Civil Services Mains 2020 Results: In or Out ? Way ahead, gratitude and Pain
The Civils Mains result has been declared. This thread is for sharing your grief , joy , mixed feelings - absolutely anything and everything.
Even as India grapples with the ferocious second wave of Covid-19, the government Wednesday warned that a third wave of the pandemic was “inevitable”, although a time-frame for it could not be predicted.
“Phase three is inevitable given the higher levels of circulating virus, but it is not clear on what time-scale this phase three will occur. We should be prepared for new waves,” K Vijay Raghavan, the principal scientific advisor to the Centre, said during a press briefing.
BurtMacklin_FBI,
Even as India grapples with the ferocious second wave of Covid-19, the government Wednesday warned that a third wave of the pandemic was “inevitable”, although a time-frame for it could not be predicted.
“Phase three is inevitable given the higher levels of circulating virus, but it is not clear on what time-scale this phase three will occur. We should be prepared for new waves,” K Vijay Raghavan, the principal scientific advisor to the Centre, said during a press briefing.
Yikes. I’ll have to wrap my grandma in bubble wrap if this becomes a thing. :/
Even as India grapples with the ferocious second wave of Covid-19, the government Wednesday warned that a third wave of the pandemic was “inevitable”, although a time-frame for it could not be predicted.
“Phase three is inevitable given the higher levels of circulating virus, but it is not clear on what time-scale this phase three will occur. We should be prepared for new waves,” K Vijay Raghavan, the principal scientific advisor to the Centre, said during a press briefing.
Yikes. I’ll have to literally wrap my grandma in bubble wrap if this becomes a thing. :/
I thought of doing it, but got a little late. Grandpa already infected by Covid, grandma is safe , I guess have to do this.
Even as India grapples with the ferocious second wave of Covid-19, the government Wednesday warned that a third wave of the pandemic was “inevitable”, although a time-frame for it could not be predicted.
“Phase three is inevitable given the higher levels of circulating virus, but it is not clear on what time-scale this phase three will occur. We should be prepared for new waves,” K Vijay Raghavan, the principal scientific advisor to the Centre, said during a press briefing.
Yikes. I’ll have to literally wrap my grandma in bubble wrap if this becomes a thing. :/
I thought of doing it, but got a little late. Grandpa already infected by Covid, grandma is safe , I guess have to do this.
My neighbor's grandfather died of asphyxiation due to bubble wrapping mechanism but yeah he remained corona free till his last.
So, don't know if it is a good idea afterall.
Just read the whole justifying corruption stuff and this is so fun. :D Trust me, I can't stop smiling. Someone mentioned salaries. Just throwing in some data from an ex civil servant about the LOW salaries of a Indian civil servant. https://qr.ae/pGtnnb So damn low. I feel bad for the officers in my city, may be they need help. And mind you these numbers do not include the ridiculous amount of power differential Indian civil servants have with their western counterparts. And the social status differential.
Ram ji please kripa karo apne desh pe thodi to, saari sadbudhi satyug ke liye hi thi kya!
Inselberg,AJ_Just read the whole justifying corruption stuff and this is so fun. :D Trust me, I can't stop smiling. Someone mentioned salaries. Just throwing in some data from an ex civil servant about the LOW salaries of a Indian civil servant. https://qr.ae/pGtnnb So damn low. I feel bad for the officers in my city, may be they need help. And mind you these numbers do not include the ridiculous amount of power differential Indian civil servants have with their western counterparts. And the social status differential.
Ram ji please kripa karo apne desh pe thodi to, saari sadbudhi satyug ke liye hi thi kya!
Just went through that buffoon Awdhesh Singh's answer trying to make a point that Indian Civil servants salaries are higher than their American counterparts adjusted for perks, CTC and PPP using some charts and calculations.
Anyone with basic arithmetic proficiency can see how he errs in his calculations in his answers. (How he arrives at 300000$ figure for top salary of Indian CS is mind boggling!?).
Anyway, it's laughable on part of such a seasoned bureaucrat to even think of such anomaly (in American and Indian Govt salaries) in first place, but he actually goes on and makes a buffoonery of himself making wrong calculations to justify his point.
Anyway, the debate here was not to justify corruption per se but to have a debate on aspects of it.
And no debate can take place unless you have two sides to put their arguments henceforth.
Inselberg,Just read the whole justifying corruption stuff and this is so fun. :D Trust me, I can't stop smiling. Someone mentioned salaries. Just throwing in some data from an ex civil servant about the LOW salaries of a Indian civil servant. https://qr.ae/pGtnnb So damn low. I feel bad for the officers in my city, may be they need help. And mind you these numbers do not include the ridiculous amount of power differential Indian civil servants have with their western counterparts. And the social status differential.
