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State definition :
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(b) A politically organized people of a definite territory and possessing an authority to govern them, maintain law and order, protect their natural rights and safeguard their means of sustenance
why not a
1. A Community (a nation can have to be a community but state can have many communities. ex Indian state , American state both have heterogeneous communities)
2. Permanently living from long time ( It is not required whether they are permanently living from long time or not for creating and maintaining state
For ex - Israel )
Baaki aur bhi hai a to hoga hi nahi.
why B
1. Politically organization ( State is political organization which may only come in existence by virtue of writ, decree or constitution... There can be different type of states but it is politically organized )
2. Definite territory ( yes .. mandatory because ..state is up to there up to where its writ being accepted by people in a territory . As per loose concept of nation can be in 2 or 3 states based om situation for ex Irish people. But nation state is where community and government both have same alignment )
3. Authority - Most basic and very important feature. There can ne no state without presence and exercise of authority.
4. rest of all are self explanatory
Source - Read ncert of poltical theory that is gold standard for this question. ok
Is dominion state not a state? Because it is not sovereign?
I marked b, thinking of this logic. 😅😅
I have not talk about sovereignty .. read again
dominian state have all features which B option provides.
The only difference is it does not have sovereignty.
Like british india - Can you say it satisfied any criteria given in all 4 options accept B.
In option B - Sovereignty is no where mentioned.
Even a Dominion state is politically organized have authority and a fix territory and have some duties and rights.
GOT8,kuch smjh nhi aaya kya kehna cha rhe ho XDA 32 is correct. The question is about when *subject matter of legislation is itself overarching*
A14- It is about application of law per se. Second , The subject matter can be challenged on the ground of irrational classification.
A32 - Subject matter of any law which violates any FR can be challenged under it.
In the statement *discretion to the administrator and unlimited power to bureaucrat* tramples on right to freedom , right to equality or any FR per se because if Administrator has unregulated descretion in decision making - He is ready to make decision legally which ay hamper any FR.
So, Impact analysis of such law tells that - The problem is in subject matter of law which may led to violation of any FR due to any irrational decision coming out of administratorial descretion.
So , It is Article 32.
Answer uska Article -14 haiArticle 32 is not constraining Administrators , it's just a tool to operationalise the Rights and gives them teeth. Article 32 is violated when Parliament takes away Judicial Review powers, not when administrators act arbitrarily. Discretion = Arbitrariness = unequal application of law= no equality before law or equal protection of law.
Go and read chapter on FR of Constitution at work NCERT. You will figure it out.
Dont refer laxmi basu or any xyz coaching. You will get more confused.
also, If you read newspapers daily and focused on court decisions during corona time where administration got tremendous descretionary power ... court came to rescue (it is the source of this question)
@gauravbrly409 true..Maharashtra is a state but its not sovereign
Are Baba ... what u r saying do u know .. what u just said.
In constitution state as per federal -- province. Its not what question asked.
Bhai state ka defn poocha tha. State, nation and nation state ... waha se ye question aaya hai.
Are you really preparing for upsc !!
GOT8,
Kurdish people have authority, they administer their own laws, protect their people, they have inhabited those lands for years yet Kurdistan is not a state . why ?State definition :
answrr -
(b) A politically organized people of a definite territory and possessing an authority to govern them, maintain law and order, protect their natural rights and safeguard their means of sustenance
why not a
1. A Community (a nation can have to be a community but state can have many communities. ex Indian state , American state both have heterogeneous communities)
2. Permanently living from long time ( It is not required whether they are permanently living from long time or not for creating and maintaining state
For ex - Israel )
Baaki aur bhi hai a to hoga hi nahi.
why B
1. Politically organization ( State is political organization which may only come in existence by virtue of writ, decree or constitution... There can be different type of states but it is politically organized )
2. Definite territory ( yes .. mandatory because ..state is up to there up to where its writ being accepted by people in a territory . As per loose concept of nation can be in 2 or 3 states based om situation for ex Irish people. But nation state is where community and government both have same alignment )
3. Authority - Most basic and very important feature. There can ne no state without presence and exercise of authority.
4. rest of all are self explanatory
Source - Read ncert of poltical theory that is gold standard for this question. ok
@gauravbrly409 in political theory , possessing an authority to govern also implies that sovereignty which implied in option B
UPSC care about implied ????
UPSC dont imply. ok.
Aise to 100 to 100 question have all 4 option right by one or other way. You have to choose most correct.
So can you tell me any other option which is very closely correct to absolute definition of state other than B ?
gauravbrly409,» show previous quotesKurdish people have authority, they administer their own laws, protect their people, they have inhabited those lands for years yet Kurdistan is not a state . why ?
Because it is not recognized by international community. But they possess features of state
Have you heard the term *Missing state* when we read news about Maoist areas ??
