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how to proceed with insights secure compilation ?

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would it be advisable to skip writing conclusion in 10 markers ?

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has civils daily 100 mains question arrived n the market ? if not, when can it be expected .

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@K_9said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@John_TitorAre vision 365 modules enough to cover paper 2 paper 3 or do we need to revise monthly booklets too?

so far current affairs are concerned the booklets cover most of the things but there are few topics in syllabus for which you will have to refer online resources or vision value added material for ex- voluntary sector, cropping pattern etc . Also , try to make notes out of the 365 atleast for the GS3 ,because as exam approaches you will find 365 intolerable due to information overload?

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@K_9said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminionBakwaas hai sab. It is impossible to maintain quantity as well as quality is all of 20 questions. I saw copies of rank 20 and rank 16 last year. Hardly any diagrams. Simple point wise answers with intro and conclusion.

rank 14 also . very simple and to the point, nothing extraordinary.

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@ManchesterUnitedsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@ashutoshkulkarn820Exactly!But question starts with,can amendment power be unlimited
So that part is to be addressed

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this was what they were asking, but I wrote total crap in every question, despite revising numerous time

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they are asking anything and everything

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cutoff prediction

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@Caesarsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@John_Titorpol Sc?

ya bro, paper 2 mai lag gya?

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who else felt personally attacked by work worship translation qsn in hindi compulsory?

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@Kira0705said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@nikhilit20112751 kya bhai aap pre k time p itna morale
Boost kiye the ab papers easy bol k mood down Kar diye?

760s se above nhi jayega?

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@Phagocytesaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Do we have cultural pockets of small India all over the nation? Elaborate with examples

Let me know your approach on this too.

I simply understood it as a question on cultural diversity and went about how there indeed are smaller microcosms of society based on factors of ethnicity, region, language etc. Gave examples. And finally added a point on how the small Indias are indeed a part and parcel of the whole.

I am afraid I addressed it in extremely simplistic way

bihar migrants in Punjab,kerala, bangalore and hyderabad software industry where people from north and south work, effect of programs n TV leading to popularity of gansesha festival even in north india
i wrote on these lines

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@Phagocytesaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@John_TitorOh, but this seems more on cosmopolitanism isn't it?

i interpreted it as pockets where national diversity is getting reflected at a small scale and not just regional varieties. Jese china owns hote hai like that indian towns within India

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that group is cancer of upsc?

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@corrigible_87said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@Phagocytei approached giving examples of pockets of diversity of cultures like cantonements, metropolitans, corporate offices, government offices etc etc

awesome even forumias could be an example of mini India?, qsn is not asking about various cultures existing in india, it's asking about examples where these cultures intermingle with each other thus forming a mini india.

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free will is a myth
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@STsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminionyehi ki machhli jal ki rani hain, jeewan uska paani hain.?

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@dancingminionsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Guys, what did you write in this question - "What are the continued challenges for women in India against time and space?" (GS1)

divided into heads- space : workspace, household, public place, and listed the problems thereof
time : new woman problems, trafficking , son meta and missing woman, domestic violence etc
some points were repetitive though

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moooo
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band kro atyachaar ab?

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@Minimumwagesaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Pick up a novel haha@Raja123

what do you suggest

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tej bahadur likha kya kisi ne

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popcorn time?

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@Yes_I_am_insaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@sat_009arey bhai...share kar do marksheet...itna bhi kya darna...iss baar to aap select ho

result kab hai

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daw softwares are getting crazier
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jaane bhi do yaaro have some LOLs
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popeye and winfry
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beta kya hai ab. how is it different from quest

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Enter the Georgeverse and forget about mains till results?

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@paranthapijjasaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@John_TitorFor all the great physical comedy prowess of richards and general funniness of Jerry, I personally think essence of Seinfeld is George. He made awkwardness, laziness and insecurity funny again.

during reading this I felt like I was hearing to Patrick Bateman talking about Phil Collins?

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@paranthapijjasaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@John_TitorShameful. They are attacking litigants, media and random pedestrians. Is it just more social media coverage or has lumpenism in all walks of life burgeoned over the course of last few years.

