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Because of the corona virus issue? If it does not happen then worst affected will be people whose interview is stuck, around 600-700 such people I think are yet to appear for their interview.


@neyawn sir and others, what is your take?

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Can someone please share those original passages which some great soul compiled. I am on mobile so it is taking a lot to scroll through previous 80-100 pages.


TIA

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@rafael Bro actually in some states all transgender persons are given free legal aid,they won't be treated as general rather as special category, in that case it won't matter whether they earn a lakh or 2. In that scenario the broader statement of them getting free legal services with annual income less than 2 lakh stands correct.
The income limit of 2 lakh or 3 lakh what u r talking about in different states ofcourse means that even a person having 1.5 lakh is eligible in some states which is contradictory to statement 1 but that doesn't make a person earning less than 1 lakh ineligible in any case


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So I was just telling in my previous answers lets present the scenario that seems much logical to upsc though what u r saying is also correct...At the end of the day cancel hona is what is more important ๐Ÿ˜‚

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@rafael Bro actually in some states all transgender persons are given free legal aid,they won't be treated as general rather as special category, in that case it won't matter whether they earn a lakh or 2. In that scenario the broader statement of them getting free legal services with annual income less than 2 lakh stands correct.
The income limit of 2 lakh or 3 lakh what u r talking about in different states ofcourse means that even a person having 1.5 lakh is eligible in some states which is contradictory to statement 1 but that doesn't make a person earning less than 1 lakh ineligible in any case


There are 18 states in india whose income limit is 1lakh or 1lakh 50k or 15k .... above this limit is not allowed for free legal aid even if it is less than 2lakh..    how 2lakh limit apply on them ?  U r nt getting it r u ? 

Equalizer,
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Bhai log koi finally Bata do sahi answer for T BILL AND NALSA MATLAB KI MOST PROBABLE ANSWER KA H BCOZ YE COACHING WAALE R GIVING U D ANSWER WITHOUT ANY LOGIC IM REALLY CONFUSED I HAVE MARKED 3 and 1 -4 AGR ye sahi hote to I will cross 100 mark after considering all doubtful as wrong
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I think Upsc will not delete Gandhi Irwin question because it has already mentioned in case of repungnancy or error in translation, English language will prevail.
SUDHIR_MISHRA,Aspirant123and1 otherslike this
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@Adi_das treasury bill most probably 3 only but not sure about NALSA question, take it as wrong only


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Byju economics ke ans alag level or Khel Raha hai
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Correct.. 2019 key me 9 Different hai sankar ke UPSC official key se.

And .. Nobody is reputed ... because .. all are more or less same.  Good for static but .. No institute cam figure out or teach dynamic syllabus properly. .. and so is the answer key.

Aur .. aaj kal I doubt static knowledge of institutes too. 

Sankar made a mark by Environment material though. That book is really great. But , I would say ...There is no permanency in reputation. Teachers change, MANAGEMENT changes.. institute culture changes and so be the reputation changes and falls many a times. 

Agreed ....there was a time ( when gs 1 of prelims was less important and people used to qualify pre with csat) when static portion was given a lot of importance because to write good answers you are required  to be rock solid with static knowledge.Then ,came 2016 prelims paper .A complete current affairs oriented paper .From there on coachings made a paradigm shift in their approach .Every Tom ,Dick ,Harry scheme of government has become a topic of detailed discussion. Craze of current affairs has reached to a level that in the last couple of months of preparation (before the exam )students read only current affairs and government schemes .Basic books like NCERT ,spectrum and Lakshmikant are not even touched .Coachings having realised this demand and are busy pumping in more and more current affairs.Meanwhile ,focus on developing good static content and updating it with time is ignored .

And .. I am really sick of .. Lot of institutes who proliferated under the disguise of teachIng Current Affairs .. become a ful fledged IAS academy... teaching everything up to interview .. and with questionable intents. 

For ex :

last minute offer .. 200 schemes 500 Rs. 

International org. all in 3 hours 1100 Rs 

etc etc.

Barbaad to inhone kara hai baccho ko. Its like a chaat shop now ..  You can pick and choose ingredients as per will. and so on so forth. 

But, This year paper(even hint was there from 2017) ki .. ye Nahi chalega... Properly pad ke aao to hi ache marks aayenge. 

Anyway... Free country. 

The blame should be equally shouldered by irresponsible megalomaniacs who once they see themselves in the list will take money from such institutes to sell "hacks" in the name of crash course and be inspiring junta to do more mocks religiously in their pep talks.

If the only selling pitch the coachings have is to show those 20 25 questions (that anyone could have done reading laxmikanth, and even after that giving wrong answers, as in preamble and minister one) then they should hang their heads in shame.

The ROI of doing mocks is tbh pretty poor. Rather do PYQ to get feel of such things like marking D in snt. 


