Mains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread

@LalalashHow much are you getting in prelims ?

@ManchesterUnited

Guys, How many marks are considered good in Forum IAS essays ?
I got 119, is it good or average ?

@Kira0705lol, gyan dene wale aise dete hain jaise ghanto hain humare paas likhne ke liye

Diagram bhi bana dena, facts bhi, aur relevant intro, saath main forward looking conclusion bhi hona chaiye
Kahan se kare ye sab 7 min main!!

Guys, are you able to complete your paper in time ?
Mera toh abhi bhi choot raha hain

guys, essay ki sub-headings kya banate ho ?
Koi common subheadings hain kya ?
Like roadblocks, potential etc

@ManchesterUnited
you marks are pretty good in forum tests. What is your average rank in full tests ?
I just get around like 90-92.
I think forum gives 10 marks less than Vision, if you want to know your vision marks just add 10 to your final score.

@chandler_bingthanks!

@Kira0705
arre bhai nahi yar.
Itne se kuch nahi hota.
Toda cross bhi kar jaye toh bhi koi issue nahi hain

How was your paper ?

@Kira0705maine bhi Primary Health Care/Education
Plus Best for individual wala likha

Development process wale ka kya likha ?
Aur CAT wala ?

@Caesarsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@STbhai Quora mat khol lena, wahan toh koi random banda jo prepare bhi na kr rha ho, woh bhi batayega ki kaise upsc khali wisdom and presence of mind ka game h..

Classic quota stuff!!
Khudka hota nahi, par gyaan sabko dena hain

@Kira0705aur appeal process ka kya ?
Usme toh main blank tha

@Kira0705said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@ManchesterUnitedyep bro same here divided in regions and wrote some points like geography related stress in west (less rainfall etc) , arsenic and fluroide pollution in south and east in excessive ground water depletion in north west in addition to general points under each region . not very confident though

Maine 2 part main toda
Less rainfall
Improper water management

Phir alag alag regions likh diye

Attorney general pe 3 page kaise likhe

@ManchesterUnitedsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@Kira0705I dont see any other approach!
Problem with paper 2 is they have given everything in the question and are asking us to comment elaborate which is very tedious!

Yep, in Basic structure wala question, I didn't know what to write ?

@ManchesterUnitedsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminionECI,HC,SC
Appeal over judgment of SC!

+1
Can we directly approach high court as well as it is a legal right ?

@Caesarhaan aur uske baad uss statement toh sab de hi diya tha.

Uska toh bas one word answer lag raha tha -- bas "No"

@ManchesterUnitedwhat did you write in Development process-Sevice Sector question ?

What about Divergence between Poverty and Hunger ?

@ManchesterUnited
we can add basic structure as well kesaavananda bharti case - seventh schedule and federalism are part of basic structure

@ManchesterUnitedwhat did you write in basic structure ?

@ManchesterUnited@Jayson_Bourne

Started with the question statement
Then gave amending power of the parliament A 368

Wrote these points why Parliament can't do
Written nature of constitution
Judicial Review
Minerva Mills case Sc abolished A 31c second provision
Doctrine of Sc - what you cannot do directly you cannot do indirectly
And wide coverage of existing basic structure doctrine thus finding loopholes is difficult

Is it correct ?

GS4 main sabke measures ek se likhe
Pata nahi haasu ya rou

@Kira0705said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

same here bro wrote very general avg level ans could remember only bits and pieces , how did you attempt low inflation steady gdp , what was expected ans?

Vulnerability wale ka kya likha ? Bilkul clueless tha usme

@chandler_bingbhai door se dekhne main sabko simple lagta hain, paper dene time pata chalta hain ki tough ya aasaan
Muje toh vague bhi laga aur lengthy bhi

Forum pe log kyun nahi hain, sab padne bhi lage kya itni jaldi

@Behemothsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Seeing the nature of gs papers , what do you all think about cut off lower than last year or on similar lines?

Almost on the similar lines, toda 10-20 marks kam ho sakti hain par usse kam nahi

@John_Titor
vaise, what are the example of Integrated farming and water shed projects ?
I started with the definition, aur phir positive diye and then conclude kar diya. I guess ye generic hi hain

did you guys do something else ?

@Tetsukosaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

https://www.seekhe.com/en/हिंदी-मुहावरे-सबसे-ज्याद/seems like last year upsc ne esi se muhavre puche the

Thanks bhai

Aur koi sources hain kya hindi ke liye ??

@Shubzsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@shubh36absolutely....ques like integrated farming,visvesvaraya,cyber dome,watershed type ques required specifics...i dnt think upsc would give much marks for writing some peripheral stuff....and like gs1 of last yr if they decide to toy with checking thn marks would reduce even more

But even if we write average and generic stuff, 2-3 marks per question toh mil jayenge.
Aur saare questions toh sabako nahi aate honge, toh I guess itna difference aayega nahi

@nikhilit20112751 said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@Vikai agree but 70-80 is thoda low i guess pichle time ke jaise marking hui to 85-90 will be abg

Haan, it will be more like 85-90.
But agar checking liberal karte hain, toh phir wohi 100 tak bhi ja sakti hain

@Kira0705said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@STyr it worked for previous years , now this time upsc changed things a bit , woh bi pak gaye honge har saal ~10K copies same type ka format dekh dekh , essay mein wahi ghise pite stories se shuru hota hue dekh k .

Har cheez ka limit hota h

Par hum log bhi kya kare

GS main bas 7 min per question main kaise diversity leke aaye
Iss bar toh question hi samaj main nahi aaye, nayi style main likhna possible hi nahi lagta

@K_9said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@Kira0705Intro body conclusion is a broad format. Sometimes people try to rigidly stick to their own set formats instead of answering what the question specifically asks.

For example - In one of ethics case study this year, there was a question on consequences of politicization of bureaucracy. Only the consequences were asked. Not the reasons, not the "way forward or solutions". Still many candidates try to be innovative, solution oriented by putting in a way forward. Address the question. Nothing more. Nothing less.

I think there is nothing wrong in discussing way forward or solutions. But they should be limited to 20-25% of the answer. The rest 80% must be dedicated to what was asked.

@Ravssaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Non performance of duties by a civil servant is corruption. Justify

Please enlighten me on this. I failed to justify in the exam.

Last year GS4 looked so easy, this time I found it really difficult.

Upar se nobody is talking about it toh Aisa lag rha hai ki bass mera hi kharab gya hai.

I negated the statement. Wrote on how non performance is ethically wrong but it cannot be termed as corruption as there is no private gain involved.

Gave examples of Policy Paralysis, Red Tapism where there is non performance but we cannot say corruption is taking place.

Plus used example of Case Study 1 - where rescue work was halted due to heavy rains, There is an element of non performance but it is due to external factors, which cannot be termed as corruption.

Guys, what did you write in this question - "What are the continued challenges for women in India against time and space?" (GS1)

@corrigible_87said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@Jayson_Bournemene temporarally life cycle approach dal dia, from birth, adolescence, adult; or spatially sector daal diye, urban rural , aur zyada yad nahi aya spatially.

Bro same, maine bhi yehi kiya

But pata nahi sahi hain ki galat hain

Koi Vision ka GS2 ka discussion dekh raha hain kya ?

@Bodhgayasaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminion
Saw 1-2 questions.. being discussed by same faculty of paper 1.

Kuchh jyada hi idealistic answers hain yar. Na to time tha, na hi itne words aur na hi space ki utne points likhe.. question 1 ka hi explain ajeeb lga..
but it is my opinion, u can see urselves.

True bro, they discuss like we have hours to write the content.
But nonetheless, we can see what an ideal answer would be like.

Guys, need some advice

I have been preparing for the past two years. Appeared in both mains, last year and this year. But I am not really sure of clearing it this time as well. Thinking of taking up a job and continue the preparation alongside the job.

I want to know, whether it's feasible to prepare alongside a (9-5) job ? What are your thoughts on this ?

For me personally it seems difficult, but so is preparing for UPSC especially when the uncertainty keeps on increasing year after year.

@Shubzsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminionTaking up a 9-5 job will be a good idea if the job is not too demanding(like in an IT company) and makes it possible for you to give atleast 4-5 hours to study daily....

Ps - same situation - 2 attempts,2 mains,unsure of clearing it this time as well

+1 bhai, I am from IT background so most likely will be taking a job in IT.
but after taking up a job focusing on both UPSC and job is difficult

Yahan logon ke answers pad ke lag raha ki mera toh pakka nahi ho raha

How many marks one can expect if one has written average answers in all of the questions ?

@foxmuldersaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminionGoing by last year's standards, average answers in almost all questions would have given you 80s in GS1 and GS4, 90s in GS2 and GS3

So around 3 in 10 marker and 5 in 15 marker, right ?

What is the marking scheme in good and excellent answers ?

@Shubzthanks for the input

I guess, I wrote pretty average answers in my last attempt

My marks hovered around 80 in all the 4 papers
GS1 - 72 (less due to harsh marking in GS1)
GS2 - 83
GS3 - 80
GS4 - 85
Left almost 2-2.5 question in every paper.

So I guess people who have completed the paper and wrote even slightly above average answers can expect to get more than 90 - 95

@pysh12950said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

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+1 Must watch

@ranyo_asoka820 toh mere kahin se nahi aa rahe
Prelims 2020, here I come!

