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[official][prelims 2023] How was prelims result? In or out?

Scoring 88 from Insights 

Too tensed to check any other key

As CSAT is also borderline: hoping some comprehensions to go my way

got some stupid q wrong in Paper 1 

Guess should've attempted some time controlled mocks

And more importantly , the q I got wrong were because of hurry or excitement maybe

certainly not because my concepts failed

feels stupid but I'll list them here

1: Money/finance bill question>clear concept, remember reading money bill in place of finance bill in the first option; don't know why, probable reason>too excited to see easy question

2: geo ka specific heat wala question. knew the answer ticked the wrong statement>both statements were right and followed each other but ticked the other one

3. Missiles question: knew the answer >probably hurry or again excitement

these are the ones i found when checking the insights key

prob there are more 

yeah, sad

will analyze in more detail once the result comes out

was my first attempt

gave it everything

some lessons for next attempt

honestly was very happy after giving the 1st paper

next 6 months answer writing ; mains and optional 

 

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Seeing less and less people say they are scoring more than 100 this year

was a significant number last year

cutoff might be 80

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Attempt more to get more marks

never believed this theory 

this paper it might have worked better though

(ofc given good prep)

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@jogdand Finally..! Someone with a real understanding of Gyroscopes. I did apply the same logic & marked only 2. But all answer keys are saying otherwise.  


yeah

applied same logic

but read somewhere that apple used accelerometer in rotation stuff

so  u never know

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Pizzzasaid

Regarding the accelerometer question:


1) Theoretically, A gyroscope is sufficient to cause the rotation of the screen of our phones. A gyroscope measures angular velocity.

2) But, with just a gyroscope, we cannot determine how quickly do we need to switch the screen. We also need to measure acceleration for that. To have that flawless rotation of our screen, we need both a gyro and an accelerometer.

3) Most embedded processors have both gyro+accelerometer working together, like gone are the days when we used to use gyro alone. All of our smartphones in today times, come with both gyro+accelerometer together.


So, for us to perfectly make the screen rotate on our smart phones, we need both gyro+accelerometer. So, the answer will be "All three".

The question is very contentious but going by logic Only, one statement is very different than the other 2 statements. To genuinely mark all 3, one would require specialized knowledge, in UPSCs terms. 

logic wale hi marenge sare

those who marked s/tech all true probably fared better lol

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Pizzzasaid

Regarding the accelerometer question:


1) Theoretically, A gyroscope is sufficient to cause the rotation of the screen of our phones. A gyroscope measures angular velocity.

2) But, with just a gyroscope, we cannot determine how quickly do we need to switch the screen. We also need to measure acceleration for that. To have that flawless rotation of our screen, we need both a gyro and an accelerometer.

3) Most embedded processors have both gyro+accelerometer working together, like gone are the days when we used to use gyro alone. All of our smartphones in today times, come with both gyro+accelerometer together.


So, for us to perfectly make the screen rotate on our smart phones, we need both gyro+accelerometer. So, the answer will be "All three".

The question is very contentious but going by logic Only, one statement is very different than the other 2 statements. To genuinely mark all 3, one would require specialized knowledge, in UPSCs terms. 

logic wale hi marenge sare

those who marked s/tech all true probably fared better lol

Nah. I think UPSC has reversed the trend since 2020 when all of the above was not the correct option in science and tech application based questions. I am pretty sure for HFC, Mercury and this one, not all statements are correct. 

hope so; but then these have to be classified as extremely diff q

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What about the question on due process?

Marked A

Counting it wrong as per insights

but still believe it should be a

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@DrKingSchultz100 Bhai, it should be A. Also, as per classnotes of Vajiram, SC in Maneka Gandhi case held that, it will apply the Principle of Natural Justice and if law is arbitrary and oppressive, it will declare the law as invalid. It said that Article 21 inherently includes the principle of natural justice and thus it succeeded in reading due process of law under Article 21.


ANSWERED it on the same logic of MENAKA GANDHI

Fair applications sound too limiting

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i don't remember which option i marked but remember it was wrong as per insights

Anyway, internal migration seems like a push

local prolly just means planning at local level  

understand the zeal to push your answer to be right though 

many I want to be right lol 

but we will never know

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Bas yahi bolna chathaa hun ki mai wahi tha jo 2021 ke Pre mei Indus River System wale question par option D satluj bol raha tha...par baaki sab mujhe DM mei nayi nayi cheez bata rahe theay.


Natural justice is a british Concept while Fairness and DPOL is American. Also one thing i have learnt in this Upsc journey is that if you cant find your option directly linked to your question on Google, you cant say that its right.


if you simply google, you will find that Fairness word is associated too many times with Dopl. Show me a link where it is associated with Natural justice.

Yeah jin bhaisahab ney screenshot dala haina MANEKA gandhi wala, usme zara Fairness word bhi check karlein...kitni baar diya hua hai...

Have ticked Natural Justice 

counting it as wrong as per insights

but

Fairness is fine but it says fair application of law

I asked myself the same q in exam that what if the law is unfair?

wasn't that what the issue was in Menaka Gandhi case?

That the law has to be fair

And what is the vision ans key on this one?