Same goes for mains. You are the content differential. Everyone will write mains 365. But go the extra mile and get better content. It does get rewarded. Not so much in gs, but in essays and optional, its the game changer.


Lastly. And very importantly. The whole fear regarding prelims is much less for IFOS bunch. I mean a guy preparing for ifos almost always has a 8 10 mark edge over a civilguy. Upsc since 2017 has very very sincerely made a paper where at least some questions will give ifos people privilege. Things just took a nasty bend this year. The fact that a civil guy has to know nasty little known facts about forests, and ecology, which aren't even gonna be anywhere in his domain, is pretty much laughable.


Also, if you think next year se hum agri ka booklet padhke jaenge, wait before UPSC makes some SEBI/RBIesque paper ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ

Actually... 

As far as I know from all questions and my preparation 

1. Except few question (almost 15) all question can be answered from static studies of regular books+NCERT.

2. Regular reading of newspaper is more important ... though monthly magazine and compilation has its purpose. But , The questions were asked in such manner which require like ... If somebody is reading newspaper and living with exam .. could be answered very easily. 

3. We did not expected paper like this... So, Performance gone down. That's the only reason. Nothing is out of resources though except few. 

But, It can never be said that the regular holistic way of studying only regular books , newspaper and one of good magazine is not sufficient to attempt 80 to 90 questions in this exam. The regular holistic mode of preparation is remain what is required. 

Also, Repeating guys(some freshers too if they got free money) fall more in to trap of 3 minute study shops and 10 min unacademy videos . But, In totality, Things remains same ... Holistic study and thorough understanding of syllabus and current events is crux . Compilations lost value because UPSC pre is again going analytical like old days ... and left its flavour of asking pointed current(as from 2011 to 2016 to 18) . For ex - During preparation ... People do not debate on concepts now a days(that is post prelim work)โ˜บ๏ธ, Before that , We believe whatever we have read we have clear concepts.. But actually .. even on simple polity things .. we are not able to drive single absolute answer for few questions. 

Just my personal opinion. 




Botanopu,
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Can someone please share those original passages which some great soul compiled. I am on mobile so it is taking a lot to scroll through previous 80-100 pages.


TIA

https://forumias.com/post/detail/Prelims-Postponement-What-are-the-chances-of-Prelims-being-postponed-1585935026?page=438

GravityShades,
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Byju economics ke ans alag level or Khel Raha hai

Sharukh Factor .... !!

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Which is the most reliable key for csat passages?

Go through Shankarias & Rausias key


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Just an opinion

Read this-- "Automated storytelling is a process involving the use of artificial intelligence (AI) to create written stories. Although automated storytelling isfar away from being able to construct genuinely creativeand insightful novels, the process has been steadily improving to handle basic applications."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/searchenterpriseai.techtarget.com/definition/automated-storytelling%3famp=1

The article  is from 2019.Not very old.

I think a lot of people  r confusing  with AI 
Music and AI song.It is easy to create AI generated  music but difficult  to create song

In the AI question-it asked meaningful  short stories  and songs.

2016 Daddy's  car  a song by AI It says

The songs also still require professional mixing and mastering, as the Flow Machines software doesn't yet have the capability to produce that itself.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.www.complex.com/music/2016/09/artificial-intelligence-new-song-daddys-car


The latest AI music generator  is Jukebox 

Launched in 2020

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenextweb.com/neural/2020/04/30/this-ai-creates-entire-songs-complete-with-music-lyrics-and-vocals/amp/

But after reading  it I found-It lacks the prowess to follow basic music structure. Youโ€™ll notice there arenโ€™t any repeating hooks or lyrical bridges.Unfortunately, you canโ€™t get Jukebox to generate new music just yet.

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Just an opinion

Read this-- "Automated storytelling is a process involving the use of artificial intelligence (AI) to create written stories. Although automated storytelling isfar away from being able to construct genuinely creativeand insightful novels, the process has been steadily improving to handle basic applications."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/searchenterpriseai.techtarget.com/definition/automated-storytelling%3famp=1

The article  is from 2019.Not very old.

I think a lot of people  r confusing  with AI 
Music and AI song.It is easy to create AI generated  music but difficult  to create song

In the AI question-it asked meaningful  short stories  and songs.

2016 Daddy's  car  a song by AI It says

The songs also still require professional mixing and mastering, as the Flow Machines software doesn't yet have the capability to produce that itself.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.www.complex.com/music/2016/09/artificial-intelligence-new-song-daddys-car


The latest AI music generator  is Jukebox 

Launched in 2020

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenextweb.com/neural/2020/04/30/this-ai-creates-entire-songs-complete-with-music-lyrics-and-vocals/amp/

But after reading  it I found-It lacks the prowess to follow basic music structure. Youโ€™ll notice there arenโ€™t any repeating hooks or lyrical bridges.Unfortunately, you canโ€™t get Jukebox to generate new music just yet.