@sat_009said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@Shubzyear to year variations are there,
2017 gs3 was checked with 70 60 50 40 percent contunuum,
70 percent for excellent, 60 for good, 50 for relevant, 40 for average
in paper gs1 and 2, seems 65 55 45 35 percent was awaded.
gs 4 was strict.

2018 me
gs paper 1 me 55 45 40 35 % (excellent, good, relevant and average)
gs paper 2 and 3 ,60 50 45 35 % (excellent, good, relevant and average)
gs paper 4 was 1 grade liberal than 2017,

in short marking depends upon -

1. questions asked( specific or general - more number of specific questions reduces average score of that paper across the board)
2. standards set for evaluator
3. marking pattern
4. which paper gets liberal scoring (consider if someone has done good in gs paper 3, liberal checking will be bonanza for him or her, consider if someone has messed up gs 2 and checking is strict there, it will be disaster for him ir her).

comclusion - not messing up tough papers (for marking)
and doing good where paper was easy and marking scheme is good will lead to great scores overall

What is the difference between an average answer and a relevant answer ? I am not able to understand How to categorize my answers in different categories.

for eg in GS3 - IFS wala question. I first defined what is IFS and wrote 4-5 points on How IFS can help in sustaining agricultural production like better returns and remuneration, climate change resistance, better productivity, diversification etc. And in end I concluded with the line that IFS will help in doubling farmers income by 2022.
(no examples and no diagrams and figures) [1.5 page total]

According to you is it a relevant answer or an average answer ?

@Deltasaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@RavsSomeone sent me for some services, can't vouch for it though.
IAS 180 [UR 73 OBC 49 EWS 18 SC 27 ST 13]
IPS 150 [UR 60 OBC 42 EWS 15 SC 23 ST 10]
IFS 24 [UR 12 OBC 6 EWS 2 SC 3 ST 1]
IRS IT 63 [UR 27 OBC 17 EWS 6 SC 9 ST 4]
IRS CCE 41 [UR 19 OBC 10 EWS 3 SC 6 ST 3]

IFS ki seats itni kam kyun ?️

@K_9said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@foxmulderSahi mei bhai. I don't get the "lbsnaa is working at its full capacity" excuse to not recruit more people. How about you invest a little bit since you're the friggin indian government and improve administrative infrastructure and capacity. So many reports have noted that India lacks adequate number of IAS/IPS plus there is an incredible governance deficit.

+Plus, IFS seats were more last year.
When you were able to train more people last year, certainly you can train them this year as well.
And they are planning to open 18 new embassies in Africa. Kya bina staff ke kholini hain kya ?

@visionmansaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

With the eerie calm here just makes me think that everybody is back to studying for prelims/interview. Is it just me or does anybody feel like that.
Undoubtedly a very unproductive time this is.

Nahi bhai.
Main toh ab result ke baad hi start karunga. Jab certain hi nahi hain toh pad ke kare kya ?

@Ragssaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Forum may itna sannata kyun hai bhai

DKT comment nahi kar raha

@Yug_ said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@foxmulderbhai What might have been the average scores across 4 GS papers last year? Any Idea?

Bro mine was pretty average. I got around 330.
And the average for selected candidates was around 380-400.

Anyone here preparing for UPSC with their job ?
Can you share your experience ? Is it manageable ?

@vvvikas0078212said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminionI nvr left job. Max 20 days leave for mains (including exam dates). Reached till interview stage once. If your job allows stress free study after 5pm, u can manage.

Thanks for the reply.
How may hours were you able to dedicate to UPSC daily ?

@dr-ahmednaaz8567said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminion
Me. Took leave after prelims

What was your routine ? How many hours were you able to dedicate to UPSC daily ?

@vvvikas0078212said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminionatleast 5 on weekdays, 8 on weekends. I stay near office. 10 min walk. No energy lost in travel, more time to study.

5 hrs on weekdays is quite good! What was your schedule ?

I am thinking of taking up a job and studying 2-3hr before office and atleast 1-2 hr after office. Just a bit conflicted on whether I will be able to manage or not.

Out of all the model GS answers keys released by the coaching institutes. Which do you think is good ?

@TeddyWestsidesaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Bhai logon what is water stress and how it differs regionally me kya kya likha aap logon ne ?

Started with the definition of water stress.
Showed the "How" part on the map highlighting different water scarce regions.
Now for the "Why" part divided it into two sub headings

1. due to geographical aspects eg Raj, Vidharbha, Guj etc
2. due to water resource mismanagement eg Punjab Haryana, Chennai, NE India etc

Concluded with the Mihir Shah report and SDG goals.

@Thoroughly_Screwedsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminion2/15

Kyun bhai ?
I know it's not the best but I think it is better than average

Bhai yaha koi Chemsitry optional se hain kya ? Kaisa hua paper ?

@atuljisaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Irrelevant to discussion right now...anyone remembers what you have written in that regional resource manufacturing question in gs1 ?

bhai please ab nahi !! Ab himmat nahi bachi

@failuresaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

lowde lag jayenge result dekh kar

Mere toh lagte lag rahe hain

@Lostsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Anyone did a spelling mistake and still got above-average marks in the essay paper?

Got 120 in essay last year. I guess it was more or less the average.
In Part B, I wrote the "privilege & values" wala essay.
In the entire essay, I misspelled "privilege" as "priviledge" (in at least more than 50 places)
So, certainly it's not a big factor, otherwise I would have gotten much less marks.

@zombielandsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@TETRACYCLINEbro u r going to b selected. UPSC filters out superior people

Haha, true !!

@hirockyrocks7101said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@Yes_I_am_in

1. D
2. K
3. T

DKT toh interview main bhi top kar raha hain, hum log toh abhi mains ka hi soch rahe hain

@K_9said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminionDKT is the kind of person that scores cut off + 250 in mains. Competitors 250 le aaye interview mei, still uski rank 1 hi hogi

and that too after leaving 50 marks in each paper

Guys, those of you joined jobs after giving exams, How did you explain the GAP years due to UPSC preparation ?
I am looking for jobs but it's really hard to explain a gap of 2 years in my resume

@nikhilrai0827880said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminionfacing exactly the same issue, despite having iit and iim degree and two years of workex in Paytm. Got just 3 interview calls in last 2 months. Everyone gets disinterested as soon as they hear of gap.
Planning to use my contacts after mains result (as before result, even contacts will be reluctant to help because they would not want their referral to leave job in 5-6 months in case we clear everything).
Regarding explanation, I am honestly telling the upsc reason, as other bluffs will most probably be caught in interview etc
Anyone with better ideas can help here..

same here man!!
I think as soon as recruiters hear about UPSC, they automatically assume that the candidate is a flight risk. Also they assume that the candidate's performance won't be good, since they will be giving further attempts.
So, I am thinking of skipping this whole UPSC thing from my resume and mentioning that I took the break due to personal reasons.

@Ravssaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

My dear candidates,

On a scale from 1 to 10.

What was the difficulty level of last year's GS

& What is the difficulty level of this year's GS.

apart from GS2, felt the rest of GS papers were similar to last year.
Essay was a bit easier as it was along expected lines.
IMO,
difficulty level(2018) - 8
difficulty level(2018) - 8.5 (due to GS2)

@nikhilrai0827880said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminioncan be done. But I have heard from those who have been in similar situations that opaqueness about the gap can also create a general negativity in the minds of recruiters, so one may not be better off as compared to choosing the other option (i.e. giving exact reason). Everyone has different opinion and anything can work. Let's just keep trying..

yeah, we will have to keep trying. apart from it, there is nothing much we can do
Let's hope we find our jobs sooner than later. Best of luck!

@Biryanimafia_ said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Baap se bolu ghar bech dein, agle attempt se pehle?

haha, watch Hindi Medium if you haven't already. It is based on a similar idea.

@STsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Is result around the corner?

Bhai results ka toh pata nahi
But anxiety and stress around the corner jarur hain

@Ravssaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Can someone touch 300 in optional even if one has written bakar in 50 marks in each paper ?

Looking at the difficulty level of optional this year, what should be a good score this time ?

Bhai har saal sabko optional difficult lagte hain, but score wohi similar hi rehte hain.

@Ravssaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@vvvikas0078212820-850 is the safest score to land in the Holy list. Par itna score karna zara mushkil hai, par namumkin nahi.

Bhai, itna score unhi ka aa sakta hain jinka optional acha hua hain.

Since, I fucked up in my optionals and GS2 mere liye toh almost impossible hain itna score lana️

@STsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminionsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@Ravssaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@vvvikas0078212820-850 is the safest score to land in the Holy list. Par itna score karna zara mushkil hai, par namumkin nahi.

Bhai, itna score unhi ka aa sakta hain jinka optional acha hua hain.

Since, I fucked up in my optionals and GS2 mere liye toh almost impossible hain itna score lana️
kya optional hain@dancingminionaapka?

Chemistry

@STsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@zombielandso so truePrelims is a nightmare. Mugging up those tedious facts again. Endless mock.. ewwww!!

Aur phir last main paper main kuch aur hi aata hain

@STsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

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@Ravssaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@vvvikas0078212820-850 is the safest score to land in the Holy list. Par itna score karna zara mushkil hai, par namumkin nahi.

Bhai, itna score unhi ka aa sakta hain jinka optional acha hua hain.

Since, I fucked up in my optionals and GS2 mere liye toh almost impossible hain itna score lana️
kya optional hain@dancingminionaapka?

Chemistry

oh bc..woh sn1 sn2 e1 waala chutiyaap. bhai no comments.. hope u do well..

