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@dancingminion- If all are avg answers then you can expect max 80 marks. if 6-7 are good, then you get around 100.

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I was happy after all papers except Geography paper 1 as first 4 answers are wrong.

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Share your thoughts on geography optionals.. please...

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Wish you all a very Happy Dewali?

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@HaeckelAgree.

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@BrickTrue
250 to 270 is not bad score in optionals, if your performance is good in GS + Essay. In fact, it doesn’t stop you from selection even if you get 60-70 marks less than toppers.

As we know there will be a difference of 100 marks always between 1st and 250th rank, which is sufficient to get IPS, IRS & IAAS?

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@Yug_ Find the service-wise last rank below as per last year data for general category

  1. IPS - 235
  2. IRS - 264
  3. IAAS - 274
  4. IRTS - 348

I have just taken average of last few years and around 250 Rank is OK to get good service which includes IPS. You can check data of last 6 years for more details.
One more point, there is only 1 mark difference between Rank 232 and rank 251 - as per last year data.

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Why we are targeting to score more marks like 300 in optionals only. My optional is Geography. Now a days even in optionals we see many generic questions.
And, why it is not possible to score equally in all 7 papers (+-20 marks)?
Is it not possible to avoid over dependency on optionals?

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@ChanakyaAgree with you.

One more point – most of the GS papers syllabus covers as part prelims only. So we should not let it go waste by focusing too much on optionals.
Good strategy is mixture of both - target for 130 marks in optionals and around 100 to 105 marks in GS papers and remaining in Essay.

Note - These are just targets. Actuals may vary from person to person based on strategies.

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Few are good in theory and few are good in multiple choices. It is not possible for one to be best at all places always.
Most of the toppers including Tina Dabi cleared prelims with just a mark more than cut off.
I feel prelims is tougher than mains always.

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@vvvikas0078212It will be close to 1000, if you score around 180 in interview, otherwise Increase GS avg to 110 to be on safar side. Or score more in Essay paper.

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@vvvikas0078212then need to score 15-20 more in GS it self.

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Thanks all for your valid comments.

You mean, same answer and content fetches more marks in Geography optional than GS1, if same question comes in both the papers.
Means optional papers evaluation is liberal always? Doesn’t depend on person who evaluates and other factors?

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@John_Titor
Not interested to discuss much about anti-indians like Kanhaiya Kumar.
Lets use this forum for constructive discussion on mains\ interview only.

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@vvvikas0078212
Which constitution gives right to shout slogans like - India becomes 1000 pieces? Democracy should be within limits and it should not hurt others.

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@vvvikas0078212@Yes_I_am_in@Haeckel@princessconsuela488- Do you agree with his slogans - India becomes 1000 pieces?

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@Yes_I_am_in@vvvikas0078212-- I’m not talking about punishment or to what extent it can be criminalized. But it’s ethically wrong.

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@Yes_I_am_inNo, Ethics ka action\ punishment say koi matlab nai – It is inner feeling of correctness.

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@CaesarIt doesn’t mean 100% ethically correct, if there is no action.
I’m not talking about inner feeling of one who is accused, but also people in society.

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Begusarai people thought a good lesson in 2019 (lost his seat with big margin – that shows how many are really supporting him)?

Hope, he learned lesson in court of people – thats the power of real democracy.

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Jane do ab. Begusarai me already ho gaya referendum?

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in democracy, will decide by majority as long as it is not proved already as criminal.

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Priority goes to --

  1. IAS\ IPS
  2. IRS IT
  3. IRS Customs
  4. IAAS
  5. IRTS
  6. RPF
  7. Indian Defence Estate --- will start as CEO of estate
  8. IRAS
  9. Indian Defence Accounts
  10. DANIPS\ DANICS

IFS - can be placed in 2nd\ 3rd place if interested to move to other countries.

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@vvvikas0078212-- H9w ??

ICLS is a new service - not in much demand at present as overall man power is just 291 and many are not clear about it's role, growth opportunities, future & benefits.
Let me know if anyone knows more about ICLS.

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@ManchesterUnitedAgree with you..

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Everyone has right to speak about army man and nationalism. Because we respect and love it though we are not in army. Will be ready to sacrify life if time comes. Jai Hind.