I infer it's kind of both. The ubiquitous presence of camera and internet has meant that now every slightest bit of disturbance has the potential of getting reported, at the same time people have also become more violent due to the demonstration effect of social media; thus creating a vicious cycle of reporting of crime spurring even more crime imho.

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@DKTsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@Chanakya
Put yourself in place of ARMYMAN who is in duty at border and , or put urself in place of family members of those who lost their lives during parliyament attack. These JNU liberal were celebrating terrorist barsi. Democracy hai Tabhi ghoom rahe hai seena chauda karke, agar ye log Saudi Arabia me hote tab pata chalta ( Jamal khasogi ).

fun fact : Jamal khassogi was located using the same Pegasus malware that was being used to monitor some activists here by powers that be?

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CAT is working independently now, isme kya likha aap logo ne

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@ranyo_asokasaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@John_Titorbakwas likha hun.. article number 323A and adminitrTive tribunal act gives its appeal to SC difectly..SC judgement making appeals to high courts thereby curbing its powers...then since it works on natural justice principles , it sometimes exceeds the established codes..generic point like imposing restriction on govt and suo motu directives... then some generic conclusion .... 3 mark bhi mile kaafi hai

I wrote just 323A and chandrakumar case and added layer of scrutiny but couldn't link things , jyada points nhi mile iske , tough qsn laga mujhe

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GS2 dekh kar haath paon fool rh

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Unless lateral entry means recruiting technical specialists and not mere MBA shampoo sellers , I all for it?

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liars and sycophants
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#bakar
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@vvvikas0078212said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@ajit_kdNationalism wasn't asked in question. Question talked about national movement, which is basically Gandhian struggle for freedom.

toh shi ha na Young Muslim leaguers moved away from the narrow Aligarh school and took more interest in direct participation and cooperating with congress in political movement. Itna controversy kyu ho rha

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@paranthapijjasaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@TeddyWestsideone heading for leftists, communists and socialists and how they tried a radical overhaul by providing socio economic orientation to national movement. One for swarajists as to how they kept up the Constitutional side of struggle. One for revolutionaries who attempted fear psychosis and propaganda by deed. And one subeading for women with examples like Margaret cousins, lady mehrbai Tata and organisations started by them. On these lines.

awesome _/_

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you certainly have an appetite

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@Chanakyasaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Wow yaar... I mean every week a new nutcase emerges from this forum.and worst of all people feel they have to belittle others, but yet they need a pseudonym to hide their identity. UPSC certainly takes it's toll on the mind. sad

Is it just me, or is it getting crazier out there??

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hypothetically speaking its all decided the day we are born
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jiska kuch nhi hua wo bass list mai aana chahte hai, jo list mai hai wo acchi service paana chahta hai...acchi service wala acchi posting chahta hai
?ye kha aa gye hum

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marking sab chodo, ptakrna hai toh result date ka pta kro.

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all stages are taken into consideration
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@Asli_hai_sabsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@John_Titoressay mei inflation nazar aa rha hai

GS ka low score counteract kar dega?

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@Aishwarya123said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Hey guys...when should we start the count down for result ?

At such a time as his/her majesty finds propitious?

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want it to be before 5th dec☹

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decide for yourself

questin the authority

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no.1 haryana
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@Asli_hai_sabsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@Chanakyalatest update, UPSC high command has scolded evaluaters for their sub-optimal checking.

we are not too naïve to not know a hawk from a handsaw?

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@Aplharomeosaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@pmishra997125Damn, wasn't there a competitive bidding for the evaluation? Evaluators from Vision could've checked better.

seniority trumps merit here. vision abhi baccha hai?

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Out of box topic select karne ke chakkar mein galti ho jaati hai

out of box ke chakkar mai aisi lag gyi ki essay ke naam se bhi darr lgne lga hai… I felt in part B the essays were quite conventional and seemingly easy except south Asian society one..so I took the risk of writing that and realized midway that I dont have enough points and had to beat around the bush.
last year 124 tha, is bar utna hi mil jaye tab bhi I would be happy

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i dont remember or dont want to. broadly my essay revolved around state in india not being an organic institution and people owe allegiance to their cultural identities much more than state. this manifests in subregional aspirations like jaliikattu, failure in state formation process like in srilanka, Afghanistan.
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@vvvikas0078212said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@zombielandDo you really think SC and EWS will score more than general in upsc. If this is the case, then there is possibility that in pre also most of them would have scored above gen cutoff. So automatically, gen cutoff again will be higher as these candidates will be treated on par with gen cat. State and bank exams prepare list callously, but in upsc gen cutoff will always be highest.

hypothetically its possible. even if reservation candidates score higher in all stages but use age relaxation they will not be treated as general, so cutoff will be greater than general.

