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[ Official ] How was the Prelims 2021 paper?

The question is not about cooker but actually about closed and open system that you study in highschool science. 
The relationship of Pressure and temperature and volume is the key to define of it. 
Cooker act as a vessel of closed system so design of cooker doesn't matter. 
T is supplied by flame.
V is the inner space inside cooker. 
P is normal pressure.

When You Increase T by heating ... P rises as Volume is constant. 
Remember Charles law and Boyles law. Simple science. 


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Aage se sirf NCERT ke bio waale chapter se kaam nahi chalega. 


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Yaar ab Dheela rakhoge to dhakkan to udega hi. 
But dhakkan Pressure me variation inside cooker thode produce karta hai. 


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Kinematics ka question hai

Charles law and Boyles law ka.


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Cut off 85 to 95 jaayega. 


Kyuki is baar Hamam me sab nange hue hai. Kam padne waale bhi aur jyada waale bhi.

Luck played big role.

Cricket 

tennis

face powder

paani ki bottle. 

Kya bakwas ki hai exam me is baar upsc ne !!

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Ek question ye bhi hona chahiye tha

1. What ants eat. 
2. How spider weave its net of which material. 
3. Can we reuse elephants shit. 

Kuch bhi pooch rahe exam me static part ke alava. 


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I have dropped the exam this year !!

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For coachings , The survey would be like 

1. Not confusing.

2. Very less confusing

3. Moderately confusing

4. Fair enough confusing

5. Extremely confusing. 

Paper me confusion ka metrics hi decide karga sab. Otherwise sabko sab pata hi tha. 


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why, last year did u succeded


As u asked.

Apni tareef apne hi muh se .. aur shamelessly - 

I gave interview twice in 2016 and 2018 and 2020 .. I failed pre. I usually take drop... I am already in Job. So depends. 

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@sunnyleony  No .. why anyone should work in CAPF if attempting upsc multiple times. 
Wrong guess Mate. 


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Hello frenzzz I see peeps are starting to gather. Confession: I have no hope of clearing the prelims because the paper and my performance were like that. Having said that I have no regrets because I’m proud of my efforts (is that too vain to admit on a public platform??) and don’t think I could have done anything differently. There’s always going to be that “I could have revised this one more time”. But realistically speaking, I made the best use of my time in what I felt was a sustainable manner. Now what will be will be.

P.S I would really like to have a chat with the people who made the CSAT paper…. Do they like torturing people or is it just a Sunday affair?

And I like to chat with people who made paper 1 for 2021. This is the most absurd paper I have seen since 2015. 

1. Static syllabus was asked .. in half or may be in 60% of paper .. fair enough.

2. In current .. What is *keep yourself more and more informed* actually means !! 

- Asking anything absurd from cricket to tennis to anything. Somewhere upsc need to draw boundary to itself or have some clear guidelines as they prescribe in syllabus. 

- What if somebody dont like cricket or tennis and antagonist to these dovt. Ab sports magazine bhi add kar le ek. Yojna kuru aur blah blah sab to students khaa ke jaate hi hai. 

- If current happening has to be asked .. Then there must be something of past year limit. Bhai 

Mandapelle 2018 me news tha.

and most of other fact based question beling to 2019 to 2020. Unfair to freshers who are attempting first time. 


UPSC should have a meeting and decide a proper guidelines for pre . You cant torture the students by a blanket statement *Anything under the sun*

There should be some accountability of UPSC for the questions if they do not pertains to the given guidelines of syllabus as prescribed in notification.

Why they are spoiling lives of countless students !!

3. As said but for  Rural students inclusivity in UPSC - This years paper was total anti thesis of that. Do They believe rural students have such a resources to skim everything under sun to get successful in Pre. 


I believe .. No matter what UPSC wants to ask - They must stick to syllabus as prescribed in notification. 


The way UPSC is designing pRe - The pre is less to be qualified by hard work but more by a very good luck. 


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@Phantom It always happens. UPSC playing the wrong ball. They should stick. to syllabus and set guidelines . They should introduce randomness within the zone of syllabus but asking anything like roger fedrar or virat kohli etc. is making aspirants pessimistic in hard work which they always put in by self study. 


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Then put effective cutoff atleast minus 8 to 10 then this year. 


