@Kira0705I dont think it required both sides in the answer as the question asked which one is better and justify my view...
But i m not sure if am right. Anyone kindly enlighten me on this. this is my first mains
@RealMangoMe!!.
Didnt do well, had started preparing from Jan 2019.
So was very well underprepared. Focused on paper 1 for most of the time. Had done okayish in Paper 1. Was able to attempt 220 marks
Paper 2 - I neglected 1947-91 part due to paucity of time and thought with budget,Eco Survey and current events I would just bare thru. But alas.
So no hopes
@kochikaameDid you opt for any test series ? Dont have any background in econ at all except for couple of electives I took in engineering. Solely took this optional out of interest. But I took coaching from Vibhas sir.
I feel the guidance part is lacking in the mkt. Would be glad if you could shed light on how did you practice and have you given mains before. Others kindly chip in if you have any other ideas.
Paper 1 I had done okay to some extent. Was able to understand and comprehend models well. Just requires practice. But due to horror Paper 2, thinking to change optional. Felt ashamed tbh.
@RealMangosaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
@visionmanhaha even I took classes from vibhas sir. Realised his notes were not enough at all
Yea Paper 2 me kuch zyada cover nahi kiya.
Paper 1 mein thoda theek kiya except Development part
@kochikaameYea time taking tha plus i was shocked to see that mathematical question. Did you give mains before ?
@kochikaamesaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
I don't know if it's because of preparation making me more knowledgeable or is it because I've become less emotional in general.
Exactly what i thought. These protests serve as a valve where people can pour out their frustrations of the current political system. Apparently they think this is a participative democracy. I am sure some of them would'nt even have voted in their lifetime. So this is a easy way to do their part which I think is highly dangerous as there are no constructive debates and further discourages genuine citizens who do their part and to say the least, govt junks most of them as politically motivated ideas.
After waiting for results for so many days, it is getting clearer that the result would be announced only after 16th Jan due to this EWS case in CAT. Sigh... Talk about efficiency. (I am only assuming this and there could be other reasons as well)
Surely this personal experience regarding the delay which is agonizing can only make us understand and relate to on how many years of growth, development projects , citizens welfare have been stunted/slowed down to a large extent due to court cases.
This needs to be kept in mind when we become civil servants and ensure that we don't indulge in mindless litigation while not ignoring genuine grievances.
When i took a plunge towards this exam, I had kept in mind the need for patience to do well. I felt I had a decent amount of this virtue (or so did I thought). But now I am really questioning myself whether I really have it in me to do well.
This is my first attempt and there are still a few topics yet to cover in my optional and GS. So I thought I could finish them off during Nov-Dec, taking a month break after Mains. But could only finish 30% of my target and it has been really unproductive since then.
So anyone especially senior players kindly shed light on this based on your experience. Is this ever normal at all and how to tackle this.
I felt quite envious of those who haven't written mains this year as they are well prepared to tackle the exam next year with no disruptions while we wait here and unclear about what to do next. God forbid if we dont clear this exam till the final stage, its going to be bit difficult for us, with the gap between final results and prelims exam becoming lesser with each passing day
@kochikaamesaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
I am insisting on giving the exam this time because every attempt is an experience. Even if you clear prelims and are underprepared for mains, you'll give your best in those 3.5 months in between. The learning from this attempt would help a lot next time. Also, you've taken coaching and by giving one more month to optional, I guess it would be manageable ya atleast 1-2 mahina prelims aur mains ke beech mein lagaakar ho jaayega.
Exactly...I thought to skip prelims coz I was underprepared for Mains wrt optional, but my mentor told me to just simply attempt. So once i cleared Prelims, those 3-4 months was the best period as I was more devoted, focused and serious during this time. Even if I dont clear mains, this experience will greatly help me for the next attempt
@Dreadful-- Macha, even UPSC doesnt know when it would publish the results. So no point in criticizing them. Its not like any other exam where they would face lesser objections. This organization has to face various obstacles from all sides while conducting one of the toughest exams to recruit the cream of the top and still has to maintain the same level of standards . Cut them some slack.
I am sure it is definitely not in their interests to delay and would try to understand the sufferings of the aspirants unlike State PSCs
@Dreadfulsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
If Indian Railways, Delhi metro can communicate to its clientele about possible delay despite running such large rail network with so many uncertainties, y can't UPSC inform aspirants about delay ???
See i completely share your frustrations about this delay. Even I am too.
But honestly we cant do anything about it. Its very easy to blame others without standing on their shoes. There must be something which we dont know the reasons for delay.
They havent announced the tentative date to publish results, so they are well within their rights to publish them at their discretion. Yes, if we go by convention it is late. PS: Those examples you have mentioned, they are not a constitutional body plus users pay them to do their job so they are bound to be transparent and demand for better quality of services(and I m guessing its there in Citizens Charter as well).