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@Lostsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@John_TitorThis is single criteria that must be true for the general cutoff to be lower than the reserved, which will never become reality?

ha hoga nhi aisa

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@STsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Waise ek baat zarur hain.. first timers ka Enthu alag hi high rehta hain.. aur yahan toh ye haal ki apne ache answers bhi sabse zyada tatti lagte hain.. ye prep sahi mein laaton se pakad ke ghuma ke muh ke bal maarti hain seedha zameen par..

PS: billi mera raasta kaate toh billi hi khatre mein hain.

+1 for enthu part

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carrying capacity vale mai kya likha

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@ranyo_asokasaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@John_Titordefinitin dhang se nhi likha hun jus wrote the limit of human activities over which environment isnt abe to regenerate..baki was fine...but 4 pages was shocker

kal khi pda that carrying capacity is not only a biological concept, urban planning mai alag se hota hai ye.. sustainable cities se related likhna tha

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or yaar kon bol rha 15 markers were easy in gs3, abhi paper dekha toh BP high ho gya bhut vague answers likhe hai

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bakar and more bakar
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was  just doing my civic duty
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yes your essay
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paav bhaji and trapped

too much fun

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was watching mela :D
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mujhe bhi nhi mili?

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PS: the above mentioned view is purely systemic. Frankly speaking, they don't deserve to live.

most importantly yet again we have missed to deliberate on uncomfortable issues of patriarchy, toxic masculinity, lack of sex education and understanding of the second sex, need for criminological study to identify the markers and cues that excite such crimes , reasons for failure of deterrence despite amendment in Criminal law, how to teach kids to distinguish a 'bad touch' from a 'good touch', and need for parents to be more trusting of their kids so that kids can talk to their parents without hesitation.

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@vvvikas0078212said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@Valar_morghulisWhat other mechanism can be built. Do you have sone suggestions?

victim impact statements should be given statutory backing, investigation and policing should be made separate fields , robust witness protection, overcoming broken window syndrome by ensuring certainty of punishment for even minor infractions, community policing.

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@abhishek_psaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

andar se badi strong feeling aa rahi hai ki aaj ayega!!!

unlikely , mahaul ban jata hai result ka agar aane wala ho

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@Lostsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Q- How your hobby will help in better administration?
My honest reply- Abey shale..maaf karna idhar udhar nikal jata hu...agar hobby bhi use ke purpose se ho to kya ghanta hobby hai...kabhi kabhi lagta hai ki kisi cheej ko karke khushi milti hai aur bas milti hai...koi use nahi hai☺

?exactly. aapki hobby pdna hai ? aap novel padte ho? nhi khaatey hai ..abe saaley

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@immortalmadhur726said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@John_Titorso u read novel.......no I eat novel....Abey saley.....what a legendary actor moin akhtat was

ya I was just binging on loose talk , the way he critiques society is something we need more of in present times.

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@zombielandsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@John_Titoryes it is a serious concern. My cousin is in class 12th. Instead of focussing on competitive exams he is more interested in hindutva. He always talks of how much Muslims r conservative, hw they r destroying country. He is absorbing all the fake news. M really concerned that if things r not controlled next generation will be of radicals. Sorry if I am generalising bt I hv found number of such kids r oncreasing

even I might be generalizing(I hope ) since we dont have any study to analyse this phenomenon.