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Just 55. Pages in 4-5 days..i think this is the lowest i seen here

same. I luckily planned to drop exam this year.. shadi kar raha h mai . so left. But , Checked paper and sentiments. It was really shockingly absurd. 

However , Static questions are really well framed and require lot of conceptual clarity. 

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Just 55. Pages in 4-5 days..i think this is the lowest i seen here

same. I luckily planned to drop exam this year.. shadi kar raha h mai . so left. But , Checked paper and sentiments. It was really shockingly absurd. 

However , Static questions are really well framed and require lot of conceptual clarity. 

And it not just ranting that *paper ajeeb tha*. This year it was really next level unlike last few years.

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Just 55. Pages in 4-5 days..i think this is the lowest i seen here

same. I luckily planned to drop exam this year.. shadi kar raha h mai . so left. But , Checked paper and sentiments. It was really shockingly absurd. 

However , Static questions are really well framed and require lot of conceptual clarity. 

And it not just ranting that *paper ajeeb tha*. This year it was really next level unlike last few years.

One more factor which is leading to dipped accuracy is 

Paper 1 is becoming a literature in itself and even questions take its own sweet time to comprehend lest the decision making for answer and ambiguity in sentences. Most of people stuck in round 1 itself even they have better knowledge. 

Most of people who reached round 2 may have rushed so fast that they put wrong answers to a few. 

So - Comprehension speed of reader for Paper 1 (as 40 to 50 questions are brutally conceptual with long 4 statements)  is turning out a determining factor since 2019 and increasingly every year 2020 amd now 2021. 2021 was lengthier than past 3 yrs. 

So, My take is for 2022 guys is - Improve comprehension with respect to paper 1  so that one can have sufficient time to go for 2 good rounds. 

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@gauravbrly409 Congrats bro.
I remember last year u were motivating me that i may qualify.
I didnt qualify back then but i will this year.


Being optimistic is the only thing we can afford, No matter things are hanging with strings.

Sorry that u failed to qualify last year. I wish all d best for this year mate.

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The currency used by all coaching hubs to buy out any legitimate apprehension in the minds of young students regarding the unfairness of the process: motivation. They motivate you to aspire for exclusivity, make you believe that the achievement is associated with your self-worth, assume that the world is a level playing field, and meritocracy is the fair counterpart of an otherwise unfair system. 

The show encourages the audacity to dream, as if the reason people don’t get into UPSC is not itslimited intakebut because they don’t “believe in themselves.”

Just a thought on meritocracy after seeing 2021 Pre exam. 

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@mahi2501 I lost in 2018 just by 9 marks. and that to be blamed on interview. My mains was really great. So ... Yeah ... Didn't understand meritocracy since that day. 

But anyway... The world is subjective... I moved on. 

Even pre and mains used to totally depend on hard work of person but now a days .. seeing pre paper... It seems like gambling for 2 hours in hall. 

I would say - Jiska bhi pre nikal jaaye mains me jaan laga do  because  your years of hard work will be rewarded well in mains. 
PS. - What i said is not to discourage anyone. 


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Here we are doing PhD on questions and this is what our future bosses think about us. UPSC bhi sayad aise hi sochta hai isliye quality of paper is declining over the years. Paradoxically every other day we get to hear one or other Babu being hired at top position by Pvt sector like phonepe or even Facebook india.

Do give your views on lateral entry - 9 to 31 to what next ?? Has babudom become the deep state ?


Indeed babudom was and is the deep state. It was always. Point is

1. We have closed bureaucracy system.

2. We have committed bureaucracy.

3. We have issues in politico-bureacratic relationship. Either it is as bad as khemka or become nexus.. Of course some are good but they cant fight collusion.

4. IAS association is itself a new elite club which protects the interest of IAS as a service along with its members. IAS association has  brought but not pushed and advocated any honest reforms to cut the red tape, Make burecrats not to act Like god(kabhi kabhi lagta hai apan hi khuda h).


5. The DM as an institution dont want to delegate powers to democratic institution like Muni and PRI. (Though state have to do this by law but you know nexus). Imagine if Institution of DM is accountable to mayor for not doing any gud work ... in turn DM as institution will be accountable to immediate public . 