Ram ji please kripa karo apne desh pe thodi to, saari sadbudhi satyug ke liye hi thi kya!
There's another world bank report on Civil servants and wage differential all over the world, if someone wants to read more on this. The better part being it also comments on the difference in the efficiencies of civil servants in different countries. Now I should not start commenting on severe low efficiency of the government system but high salaries of Indian civil servants or I may be outcasted for putting a dent in the glory of the 2nd most valuable thing thing the british left for Indians. Mai baap ho saab aap hamare, kuch jyada keh diya ho to maaf karna!
It's useless trying to debate on core issues affecting every aspiring officer and society with the Neros singing their flutes of speckless orgasmic semblance of honesty while avalanche of corruption has been wrecking the kingdom for decades and wholly sullied the very ground they are standing on.
You shall be hung until death if you try Socratian didacticism or play the devil's advocate in order to reach the purer final truth because the moment you speak, your eyes shall be gouged out and tongues slit lest it disturbs our flute sessions.
:)
☮️
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/india-slips-6-spots-to-86th-rank-on-corruption-index/articleshow/80533471.cms
PS: We are a society of utter honests, we have absolutely honest aspirants, honest tax payers, honest common man but we don't understand yet how we transform into corrupts whenever we get some power or avenue be it in bureaucracy, politics, judiciary, business, etc. Batch after batch, year after year... the story doesn't change much. Heck, it's getting worse.
That's the mystery. But lest you speak...
D503,
Just read the whole justifying corruption stuff and this is so fun. :D Trust me, I can't stop smiling. Someone mentioned salaries. Just throwing in some data from an ex civil servant about the LOW salaries of a Indian civil servant. https://qr.ae/pGtnnb So damn low. I feel bad for the officers in my city, may be they need help. And mind you these numbers do not include the ridiculous amount of power differential Indian civil servants have with their western counterparts. And the social status differential.
Ram ji please kripa karo apne desh pe thodi to, saari sadbudhi satyug ke liye hi thi kya!
Just went through that buffoon Awdhesh Singh's answer trying to make a point that Indian Civil servants salaries are higher than their American counterparts adjusted for perks, CTC and PPP using some charts and calculations.
Anyone with basic arithmetic proficiency can see how he errs in his calculations in his answers. (How he arrives at 300000$ figure for top salary of Indian CS is mind boggling!?).
Anyway, it's laughable on part of such a seasoned bureaucrat to even think of such anomaly (in American and Indian Govt salaries) in first place, but he actually goes on and makes a buffoonery of himself making wrong calculations to justify his point.
Anyway, the debate here was not to justify corruption per se but to have a debate on aspects of it.
And no debate can take place unless you have two sides to put their arguments henceforth.
Are waah boss ab Awadesh buffon ho gaye, thodi der pehle tak to state ki legitimacy vagarah sambhal rahe the, chalo leave buffon to hai. This world bank study is also behaving similarly and adding an infographic from that study here. 
I hope people realise that deleted comments aren't that deleted
i dont believe you
@Johnny_Distracted I am genuinely curious about why you are deleting your username from the comments? It's not like it's your actual name. And everyone can clearly see it's you by replying to the comment.
If you genuinely want to delete them for whatever reason, you can choose to edit the comment and remove whatever you wrote.
TambourineMan,Dalinar
^^ a live examplesome people have a knack of writing so lyrically that i feel like being a devils advocate, just to piss them off, like sticking a tongue out. am i evil? dont you feel like doing the same simply out of spite somedays. a man helped a blind man reach his home. the blind man after taking help asked the good samaritan to leave coz suddenly he became afraid the Samaritan might be a thief and exploit the situation to steal something. well the the samaritan did steal something, not because he was evil but because something went off in his head on being shoen the door in such a rude manner. how many times crimes happen because of reasons like these
Na munna na..! You didn't help any blind man. The man simply decided to act blind and avoid the conversation because he was reminded about ALOK NATH's gyaan from the movie SKTKS.
It's useless trying to debate on core issues affecting every aspiring officer and society with the Neros singing their flutes of speckless orgasmic semblance of honesty while avalanche of corruption has been wrecking the kingdom for decades and wholly sullied the very ground they are standing on.
You shall be hung until death if you try Socratian didacticism or play the devil's advocate in order to reach the purer final truth because the moment you speak, your eyes shall be gouged out and tongues slit lest it disturbs our flute sessions.