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@SabChangaSiIn fact few are hurting us badly by supporting anti national elements. Democracy doesn't mean will speak whatever we want.
I say anti national if someone says India teray 1000 tukade hongey. I too have my right here to speak in favour of my country. How can we tolerate if someone speaks wrong about India.

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@SabChangaSiGo through discussion from page no 168 for examples.

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@SabChangaSiSir Ji. No one is politician in this forum?
And no one is going to take law in hand.

Evidences are there against many JNU students, but matter was not that much serious and it can ruin students careers. That's why court just warned. However it doesn't come under sedition.

Debate is just matter of ethics and feeling.

Let's close this topic for now.

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@K_9
I have been working as project manager in one of the IT company since last 11 years and I know how to manage and work with people impartially who are coming from different places and mindsets.
I know my strengths and weakness.
It's really surprising few people stand in first row to give advices that too without asking?

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Not sure why few people wants to behave like lawyers to take a stand of anti-national elements (let's consider it is just opinion).
I'm not pointing out any individual from this forum right. But you are pointing out me repeatedly and giving unnecessary suggestions - I already told 4 times so far to stop discussion on this point.

That was my feeling and just added a line there. You consider your-self great, intelligent and worthy to manage all situations, then ignore my comment and go ahead, instead of running behind it.
Give advice if someone asks you. If you are not interested, just ignore and go ahead as you know how to respect all.

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Your comments doesn't seems worthy for me. Don't advice me going forward.

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You only told to ignore it in your previous comments if someone comments instead of reacting too much. Why you are running behind it repeatedly now?
Are you really working in CRPF or just....

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@SabChangaSiLogical conclusion 2019 may hogaya on nationalism with 303 MPs – because most of the people voted for nationalism and corruption free India in 2019.

Ab hamaray discussion say konsa conclusion nikalnevala hai?

Need to wait till 2024 - There entire nation participates for next logical conclusion --- not just 5-10 members like us.

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@SabChangaSiWe are taking about nationalism, not individualism of 1 or 2.
Coming to my point - I don't change my stand even if I'm alone. I cannot waste my time now. byeee

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Yes 2-3 good papers takes score above 810.

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@sat_009It will be close to last year cut off + or - 10 marks

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@dr-ahmednaaz8567Few optional paper 1 also difficult like in Geography when compared to last year paper.

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@DKTThanks for detailed explanation

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@pmishra997125Don't change it, if you get 300+ again this time.

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@pmishra997125Correct, but I can't suggest you to change it as you are scoring around 300.

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Both ways works – but it depends on your strategy

  1. Target few questions for which you have good content and leave couple of questions for which you have nothing to write
  2. Attempt all if you know at least 1-2 points in each -- write some basic info like definition, pros & cons in short (just take half page), but don’t bluff.
  3. Don’t leave questions if you have 2-3 points ready, complete them in short and move to other questions quickly - that will help you fetch 2 marks easily.
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  • Cut off will be around 775 for general and around 735 for OBC
  • 815+ is safe score to be in final list for general.
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@ranyo_asokaNo. It is just my opinion.

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Forum may itna sannata kyun hai bhai

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@sat_009I too agree on this. At least 15 people from this forum may get more than 800 marks.

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I feel - at least 2-3 from this forum will be in top100 final list.

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I heared like about 10-12% people fails every year to clear language papers. Is it true.

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What is the process UPSC follows to normalise optional marks of different optionals.

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@AzadHindFauzYes. There should be some common papers instead of optionals

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I did not do well in geography optional paper 1, specially first 4 questions in PART 1 and I’m OK with remaining answers and satisfied with PART 2.
But problem is with the 2 blunders that I did initially in the paper - Evapotranpiration And Sandspits & tombolos --- completely wrong, but I filled 1.5 pages - I didn't feel wrong while writing.
And 2 more below average answers – Phreatic eruption and Amensalism

How does it impacts, please clarify. Is it still possible for 130 marks? I will be very happy If I get between 115 to 130 in Paper 1, because I did well in all other papers.
How much I can expect in this case?
Did anyone come across such situations - if yes, how much did you get in your previous attempts?

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@vvvikas0078212GRR ??

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@vvvikas0078212Yes, but I do not remember what I have written for NRR, and explained true replacement level. Let's consider this one also average. Apart from this, remaining are above average - I hope so.

