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@kohliwag Rightly said... since everyone following Wikipedia.... where they paste line " The Nizamat of Carnatic (Arcot) was a dependency of Hyderabad Deccan and was under the legal purview of the Nizam of Hyderabad, until its demise. Later it emerged out of Hyderabad"


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I consider 9 Q as doubtful and considered wrong during my score calculation (Then after my score around ~92)

1. State Defn (I marked B)

2. Parliamentary democracy based on the British model (Marked A)

3. Discretionary power in the matter of application of law violates (Marked Art 32)

4. All casual workers are entitled for Employees Provident Fund Coverage (Marked B)

5. Copper smelting plants (Marked D)

6. Magnetite particles (Marked D)

7. Montagu-Chelmsford Reforms of 1919 (Marked D)

8. Nizamat of Arcot (Marked B)

9. Pressure cooker (Marked C)

How many can be correct out of 9.... Please help me out 

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@kohliwag Thanks Brother for response ... 


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@mounikamouni24_h944 Satluj... Should i considered it doubtful... ? 


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@HeNeArKr Sorry Brother... Chenab ka to mil sakta hai... Jhelum ka muskil hai... except haider Movie .... 


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Please look into this...  any kind of help is much appreciated bhai.... since many coachings are giving different answers..... 

I consider 9 Q as doubtful and considered wrong during my score calculation (Then after my score around ~92)

1. State Defn (I marked B)

2. Parliamentary democracy based on the British model (Marked A)

3. Discretionary power in the matter of application of law violates (Marked Art 32)

4. All casual workers are entitled for Employees Provident Fund Coverage (Marked B)

5. Copper smelting plants (Marked D)

6. Magnetite particles (Marked D)

7. Montagu-Chelmsford Reforms of 1919 (Marked D)

8. Nizamat of Arcot (Marked B)

9. Pressure cooker (Marked C)

How many can be correct out of 9.... Please help me out 


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@kohliwag I also think same

The Nawabs of the Carnatic are Rowthers.[3] The Nawab of the Carnatic (Arcot) was established by the Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb, who in 1692 appointed Zulfikhar Ali Khan as the first Nawab of the Carnatic, with his seat at Arcot as a reward for his victory over the Marathas led by Rajaram


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnatic_Sultanate

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@mounikamouni24_h944 look here --- explanation by Sabbir Sir
see from 5:10

may be this help


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@mounikamouni24_h944 So it is difficult to say....  that "The Nizamat of Arcot emerged out of Hyderabad State" --- since it is existing even before Hyderabad (1724)

Rest UPSC will decide... 


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@indian1234 Thanks Brother... 


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Right to city question -- not attempted --- so dont Know

Mitocandria question -- not attempted --- so dont Know


Synthetic culture -  marked A

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@mounikamouni24_h944 Really dont know.... may be approx 90 (Gen)


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  • During its (Satluj) onward journey it receives the collective drainage of the Ravi, Chenab and Jhelum rivers. It joins the Indus a few kilometres above Mithankot.


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what about this Sir....

The Nawabs of the Carnatic are Rowthers.[3] The Nawab of the Carnatic (Arcot) was established by the Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb, who in 1692 appointed Zulfikhar Ali Khan as the first Nawab of the Carnatic, with his seat at Arcot as a reward for his victory over the Marathas led by Rajaram

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnatic_Sultanate


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@assistant Sir... emerged out sound that .... Nizamat of Arcot 1st time established from Hyd state... and earlier not exists... (but it is not the case)

Yes u are correct in the sense that Nizamat of Arcot became independent from Nizam of Hyd... but emerged out does not  seem appropiate to me (since emerged out seems like born of Arcot 1st time)



Uday Hua... it seems exaggerated..  but yes Swantanra Hua... seems good 

Rest UPSC will decide

Thanks for reply


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Sir.. plz have a look

A state is an organized political community acting under a government. States differ in sovereignty, governance, geography, and interests.

States may be classified as sovereign if they are not dependent on, or subject to, any other power or state. Other states are subject to external sovereignty or hegemony where ultimate sovereignty lies in another state


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@Denisovan2019 I also marked it wrong.... But Option B is also probable candidate... 


