The following is a question-by-question analysis of the Paper. Irrespective of what coaching institutes are saying, I found it extremely tough in the exam hall conditions.
Paper 1
Q1a Easy. A standard question but maybe people would have fumbled in the extension of basis part.
Q1b Easy. A standard question but still such questions were asked in the non compulsory section for 15 marks. You have to deduce the transformation and then get to the range and null space. So a bit lengthy for 2 pages.
Q1c Easy but you had to completely address the full question. The question was not only about testing continuity at x=0. It was about testing continuity for all values of x.
Q1d Questions on Taylor series are extremely easy if you know the formula. But such type of questions were never asked in Paper 1. Even for Paper 2, Taylor series questions were never asked for estimation of values. This question talks about changing the centre and calculating the value for ln(x). Again, chances of mistakes are there.
Q1e Easy question but lengthy for 10M. If you don't know the standard method, you won't get it. Plus questions on cylinders have been rare. So the basic takeaway is: You can't afford to ignore topics.
Q2a Asked in 3b IFoS 2023, 2a 2009. This question hinged on only one concept that you have to prove kerT = (0,0,0). If you know that, 15M are for you.
Q2b A very easy and straightforward question. But again it is from a topic from which only 10 questions have been asked from CSE 1992 and IFoS 2000 onwards. It is an indirect repeat from CSE 4c(ii) 2019.
2c The most controversial question for now. People have been filing representation on it but I believe the answer given in PN Chatterjee and the solution given by IMS will prevail. I will rate this question as difficult in the exam hall as many people misunderstood the demand of the question and this was a new type which was never asked in CSE or IFoS before (as far as I know)
Q3
3a Difficult as you need to know the concept precisely to get this question right. There's a chance of error in every step.
3b A standard question.
3c A standard question if you knew the concept.
Q4
4a Standard question and easy if you know the concept. Again, it was not asked in this manner before. Getting all the Eigen vectors correct is a tricky part. So I would say easy but lengthy.
4b CSE doesn't venture into this domain of polar coordinates. So if you did not know the graph of a cardioid or made silly mistakes in calculating the area, 15M down the drain.
4c Question from 4b IFoS 2008. Again a fringe area but still it was easy if you know the concept. Without knowing the concept, deriving it in the exam hall was difficult.
Overall Section A was doable to a certain extent but certain standard questions were missing this time around. The usual question of RREF, inverses and Cayley Hamilton Theorem were ignored this year. I would rate this section as Easy to Moderate.
But then came Section B:
5a CSE doesn't ask orthogonal trajectories in polar coordinates generally. They used to stick to cartesian coordinates. So a major takeaway here is to practice IFoS questions as well. A similar question had appeared in Abhyaas. I would rate it easy.
5b Not for 10 M, solution was a bit long and mistake prone. Laplace has been a fringe area and it was not a popular topic until last year.
5c Fully formula based. I don't think I have seen such a question before. But again rate of change was asked and the question for the part involves cross product of alpha and gamma. So people may mistakenly calculate the cross product of alpha and beta too (under exam pressure). Second part involved rate of change of vector triple product. Both the parts were lengthy and mistake prone. Extremely tough.
5d Easy but you need to remember the formula.
5e (i) Formula based. If you know the formula then easy if you don't then difficult. Also it was quite lengthy for 5M
5e(ii) Asked in 8c(i) IFoS 2021: Relatively tough and not suitable for 5M
Q6a Virtual work in 3D? A very new type of question.
Q6b Similar type of questions were asked in IFoS. If you don't know the type, this question was difficult.
Q6c(i) A non standard question. Lengthy and mistake prone (due to the minus sign). I would rate it tough.
(ii) Repeat from CSE 7a 2019
Q7a Never heard the concept in context of ODE. I had read this topic in the context of Complex Analysis.
Q7b Easy question.
Q7c Looks easy but it is lengthy because of the state and verify part
Q8a I think Electrical Engineers knew this function as it is part of their course but for Maths optional people, we have not studied it as part of our standard syllabus.