Request you all to share honest feedback on this and max marks can be expected in the following case - all 20 and 15 markers and 4 - 10 markers written well or above average.

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@vvvikas0078212I have written exact answer for this -- No issues there.

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@vvvikas0078212are you kidding me?
I'm expecting around 120 - I'm happy with that.
Let me know lower bound.
Did you come across such situations - I'm scared because first 4 answers may give negative impression - and it may impact 1-2 marks in each?
Clarify on this.

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@vvvikas0078212Paper 2 is not so great, but OK for me. Will get around 135.
What about you. How much you are expecting in P1 & P2.

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Below is just one more possible way. It may not work for all.

420 is possible in GS papers, 100-105 in 1st 3 GS papers and 115-120 in ethics – because it is the easiest paper which can really fetch good marks if someone done well.
And 135 in Essay that takes score to 555. Now lets see Optionals -

Case 1: UR – Need to score around 260, then total would be 815
Case 2: OBC – 225 is also fine, that takes their score to 780. But if they want IAS, then need to score around 240 in optionals and little more in eassy.

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@Biryanimafia_Do not dis-like it yaar. I'm just sharing my honest feelings?

If we check toppers marks, they are getting 560 to 580 in GS +Essay. That too with very average score in Essay. Then, cannot we try for 540. Is it impossible?

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@sat_009
10-20 people will fall in above category out of 800 where they get almost equal marks in GS and optionals.

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@Biryanimafia_Really hard to wait for results for 75 days?
Daily we do some experiments with predictions.

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@vvvikas0078212How you are using this free time.

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@vvvikas0078212Nice yaar. All the best.

  1. How many marks did you get last time (Essay, GS, Optional and Interview).
  2. Which Job - IT?
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@vvvikas0078212Your score is good in GS and Essay - getting 540 consistently and not bad in optionals. Just focus on Interview, you will make it this time.

This is what I was trying to explain since morning - your score is good example - Just assume, if OBC candidate gets the same - can't he get name in list easily with little improvement in interview?

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@bevancom- Good know this and congrats.
Sorry to ask this, is it true & believable?

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Any one know, what is the low score in interview among mains cleared candidates in 2018.

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@sat_009I think cut off will be around 775 for UR and 740 for OBC.

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@TheHobbitNO. Not at all just for one line as long as it is meaningful

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Request all to discuss on cut-off and expected marks

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@pmishra997125It is just rumor. Don't believe it.

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Can someone confirm from where did you get this information.

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@Jharsugudaplease confirm is it true

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December agaya, results ka real count-down starts now.
All the best to all serious aspirants.

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@bevancomI agree with you. It is possible to write answers in exam without much practice, if candidate is good in writing answers by nature. I too attempted mains without much practice, just written answers to 7 questions and only one easy.
In mains I didn't leave any questions.
Because, answer writting is my strength, since school days.
But I struggled lot to clear prelims.

I believe in content, not in answer writting practice.

Please don't bombard if someone don't agree.
Hanuman Ko Sakshi Maankar har word sahi likha hu.

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@vvvikas0078212105*4 + 140 + 240 -- difficult, but a bi ek scenario ban Santa hai.

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@zombielandyes, but rare case may hosakta hai

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@zombielandavg se to nahi hoga. Need to get above avg in GS+ Easy to remove dependency from optionals.

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@ShubzYes, it is possible.

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Exit poll kya bolta hai, a week before results?
Guess cut-off......Everyone must participate.

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@RagsMy guess says cut-off will be around 765.

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Yes, please discuss something on results, cut-off and interview.

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Is it the place where results will be placed or some other place is there for mains results? Please post the URL.https://www.upsc.gov.in/examinations/Civil Services (Main) Examination%2C 2019

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As per the 2011 census, 78.4% people can speak Hindi very well and around 7% more people can speak Hindi through not that much good.
Only around 15% people can’t speak Hindi who are from Tamilnadu, Andhra Pradesh, few from Kerala & few from West Bengal & NE states etc.

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85% people knows Hindi, hence it is not wrong to give some priority to Hindi.
Note - my mother tongue is also not Hindi, but I love my national language.

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@ManchesterUnitedHindi is India's official languages as per Article 343

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We need one language which brings all together. Hindi is the language at least 85% people can understand (English hardly 10% people).

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Onemore day gone, no update about result so far?

