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[Results] Prelims 2020 Over - Gearing for 2021

@Tyler Durden Bina tukkebazike ipaper me 45-50 questions ke upar surety ke saathsolve karna mushkil tha, for a well prepared student. Uske baad calulated risk aur tukka hi tha. Aur agar cut off 95 ke upar jaata hai matlab tukka public jeet rahi hai.


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@rafael Fir maine exam diya hi kyun? Tukke ki maarne the to. saari preparation aur mehnat dhari ki dhari rah gayi, aur cut off tukkebaaz decide kar rhe. Main 114 laya lat year. Iss saal 94-98 ke beech ghoom raha hu. Paper mujhe tough laga n lat 5 years, this being my last attempt. But yaha to kahani aur hi chal rahi hai.


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@Ashwaththama Jab UPsC gaanja fook ke paper set kar sakti hai, to Coachingwalas also have every right to do the same.


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@Shubz UPCs will decide the csat answer. Noone else can tell. so wait for the results


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@Tyler Durden I also will have to return to job market now if I don't clear prelims this time, after a gap of 2.5 year. so uncertainty is waiting on the other side too, for me. Of all my attempts, this one shocked me, and made me realise it's not about hard-work and dedication anymore. It has become a game of wild guesses and tilted towards luck factor. 


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@Jokar Haa, ye controversial hai. None of the option is entirely correct. Bonus marks maybe.


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@lonecode Ab to ek zamana ho gaya. 2019 mains ka pahle to result late aaya, aur ab mark v nahi bata rahe hain.


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@walterwhit3 Regarding PAPER 2 at least, noone knows what is correct key, Noone.
UPsc decides and it is the key, when right or wrong. No point in checking Paper 2 keys.
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@Harmony same as yours 90s ke chakkar kaat rahe, 93-99 ghoom rahe as per keys aur apne interpretation se 104 tak v jaa rahe. Attempt v last hai, job v chhod diya 2 saal pahle. Uncertainty mast wali hai.


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@azam_imame434 In this paper scoring above 110+ is very tough, it can be either tukka or very strong luck. Last year I scored 114, now this year I am in the zone of 92-100. Many first timer tend to be liberal while counting their core, and actual core are generally 10-15 mark lower than they claim.  I have done it in my first attempt. Even if I have had avoided 2 silly mistake which I did, I couldn't cross 105+, that' a drop of 7-10 marks . And veteran generally do not tend to inflate their score. Cut off won't go beyond 98. It can even fall to 90-92. 


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@gauravbrly409 Every comment of yours i telling my story. same score range. Every time I try to study, I am getting more and more anxious. Was never this anxious in any of the attempts. The uncertainty over this paper is exceptionally high.
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@jvr I buy vehicle insurance every year. Never provided Aadhar.


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@gauravbrly409 I couln't finish the paper. Could have attempted 5-10 more. No time for 3rd round. Haven't even properly read 5-6 question yet, mostly agriculture ones. And out of haste, I did silly mistake in basic polity question. Lengthy, unpredictable, and unconventional question mix, this paper was tough in all aspects.


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@KratosOfPUBThey are telling my score range. Mujhe hi border pillar bana ke khada kiya jaa raha har jagah.


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@Artificial_intelligence Same here. Last attempt. similar mark with optimal at 96.67. Let's hope we clear it.


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@Udit_pathak I also marked 1 and 4


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@Aurang_mirasudar What a name you chose


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@Udit_pathak Exactly same condition.


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@capci22 Ethics and Optionals ke liye go to syllabus, and go keyword by keyword.
For example, if you encounter Emotional intelligence, go and watch a video of it on youtube.
Similarly for mains, read the standard textbooks for the mains subject with extra care for keywords in the syllabus.


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Meri alag hi samasya ho gayi hai. Answersheet me count koya tha to 79 bubbles the, aur question paper me 83 dikh rahe. Samajh me nahi aa raha ki sahi wale miss huwe hain ya galat wale? Aur naye calculation se marks me ab aur variation ta gayi. Ab 91-102 ghoom raha marks. Khararnak anxiety hai, considering it’s my last attempt.

I am already 31. Was in a well paying job. Quit kiya in 2018, to dedicate more time to preparation, after successive close failures in prelims. Score 114 in prelims last year. Couldn’t clear mains.

And this year again, I am stuck at God knows where.

Have rejected good job offers from

abroad last year for preparation. 

And when I quit my job, and took this course, people close to me abandoned me, including my fiance.

I have paid a huge price for this journey, and cannot recall when I slept for 6 hours last time. 

And after all this, UPSC throws this lottery selection system paper.


I question all rhe wisdoms now like “Hardwork pays off”, “Sacrifices pay off”, and “Upsc sets paper for selecting civil servants”.


I lost 4 years, a job, family life, fiance, self confidence, socially vibrant life, and trust in the system.


I will do something good for sure, but the dream of be the part of policy making, and implementation is at God’s mercy now.