This institution has upwards accountability to boss both burecratic and political.. but No instrument of acc in hand of public to held a rogue bureaucrat accountable. Lokpal was a paper tiger 🤣

6. Closed nature of bureaucracy in India - Once you get in you are all govt have. Even if u never update your skill even you are non efficient... You are never go to be fired in average case. 

The bureaucracy should be open at senior level. It should not be captive of Babus hired by UPSC. UPSC should start opening more and more admin position in SCS(senior civil service) to be hired from Pvt sector or anywhere. We need talent,expertise and proficiency in admin in 21st century ... and of course ....The regular bureaucracy hired by UPSC ... is  the average talented lot in long run(read about Peters plateau)  in a big organization like Government. 


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@singlanitesh23707 check google map also.. Chenab meets indus directly. Even question was saying meeting of 3 other rivers. So in that case, ravi Sutlej and jhelum meets chenab only which meets indus directly


In Khullar , which is supposed to be  standard text book for Geography optional, it is clearly mentioned that Sutlej meets Indus after receiving combined water of three other rivers. 

I think people do prepare these stuffs from standard textbooks and not from websites, youtube videos etc. 

But if UPSC do gives Chenab as answer then only God can save future aspirants reading standard textbooks for this exam.

check in ncert. tht is gold standard. 

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@gauravbrly409 are u in railways?


No.. I work in Global investment bank .... to hint  Just google worlds top 5 . I am in one of them. Cant disclose personally identified info. Sorry mate. 

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SAsaid

@Phantom It always happens. UPSC playing the wrong ball. They should stick. to syllabus and set guidelines . They should introduce randomness within the zone of syllabus but asking anything like roger fedrar or virat kohli etc. is making aspirants pessimistic in hard work which they always put in by self study. 


Federer is well know mega star. It has lots of fans in India including politicians, businessman and film stars. there are other too , imagine if they ask about little less known one like Murray or Wawrinka. Other reason for doing this is to counter coaching material and youtubers. UPSC might bring a different randomness in year 2022.

No doubt Fedrar is mega star which I know and. u know as we have quite a good exposure of things.

. But .. I have said about candidates preparing at places like patna, allahabad , Pune , Bhopal .. who barely gathered money and sources and full focused on study with meagre resources . A level playing field should be ensured by UPSC .


Any randomness which snatches the chances of students who stands at the under privileged end ... is not good.

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Hi all,

We are starting an initiative for:

1) those want to prepare current affairs from mains perspective.
2) want to utilize time effectively

We will be putting short audio recording of current affairs for mains, which you can listen during your free time or while eating, traveling etc.
It will have nominal charges.

Interested person can join following telegram group. We will start after prelims result are out.

https://t.me/joinchat/Zel1PNiqNtMwMzg1

Bhai  Coaching start karne ka Irada hai kya future me... Yaa fir It is side hustle only.

The most of New coachings who cropped up in every nook and corner of ORN started from pitching in on Forum ias .. then whatsapp free help groups --- then.. master become popular as underdog of market --- then.. Master joins few coaching big ones for few days .... Then Master quits like a Roadie in the eyes of aspirants (followers ) ...starts  his own neccasnt institute.. ---Provides lit of free help on nominal charges ---Ab koi na koi select hota hai vo kisi bhi coaching ka koi program subscribe kar hi leta hai --+Master gets a poster boy in AIR even if that AIR guy just had attended two or three tests or just 7 days CAPSULE/JaDI booti type class. 

So master got poster boy ---Flocks start coming in. Master now become a Content curater(whereas he should be tge teacher) --Curated content sells at image runner or atul or circulation on whatsapp and telegram ---Aspirants got new hope ki kuch naya free mila --- Then , Master make sales pitch by announcing many modules and capsules and tablets and  qep or dep cep or anything u call. 

Master Mints money. Now .. Master is big shot. Now master become Tony Montana of Scarface with Lot of BALLS .. unreachable now to aspirants.

Master closes all free whatsapp groups. Master deny to identify followers who are close to them. Master then master succinctly raises rates of his CAPSULES citing costs incurred. aspirant have soft heart they enroll at high rates again. Now .  Master got one or two more AIR poster boy in two or 3 years. Now Master wish to launch an empire. Master starts foundation course . Master starts AI learning. Master go self maglomaniac and now claims He know UPSC in and out. Now, Aspirants have projector class with no interaction to ORIGINAL master But CHELA teachers are there taking classes.

