty that is expert in all subjects comprising a GS paper.

So if second view is more plausible, then this dilutes the entire theory of writing great answers initially to win examiner's trust. I don't know why it's still in vogue. Though it can be of some use in ethics paper where it is more likely that the entire paper is checked by one examiner.

Maybe others can chip in with what they have heard in this regard. 


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@Kenshein dayumn! I just checked the full quote and it is about change and impermanence. Kaafi atrangi topic aur quote tha. 


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@Kenshein I don't think you should worry if you have justified what you have written. 


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@RegistaniOonth very well put. what you said makes sense and you have had first hand experience as well. In the end we can only hope and pray that our essays get checked with the intention and lens we wrote it with. :)


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Formulaic approach can backfire in essay at times. In 2018 my score dropped from 139 to 108 even though I thought I wrote pretty relevant content.

First essay was on poverty and prosperity and second on customary morality. Started both with anecdotes (slumdog millionaire in first and navtej johar in second) and tried to tie them in the conclusion. 

Aaj tak samajh nahi aaya ki anecdote ki khunnas thi ya quotes wagarah se chidh gaya examiner. But at the end of the day, you can't be too harsh on yourself. Just try and make the essay as natural and flowing as possible and leave rest to the powers that be.


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Mujhe toh Rubber wala bhi tough hi laga. 15 marks ka content toh nahi hi tha mere paas in that question.
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@Philooptional Apart from relevant articles, I mentioned cases like MC Mehta (Sriram oleum gas leak), Vellore citizen welfare forum, MC Mehta (vehicular pollution) and Godavarman case. Just mentioned the ratio of each one.

Take it with a pinch of salt though as I knew these cases because of my optional. So it was a tough question especially because they were specifically asking for case law. 


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@GaneshGaitonde sorry for the naive doubt but didn't Shubham Kumar have anthro, iirc?
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@GaneshGaitonde oh that way. Makes sense especially for popular optionals like geo, history, psir etc


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@MC Cullum aisa suna hai ki 2012 mein legendary scaling hui thi jahan logon ke 250 mein se 29 tak aaye the. Usi ke baad se pub ad ka patan shuru hua tha. 


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@Kenshein where's it coming from? any concrete source?


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@Nanotech  That was 2016, iirc. Shashi Tharoor and some others made a representation to UPSC that essays be evaluated considering both meanings. Dunno if it was followed by upsc while awarding marks. But what I do remember was that the representation was made almost immediately after the exam - within a few days. 


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@rockhard bhai itna idea nahi hai. Maine uss topic pe essay nahi likha tha. 


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How many of you believe in the argument that UPSC deliberately keeps the exams lengthy to ensure that candidates are forced to write from their subconscious and what they have internalised. Or is it one of the narratives peddled by UPSC apologists to justify anything and everything that the holy cow does.
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@Kenshein ye 2008-10 waali baat toh divyakirti ji ke mukh se suni hai maine


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The insider info on that group was usually accurate. 
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@Capedcrusader1 is the group functional now? 


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Faculty in Vision Mains analysis said that Hindi translation indicates it is a History+Post Independence question. 
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@musk bhai kaunsa group hai ye, is it open?


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@Stormtroper mujhe lagta tha ki normalisation, scaling etc mein thoda time lagta hoga post answer checking. That's why probably they take the time they usually take. 


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Is the interview session conducted yesterday by Neyawn available in online mode?
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@arjunas it's no longer available. They've made it private


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