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@Capedcrusader1 Thanks Sir


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@kohliwag Yes...clearly ingrained in statement B


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@kohliwag Apolitically organized people of a definite territory and possessing an authority to govern themmaintain law and order, protect their natural rights and safeguard their means of sustenance

all ingredient of state here ... 

maintain law and order, protect their natural rights and safeguard their means of sustenance === concept of sovereignty clearly ingrained here

Option B is a possibility 


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@SacredGames Ummid Rakhni Chahiye.... if even 2 correct then... U in


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@Aurang_mirasudar Thanks brother


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@AdmgenalanezhEPFO (most probably 2 and 3) and the Cooker one (most probably 1 and 3) -- can be considered right


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@srivalliguru9401 and 3 for cooker --- u can consider it right...


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@atuljiI think sir, UPSC has picked the Q from some PYQ banks... and not frame the Q by itself... so image share by@Aurang_mirasudar... reveal the answer.... which is 1&3

rest UPSC better janti hai


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@atuljiThey only choose 3 options out of 4.... Their hard work is visible here by not copy and paste all the options (This is only hard work they did) --- Sad


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@Denisovan2019ha ha... dono same hi hai...


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@ShubzRIGHTLY SAID BROTHER.... :)


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@mortyDear Brother...
indus tributary (chenab), right to city (1 and 2), artificial culture (all three) -- Chances high that all are wrong

mitochondrial disease (both correct) -- Chances highthat it is wrong

british parliamentary model (both correct), magnetite particles (all of the above) -- Chances high are correct

But this is my View... may differ from UPSC keys..

Thanks

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is separate electrode same as reservation? Just asking 

"The Government of India Act of 1935 extended the principal of communal representation by providing separate electorates for depressed classes (scheduled castes),womenand labour (workers). Indian Councils Act, 1909 also introduced the system of separate electorates for Muslims"


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@BhallaRobert Yes... Sir.. I have seen the image... it is written ....then what about theseparate electrodeas mentioned in the act itself... it confused me... 


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@toooldtodieyoung Sir, may be u are correct... but some events create confusion -- - like in communal award... separate electrode were offered for Dalit (not reservation)... but later after POONA pact .... seats were reserved for them in legislator by eliminating separate electrode... if reservation was implicit then what was the need of reserved seat later in POONA Pact....



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@necromancer Right... but reserved ?


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@MarcusA Thanks


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@AureliusM ha ha... No discussion 


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@Guesswhoshere +1... Accha source laye ho aap... 


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Snap from Khulllar book.... here it is written Satluj... 
please have look... 


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@AnshS Thanks Brother... ATB


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@MarcusA But in A -- No political word given... 



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@Admgenalanezh Sir... if u see... political word is also mention which is not in option A


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@Admgenalanezh maintain law and order, protect their natural rights and safeguard their means of sustenance === also indicates --- independent of external control orsovereignty 

I think so... option A&B both probable 


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@Strugglehard i also marked B considering constitutes units as state and union legislator as RS .... but Janta A ko jyada suitable bta rhi hai... 


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@kohliwagBrother... can we add 1. copper smelting as (d) and 2. magnetite as (d) in score as per UPSC PYQ trend and answer key? -- or still these are in doubtful stage


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@BhallaRobertsir.. high chances to get in


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@kohliwagha ha.. thanks


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@5HTEven small amount of Carbon monoxide is lethal --- Very True


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@Admgenalanezh Pour should means 'drains into' -- I think


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@Strugglehard see this


U will be happy


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@Strugglehard most probable... I also marked the same... let hope for the best


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3,4,6,8 may be right... My view (No debate) - high chances to get in


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3 to 4 may be right.. ... My view (No debate) - high chances to get in


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Ahmed Shah Abdali -- in India in 1748


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@srivalliguru940I think.. its not like that... examiner just want to check 2 thing... 1. time line of Ahmed shah abdali 2. time line of Rohilkhand...

same things he/she has done in other 2 statements (Arcot/Nizam) and (Vijayanagara/Mysore)... just timeline... nothing else... (i dont think... he/she played with language as we assume)

we are unnecessary complicated the simple thing..I think

baki UPSC ki Maya..


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@srivalliguru940we both :) ATB


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abstract from a political paper


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@oopsiebut with respect to India.. it is possible -- which is asked in Q (A and B both can be essential features but B seems more close)


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@javelinthrow sabhi 85-95 me hi latke hai... 


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Persistent anxiety regarding the prelims outcome drove me here again and again.. Guys please help..

This is not for show off... This is all truth from my side...