Master curates all kind of products cakes, sugar candies, hajmola and caters all kind of customers in market .. ameer gareeb bhula bhatka dukhi khush tej aur bewkoof ... every type of aspirant has something to choose from catalog produced by the Salesman sitting at front desk of corporate office !!

Now , Master has an empire. 


So, Every coaching empire starts with free and nominal service. 

Examples so many.

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Dosto what are my chances

Ews category last time ews cut off was 77.51

Getting 67.33 considering following as wrong

Copper smelting marked D

Sutlej

Pressure cooker D

Synthetic medium  all

Microcondrial disease a

British model C

N gopalaswamy as D

Right to city as 1 and 2

Nizamat of arcot as only 2 



Please guys tell my chances I m not able to concentrate on studies☹️

Your score can easily increase by 8-10 marks. Start preparing for Mains

Being wishful - Start preparing for mains but dont put money in it.  Its 50-50 chance to be honest. 

Being realistic - Move on with what happened .. and pitch for 2022 pre in correct way but before that reflect and introspect on 2021 prep. Dont be hard or yourself for not getting things right in 2021. Just reflect a bit scientifically and note down on paper... Find your angle and work for 2022. 

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@gauravbrly409 and upsc throws on us this random paper to negate these coaching institutions growth . In the end sufferers are students like us 🤦🏻‍♂️


Especially those .. Who didn't get the chance to eat CAPSULES offered by empire.

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Jokarsaid

@bhuvanamalar1015412 http://www.ppup.ac.in/download/econtent/pdf/State.pdf
Option A verbatim lifted from here. Don't see any reason for it to be wrong.


you cant be sure about it cause of similar wording.state could be non sovereign too and thats why i think a is wrong.,I could be wrong too.I just believe it is b 

Pol science me theory of state me pdate hai State = Soveregnty+people+territory+Govt. Option A satisfies this criteria.I marked B despite knowing this fml


The funny thing is Shubra ma'am ke notes me verbatim likha h Ar-14 is not rule of law, it is just equality before law. Still in her prelims discussion video, she says that the given statement is a violation of rule of law, so the answer will be article 14. TBH I was expecting her to give a different answer but it seems answer key bnate time sab nayi theories bnane shuru kr dete hai :p 

P.S.- I marked Ar 32 as the answer.

A 32 is correct. The question is about when *subject matter of legislation is itself overarching* 

A14- It is about application of law per se. Second , The subject matter can be challenged on the ground of irrational classification. 

A32 - Subject matter of any law which violates any FR can be challenged under it. 


In the statement *discretion to the administrator and unlimited power to bureaucrat* tramples on right to freedom , right to equality or any FR per se because if Administrator has unregulated descretion in decision making - He is ready to make decision legally which ay hamper any FR. 

So, Impact analysis of such law tells that - The problem is in subject matter of law which may led to violation of any FR  due to any irrational decision coming out of administratorial descretion. 

So , It is Article 32.

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State definition :

answrr - 

(b) A politically organized people of a definite territory and possessing an authority to govern them, maintain law and order, protect their natural rights and safeguard their means of sustenance


why not a 

1. A Community (a nation can have to be a community but state can have many communities. ex Indian state , American state both have heterogeneous communities)

2. Permanently living from long time ( It is not required whether they are permanently living from long time or not for creating and maintaining state 

For ex - Israel ) 

Baaki aur bhi hai a to hoga hi nahi.


why B 

1. Politically organization ( State is political organization which may only come in existence by virtue of writ, decree or constitution... There can be different type of states but it is politically organized ) 

2. Definite territory ( yes .. mandatory because ..state is up to there up to where its writ being accepted by people in a territory  . As per loose concept of nation can be in 2 or 3 states based om situation for ex Irish people. But nation state is where community and government both have same alignment  ) 

3. Authority - Most basic and very important feature. There can ne no state without presence and exercise of authority.

4. rest of all are self explanatory


Source - Read ncert of poltical theory that is gold standard for this question. ok



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@gauravbrly409 your argument is appealing


My optional was pub ad. So, I cant falter onsuch things. 

PRO TIP - NCERT 6 to 12 is gold standard for all debatable political theory question. Experience. UPSC always take that one correct for polity whatever NCERT is saying. so go through chapters of NCERT and go bavk to basics and decide for yourself. 