:)
☮️
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/india-slips-6-spots-to-86th-rank-on-corruption-index/articleshow/80533471.cms
PS: We are a society of utter honests, we have absolutely honest aspirants, honest tax payers, honest common man but we don't understand yet how we transform into corrupts whenever we get some power or avenue be it in bureaucracy, politics, judiciary, business, etc. Batch after batch, year after year... the story doesn't change much. Heck, it's getting worse.
That's the mystery. But lest you speak...
There's a big difference between saying corruption exists in India and saying it's okay to be corrupt.
And an unavoidable downside of playing the devil's advocate is that people will not know if you're indeed a freethinking advocate in the noble pursuit of truth facing unjust eye gouging and what not, or the devil himself trying to make a "lil bit extra". I truly hope your comments were an indeed an attempt to understand the roots of corruption and you're not actually going to be corrupt yourself. :)
I can't stop myself from adding that Indian civil servants are not the only people who should be angry about absence ofpay paritywith those people in private sector like apple. Inke paas to job security bhi nahi hai bicharon ke paas. And I am sure the exam they give is tougher than CSE if we go by the number of aspirants and selections. 
It's useless trying to debate on core issues affecting every aspiring officer and society with the Neros singing their flutes of speckless orgasmic semblance of honesty while avalanche of corruption has been wrecking the kingdom for decades and wholly sullied the very ground they are standing on.
You shall be hung until death if you try Socratian didacticism or play the devil's advocate in order to reach the purer final truth because the moment you speak, your eyes shall be gouged out and tongues slit lest it disturbs our flute sessions.
:)
☮️
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/india-slips-6-spots-to-86th-rank-on-corruption-index/articleshow/80533471.cms
PS: We are a society of utter honests, we have absolutely honest aspirants, honest tax payers, honest common man but we don't understand yet how we transform into corrupts whenever we get some power or avenue be it in bureaucracy, politics, judiciary, business, etc. Batch after batch, year after year... the story doesn't change much. Heck, it's getting worse.
That's the mystery. But lest you speak...
.
AJ_,thepolicydreamer
Friends, just wanted to quickly plugin this interview of Mr Iqbal Singh Chahal, who is managing the Bombay Municipal Corporation right now, and is one of the reason for everything right (or wrong) happening in this city regarding covid.
Will urge to watch this interview.
For me, he seemed like an able adminstrator, a well prepared officer to face media scrutiny, and an inspiration to study little extra to convert that khayaali pulaao dreams into reality.
per capita gdp of korea 31k USD, for india its 2k USD. what this data points to is not indian civil servants being overpaid but general population being too poor aka inequality , as far as i can infer.Just read the whole justifying corruption stuff and this is so fun. :D Trust me, I can't stop smiling. Someone mentioned salaries. Just throwing in some data from an ex civil servant about the LOW salaries of a Indian civil servant. https://qr.ae/pGtnnb So damn low. I feel bad for the officers in my city, may be they need help. And mind you these numbers do not include the ridiculous amount of power differential Indian civil servants have with their western counterparts. And the social status differential.
Ram ji please kripa karo apne desh pe thodi to, saari sadbudhi satyug ke liye hi thi kya!
Just went through that buffoon Awdhesh Singh's answer trying to make a point that Indian Civil servants salaries are higher than their American counterparts adjusted for perks, CTC and PPP using some charts and calculations.
Anyone with basic arithmetic proficiency can see how he errs in his calculations in his answers. (How he arrives at 300000$ figure for top salary of Indian CS is mind boggling!?).
Anyway, it's laughable on part of such a seasoned bureaucrat to even think of such anomaly (in American and Indian Govt salaries) in first place, but he actually goes on and makes a buffoonery of himself making wrong calculations to justify his point.
Anyway, the debate here was not to justify corruption per se but to have a debate on aspects of it.
And no debate can take place unless you have two sides to put their arguments henceforth.
Are waah boss ab Awadesh buffon ho gaye, thodi der pehle tak to state ki legitimacy vagarah sambhal rahe the, chalo leave buffon to hai. This world bank study is also behaving similarly and adding an infographic from that study here.
In my understanding, The comparison has to be in the ratio right? My Family income with a family of 4 is one lakh rupees and elder brother gets 70k as pocket money. Rest all 3 get 10k. The ratio of elder brother's pocket money to family income is 7:10. My aunt in mumbai has a family income of 12 lakh rupees with family of 4. Elder brother their gets 3 lakhs as pocket money. The ratio of elder brother pocket money here to family income is 1:4. Now I cant' say that the my elder brother is not overpaid, its just my family being poor. One has to see things in context for every country to make it comparable. Please correct me if I am reading the data wrong.
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