Scoring around ~ 86 (Gen) after considering all the below disputed Qs (as per my view)as wrong

1. Pressure cooker (I marked 1&3)

2. Hereditary (Marked C)

3. Indus (marked - Satluj)

4. All Casual (Marked 2&3)

5. Magnetite (Marked D)

6. Copper smelting (Marked D)

7. Arcot (Marked 2 only)

8. State (Marked B)

9. British Model (Marked A)

10. As per legislation (Marked Art 32)

11. Federalism (Marked B)

How many can be correct ? Please help (No debate from my side)

Thanks in advance...

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@rawhullbrother... Indus river source -- if any


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@BhallaRobertChenab or Satluj ? bda confusion hai... Khullar ko man sakte hai kya.. source


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@BhallaRobertthen Vision mark -- casual labour as d.. is it correct ?


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@Capedcrusader1vision gave very vague explanation of Indus river Q . just dropping the link... where nothing concrete about Chenab as ans


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@saurabher43267kisi ke pas chenab ka source hai kya... please share


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Satluj may be right? what u think?


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@rawhullbut Khullar (std book of Geo) say other wise?

and also link shared is fromHydrology and Water Resources Information System for India.. official


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@sleeplessnights89ye bhi doubtful hai kya?


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@sleeplessnights89may i know your stake ? ... No debate


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@Capedcrusader1yes.. statement alone should be correct (which is not)..then comparison will come into picture..


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@rawhullbut M Puri Sir said -- its a wrong statement


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@Capedcrusader1Preamble wala was wrong -  i think as per SR mam


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@Capedcrusader1bhai ... i am suppoting U... u misinterpret me


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@sleeplessnights89ur stake on Q?


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@rawhullPuri sir ka explanation dekha aapne.. regarding British model..


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@Capedcrusader1 CSAT more or less same as 2020--- but candidates were better prepared this time.. 


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@Capedcrusader1 is bar utna halla nhi hai...csat ka... jitna last time tha
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@rawhull Devi Lal drop hua to...cut off aur girega... kyuki max logo ko vo sahi hai... by elimination... 


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@Aurang_mirasudar what about Devi Lal? may be drop ? 


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KAPTAAN SAHAB

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@Aurang_mirasudar SAHI BAT... EXACT LINE LEE HAI UPSC VALO NE YHA SE
AAPKE SOURCES EXACT HOTE HAI... LAST TIME SEEN IN RC (CSAT).. 

INDUS KA KYA FINAL MANE? SATLUJ (FROM KHULLAR & BRITANNICA) OR CHENAB (INDUS WATER TREATY DOC AS SUGGESTED BY SOMEONE)


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@saurabher43267 cooker wala most probably 1,3 hoga... (But No Debate)


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@rawhull Ignore him... he is doing all this intentionally... Such a crap 


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@rawhull just got to know... thtswhy sharing... I know... its no use... Pardon 

I hope we both get the laugh... always


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see page 30... 

same is written here also... 

This is last from my side... regarding Satluj.. lets leave it to UPSC


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@rawhull "Every tributary of indus finally drains into indus thats common sense and nothing special here" --- normally the river which drain last -- are said to be like this "Finally Drained"... not all... since other will lose their existence after merging with other... I think like that


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@rawhull "Top of page 19 to get clearer idea" --- that point everybody know--- 

Finally drained can not be said --- for Ravi or Jhelum or Chenab ... (Even I never heard like that) --have u ever heard that Yamuna "Finally" drained into Bay of Bengal (it merged to Ganga not drained in BoB)

btw -- leave it to UPSC... Good night brother... 


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@Hawkeye1301 thats for Indian sector only...



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@WayneRooney but this year more doubtful Qs as compare to last year... yet not settled 

last year doubtful was 1. AI 2. Preamble 3. Deshar-katha 4. A person who eligible to vote can be made a minister in a state for six months -- as i recall 


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@kohliwag 
Vision se 92 (lowest in all keys) ban rhe hai... considering below wrong @ present
1. British Model - A
2. Indus - Satluj
3. Copper - D
4. State - B
5. Federalism - B
6. Casual - 2 and 3

right to city/Gopalaswamy etc - not attempted

I know its futile exercise.. but anxiety @ its peak..
chance hai kya? (Gen)


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@Capedcrusader1Thanks Bro... i know.. but anxiety bahut hai..


