Civil Services Mains 2020 Results: In or Out ? Way ahead, gratitude and Pain
The Civils Mains result has been declared. This thread is for sharing your grief , joy , mixed feelings - absolutely anything and everything.
sbhati,sjerngalWhat was the cuisine like in india before arrival of tomato , potato, chillies from the new world. As it is I can't imagine india without Aalu and tamatar. Astonishing how things that we take for granted to be part of cusuine culture are barely 600 years old!
"If we deconstruct that these foods were inherently native, then that means that the Italians didn't have the tomato, the Irish didn't have the potato, half the British National Dish—Fish and Chips—didn't exist. The Russians didn't have the potato, nor did they have vodka from the potato. There were no chiles in any Asian cuisine anywhere in the world, nor were there any chiles in any East Indian cuisine dishes, including curries. And the French had no confection using either vanilla or chocolate. So the Old World was a completely different place."
@Pink_Floyd Well I have being following Frank since past 4 years. However with his new channel , I rather his personal views , one should focus on the panels comments and arguments. He sometimes feels like being biased in his opinion. And honestly ultimately you need to have your own thinking while writing. So even if you do not follow the channels , if you are thorough with good editorials relevant for exams, your job is done.Also I felt Dipin sirs article which he shares in CA classes are gems.@forumias if you could launch a new space with good articles relevant for exam even if its for small subscription that could help us save our time. :)
Agree with this. Discussions are good (mainly because panel is credible) but the channel itself may not be ideologically neutral as Big Picture used to be on RSTV.
What was the cuisine like in india before arrival of tomato , potato, chillies from the new world. As it is I can't imagine india without Aalu and tamatar. Astonishing how things that we take for granted to be part of cusuine culture are barely 600 years old!
"If we deconstruct that these foods were inherently native, then that means that the Italians didn't have the tomato, the Irish didn't have the potato, half the British National Dish—Fish and Chips—didn't exist. The Russians didn't have the potato, nor did they have vodka from the potato. There were no chiles in any Asian cuisine anywhere in the world, nor were there any chiles in any East Indian cuisine dishes, including curries. And the French had no confection using either vanilla or chocolate. So the Old World was a completely different place."
I often find it amusing that many of us start our day with Tea and Biscuits and use words like “Mummy” and “Papa”. One of the brands is even called Britannia!
What was the cuisine like in india before arrival of tomato , potato, chillies from the new world. As it is I can't imagine india without Aalu and tamatar. Astonishing how things that we take for granted to be part of cusuine culture are barely 600 years old!
"If we deconstruct that these foods were inherently native, then that means that the Italians didn't have the tomato, the Irish didn't have the potato, half the British National Dish—Fish and Chips—didn't exist. The Russians didn't have the potato, nor did they have vodka from the potato. There were no chiles in any Asian cuisine anywhere in the world, nor were there any chiles in any East Indian cuisine dishes, including curries. And the French had no confection using either vanilla or chocolate. So the Old World was a completely different place."
I often find it amusing that many of us start our day with Tea and Biscuits and use words like “Mummy” and “Papa”. One of the brands is even called Britannia!
State govt spends Rs 2 lakhs daily Rs.8 crores annually on tea, biscuits for secretariat officials , hospitality charges.
sbhati,On a slightly similar note, something interesting that I learnt today (quotes from Wikipedia):
"Coca-Cola was India's leading soft drink until 1977 when it left India after a new government ordered the company to dilute its stake in its Indian unit as required by the Foreign Exchange Regulation Act (FERA). In 1993, the company (along with PepsiCo) returned after the introduction of India's Liberalization policy."
And in response Indian Government launched this:
"Double Sevenwas an Indiansoft drinkbrand. It was manufactured and marketed by theIndian governmentafterCoca-Colaquit the Indian market in 1977 due to changes in government policies. Double Seven was launched at the annual trade fair at Pragati Maidan, New Delhi as a gift by the then rulingJanata Party"
What was the cuisine like in india before arrival of tomato , potato, chillies from the new world. As it is I can't imagine india without Aalu and tamatar. Astonishing how things that we take for granted to be part of cusuine culture are barely 600 years old!
"If we deconstruct that these foods were inherently native, then that means that the Italians didn't have the tomato, the Irish didn't have the potato, half the British National Dish—Fish and Chips—didn't exist. The Russians didn't have the potato, nor did they have vodka from the potato. There were no chiles in any Asian cuisine anywhere in the world, nor were there any chiles in any East Indian cuisine dishes, including curries. And the French had no confection using either vanilla or chocolate. So the Old World was a completely different place."
Funny you should ask because I love food history. I read in a book sometime ago, but India had a long tradition of cooking without potato, chillies and tomatoes. Gourds and other root vegetables (looking at you, arbi) were used in lieu. Souring agents like tamarind and curds were used instead of tomatoes. As for chilli- good old pepper and pippali (long pepper) were used as flavouring instead. There were also various other methods of cooking, often in line with the dosha system of Ayurveda. So techniques like sautéing, stir-frying, deep frying and boiling were popular. The flavours that people ate were very different to what we eat nowadays. Curry as we eat it, is also a recent invention, from the time of the Mughal dynasty. One of the closest to the original archaic recipe (from Nalapachakam) that has still survived is the humble baingan fry or the stuffed parval ki sabzi. Most of the flavours that we eat currently are from the colonial period, or some rendition from the Mughal repertoire.