Q8b Easy question
Q8c A similar concept was asked in 5d IFoS 2023. Still I would rate it tough.
Overall view: Extremely tough because of Section B as compared to previous years.
Paper 2:
1a Concept based. If you knew the concept then it was straightforward.
1b Similar concept asked in IFoS 2005 and 2006 but lengthy for 10M
1c Easy concept but again you had to divide the integral into 2 parts and then examine the convergence.
1d Easy but you have to be careful
1e 2 phase is a bit tricky if one doesn't remember the standard algorithm
Q2a Fringe area and it was a bit tricky. But for those who knew e^x expansion, it was easier to get a direction for this question.
2b Basic question but for those who ignore Modern Algebra, it is 15M down the drain.
2c Concept from CSE 1997.
Q3a On the surface, this question seemed easy but when you dig deeper, it will reveal its complexity. It was partially doable still. Only 8 questions of such type have been asked till now.
3b Difficult portion of Real Analysis. Generally, UPSC has stuck to the basic questions for Paper 2 but this question is not that basic.
3c Easy.
4a Tough question imo even if you have studied Ring Theory.
4b Asked in 1b IFoS 2014 and CSE 1992. I would still rate it as difficult if someone doesn't know the concept of Dirichlet functions
4c A tricky question. Looked easy on the surface.
Section B
5a Very easy question if you know how the concept works
5b Mistake prone because of the small difference between Gauss Jordan vs Gauss elimination
5c(i) Those who missed the sign magnitude part, it is 5M gone.
5c(ii) Easy
5d Easy only if you know the concept. If someone ignored Mechanics then there's no chance of getting this right.
5e A basic question. If someone ignored Fluid dynamics then 10 marks gone straightaway. There's a chance for plus minus error.
6a Extremely difficult. It can be done partially. It is a non standard question as they used to ask from Wave and Heat equations generally.
6b I would call it easy.
6c A new type of question and mistake prone as quadrant of an ellipse is being asked. So you have to first calculate the MoI about x axis then the y axis and then use the perpendicular axis theorem to get to the answer. But since the density varies, it was difficult.
7a Moderate because of z and φ confusion else it was relatively easy.
7b(i) A simple question but they do not generally ask about Simpson's 3/8th. People can make mistakes in taking multipliers as Simpson's 1/3rd and 3/8th are closely related.
7b(ii) A simple question. But both these questions have been rarely asked before.
So recall was less. Error prone.
7c Asked in 7a IFoS 2012 and IFoS 2002
8a A tricky question because of the z and φ change.
8b Easy question
8c A tricky question. Getting it write in the exam hall conditions was a big challenge.
Overall, Paper 2 was also difficult. But for those who ignored the basic parts of tough topics, it was extremely difficult.
Finally, both the papers were extremely difficult given the standard pattern of questions asked in PYQs and given the exam environment with the fatigue of GS papers (which were somewhat tough too).
Overall, still there will be people who will get good marks in Maths opt despite the extremely tough paper. Marking scheme and the way UPSC evaluates these papers is a black box, you do not know exactly what would fetch you marks. There's no official say on the scaling factor (we assume it to be 0.7 and 0.8) but given the present circumstances, I find myself not competent enough to comment on it.
For prep, I would say Mathocrat (Shivraj sir) is extremely good for Maths Opt. But balancing his level of content and GS is extremely difficult.
Only my opinions, not to offend anyone.
1) question on image - equap chances of reflection. Mathocrat and other maths coaching teachers think its reflection. Also a basic question like projection seems unlikely for 20 marks.
2) q 8a in paper 2 is not conventional. No solved question of that type is given as the problem was already in canonical form.
3) 8c paper 2 - no way one can do it in exam hall if similar type is not done in home.
Only my opinions, not to offend anyone.
1) question on image - equap chances of reflection. Mathocrat and other maths coaching teachers think its reflection. Also a basic question like projection seems unlikely for 20 marks.