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@quasiwin prelims 2022 ka key nahi aaya na?I don't know why but i have a feeling ki upsc wants to stop this procedure of giving answer key from now...



What is even the use now? what stupid policy from students perspective 

apna hi dekh rhe hain ye log

2022 in my opinion was a lil bit easier as compared to 21

this one was bonkers

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@Tejasjv unable to upload screenshot:

https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/migration-compact

Read this: (from official website)

Global Compact

The Global Compact for Migration is the first-ever UN global agreement on a common approach to international migration in all its dimensions. The global compact is non-legally binding. It is grounded in values of state sovereignty, responsibility-sharing, non-discrimination, and human rights, and recognizes that a cooperative approach is needed to optimize the overall benefits of migration, while addressing its risks and challenges for individuals and communities in countries of origin, transit and destination.

The global compact comprises 23 objectives for better managing migration at local, national, regional and global levels. The compact:


only talks about management of int migration at diff levels 

ticked wrong myself

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I'm pretty sure they are not making answer keys after the paper is held

is everyone talking about refined answer key after representations?

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yes, I expect even harder maths questions next year.

And tougher comprehension as well

No way they are going back on this

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Pam123said


Iska kya matlab hua? Csat fail hone par bhi gs ki copies toh check hoti hi hai. Is this any credible source?

I guess they check it afterwards

Jinka clear hai check krke result out

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Tatasaid

Zyada jaldi nahi aa raha result is baar?


How credible these 'rumors' are?

17 days last year

will be 13  tomorrow

given the csat massacre

look like they are true

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What was the number of applicants in the cleared-csat category last year?

Can anyone help here?

maybe no one knows 

as no one really cared as much

this year they went extreme with it

only 17% clearing csat if this 84000 is true

if avg 5 lakh ppl write pre (prob more)

might have significant effect on cutoffs

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SMRsaid

@Tejasjv but the comment section, someone asked if the results can come tmrw and he said maybe ab yeh kya.


could be anything 

but the csat difficulty must have created difficulty for categories where less ppl appear like ews st sc 

OBC UR still enough ppl will clear csat

and they might also consider not letting the gs cutoff fall too much

but all speculation

and we'll never really know

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zara socho.....

If the cutoff of SC ST category is falling too low........and UPSC decides ki UR me hum 1:12 le lenge.... par SC me 1:10....ye tho discrimination ho gaya na.....
Decisions like this get stuck in legitimate legal troubles...No?

If the ratio is constant.....last year se zyada log pre qualify honi chahiye.......If they decrease the ratio overall .., then the gap between UR and SC cutoffs will be the same.
My point is simple...Ye 'insider sources' are doing bullshit using all the frenzy of aspirants. Attention tumhara......revenue unka.

Ratio will be same 

they can't change that ofcourse

all I'm saying is that given the difficulty level of csat and the cutoff might be disproportionally lower for these categories 

given the gross no of people in these categories being less and well prepared people affected due to csat

just speculation

The ratio of no of ppl selected for mains per seat in diff categories will ofcourse be same


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THIS GUY DOES SEEM LEGIT THOUGH


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@Ri2raj let's see, I'm still skeptical about this robot guy. If true then yes anyone with 80+ (after assuming all disputed wrong) or 90+ with coaching keys is in.


THE thing is 

Its very easy for someone with 85+ from coaching keys to end up on the wrong side

and someone with 80 to get 95

ANswer key cuts both ways

so -10/ +5 might be a good range  to expect 

And hoping to be on the good side of csat

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First attempt

made it

only god knows how I cleared CSAT

And I don't even want to know ever 

Bhagwan ne CSAT krwa diya yaar

WHEN does the list with names come out?

I really want to confirm lol

don't believe it 

had given up

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IN
my score range was


this much score might be the top percentiles this year

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In. Last attempt. Fourth Mains awaits.

Bhai

My first attempt

PSYCh optional

though Im an Honours graduate in psych

no problem in concepts

Have completed paper 1 with some notes

nit much paper 2

IF you have any psych related tips 

please write


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I wanted to ask those who have cleared this prelims. I can clearly see that attempting on the higher side has worked for many. Do you agree that our attempts should be on higher side given the increased subjectivity in the questions ? Has someone with conservative attempt (Less than 80) cleared here ?

Kindly share your experience if possible

1st timer

Attempted- 72

Score-88  (checked from insights only)

Have had the feeling since last 10 days that more attempts might have worked even better

Couldn't attempt the paper properly due to almost no experience of time controlled mocks

which was probably very imp due to this year surprise paper

1-50>34 attempted (should've attempted more here probably)

50-100>38 attempted

 had heard some bad stories about this last minute attempt wala stuff

so calmed my nerves and let the paper go


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Mains people 

Passed out 2 yrs ago 

Still haven't collected original degree from clg

Is it must for DAF?

I understand people in last year or those who don't have it yet can use provisional

but since I passed out 2 yrs ago...... Will I need it or can do without it?

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Hello folks, pen recommendation please !!

Like V7- better flows though splurges a little bit too much ink

V5- too thin I think and gets into the paper a lil bit 

Trimax is also fine , not a fan of the ink colour

V7 flows very smooth, trying this one for further tests

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