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@vvvikas0078212said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@Shubztelegram pe naya fake info aaj 3 baje ka.

ye toh aa gya time

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[Forwarded from©]
Guys just got the info, work on our result begins. It may declare today and if not then tomorrow for sure

[Forwarded from ]
Yes..
Result on The way Guys!!
All the Best!
someone on telegram

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@vvvikas0078212said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@John_TitorYe C bhut bda C hai, yhi abhi 3 bje laane vala tha result.

oh still khabro ka bazaar raftaar pakad rha hai..feels like result around the corner

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frustrating ! aise toh ek week or nikal jayega

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इन्तहा हो गई, इंतज़ार की
आई न कुछ खबर, मेरे यार की

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for me biggest blunder done by opposition is that they have focused only on religious angle and not on many loopholes and inadequacies in this bill.

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When and where we all get to know about it
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@Ravssaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@BGPstudent ho toh chill karo bhai...

Elders are already present to take care of the country's issues.

Bhagat Singh didn't wait for elders, And Aurobindo Ghosh wrote New lamps for the old !!

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@kohliwagsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Just one more day to go. Hold your breath.

how are you so sure?

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@dancingminionsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Aaj bhi nahi aayega kya ?☹☹☹

internet was suspended for the day, I was hoping by the time internet returns I would be able to get a closure but... the sadists in upsc seems to have other plans

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@Godsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@AzadHindFauzits ok understandable... its sad people are doing it... peace✌?

What has hitherto been the greatest objection to existence? God.?

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detective detective mat khelo

live and let live. i have edited the content of everything :XC

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@Kira0705said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

3.The papers of only such candidates falling under EWS have been evaluated who possessed the relevant documents dated before 1st August 2019. The clarification on the status of such candidates have been cleared via mails dated 20th November, 2019, and subsequent correspondence. The candidates are advised to keep the certificates ready.

this line wont have been there in last years pdf so is not copied , does it look like an official line ? while creating a fake would the had made an effort to include this line

I think there's a grammatical mistake.
The clarification on the status of such candidateshavehas been cleared.... would be correct statement.

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@NadigVinaysaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@TeddyWestsidesaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@TeddyWestsidenow it does reveal my identity and my sound a bit boastful but since there has been this discussion i would like to share this article which i read as i woke up and believe me these kind of things give such satisfaction that i can't express it here in words. !!

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Can anyone translate that to English in brief? Tough for non-Hindi guys to understand.

it is basically about digitization of procedures in RTO office where teddywise sir is posted.

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is there any book that covers the 21st century part which is not covered in india since independence by bipan chandra

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@Caesarsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

What if a corrupt arrangement benefits everyone?

I once went to a local elec. office. Now they had these forms for different types of work. Now there was a middleman who used to come at a designated time outside the office, took a nominal charge(Rs30,40) and filled the form for the people(most of whom were semi-literates or workers in some rich house). This was 2013 and e-gov was not the buzz. Yes, they could have made the forms easy, but they got ir from the 'top'. Now,

  • The people:happy(by paying a small amount there forms would be filled correctly and work be done)
  • Staff:happy(correct forms, extra earnings)
  • Middleman:Happy

This was uptown Lucknow and there would be plenty of such offices in the district alone. Now, how would you solve this problem?

Pour in your thoughts comrades.

Plain Writing Act on the lines of US one. also a startup opportunity , there are already some firms that help get pan cards. common sevice centres can be utilized for handholding purpose

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@ManchesterUnitedsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@John_TitorNahh it isn’t victim blaming or anything!
I am genuinely surprised as to why inspite of being in college for 4 years,there was no such incidents and what drives these things to happen!
I personally have no idea of what student politics is about!

science stream is not concerned with human elements of society. You dont get to read a lot about the society that you inhabit and the fissures inherent in it in engineering colleges. I also never saw any political activity in my college apart from RSS sakha that was organized by some students.

Also when we passed out , things were different. Politics had not creeped in every aspect of life through social media.

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@ManchesterUnitedsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@John_TitorNot that simple!
Its the creeping of ideology and involvement of parties in student lives that are playing spoil sport!
Waste of time and energy!

ok

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@TETRACYCLINEsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@zombieland
CAT. HARMONIOUS CONSTRUCTION AND FEDERAL SUPREMACY UNESCO INDIA JAPAN

COORDINATION AMONG SERVICES SECTOR AND SUCCESS OF VARIOUS WELFARE PROGRAMMES WALA
YE SARE QUES KA BILKUL HI ACHA NHI LIKHA HAI AISA LGTAHAI DEKHTEHAI KITNA DETEHAI

3 sectors were Business, public, non-profit orgs. But I wrote abut software industry requiring coordination with other service sector like Education?