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@Dinzz888Yes.. I have seen comment.. hope.. both in


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@PeLhidungaConsumer protection act ki constitutionality check krne ke liye constitution bench (Min 5 Judge) bheja gya tha kya? I don't know

but bahut sare act ko nhi bhi bheja jata hai constitution bench (Min 5 Judge) me--- to ye statment ki -- act to bheja jata hai... galat nhi ho jata



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@Capedcrusader1confirmed galat hai na 2nd statement?


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@kohliwagmain to 2nd statement galat hone ke sath hu...


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@zombielandvery high convergence near cut off (Sab 85+ me khel rhe hai)


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@sleeplessnights89 Rank 1 disputed Q (UPSC bhi sochti hogi kya Q banaya... confuse hi kar dia)


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@Guesswhoshere at least u r @ peace... since marked Jhelum


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@sleeplessnights89 CSP 2021 ki bhi bta hi dijiye... lge hath
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@sleeplessnights89 Sahi hai phr to... 


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@kohliwagsame here last year... 89 87 82 but 104 (Ethics) :)


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@Capedcrusader1gandhi irwin to sayad cancel hua hoga last time... CDM ko NCM bana dia tha


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@Capedcrusader1Hindi me galat tha... isiliye cancel hua hoga


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@Capedcrusader1unfair for Hindi medium... yes (Hindi valo ne ho sakta representation file kiya ho)


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@Capedcrusader1yes it should be... aspirant ka kitna time, energy waste hota hai... they became most unproductive during time b/w exam and result.. (as seen in every prelims)
yadi state commission kar sakta hai... why not UPSC?


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@AdmgenalanezhThose scoring below 70 or in 70s are doing chill -pill... no fikr of result...


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Copper, casual ko bhi disputed me man sakte hai kya?


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@prachimalik1121311Sahi Proof diya aapne to.... casual ka phir kya man le?


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@kohliwagto casual ka b and copper ka d?


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@Capedcrusader1ha bhai... maine bhi abhi tak wrong me hi count kiya hai?


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@AnshS+1... kafi detail me banaya hai... kha ki hai ?


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@prachimalik1121311logically to correct hai... bas UPSC ne bhi logic use kia ho..


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@kohliwagI wonder...in SET D (from Q1 to Q20) -- there is  A option as ans in only for 2Q (Q1 - Dipolar and Q19 -Virus vala)... as per Vision, Insight or other famous keys... is it convincing?


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@kohliwaglast year ke trend se solve krne me bahut logo ka galat hua hai... mera bhi.. ye Q


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@Capedcrusader1khel khela hai is bar UPSC ne... sari prelims tricks ke sath... jo market me thi.... these tricks/methods/70 days rev plan/ etc are making aspirant's life difficult...


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@Rambo93but UPSC think otherwise...


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@Capedcrusader1Tabhi answer galat ho jate hai...  itni mehanat krne ke bad bhi... Kai bar to esa hota hai ki... omr me circle fill krne ke bad yad aata hai... are iska answer to d tha... lekin confusion me galat wala fill kar dia (this year happened with ICC Q) and last year happned with FDI Q...

 


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@toooldtodieyoungYes.. this year..  ambiguity is more as compare to last years... since @ least in 5-6 Q -- different so called famous institute are giving different answer...


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@NeganUPSC framed the 2 very close options in the Qs to prompt the candidates to attempt... which led to more wrong... and last  2-3 years tricks/elimination strategy (like all, only, not, S&T all etc) -- led to more wrong... thatswhy ppl roaming around 85+ (rarely i have seen above 100) -- while in 2020... many were there >100 (me too)


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@FulcrumEven aspirant like u..who continuously score >105 in last 3 years papers... are now stuck in 95+... then really.. it has effect on cutoff... last year my friend scored 120+ (given interview last year)-- stuck in ~85...



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@traveller25less than 80..


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@Negan it seems... they priorities the CSP 21 result .. may be declared in 1-2 day


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@Guesswhosherehave faith brother... 

how much u are scoring as per Vision?


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@GuesswhoshereU have decent chances... brother... Good Luck


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@Admgenalanezhha ha.. saw that..

but chances to aaj ke hi lag rhe hai... Thoda jyada


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@prachimalik1121311Gentleman/Ma'am here barring few.. :)


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@babu_bislerilast time bhi 6.30 PM around aaya tha


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matlab 7 bje tak aa jeega
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@sleeplessnights89sahi bat...aane vala hai


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@kohliwag @Capedcrusader 

IN,  with lowest from Vision Key ~92  (Gen)


Thanks everyone for wishes

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