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D503said

Jokarsaid

@bhuvanamalar1015412 http://www.ppup.ac.in/download/econtent/pdf/State.pdf
Option A verbatim lifted from here. Don't see any reason for it to be wrong.


you cant be sure about it cause of similar wording.state could be non sovereign too and thats why i think a is wrong.,I could be wrong too.I just believe it is b 

Pol science me theory of state me pdate hai State = Soveregnty+people+territory+Govt. Option A satisfies this criteria.I marked B despite knowing this fml


The funny thing is Shubra ma'am ke notes me verbatim likha h Ar-14 is not rule of law, it is just equality before law. Still in her prelims discussion video, she says that the given statement is a violation of rule of law, so the answer will be article 14. TBH I was expecting her to give a different answer but it seems answer key bnate time sab nayi theories bnane shuru kr dete hai :p 

P.S.- I marked Ar 32 as the answer.

A 32 is correct. The question is about when *subject matter of legislation is itself overarching* 

A14- It is about application of law per se. Second , The subject matter can be challenged on the ground of irrational classification. 

A32 - Subject matter of any law which violates any FR can be challenged under it. 


In the statement *discretion to the administrator and unlimited power to bureaucrat* tramples on right to freedom , right to equality or any FR per se because if Administrator has unregulated descretion in decision making - He is ready to make decision legally which ay hamper any FR. 

So, Impact analysis of such law tells that - The problem is in subject matter of law which may led to violation of any FR  due to any irrational decision coming out of administratorial descretion. 

So , It is Article 32.

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Answer uska Article -14 hai
 Article 32 is not constraining Administrators , it's just a tool to operationalise the Rights and gives them teeth. Article 32 is violated when Parliament takes away Judicial Review powers, not when administrators act arbitrarily. Discretion = Arbitrariness = unequal application of law= no equality before law or equal protection of law.


Can hou challenge under article 14 ques is that?

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State definition :

answrr - 

(b) A politically organized people of a definite territory and possessing an authority to govern them, maintain law and order, protect their natural rights and safeguard their means of sustenance


why not a 

1. A Community (a nation can have to be a community but state can have many communities. ex Indian state , American state both have heterogeneous communities)

2. Permanently living from long time ( It is not required whether they are permanently living from long time or not for creating and maintaining state 

For ex - Israel ) 

Baaki aur bhi hai a to hoga hi nahi.


why B 

1. Politically organization ( State is political organization which may only come in existence by virtue of writ, decree or constitution... There can be different type of states but it is politically organized ) 

2. Definite territory ( yes .. mandatory because ..state is up to there up to where its writ being accepted by people in a territory  . As per loose concept of nation can be in 2 or 3 states based om situation for ex Irish people. But nation state is where community and government both have same alignment  ) 

3. Authority - Most basic and very important feature. There can ne no state without presence and exercise of authority.

4. rest of all are self explanatory


Source - Read ncert of poltical theory that is gold standard for this question. ok



Is  dominion state not a state? Because it is not sovereign? 

I marked b, thinking of this logic. 😅😅

I have not talk about sovereignty .. read again


dominian state have all features which B option provides. 

The only difference is it does not have sovereignty.

Like british india - Can you say it satisfied any criteria given in all 4 options accept B. 

In option B - Sovereignty is no where mentioned. 

Even a Dominion state is politically organized have authority and a fix territory and have some duties and rights. 

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A 32 is correct. The question is about when *subject matter of legislation is itself overarching* 

A14- It is about application of law per se. Second , The subject matter can be challenged on the ground of irrational classification. 

A32 - Subject matter of any law which violates any FR can be challenged under it. 


In the statement *discretion to the administrator and unlimited power to bureaucrat* tramples on right to freedom , right to equality or any FR per se because if Administrator has unregulated descretion in decision making - He is ready to make decision legally which ay hamper any FR. 

So, Impact analysis of such law tells that - The problem is in subject matter of law which may led to violation of any FR  due to any irrational decision coming out of administratorial descretion. 