Haan bhai wohi

@vvvikas0078212said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@abhishek_pCase studies toh I felt ok, but crisis of conscience me concept hi galat likh aya

Arre!! bhai aap ek ek question pe itna kyun socha rahe ho.
2-3 question toh sabke hi upar niche hote hain har paper main

@STsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

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@Ravssaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@vvvikas0078212820-850 is the safest score to land in the Holy list. Par itna score karna zara mushkil hai, par namumkin nahi.

Bhai, itna score unhi ka aa sakta hain jinka optional acha hua hain.

Since, I fucked up in my optionals and GS2 mere liye toh almost impossible hain itna score lana️
kya optional hain@dancingminionaapka?

Chemistry

oh bc..woh sn1 sn2 e1 waala chutiyaap. bhai no comments.. hope u do well..

Haan bhai wohi

Bhai i feel for u.. but dil se hope ki u do well.. chemistry optional lena hi apne aap mein ek mahaan karya hain atleast from my vantage point.

Thanks and best of luck to you as well️

@NadigVinaysaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminioni dont know if my answer helps you. I'll just share my experience. Before plunging into UPSC, i had 1.5 years experience in JP Morgan. And then followed by 3 failures n hence 3 years gap. Didn't want to risk losing backup career also n hence decided to get back to IT. Started applying for jobs and very few companies responded n that too they were startups/semi-MNCs which i didn't want to join as I wanted time to study again for CSE. Fortunately i got offers from 2 very good MNCs in 2.5 months. JP Morgan again n Oracle. Worked in Oracle for 1.5 years again before quitting after prelims this year as management didn't agree for 3 months leave.

What worked for me?

Referrals : very very few interviews got scheduled through consultants. College friends, my colleagues who were 10years experienced helped me get an interview opportunity and all i wanted was that. I had faith in my tech skills.

My answer to gap: i wanted to follow my passion and if not by 25 i couldn't have done it ever. And now I'm done with cse, i want to start my career in IT. I even told to few that I'm 26 so don't want to mess-up with my career anymore

Few things that struck them in my resume (i think so):

• Hail from #1 regional engineering college in Karnataka ( not iit/nit). So most managers were aware of the college name as i was searching in Bangalore only.
  National level tech paper published. An exciting mobile app developed way back in 2011 when there was no Android in India. Tech challenge winner certificate. And some interesting projects.

My suggestion:

Please save your interviews referred by your friends to the end. Until then Attend every interview shortlisted even if it's a startup, you can always refuse joining it if uninterested. Because You'll get to know the questions trend in the market. After you prepare for variety of questions, attend interviews arranged through referrals.

Prepare with utmost seriousness. Remember they are not fools to hire someone who has gap. So you have to prove yourself that you are competent enough even to the day. i was stunned to see JP Moragn drilling me for 6 rounds + HR round for its own ex- employee before selecting me.
Be mentally ready that hunting jobs in IT takes 3-5 months.

Good luck!

Thank you for such a detailed post. I really appreciate it.
I am going through the exact same situation. Looking for jobs in IT.
can I PM you ?
How is Oracle by the way ? How is the workload ? Thinking of applying in Oracle

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@pysh12950said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@Jharsugudakanishak has written only 7-8 papers and in 3 of them crossed 100 ...in only 1 he got 67 and people generalise it

This.
He wrote 8 vision Full Tests and got more 100 in most of them. Even 110 in some of the tests.
and I believe only in GS3 he got around 70. So if you comapre, apart from GS3, his final marks had a good correlation with the vision test series marks.
I don't know why people generalize it

@utkarsh_mishrasaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

I think 100 and above consistently in vision generally does reflect in good marks in mains too. There are a few exceptions who score lesser in tests and still do good in final exams, but yeah consistently good marks in test series does reflect to an extent in upsc.

True, I have hardly encountered anyone consistently scoring 100 in vision and performing badly in mains. Well yeah, there are exceptions, but those are rare.

@Biryanimafia_ said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@utkarsh_mishrayes, I do see your point. I just have a hard time accepting Vision scores and UPSC scores as linked in any way...Once bitten, twice shy.

I think the key is to find the median not the mean (of test scores) in Vision tests.
There is a huge variation in marks awarded by evaluators in tests series. Some correct the copies very liberally and others very harshly. In the end there is a huge 40-50 marks gap between your lowest and highest score. In these scenarios the mean is distorted by these highest and lowest marks.

so, finding a 10 mark window in which most of your marks lie is a good way of finding your optimum test series score score.

for eg in Kataria's case the window is around 97-105 marks, ignoring the effect of his highest and lowest marks.

@zombielandsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@Caesari used my real name @ telegram which resembles with a girl name. boys started messaging me personally, "mam strategy bataiye na"

Haha, bahut tharki log hain telegram pe.
Some people have complained about it earlier as well.