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One young man went for an ias interview.
"when did india get independence?" he was asked.
"the efforts began a few years earlier and final
result was in 1947" he replied.
"who was responsible for our independence?"
"there were so many. whom to mention? if i name one, it will be
a injustice to another." he replied. "is corruption the number one enemy in
our country?"
"some research is going on the subject and i can answer with
certainly only after seeing the report" he replied.
the interview board was very pleased with his original and
thoughtful answers and asked him not to reveal the questions to others,
since they were planning to ask the same questions. when he went out naturally
others were curious to know what was asked. he politely declined, but one
persistent sardar would not leave him. "at least tell me the answers" he pleaded, and our friend obliged.
then it was the turn of this sardar. when he went inside, since his resume
was slightly illegible, the board member asked him. "by the way, what is
your date of birth?"
he replied, "the effort began a few years earlier and final result was in
1947."

somewhat puzzled, they asked another clarification.
"what is your fathers name?"
he replied, "there were so many. whom to mention".
if i name one, it will be injustice to another". the interviewer was incensed.

"hey! are you mad or what?"
he replied. "some research is going on the subject.ican answer
with certainty only after seeing the report."

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I called UPSC (011-23381125) just now and asked for tentative date for results. He told me - they too don't have any info when results will be declared. He also told, need to check their website for results and that is the only way.

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There are so many fake accounts - who are intentionally down voting on all my previous posts - Because I disliked his hatred behaviour on Government\ and BJP - I see following 2 names who has down voted on each post -@whysoseriousand@utkarsh_mishra
Have down voted 96 times on all my previous posts. I know he is going to down vote on all my 166 previous posts. I can also do the same now with new accounts.

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@root,@Root-0-- Please block@whysoserious, a fake account which is intentionally created, just to down vote on previous posts without any reason.

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@Ravs?

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All - Few are intentionally down voting on previous posts, if we don't agree with their ideology (Anti BJP) or arguments.

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@RavsPhir bhi Jeetegato Modihe

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@whysoseriousAbey kuttey, old post per kyu dislike Karraha.
Sadist type ka lagra tu.
Bhagoda, old account chodkay kyu bhag-gaya.
Jitna Chahey karlay, kuch Pharak nahi padta.

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@whysoseriousI'm fine. How r u?

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@whysoseriouswo bhi tera ID samja mi, agar tera nai hai to reverse karunga. I don't have any problem with that.
Meri communication ID to rags hi rahegi - koi dislike karnesay chodnahidengay

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@whysoseriousWhy did you start disliking previous posts. Aur kintnay logonkay Sath eisa kiyatu.
Isay kuch hoga nai, tu do Kiyato hum 4 ids say karengay. Phir donoka time waste hoga - aur kuch nahi.

Absay, comment karna hai to current aur related post pay karna, previous post pay nai - woto cheating hai. Cheating karna band kar.

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@Jayson_Bourne19 crores migrants? Then, it is more than Bangladesh population. Whole Bangladesh population is just 163 millions.
Migrants are only in lacks, not in crores.

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@kalpeshjnvj315 Please discuss UPPSC related queries in different thread.

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@RealMangoTelegram worst group hai. Do not trust them.

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@ShubzAgar group may 1000+ members haito aisahi hoga?

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People who have got EWS certificates will get advantage this time as only limited no of aspirants were able to get certificates before Aug 1st and who did not get, they are all competing in general now.

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We were very eager about results till Dec 20. But now, there is no such seriousness whatever the result may be +ve or -ve.
My dear friends - Wish you a very happy new year?

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@DKTI like your confidence and the way your reply. Not sure how many marks you get, but I can say - your name will be there in mains list for sure as I have seen your reply quality, sense and poetry etc. which are required to write sensible mains answers within 7-10 min - along with content.
I feel you are the worthy candidate to be in the list?

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@DKT- you will clear mains with very good marks. I miss your posts on forum. If people like you are not there, forum becomes handicap. All the best and keep in touch.

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Coaching wale also claimed today is the day for results.
https://chanakyaiasacademy.com/upsc-result/

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Godi says 30 min in TG group?

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TG group admin - आज ही आयेगा वरना में जिंदगी भर ब्लेंडर्स प्राइड नही पियूँगा
And Godi's current post in TG -- My friend is still in UPSC. Jhoot nahin bolega woh

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Yes able to see link

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