Sorry, I made it a sad story. But there is a reason for it.


Those who are reading it, must know that this exam is not just about hardwork, but about strong luck factor too. When all things are in place, then only you will get through. It’s our duty to work hard, but that alone won’t get you through. There are things beyond that too. Much like Nepolean. He was not just brilliant, but extremely lucky too, and he always made sure he chose his commanders who were invariably lucky people. 


Anyways fingers crossed.

I wish luck to everyone. Everyone has worked hard here.

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@Tokyo Haa. Ye I marked accordingly, but I guess I missed bubbling some, as I struggled to finish the paper. I had left some for 3rd round, but struggled to finish the second round only. 

Never happened that I couldn’t finish paper in all my attempts or mock tests, even in 2018 when I was sleep deprived. 

But this paper man!

Everything under the sun and a new pattern and unpredictability every year cannot be tackled.

Some people are good at something, others are good at some other things.

At the end, it’s all about which set of people did the paper favour?


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@Thor_vs_Hulk I shall say that Palas rose to power before the Pratiharas and it were Pratiharas who limited the Palas to the east.
Inherently Palas come in the timeline before th Pratiharas.
I read it on the morning of Prelims from my notes I made from AL Basham's The wonder that was India Vol 1.



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@Equalizer Did the same. Did job for 6 years. Then quit. Couldn't clear mains last year after that too.
And this year, in my last attempt, prelims's result anticipation is giving me chills.


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@VivekanandS I did. Attempted 1 and 4. I read about senior citizens criteria somewhere, but shocked to find every coaching providing 1,2.


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@Udit_pathak UPSC can do anything!


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Any chances that preamble can be A ?


Is there any channce that only C is answer of non financial debt

UPSC can do anything. 

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Seeing my last year prelims marks, it's 14 marks more than Shankar keys.

This year, I am hinging between 92-102. Hopes high now!



PS: Mains ke marks na puchhna. Hindi, Essay aur Ethics ke alawa kahi 100 v cross nahi hua

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rafaelsaid

Kntsaid

Seeing my last year prelims marks, it's 14 marks more than Shankar keys.

This year, I am hinging between 92-102. Hopes high now!

PS: Mains ke marks na puchhna. Hindi, Essay aur Ethics ke alawa kahi 100 v cross nahi hua

u might have calculated frm their earlier key . It had several mistakes . Later they had revised many answers except digital signature , ramsar etc

Might be the case, but none of the keys were taking me beyond 108, but as per my instincts, I was getting 114.

This year, instincts say 100.

Let's see!!!!

Hope God help hardworkers, and not tukkabaz's

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2019 Prelims marks are unbelievable ..
71 in csat...though I was scoring above 90  from every answer key

For CSAT, there is not point going with coaching keys. Noone can tell answers for passages. UPSC only passes the verdict.

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@Knt yeah thats why this time I did very few ques of English, and relied on mathematics...Hope will sail through..cuz getting 110 in P1 as per forum key...cant afford blunders this time...even mains marks were a shocker!
I was expecting good marks in GS 1 and ended up with 66.
essay  was a blunder- wrote rubbish stuff- 116
optional was history so never expected something positive out of it after my exam


Same. History optional. Abysmally low marks in GS1,2,3.
Good marks in Essay, ethics!
Optional marks too were shocker.


I have only 2 improvement strategy.

Improve handwriting, and pray for luck.


It's a number game, and in mains, we are not being judged based on our knowledge, but our presentation and human factor of the evaluator.

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For AI can't effectively do songs 😂🤣


https://artsandculture.google.com/theme/12-songs-created-by-ai-barbican-centre/FwJibAD7QslgLA?hl=en


Yet some people will keep pushing "no effectively meaningful songs reeeeee"

What if those are UPSC people deciding keys?? Your ans are all wrong..

People debating.


Either A or D are the options

Upsc: B is the answer.


There are more such questions that we have been discussing here.

I didn’t bring them here, but at least 10 questions fall in this category.


abd no point discussion. Because, whatever UPSC provides as the key, it cannot be questioned even if it is false.


So, agains time to move forward. My only desire here is that hardwork should be rewarded accordingly.

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@hound  I thought for 5 minutes on the money supply question, and marked A. All m0, m1, m2, m3 flashed before my brain. And went for increase in money supply option, based on the logic that on immediate level, the amount became liquid and the person can buy an Iphone immediately with the money. In the account, it was less liquid.
Let's see how UPSC interprets it. It can go either way.



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@Rambo93 Ye wala v hai bhai.
Main bol nahi raha tha, ki shanti bani rahe, aur public tension na le. Jo hona tha, wo ho gaya hai. Aur debate karke v koi fayda nahi. Non of us are experts and regardless of what we marked we have to agree to UPSC verdict on the keys.
Doesn't mean ki tension nahi hai.
Har koi jo borderline par hai, uski halaat abhi thik nhi hai.