So , It is Article 32.

kuch smjh nhi aaya kya kehna cha rhe ho XD
Answer uska Article -14 hai
 Article 32 is not constraining Administrators , it's just a tool to operationalise the Rights and gives them teeth. Article 32 is violated when Parliament takes away Judicial Review powers, not when administrators act arbitrarily. Discretion = Arbitrariness = unequal application of law= no equality before law or equal protection of law.




Go and read chapter on FR of Constitution at work NCERT. You will figure it out.

Dont refer laxmi basu or any xyz coaching. You will get more confused. 

also, If you read newspapers daily and focused on court decisions during corona time where administration got tremendous descretionary power ... court came to rescue (it is the source of this question) 

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@gauravbrly409 true..Maharashtra is a state but its not sovereign


Are Baba ... what u r saying do u know .. what u just said. 

In constitution state as per federal -- province. Its not what question asked.

Bhai state ka defn poocha tha. State, nation and nation state ... waha se ye question aaya hai. 

Are you really preparing for upsc !! 

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@gauravbrly409 in political theory , possessing an authority to govern also implies that sovereignty which implied in option B


UPSC care about implied ????

UPSC dont imply. ok. 

Aise to 100 to 100 question have all 4 option right by one or other way. You have to choose most correct.

So can you tell me any other option which is very closely correct to absolute definition of state other than B ?

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Kurdish people have authority, they administer their own laws, protect their people, they have inhabited those lands for years yet Kurdistan is not a state . why ?


Because it is not recognized by international community. But they possess features of state

Have you heard the term *Missing state* when we read news about Maoist areas ??

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@gauravbrly409 don't get emotional .do not get personal.here discussion is going on ,no one is authority here. Diversity of opinions is more important than being hitler of knowledge.


Its open debate mate. Carry it on.

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Bhaiyon...aapka answer wrong hai iska maltb yeah nahi ki aap puri duniya hila doge usko sahi batane ke liye.

Ab sun lo aap sabhi apne ears "open karke".

Article 14 is the right answer.Ek baar text padho article 14 ka doston. Usme 'law' mentioned hai.

State ki definition mei A option correct hai.

State ke paas sovereignty nahi toh woh state nahi (Option A-independent of external control). Kurdistan ke paas sovereignty nahi hai. Hong Kong ke paas bhi nahi hai. Dono mei Natural right hain par wohstate nahi hain mitron.

Aap sabhi apna chirkut material dikhate rahiye. Silent majority nahi manegi.


As u brought Hongkong in picture , Just a simple Google search. There are two types of states  .. sovereign and non sovereign states. 

Sovereignty and state are two individual concepts. when a state is devoid of any external control -It is know as A sovereign state.

Another note - India was a Dominian state till 1950.. than it became sovereign state. However, It was always the STATE. 

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Bhaiyon...aapka answer wrong hai iska maltb yeah nahi ki aap puri duniya hila doge usko sahi batane ke liye.

Ab sun lo aap sabhi apne ears "open karke".

Article 14 is the right answer.Ek baar text padho article 14 ka doston. Usme 'law' mentioned hai.

State ki definition mei A option correct hai.

State ke paas sovereignty nahi toh woh state nahi (Option A-independent of external control). Kurdistan ke paas sovereignty nahi hai. Hong Kong ke paas bhi nahi hai. Dono mei Natural right hain par wohstate nahi hain mitron.

Aap sabhi apna chirkut material dikhate rahiye. Silent majority nahi manegi.


As u brought Hongkong in picture , Just a simple Google search. There are two types of states  .. sovereign and non sovereign states. 

Sovereignty and state are two individual concepts. when a state is devoid of any external control -It is know as A sovereign state.

Another note - India was a Dominian state till 1950.. than it became sovereign state. However, It was always the STATE. 

Subhra Ranjan .. Got leg before wicket by UPSC. She need tp step up.

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@gauravbrly409 in political theory , possessing an authority to govern also implies that sovereignty which is implied in option B


No it doesn't imply by any means. 

Yes .. It doesn't. But .. Log kah rahe to theek hi hai. 

Sovereignty , authority , state are three individual concept. But A state must have authority to execute its laws and to govern otherwise  there will he no state/govt but anarchism !

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@gauravbrly409  Janab traditional standard book ka question hai yeah. Iska jawab A hai. Ab apko nahi manna toh aap mat maniye.  "Best defines" likha hai question mei.  


Debate ends .. anyway !

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