@bevancom,
@DKTka alt account lagta hain

@bevancomsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminionI don't know who DKT is.

you will know him, when you'll see his name in newspapers after the results

@Chanakyasaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@zombielandtg pe bol rahe hain optional ki scaling chal Rahi hai...huge gains for geography and hindi lit. Results can be declared anyday after this Friday, latest by 13th

koi chemistry main bhi up-scaling kara do

Got this vacancies list from Telegram (Total 936 vacancies)

@parissaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@Jharsugudapls send link invite. Thank you

bhai just type @postmains2019 in the search bar on the main page

guys, I have really fucked up my Optional Paper 1.
50 marks ka toh seedha galat hi hain.

Do I still have any chance ?

@ranyo_asokasaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminionwhich optional ... right or wrong depends on examiners correction..what if he marked u good?l and ur lucky ?result aane wala hai..hold ur self n ur nerves...jus throw off the ques papers els u woild end up overthingking and seeing again n again n marking..ATB ..hve faith..

thanks man.

But bhai science optional hain. Yahan kam hi scope hota hain examiner ke discretion ka.
Jo galat ho gaya woh toh galat hain hi.

@kochikaamesaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@deceptrixI don't think filling more pages gives any sort of advantage at all. Obviously one needs to write minimum words but I don't think more pages gives any sort of advantage, particularly if content is irrelevant.

It does give a psychological advantage imo. It's hard to fetch good marks in 15 markers if you have written only one page, even if your content is highly relevant.
After all the examiner evaluating is a human being and is prone to biased and prejudices. So, he or she may award you marks for writing more.
IMO, A good rule of thumb can be to write as much as you can while staying relevant to the question.

@vvvikas0078212said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@TETRACYCLINEIf pre answer key is declared, people will go to court and then upsc won't be able to complete process on time. Mains ke question jaise bhi ho, but pre ke question ka standard itna ghatiya ho gya hai ki luck based hai. You can't know the answer for sure in some questions even if you have all sources.

upsc ne level playing field banane ke chakkar main luck playing field bana diya hain,
at least pre main toh

@hirockyrocks7101said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@abhibhai, he failed in IIT, completed B. Tech in 5 years. Then selected in IIM. Placed in one of the best MNC in Singapore. Left job, selected as IPS in very first attempt, became IAS in second. Now posted in one of the most backward area (manohar thana) in jhalawar district of rajasthan. Humble person, ready to help people, gave anecdote from his service life what makes him so satisfied in it, you should listen to it.

Bhai much has changed since. He was posted in Jodhpur and now he is in Ajmer.
Check his LinkedIn Profile for more details

@BGPsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

what you guys are doing nowadays.. i mean from study point of view?

from studying point of view ..... nothing
from other point of view ........ also nothing

@BGPsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

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hey the pdf is not uploaded. Can you upload it again ?

@Behemothsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

The silence is absolutely chilling. Its a matter of day or two or three. Lets keep the forum alive.

koi fake pdf daalo, forum pe activity badhaao

Telegram pe mahaul hain ? Wahan koi result date ke prediction chal rahe hain kya ?

@Shy_guysaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@kochikaamesir...Got this.a relative..Ab ka khu bhaiya inko...

Ignorance is bliss

@Caesarsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@ManchesterUnitedCAB: 1. tries to correct injustice and persecution faced by minorities in neighbouring nations
2. Will help boost image as a regional leader
But,

1. Judicial tenability, as Art14 applies to both citizens & aliens
2. Concerns about secularism(religion as the basis)
3. Inclusion, exclusion of nations(why not SL Tamils, Nepal, Bhutan)

Hyderabad: 1. Needs thorough investigation
2. If accused attacked & were trying to flee, then retaliation was necessary
But,

1. If not true, it amounts to custodial death(not encounter)
2. Will open a pandora's box with similar demands in different cases
3. Against the established structure of state(sep of powers)

Personal opinion: Against both CAB & encounter

I learned a peculiar thing yesterday, that an undertrial cannot be handcuffed. Only a person convicted in a court can be handcuffed. In Hyderabad vet murder case, all the 4 accused were not in handcuffs and may that gave them an opportunity to run.

sources -
https://indiankanoon.org/doc/730702/(1995 case: SC verdict)
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/no-handcuffing-of-accused-except-under-magistrates-orders-sc/articleshow/72421198.cms

@Chanakyasaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

India has seen numerous issues which had divided the country sharply at that time. Land reforms, reservations, reorganisation of provinces,Shah Bano case just to name a few. However in the long run, we have to accept that these decisions were taken only after following the democratic process, and hence, we should look beyond our individual comfort, both physical and psychological, and accept these as the will of the people.
Now coming to the present, article 370,NRC,CAB and most importantly Hindutva have been a fundamental element of BJP-RSS agenda. These big steps have been taken just after elections, probably because these were the major issues on which BJP has fought elections consistently and getting an increased majority validates their claim that this is the will of the people. Now we can say that elections were hijacked by superficial issues, or that BJP benefitted from a weak opposition, but I guess the fact is that elections are the only way to determine the will of the people, atleast in the present circumstances.
More specifically, CAB is a law and hence can be reformed if that indeed is the will of people, after the next elections. Also it's not a blanket provision, rather it's an ad hoc measure which is limited to immigrants who entered India before 31st Dec 2014. Now the countries and communities that it's limited to is purely under the prerogative of government, and can be extended later on to other communities and countries as per the will of the people.
We are at a stage in history where several notions which were considered infallible a few decades ago are being challenged and contested. So it becomes imperative that as citizens we behave in a responsible democratic manner, just imagine what would have been the history of India if any of the groups/individuals had reacted to the issues of Shah Bano, reservation,land reforms etc the way some people are trying to portray this CAB.

Bhai I get it, but CAB+NRC have created a lot of panic and fear among the Muslims. They are starting to feel that the government and it's institutions are anti Muslims. They are becoming more skeptical about there future in India.
Also, in these past 2-3 years successive legislations have been passed which directly affect the muslims like Triple Talaq, Art 370, Ayodhya and now CAB. We can debate about their merits and demerits but one thing is for sure that these changes have led to anger and frustration among the Muslims that a Hindu Majority govt in which they have hardly any representation are making these laws which are profoundly impacting their both personal and professional lives.
The essential parity between Minority and Majority is the bedrock of secularism and constitutional morality. But in these recent times, sadly this parity is indeed broken and due to this communal harmony of the country is severely threatened.

@bevancomsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Bhai log life mein bahut kuch sahi nahi hota.
They were given numbers by people of india to do this and they r doing it.
I was in full favour of abrogation of article 370 and even for nrc for assam but cab isnt understandable and neither is nationwide nrc.
As for misguiding youth we r already misguided.I had the chance to study in the elite institutions of the country and had the chance to interact with even more.What is taught in the name of so called humanities optional subject is demeaning of our armed forces and only teaches the good deeds of few people who were there when ncert curriculum,ignou curriculum was designed.
I even had the chance to read whole of ignou course for socio and sometimes feel pity and sad of the way our freedom fighters other than gandhi r portrayed and the extreme negative light in which hindu religion is portrayed.
I had the chance to listen to officers sitting in MEA feel sad of thier extreme orientations.
I had the chance to read the subject "social transformation in india" in one of elite institutions of social science and felt sad of the way kashmir situation is shown.They always talk of pampora case and without proof profs point fingers at army but never told about what had happened before army went there(read girija tikoo gruesome death and rape).They point what is happening today but I know the horrific reality when I ask people like parents and grandparents who had to leave their home,business etc which they had built over years in middle of night.
So dear friends things r never fair in life.
I also feel sad of they way tina dabi is able to get thru pre while someone close to me could not as she was from general category.
I also feel being cheated when obc friends of mine with much better salaries than mine were able to get into better iits and iims than mine with 78 percentile while i could not at more than 99.
I feel cheated when previous goverments brought such a scheme where my sister could only get into lady hardinge medical college with better marks while someone from other caste with lesser marks managed aiims.
I feel cheated when a leader says minorities have first right over nations resources as someone in power needed votes from specific community.
I feel cheated when I paid 8 lakh tax last year while someone with a 35k stipend protests for a increase in fees from 10 rupees to 600.And this 8 lakh was because my parents worn torn clothes 20 years back so that they can save money on their childs educations since the day she is born.
So friends somethings are not fair and mistakes do happen in life whether being born in a specific group,or mistakes from people.
Mistakes might have happened in passage of these bills but government was given power by people of India to enact laws and it is within their right to do so just as it was within right of vp singh govt to bring quota as it was within democratic framework or virtual collapse of abdulla govt in 1990 as it was elected with democratic framework
Jabh pehle mistakes huyi to everybody was quite and we consider it as normal and instead consider what is happening today as mistake.Who knows what happened yesterday was a mistake and what is happening today is correct.

P.S-To comment a move as good or bad we must have knowledge from not only what hindu has been writing but from a wide wide wide range of sources extending over years books and authors.And I believe most of us(99.999999%) arent qualified to do so(including me) don't have it.
So yes some moves will be good for some and bad for otbers.Just as in past even bad moves got passed and many including family suffered so as this time shall also pass.