Thanks for the question, I had fun answering this
@LetsGetThisBreadgreat stuff. food history is a fascinating subject. I was shocked to learn samosa egypt se aaya hai. Even the very word sabzi seems to be of persian origin.
So is jalebi….. it was called zalabia
What was the cuisine like in india before arrival of tomato , potato, chillies from the new world. As it is I can't imagine india without Aalu and tamatar. Astonishing how things that we take for granted to be part of cusuine culture are barely 600 years old!
"If we deconstruct that these foods were inherently native, then that means that the Italians didn't have the tomato, the Irish didn't have the potato, half the British National Dish—Fish and Chips—didn't exist. The Russians didn't have the potato, nor did they have vodka from the potato. There were no chiles in any Asian cuisine anywhere in the world, nor were there any chiles in any East Indian cuisine dishes, including curries. And the French had no confection using either vanilla or chocolate. So the Old World was a completely different place."
I often find it amusing that many of us start our day with Tea and Biscuits and use words like “Mummy” and “Papa”. One of the brands is even called Britannia!
Another amusing thing is how Chicken Tikka Masala came to be Britain’s nationally beloved dish, right up there with Fish n Chips.
What was the cuisine like in india before arrival of tomato , potato, chillies from the new world. As it is I can't imagine india without Aalu and tamatar. Astonishing how things that we take for granted to be part of cusuine culture are barely 600 years old!
"If we deconstruct that these foods were inherently native, then that means that the Italians didn't have the tomato, the Irish didn't have the potato, half the British National Dish—Fish and Chips—didn't exist. The Russians didn't have the potato, nor did they have vodka from the potato. There were no chiles in any Asian cuisine anywhere in the world, nor were there any chiles in any East Indian cuisine dishes, including curries. And the French had no confection using either vanilla or chocolate. So the Old World was a completely different place."
What I could recall from reading Sudha Murthy:
"During death anniversary,
cucumber, black-pepper, .. are used; and
imported vegetables or spices weren't used. Vishwamitra Shrishti (Califlower, Eggplant, .. ) these imports were called. Trishanku Swarga (neither earth not heaven) is where the vegetables belonged to."
"Gulab Jamun is from Iran, .."
There were more vegetables, fruits and desserts popular in India or some state's, but not originated in India.
There is a tv show also related to this theme. Haven’t watched it but I hear its good.
@LetsGetThisBread even Gulab Jamuns and Halwa are of Persian origin no?Talk about Persian cuisine has got me craving for Baklava now 🤤
Yep, most of the sweets that aren’t milk based are of imported origins
What was the cuisine like in india before arrival of tomato , potato, chillies from the new world. As it is I can't imagine india without Aalu and tamatar. Astonishing how things that we take for granted to be part of cusuine culture are barely 600 years old!
"If we deconstruct that these foods were inherently native, then that means that the Italians didn't have the tomato, the Irish didn't have the potato, half the British National Dish—Fish and Chips—didn't exist. The Russians didn't have the potato, nor did they have vodka from the potato. There were no chiles in any Asian cuisine anywhere in the world, nor were there any chiles in any East Indian cuisine dishes, including curries. And the French had no confection using either vanilla or chocolate. So the Old World was a completely different place."
I often find it amusing that many of us start our day with Tea and Biscuits and use words like “Mummy” and “Papa”. One of the brands is even called Britannia!
Another amusing thing is how Chicken Tikka Masala came to be Britain’s nationally beloved dish, right up there with Fish n Chips.
Chicken tikka masala was an entirely British creation…. much like Madras curry powder. It was popularised by colonial officials who missed Indian curry after their stint in India.
Dionysus,VillanelleThere is a tv show also related to this theme. Haven’t watched it but I hear its good.
I love this show
If we talk about and do not mention Ranveer Brar, it is a crime in North India! :P
An amazing person and in every recipe he puts up on his channel, food history is sprinkled with just the right proportion. A must watch for cooking and food history enthusiasts.
Also, His show called Raja Rasoi aur Andaaz is also lovely.
Both his channel and the show(from epic tv) are available on youtube. Do watch!
If we talk about and do not mention Ranveer Brar, it is a crime in North India! :P
An amazing person and in every recipe he puts up on his channel, food history is sprinkled with just the right proportion. A must watch for cooking and food history enthusiasts.
Also, His show called Raja Rasoi aur Andaaz is also lovely.
Both his channel and the show(from epic tv) is available on youtube. Do watch!
To chliye shuru krte h panner tikka bnane k liye aapko chahiye "panner" : p
Fir kahiyega mat ki Ranveer ne bataya ni! :P
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