2) q 8a in paper 2 is not conventional. No solved question of that type is given as the problem was already in canonical form.
3) 8c paper 2 - no way one can do it in exam hall if similar type is not done in home.
True. I did not choose Q8 in my paper so solving in the exam hall is a different thing and solving it at home is a different thing so I trust your judgement.
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My experience -
In P1, chose 1, 2,3,5,6
The p1 sec b was designed such a way you have to face 1 bouncer question of 15 marker.
So went with q6, as I thought will try to solve virtual work if time permits.
So , in last 5 min tried to do something, agr time hota aur 5 min ,could have solved (15 marker)
Q5e (ii) two principal normals - no idea
Rest I find it doable , so good attempt over 220+ , if image plane wala question we take like what mathocrat has solved .
Paper 2
I saw first question, relieved , then I saw q2, q3 and I shivered my deepest corner of my soul and I panicked , how i am going to attempt the exam.
Then thought to solve q5 compulsory, solved all 5 ( due to misreading - 5e went wrong, I started to find stream function 😭) and a silly mistake in one of binary
Then was relieved with Q7 and Q8
Q7a PDE , was unable to make c1 and c2 in one equation, so wrote separately both conditions
Q7 (c) , could not find pressure of velocity flow - bhut gnda calculation
Q8(a)- I had no clue how to solve it , as it was not reducible to canonical
8b and 8c were easy
Then went to q4 , all 3 were doable , surprised with space given in Reimann integral and Assignment problem( very less)
So , around 200-205 correct in P2 , could have been 220-225 .
My experience -
In P1, chose 1, 2,3,5,6
The p1 sec b was designed such a way you have to face 1 bouncer question of 15 marker.
So went with q6, as I thought will try to solve virtual work if time permits.
So , in last 5 min tried to do something, agr time hota aur 5 min ,could have solved (15 marker)
Q5e (ii) two principal normals - no idea
Rest I find it doable , so good attempt over 220+ , if image plane wala question we take like what mathocrat has solved .
Paper 2
I saw first question, relieved , then I saw q2, q3 and I shivered my deepest corner of my soul and I panicked , how i am going to attempt the exam.
Then thought to solve q5 compulsory, solved all 5 ( due to misreading - 5e went wrong, I started to find stream function 😭) and a silly mistake in one of binary
Then was relieved with Q7 and Q8
Q7a PDE , was unable to make c1 and c2 in one equation, so wrote separately both conditions
Q7 (c) , could not find pressure of velocity flow - bhut gnda calculation
Q8(a)- I had no clue how to solve it , as it was not reducible to canonical
8b and 8c were easy
Then went to q4 , all 3 were doable , surprised with space given in Reimann integral and Assignment problem( very less)
So , around 200-205 correct in P2 , could have been 220-225 .
200 to 205 in P2 is a really good attempt!
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Problem is even after scoring this much there is chance , one may not be selected. Gs+essay me 510-15 lane honge and I don't see that happening with me with math
@tedmosby yes a decent attempt, but there was scope to do better , choice could have been better even for me and a few silly mistakes could have been avoided and score could have crossed 305 and even 310-315.Problem is even after scoring this much there is chance , one may not be selected. Gs+essay me 510-15 lane honge and I don't see that happening with me with math
Please don't assume anything bhai. The performance is relative in optional and GS. 200+ in P2 alone is extremely good this year. I know many coaching institutes (and the aspirant community) are promoting the idea that the scaling factor is 0.7 and 0.8 for Paper 1 and Paper 2 respectively but there's no basis to such claims. Your total score in Mathematics could be more than 320 (But that depends on performance of other optional subjects as well).
There was a time when Anubhav Singh scored 375 and Kanishak sir scored 361 in Maths opt. There used to be a time in Maths when "toppers" used to "leave" tough areas and secure nearly 270 or 280. But now UPSC has tried creating a level field among all the optional paper so that no optional has a distinct advantage (that's what I could 'infer' from marksheets of 2022 and 2023 which could be wrong).