Unlike comments on the top this was not neutral and was not written as a upsc answer.These are not there to hurt anybody feelings but was a compilation of my experiences and extensive reading of social topics,newspapers and lextures since 2011

r/humblebrag

@Ragssaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@whysoseriousWhy did you start disliking previous posts. Aur kintnay logonkay Sath eisa kiyatu.
Isay kuch hoga nai, tu do Kiyato hum 4 ids say karengay. Phir donoka time waste hoga - aur kuch nahi.

Absay, comment karna hai to current aur related post pay karna, previous post pay nai - woto cheating hai. Cheating karna band kar.

Arre yar bhai. Let it go! He is just messing with you.
And why are you worried about these worthless internet points anyway ?

Aaj bhi nayi aaya result
Let's hope kal to aa hi jaye, ab weekend pe wait nahi hoga

@kochikaamesaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminionabhi to shaam baaki hai dost

bhai mahaul nahi hain aaj ka

@John_Titorsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

since result to aa nhi rha
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@missionmangalsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Officially wasted 74 days now. That’s one-fifth of the whole year. Such a travesty..

Bhai thik hain aapko realise ho gaya.
But hum log ko toh realise mat karwayo

@bevancomsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Now I am seriously praying to god.
Bhagwan kal ki subah naseeb na ho.
Utha le bhagwan.Ab aur torture sehan nahi hota.

If you and@DKTare anxious and praying, toh muje toh suicide kar lena chaiye

Result aaj bhi nahi aayega kya ?
Ab weekend kaise katega

@zombielandsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminionto yo yo choti Singh has posted that result will come next Wednesday or Friday. Result will not come this week. So relax or remain worried for seven more days

Nahi yar!!, Abhi ek week aur

@bevancomsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@zombielandWho is yo yo choti singh?

@Yo_Yo_Choti_Singh
He got 104 rank last year.

@TETRACYCLINEsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

result ke intazar me time kat nhi rha isliye itna lamba post likh rhe
ab result ki koi umeed nhi lgtahai

Haan bhai aaj toh nahi lag raha!!
Ab chalo Monday se wohi cycle repeat karenge.

@HermioneGrangersaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@bevancomBhosle Sir’s board. Towards the fag end of the interview process. He is charming. But tests you absurdly. After about 25 minutes of making me talk, he comes nearer to me, Says beta paani pee lo, coz it’s not over yet with a smirk

Haha, that's very unconventional especially for a UPSC board member.

If it's not too much can you also give a brief transcript of your interview ? What sort of questions were asked ? On which areas did they focus ?

@Caesarsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@ManchesterUnitedbhai Mr.Sai has his biases and they come up during many discussions, remember a show on privacy where he was adamant to prove that Whatsapp messages cannot be traced anyhow, and even refused to budge when a tech expert(Jatin Jain) put forward how it could be done. Excellent to discuss judicial reforms, nonetheless.

yeah you can easily see his biases once you start following him on twitter.

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Awesome video explaining the power equation in dictatorships and democracies and Why some dictatorships are stable and some are not ?

@Katsumotosaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Please suggest some motivational movies...

Rush 2012

@vision2020said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminionThis is the best suggestion. I listen to 'Lost but won' from the climax whenever i want to feel thrilled.

Yeah man, awesome movie. It's impossible to feel low after watching this movie
" rel="nofollow">Lost but wonis the best title song that I have ever heard in a movie.

@Kira0705said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

Bhailog padhai Jari rakho result aaye na aaye
Lage Raha, optional, newspaper etc.
Ab upsc itna delay Kar Raha h toh kya Kar Sakte h

Telegram pe logo ne fake pdf wala ritual bhi complete kar liya hain.
Toh sayad result kal aa jayega

@Ragssaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@RealMangoTelegram worst group hai. Do not trust them.

Telegram is the Tiktok of UPSC
Random shit floating all around!!

Aaj bhi nahi aayega kya ?

@Behemothsaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@dancingminion7 pm is the deadline to call it a day.

Half hour to go

Life of an UPSC aspirant after Mains:
Morning: Bhagwan aaj result aane wala hain, please karwa dena
Afternoon: Bhai result aaya kya ? Bhai result aaya kya ? Checks Forum, Telegram, UPSC's website for results.
Evening: Lagta hain aaj bhi nahi aayega. Kitna time ho gaya!!
Night: Main madarch**d hoon jo isme aaya.

Next Day: REPEAT!!

@K_9said inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@White_DustBhai log fake pdf nahi mangte. Kuch neta log crowd mei panic create karna chahte hain through fake pdfs. Agar complaint na karo to roz ka yehi scene hoga. Improved fake pdfs correcting errors from the previous versions.

+1!
We seriously need a deterrent against these nonsensical acts. Agar kal ko kisi ne suicide kar liya due to these fake pdfs, who will be responsible then ? It's not ok to play with people emotions even if it's a joke.

@failuresaid inMains 2019 Preparation and Discussion Thread:

@K_9fake PDF send karo