Tension mat lo. Do statement wrong hai .. meaningful story and wireless transmission. 

Chill and enjoy. Mains ka pado. 

Aspirant123,rishi258
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Bhai log ye NALSA KI SITE PE NOWHERE IT MENTIONS ABOUT TRANSGENDER THOUGH IT MENTIONS ABOUT SENIOR CITIZENS
SUDHIR_MISHRA,Devanapiyam
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@Adi_das  The only disputed questions imo are TBill, Preamble and AI.. rest everyone is making a meal out of it. Theres an outside chance ki 1-2 other answers can Surprise you but thats it.

Idhar people were desperate to prove even desukar wrong ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚. Then science and tech ka to baat hi kya.

i myself have the second best answer to nalsa (d) judicial review (d) aadhar ( c) but they are wrong...

so if you are 93+ after leaving the 3 questions which I mentioned previously, theres a 90% probability you are writing mains.. 100% koi nai bol sakta


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@gauravbrly409  ye konsa factor hai bhai 


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For that eligible to vote can be made a minister question, SC has given guidelines long back (2001) in Jayalalitha case. Pasting from an article in The Hindu

As a general rule, a person can become a Minister only if he is a member of the Legislative Assembly or the Legislative Council. Article 164(4) states that a person cannot continue as Minister for more than six months if he is not a member of the legislature by that period.


 

Eligible MLA first, Minister later


Ms. Jayalalithaa filed nominations for four constituencies for the Tamil Nadu Assembly elections. On April 24, 2001, three of these nominations were rejected on account of her conviction in the TANSI case and consequent disqualification under Section 8(3) of the Representation of the People Act, 1951. The fourth nomination was rejected on the ground that she had filed her nomination for more than two seats. The rejection of her nomination papers had not been challenged by Ms. Jayalalithaa.

After the elections, she was unanimously elected the leader of the party and was sworn in Chief Minister on May 14, 2001. At that time, there was a suggestion that she should not occupy the Chief Minister's office until her appeals were disposed of and she is either acquitted or the sentence reduced to less than two years. She insisted that the mandate of the people was that she should become the Chief Minister. Had she shown a dignified restraint, a healthy convention would have been set.

Article 173 prescribes qualifications for the membership of any State legislature. Briefly, a potential candidate must be at least 25 years of age (30 for the Legislative Council), a citizen of India and must possess such other qualifications as prescribed under any law by Parliament. Article 191 sets out the disqualifications and these are: holding office of profit with the Government of India or any State Government, being of unsound mind, an undischarged insolvent, a foreigner, and, lastly, any disqualification under any law made by Parliament. Ms. Jayalalithaa's case was concerned with disqualification under Section 8(3) of the Representation of the People Act, 1951. With her conviction and two-year sentence, Ms. Jayalalithaa's election nomination papers were rejected. The fact that her appeals were pending and the sentence suspended made no difference. Thus, she could not contest the election and become a member of the Legislative Assembly.

As a general rule, a person can become a Minister only if he is a member of the Legislative Assembly or the Legislative Council. Article 164(4) states that a person cannot continue as Minister for more than six months if he is not a member of the legislature by that period. Ms. Jayalalithaa became Chief Minister on May 14. Her anxiety to get her appeal disposed of was in the hope that if she was acquitted, she could contest a by-election and become a member of the Legislative Assembly on or before November 14, 2001. At the same time, the larger issue that came up for consideration before the Supreme Court was whether a person who is not eligible to stand for election could be appointed as Minister at all. Article 164(4) is completely silent on this issue.

While the Constitution provides for qualification and disqualification for membership to the Assembly, there is no provision as to any qualification or disqualification for a person to be appointed a Minister. This constitutional vacuum has now been filled up by the Supreme Court.

Article 164(4) has now been given a novel interpretation. Hereafter, a non-member of the legislature can be made Chief Minister or Minister only if he has the qualifications prescribed by Article 173 and does not suffer any disqualification as set out in Article 191. Consequently, unless a person is theoretically eligible to be a member of the Legislative Assembly, he cannot be appointed a Minister.

https://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-miscellaneous/tp-others/eligible-mla-first-minister-later/article27980109.ece


Amonga,hashtag2020
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@Adi_das  The only disputed questions imo are TBill, Preamble and AI.. rest everyone is making a meal out of it. Theres an outside chance ki 1-2 other answers can Surprise you but thats it.

Idhar people were desperate to prove even desukar wrong ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚. Then science and tech ka to baat hi kya.

i myself have the second best answer to nalsa (d) judicial review (d) aadhar ( c) but they are wrong...

so if you are 93+ after leaving the 3 questions which I mentioned previously, theres a 90% probability you are writing mains.. 100% koi nai bol sakta


Preamble is not even in doubt. Only those who have marked A are hopelessly trying to make it controversial

Devanapiyam,
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