UPSC is a constitutional body and charge very nominal amount to conduct exams. Compare with the fees of other exams (CAT exam costs you Rs 2000). They are not forcing you to write this exam nor you can demand them for better services.
I know exam fees is not the correct yardstick to compare but the point I am trying to make is "UPSC ko ghanta farak padta" no matter how much we crib. They are not at all answerable to anyone.
@kochikaameBang on bro/sis ! You could further extend this to an ideology - communism or socialism or capitalism. I always believe there is no one size fits all approach. It is very dangerous to apply the whole concept to a solution for every problem. For solving any issue requires a solution for that particular context thru communities backed and evidence based policymaking not ideology (at best it can remain only a guide during a dilemma and serve as a moral compass). Blindly adopting an ideology by the govt (includes political thought)for every situation and citizens/journalists viewing from one is not only harming the society but widens the fault lines among everyone, even the neutral ones.
The moment I step on Twitter, FB et all, I dont know which side is right and which side is evil, (Side A says something, my brain says ok Side B is responsible. After sometime scrolling thru posts, there is an equally compelling argument -now brain says ok, Side A is a culprit).After going thru all this, I m even thinking is anything even real except the injury part. Such negativity since past few weeks and there is no end to this.
And the real sufferers are rural farmers, poor migrants in an enclosed shanty(who knows fire might start early morning), women, SC/STs and Divyangs(I am one and suffered discrimination and inaccessibility almost everywhere). No one is talking about them at all. These current issues do not serve any purpose to the country. Sorry to digress from this, but just makes me fill with so much negativity that I dont know what real purpose does it serve by me being a civil servant.
Dont want to sound idealistic but lets take a pledge that everyone here becomes aware of the real issues(I m sure you are) and not digress to these things. Let us become a very concerned voter , become aware of issues all around and educate others as well at the same time. Hope the sanity prevails among the responsible ones.
PS: My heart goes out to those students who are apolitical and wanted to start a good career but getting destroyed and injured with this, is truly shaming irrespective of any ideology.
@DKTBro, I completely agree with you regarding the need to have the integrity the civil servants must posses.
But i just want to point out that the example that you have mentioned, "Ronanki Gopalakrishna" is an example of frivolous case. The petitioner in question got over enthusiastic and had no grounds to challenge the claim. Ronanki sir had replied to this notice and case ended there itself.
This is a classic case of envious relatives/friends wanting to get back at him. But the damage has been done, now whenever someone typed fake certificates his is the first to crop up in search engines. His image got maligned already. My friend personally knows him and can vouch for this. But yes I agree that there are lots of undeserved ones applying for fake certificates and they must be barred from attending future exams.
@ChampakWould mentioning jogging/running in my hobby find favor with the panel.I do 5k run every alternate days and it is like a meditation. The reason i tagged you is from your interactions with other candidates and being a senior player ,did anyone mention the same in their DAF? Many advise against it since they say it is not a hobby
Verdict to come on Monday ie 13th Jan
Causelist came2020-01-13.pdf
Things we do just to get info on result. Never would I have thought that I would personally go to CAT website and check there. But definitely did learn some things though. I was not aware that there is such thing where non party can see case history in online as well as future timetable for other cases.
@TeddyWestsideYeah but depends on whether the verdict is favorable for the commission. Otherwise might get delayed as they would want to appeal in HC. Hopefully nothing like that happens.
@kochikaameSame here. Do let me know what have you decided and your viewpoints after having discussed with others. Its very difficult to come to a conclusion. More importantly its even tougher to justify in Personality Test. Only one point which I can justify is the affinity towards International Trade in Eco Paper-1. That is absolutely my favorite part.
Can anyone shed light on impact of choosing IFS over IAS on PT marks.
All in all this is a wishful thinking from me to even clear mains. Only hope remains
@Hermione_Granger Exactly. r/india can be labelled as not too extreme left. Have even witnessed from some users supporting Capitalism. At least they agree communism is largely dangerous for India or any other country for that matter.
Would call them as selectively leftists. Completely against Modi but support the underlying principles behind his economic policies.
@kochikaamer/indiaspeaks thread posts reeks of hypocricy. Preaches dissent and freedom of expression is good but found wanting on their actions,
@AzadHindFauzOh no.. Now this will mean we have to track this case again in HC. Like, is it in the tomorrow's cause list , date of hearings, final verdict time.. And who knows next is SC. Oh come on. Really getting on my nerves. We'd rather study Judiciary system for the prelims exam like this than referring to Laxmikanth
@deceptrixsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:
Everyone, please keep your senses open to understand what is fake and what's not. Wait for sometime, clouds would soon be cleared and we will get the results.
Touche..But the level of patience that has been questioned this time is beyond anyone's guess. Emotions need to be kept in check even in such moments(Mere advice to myself). Anyhow selected candidates from this exam would be better prepared to manage the impending riots and societal violence in future