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@ShivamS  west Texas or rare earth.. Islie answer will be c.. Lo bn gya doubtful


Nahi, abhi v doubtful nahi hai. West Texas Intermediate nahi bola yaha par.

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@Harsh_capf_ac thanks.. cutoff must not cross 95 for me to be safe this year


TOUGH TO THA HI, US FACTOR SE DEKHOO TO 95 RAHEGI, PAR CORONA FACTOR NEED TO ADDED, I FACT I WAS NOT ABE TO BREATH PROPERLY, MASK UTARRNA PADAA THA, AADAT TO MOCKS DETE SAMAY BHI NAHI THI, MASK LAGAANE KI. 1 MAHINEE PEHLEE TOH LAG RAHA THA PAPER AB AGLEE SAAL HOGAA. MANY FACOTRS ARE THERE, 93 HONII CHAHIYEE, HAR BAAR 60% JANTAA HOTI THI, ISS BAR 40 %.

Are bhai let me tell you one thing, many first timers this time are scoring good, because guess work se question ho gye hai jada knowledge ki jarurat nahi padi, toh usko bhi consider karna hoga

Based on my interaction with the 1st,2nd attempter, my juniors it appears that this year was not good for them.


They usually are risk averse. If they encounter something they have never heard of they usually leave it unlike senior players. Tukkebazi, gues work, cheat, hack whatever we may call... seniors are better at it...may be at subconscious level they knew the answer.


For most new players paper was nightmare.

Bhai, mera to last attempt hai. Technically 5th considering my age. But maine to pichhle 2 prelims se kam hi mark kiya. Only because main 3rd round jaa hi nahi paaya.

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@Equalizer  Then in your opinion which is the most appropriate answer for nalsa question? Transgender or senior citizen?


Transgender. Though I have marked it 1&4. 

Na bhai. Transgender nahi hoga. Senior citizen is speicifcally mentioned on NALSA website. But both Trans and Senior citizens are eligible depending on states.
So ek v poora sahi option nahi tha,
But I went with 1, 4 because I read the keyword senior citizens specifically somewhere.

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Im getting 96.7 after removing preamble (marked A) and metadata (marked C). Kitna chances hain?? Someone tell

If you are following the thread, at least 7-8 questions have been marked as doubtful.

But considering you get 96.7, chances of clearing is high.

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@Knt bhai.. It was just a joke.. West Texas wala crude oil hi h.. Koi doubt ni h uspe.. 

Wese since u r a senior player, what do u think of my chances.. My score as per different keys are

Vision- 94.66
Forum- 97.33
Shankar- 97.33


Bhai chances kaafi high hain, because CSAT me tough raha aur gs v, to cut off 98 se niche hi jaega.
It can even fall to 92.
I am not an expert, but as per me, not just the toughness of paper, but the shock factor also forces cut off up and down. This paper was a shock on account of toughness, composition, and length. 

I personally feel people above 90 should study(though I am also a victim of anxiety). Upsc keys can swing the marks by 15 in either direction. 



So ideally agar anxiety issues hain aur padhai nahi ho rahi, to wahi karo jo main kar raha.


Ethics padho. Kuchh nahi to philosphers ki ideology. Usse generic subjects se door rahoge to tension nahi hogi, aur GS4 v prepare ho jaega.




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@Knt bhai ye mera 5th attempt tha.
Pehle 3 mains, 1 interview hua hai.
And this is the only exam I give. 
First time CSAT mein borderline aaya hu. Tension mujhe bhi hai. Tension se zyada sharm aa raha hai khud par.
But my point is tension se kuch hoga nahi, yaha jitna debate hoga utna hi load badega. 
Ek aur baat jiska hona hota hai unhe pata hota hai hoga ya nahi. Khud se samjhta hai, even borderline raha to bhi. Result miracle nahi hota. 


Bilkul sahi baar. Mera last attempt. Aur ideally iske pahle to pata chal hi jaata tha ki hoga ya nahi because answers right hain ya wrong pata hota tha. Iss baar consensus hui nahi hai answers par. isiliye to doubt ho raha hai. Personally for me, CSAT me check v nahi kiya keys. Usme definitely main clear hu. But gs ke marks 92-104 ghoom rahe. Last year 102-116 ghoom rahe the, so I knew in any case I was safe, I got 115.7.
Is saal gut feeling says ki 100 ke aaspaas aaega,.
But this year is full of uncertainties, jaha itnse saal paper dene ke baad me mera dimag v shock factor ka victim ho raha tha. Aur aisa kaafi logo ke saath hua hoga. So wo angle hi thoda dicey hai.

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Guys I need some help

Yahan koi engineer ho toh please guide me 

My brother is getting rank of 80000 in jee mains so he is not getting nit so he is planning to go to Chandigarh for CS engineering

I m from Rajasthan.Is it right decision to go there or he should do private engineering

Which is good for future ?

Please guide me


Go to any institution with good placement record.
After IIT, NIT,IIIT, more or less every institutes are same.


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