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@TETRACYCLINEsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@John_Titor
sala waha smjh hi nhi arha tha kya likhe to maine interministerial coordination pe likh diya
last 2 mins me 5 line

yup. difficult to comprehend and churn out points within 7-8 mins

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@kochikaamesaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@John_Titortum logon ko answers bhi Yaad hain. Main to questions bhi bhool Gaya. Was going through GS 2 papers and didn't remember anything at all except 4-5 questions.

bewkoofiyan yaad reh jaati hai

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doctors attacked in bengal
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who was giving legal inputs to upsc. Wasn't it possible to release results with candidature of petitioners being contingent on court order. Atleast we would have been spared this massive torment.

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@Raillifesaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@The_Powerpuff_girl
Notes banane me pura time chala jaata hai,sirf padke lagta hau ki kuch yaad toh rehne wala hai nhi,kya kare fir??

dont spend too much time on current affairs. google the headings given in syllabus and prepare them out of vision value added, books, internet etc . A lot of us ignore the syllabus and waste our time in CA hunting. for ex you would be spending a lot of time on economy current affairs but the syllabus gives clearly headings like Land reforms, LPG, crop pattern, irrigation, Infra(Niti new india report) ...all of this is static to a great extent. Actually there are only few questions that are entirely dependent on currant affairs.
unless your optional is like psir where current affair cant be ignored, vision booklets are more than sufficient. If you feel like making notes for mental satisfaction just select 3 editorials everyday and jot down imp points

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@TETRACYCLINEsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

how can mountain ecosystem be restored from negative effects of tourism and development activities

promoting Bhutan like low volume high value tourism, solar energy,electric vehicles, tourist awareness on waste disposal etc, empowering local govt, secure himalya project
focused only on preventive aspects, nothing on restoration.

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@Caesarsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@TETRACYCLINEsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@The_Powerpuff_girl
SOCIETY WALE QUESTIONS ME TO SOCIOLOGY WALE LOGO KO ADVANTAGE RHTA HOGA AND GEOGROPHY QUESTIONS OF GS1 WERE ALSO DIFFICULT THIS TIME TO TO GEO OPTIONAL WALO KO TO ADVANTAGE HOGA KYNKI HISTORY PORTION TO SBNE EK JAISA LIKHA HAI

Kabhi aisa hi sochke pol sc lia tha.. Paper dekha hi aapne gs2 ka??

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@Hermione_Granger said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@AzadHindFauzyou might want to look into Phillip Zimbardo's Stanford Prison Experiment (there's also a Netflix movie about it). It was to find out how often people conform to social roles given to them in a mock prison environment. It was one of the most controversial experiments in social psychology. They recruited few random people to act as prisoners and guards in a controlled situation. It had to be stopped midway because he found that the people assigned the roles of prison guards were becoming increasingly violent, abusive and indulged in dehumanising behaviour towards to prisoners, even when they knew that they are just innocent people acting as prisoners. Experiment concluded that people conform to their social roles even when it goes against their moral principles, and that situational factors (power, authority) are more responsible for this behaviour than dispositional factors (they themselves).
Conformity has also been cited with respect to racism in America post Trump win because they're are situational factors like power, authority, wide acceptance to provide backing people's racist thoughts which otherwise would have been dismissed - so now they assert such things more so often.

reminds me of lord of the flies. something similar happens in it , though it's a philosophical fiction.

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any new update on result ?

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@Ultimathulesaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

In tg people are saying that chairman categorically asked staff to release result today itself anyhow

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Fuhrer's dot on old forum

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@STsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

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@TETRACYCLINEsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

sahi me iska kya matlb hua for Tg puppies

batao koi@John_Titor.. TG puppies kyun...????

someone asked him to put a dot at forum if he is real fuhrer

@John_Titorbhai aayega matlab??

to be frank I can not say for sure as I dont have any insider info. I am as clueless as the next guy.

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@VivekanandSsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@Abraham-Maslow4 attempts khatma ho gye! 5th k lye himmat jutane me kafi taklif ho rahi h!

do you have any backup?

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