So I know many people who have scored 270+ in Maths but couldn't clear Mains as they couldn't cross 400 in GS+Essay (Yes, the competition is that tough in this area). Balancing between both the areas is extremely difficult. And yes, some of them have completed all their papers. Even I used to complete all my papers and the max I could reach was 481 in 2022 but that came at a huge cost of loss of marks in optional.
And bhai, you will always have that hindsight bias about how things could have been better. How silly mistakes could have been avoided but take it from me, perfect attempt kuch nahi hota. Silly mistakes humesha honge hi, we can just minimize it.
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I couldn't find pressure distribution in fluid question either in the exam hall. Post exam, some people recommended Bernoulli's equation instead of Euler's equation would have been much shorter to calculate.
Your paper 2 attempt is really good btw. I could barely attempt 215 marks, for me 205 correct is off the charts (made some calculation mistakes in residue finding question in complex, others not reviewed yet).
@Animesh_Maths Yes correct, one of my friend did that using bernaulli , he chose 1,3,4,5,7 and did great job .
I also attempted 220 , I had no idea about canonical and just left at euler equation. Rest I think there was not a lot of scope in error in questions which I chose 1,4,5,7,8.
Personally I feel P2 220 was doable , some people I know who did it. Even in my scenario, I misread Q5e otherwise 215+ correct was possible.
This was my first attempt and have not got marks in maths so I am not eligible to speak about whether maths is good optional or not. But till now intrinsic voice is positive about it .
@tedmosby bhai , I agree with your every statement. I have the same fear , even after too much optimistic hypothesis, I get 300 in math there are. Equal chances not to be clearing Even mains ( I saw 2 marksheets like this of 2023). GS4 and Essay I fear the most .
@Animesh_Maths Yes correct, one of my friend did that using bernaulli , he chose 1,3,4,5,7 and did great job .
I also attempted 220 , I had no idea about canonical and just left at euler equation. Rest I think there was not a lot of scope in error in questions which I chose 1,4,5,7,8.
Personally I feel P2 220 was doable , some people I know who did it. Even in my scenario, I misread Q5e otherwise 215+ correct was possible.
This was my first attempt and have not got marks in maths so I am not eligible to speak about whether maths is good optional or not. But till now intrinsic voice is positive about it .
@tedmosby bhai , I agree with your every statement. I have the same fear , even after too much optimistic hypothesis, I get 300 in math there are. Equal chances not to be clearing Even mains ( I saw 2 marksheets like this of 2023). GS4 and Essay I fear the most .
Don't assume anything bas mai toh itna hi bolunga.
The best and the worst feature of maths is it's objectivity. Surprising results hote hai humesha. But yes, if you have done mocks+PYQs then you have a decent chance of clearing it.
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@tedmosby Really, after spending many years with maths optional, I doubt whether it is even a good optional to take. I would have chosen something else if I had to start all over again. I did an okay job with maths this year, but GS was a complete disaster as maths gobbled all the time. Have to prepare GS2, GS3 from scratch this year.
Before giving the 2024 attempt, I was really really confident. I thought Maths opt would be my ticket to top 70. But then I just witnessed the randomness of maths questions in 2024. I was just speechless! Thankfully, I had strategized well across all areas and I stuck to it in the face of adversity, even for GS. Baaki toh no one can guarantee anything. Maths opt's RoI has decreased substantially anyways. People with Humanities opt have a lot of edge in GS w.r.t keywords and value addition. Personally, I feel PSIR, Anthro, Socio and Philosophy are good optional subjects.
I think@JaiBabaKi has done a splendid job in Maths opt. 200+ correct in P2 is just too good. 300+ toh aa hi jayenge bhai aaram se. GS1,2,3 ko bhulna matt bhai. Vo sab set ho jaye toh aap chakravyuh bhed doge. Varna the Pre-Mains cycle continues.
For CSE Maths 2024 analysis: https://forumias.com/post/detail/Mathematics-Optional-2024-Paper-Analysis-1727851791