@gauravbrly409 don't get emotional .do not get personal.here discussion is going on ,no one is authority here. Diversity of opinions is more important than being hitler of knowledge.
Its open debate mate. Carry it on.
Philip_Marlowe,
State definition :
answrr -
(b) A politically organized people of a definite territory and possessing an authority to govern them, maintain law and order, protect their natural rights and safeguard their means of sustenance
why not a
1. A Community (a nation can have to be a community but state can have many communities. ex Indian state , American state both have heterogeneous communities)
2. Permanently living from long time ( It is not required whether they are permanently living from long time or not for creating and maintaining state
For ex - Israel )
Baaki aur bhi hai a to hoga hi nahi.
why B
1. Politically organization ( State is political organization which may only come in existence by virtue of writ, decree or constitution... There can be different type of states but it is politically organized )
2. Definite territory ( yes .. mandatory because ..state is up to there up to where its writ being accepted by people in a territory . As per loose concept of nation can be in 2 or 3 states based om situation for ex Irish people. But nation state is where community and government both have same alignment )
3. Authority - Most basic and very important feature. There can ne no state without presence and exercise of authority.
4. rest of all are self explanatory
Source - Read ncert of poltical theory that is gold standard for this question. ok
Even I found opt B more correct and marked it as ans. But thn Shubhra Ranjan eliminated this opt bcuz of the term "natural rights". Also Psir ppl are referring to some Montevideo declaration.
mat lado guys direct sources se pick karti hai upsc khud ke discretion mai kuch nai banati.... art 14 correct hai state ka A hai and satluj most probable hai answer sab ka verbatim source mil rha hai internet pe.... still in sab ko negative le k score calculate karlo
cut off prediction: insight 89-91, vision-90 hardworking human 91+- 2 isse upar hai toh mains ka prepare kar lo kyuki khali pre clear kar ke koi faida nai hai chakravyuh mai...serious candidates are already clocking 14-15 hrs..baki dkh lo
Bhaiyon...aapka answer wrong hai iska maltb yeah nahi ki aap puri duniya hila doge usko sahi batane ke liye.
Ab sun lo aap sabhi apne ears "open karke".
Article 14 is the right answer.Ek baar text padho article 14 ka doston. Usme 'law' mentioned hai.
State ki definition mei A option correct hai.
State ke paas sovereignty nahi toh woh state nahi (Option A-independent of external control). Kurdistan ke paas sovereignty nahi hai. Hong Kong ke paas bhi nahi hai. Dono mei Natural right hain par wohstate nahi hain mitron.
Aap sabhi apna chirkut material dikhate rahiye. Silent majority nahi manegi.
raymond_reddington,Bhaiyon...aapka answer wrong hai iska maltb yeah nahi ki aap puri duniya hila doge usko sahi batane ke liye.
Ab sun lo aap sabhi apne ears "open karke".
Article 14 is the right answer.Ek baar text padho article 14 ka doston. Usme 'law' mentioned hai.
State ki definition mei A option correct hai.
State ke paas sovereignty nahi toh woh state nahi (Option A-independent of external control). Kurdistan ke paas sovereignty nahi hai. Hong Kong ke paas bhi nahi hai. Dono mei Natural right hain par wohstate nahi hain mitron.
Aap sabhi apna chirkut material dikhate rahiye. Silent majority nahi manegi.
As u brought Hongkong in picture , Just a simple Google search. There are two types of states .. sovereign and non sovereign states.
Sovereignty and state are two individual concepts. when a state is devoid of any external control -It is know as A sovereign state.
Another note - India was a Dominian state till 1950.. than it became sovereign state. However, It was always the STATE.
@gauravbrly409 in political theory , possessing an authority to govern also implies that sovereignty which is implied in option B
No it doesn't imply by any means.
plmokn25688524,Bhaiyon...aapka answer wrong hai iska maltb yeah nahi ki aap puri duniya hila doge usko sahi batane ke liye.
Ab sun lo aap sabhi apne ears "open karke".
Article 14 is the right answer.Ek baar text padho article 14 ka doston. Usme 'law' mentioned hai.
State ki definition mei A option correct hai.
State ke paas sovereignty nahi toh woh state nahi (Option A-independent of external control). Kurdistan ke paas sovereignty nahi hai. Hong Kong ke paas bhi nahi hai. Dono mei Natural right hain par wohstate nahi hain mitron.
Aap sabhi apna chirkut material dikhate rahiye. Silent majority nahi manegi.
As u brought Hongkong in picture , Just a simple Google search. There are two types of states .. sovereign and non sovereign states.
Sovereignty and state are two individual concepts. when a state is devoid of any external control -It is know as A sovereign state.
Another note - India was a Dominian state till 1950.. than it became sovereign state. However, It was always the STATE.
Subhra Ranjan .. Got leg before wicket by UPSC. She need tp step up.
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