@zombielandsome of my answer were very generic in anthro paper 2, rest was good
paper 1 was good
@paranthapijjaWith experience wisdom comes but here it seems they have developed arrogance and that too with 3 weeks of internet surfing lol
@Raja123paper 3 and 4 ka analysis kaha aya hai abhi
@Raja123paper 2 went fine
@TeddyWestside2016 had 15k plus candidates that may be one of the reason for variation
@ShubzRelevance of answers to what is asked is more important than quality of write up, sometime people write good stuff but most of that is not relevant or has not been asked.
Sometime we feel toppers answers are general or not to that level becoz we have been encultured to such external unnecesary standards and expectations,
quality of write up will help only in case of relevance.
so in my opinion, relevance and addressing all parts of question will fetch highest marks.
@Deltathe problem is that we can't compare as 2017 and 18 marking pattern were poles apart, even after leaving 2 questions and 2 substandard answers i got 113 in gs paper 3(2017) but even after writing decent answers and leaving only 1 question that too was able to define and write 3-4 points for a 10 marker,
was able to get 103 marks.
So comparision becomes difficult.
@DeltaIn my opinion there are 3 scenarios.
- Solving questions which you know better and leaving others.
Implication - base will be narrow and hence even after good score in questions you attempted, overall score will be insufficient. - Completing paper at any cost even lowering the quality of presentation or write up in questions we know better.
Implication - base will be wide but score won't increase. - Solving questions which we know better first and in good presentation style and quality and then completing rest paper without beating around bush directly writing points relevant or what we know even some bakar will help.
Implication - base will be wide plus good attempt will fetch high plus even average or below average marks in 5-6 questions will increase the score.
@ranyo_asokaIn gs paper 1 (yes).
In gs paper 2 (i wrote only 3 lines for us israel question as time was running out, rest completed).
In gs paper 3 (yes except cyberdome, in cyverdome i wrote need for cyber security in 21st century 2 lines plus 5 generic functions of cyberdome without mentioning anything specific i wrote cyberstalking, stakeholder participation, implementation of IT act, will result in national cyber security policy implementation and help cert in which was very far fetched and i am counting it as zero attempt).
In gs paper 4 - was able to complete but the quality of content and handwriting in last quote of kalam is doubtful.
@Yes_I_am_inbus ho jaye bhagwan.
@Yes_I_am_in2017
@ranyo_asokapaper was bit unconventional but not tough, yes questions were less direct but those who have not overanalysed and kept their nerves and wrote even general answers with apt examples will surely get good marks if not best.
@ranyo_asokai developed my answwr on team india approach of niti ayog, national nutrition mission, shg bank linkage, ngo-cso, aspirational district program
@Yes_I_am_inlily thomas is very relevant for rpa question, will fetch marks
@TeddyWestsideoffice of profit is under rpa too, dont forget sonia gandhi case
@TeddyWestsideokay
@paranthapijjasection 9,
maine exam ke bad dekha section,
mujhe exam me bus do yad aye section soecific sction 8 and 123, rest ka maine sirf provision likha hai, par ek provision mai kaise bhul gaya pata nahi social crime like sati,dowry how did i forget dont know.
baki likha maine sare provision,
rpa ka note banana kam aya atleast for this question,
notes banate samay maine section likhe hi nahi the
@TeddyWestsideoffice of profit is considered under section 9.
@Haeckelmere piche wali ladki last 5 mint me essay start kar rahi thi hindi ka as per me she will definitely fail, bechari pass ho jaye lekin dusre paper achi likhi thi wo
@Haeckelwhat you left in paper 1 and 2,
what questions u solved
@White_Dustobjective questions hold the key to qualifying language papers easily
@dr-ahmednaaz8567have you written ipc provisions in answer i was able to write introduction of electoral laws and rpa, disqualifications and judicial interpretations, then remedies (forgot to write social crimes point).
I am expecting 6.5 marks in this question (specific sections number likhta to aur acha mark expect kar sakte the, par exam situation me sections yad ana mushkil hote hai)
@TeddyWestsidemujhe material of construction me central asian role tha aur masonary work ye kahi padha tha utna hi likha maine under heading central asian impact
@chaitanya0458thats true, we can guess marking pattern of whole paper based upon past experiences but its very difficult to decipher marking of single question,
in vision ias or gs score they will award marks out of 5 if one angle is missing altogeter, but i highly doubt that same may happen in upsc, as content for grecobactrian elements is greater than central asian it may be the case that we may get 3.5 or 4 in this question.
@abhishek_pmujhe pura yad nahi aa raha par maine national urban mobility policy moving people rather than vehicles impact of delhi metro on growth of delhi ncr, verticle development of cities, less congestion leading to economic and environmental benefits, housing projects, transport sector jobs ye sab likha hai recent lucknow metro bhi dala hai.
waha pe answer acha likha hai maine my answe was based upon yojana article but ab jyada yad nahi aa raha exact structure of my answer.
@bevancomI agree with you brother for parts that coaching or test series etc are not must.
example wale part me i think pahle se exanplea banake rakhne padte hai ki globalisation aya to 3 examples, idea of india pe aya to ye 3 example, transportation pe aya to 3 examples, i also make concise notes but at the bottom of every page i write examples from newspaper yojana etc
its true that i did not had examples of indepth case studies for 30 40 percent questions, but even in those questions i was able to mention famous examples like biopiracy of turmeric in traditional knowledge, ralegan siddhi for watershed, etc.
its not necesarily a result of slogging test series but sometime a personal touch of hobby
your analysis is very cruel reminder of whats missing in strategy of masses preparing upsc cse mains, writing irrelevant answers has become a trend rather than whats asked people write what they know.
@K_9right, i think whether one does answer writing or not, brainstorming important topics before hand is must, you should have a rough draft for questions like inclusive growth, gandhi, probity in governance, disasrer management, especially case studies.
and in optionals especially for one like anthropology answer writing is important to retain memorised things
@Charlie_Charlieits india specific question from august offer to boundary commission thats it
@HaeckelI will get 1/5 in this part wrote very general 3 lines, hey god let m s swaminathan check my answer he will give me great marks in second part
@Haeckelmy whole answer of multilevel planning is 20 percent theory 80 percent examples
@Minimumwageimho answer writing for certain parts is must for remembering especially in archaeology, have been scoring good in antropology, essay and gs1 pulled me back last year.
@chaitanya0458
20 markers - great answer 14/15, good answwr - 12/13, average answer - 10/11
15 markers - great answer 10, good 8/9, average - 6/7.
10 markers - great answer - 7,
good answer - 6,
average answer - 4.
I analysed this with help of my attempt in paper and final marks obtained.
@Anthromani have 146 152
my attempt in paper 1 was 200 good 50 average,
in paper 2 it was 210 good rest spontaneous.
@chaitanya0458one should score 325 in anthro thats good score, not 300 around
@Anthromanpaper 2 was may ruin score this time.case study ki possibilties kam thi becoz of too much village india.
@Anthromanwhat questions u attempted in both
@Haeckelaa jayenge anthro me paper pura complete karke aaye ho and relevant ho to 300 marks milna pakka hai
@chaitanya045810 markers hold the key, writing good answers for this section increases score
@Anthromanconcepts likhne me hi space khatam ho jata hai sahab
@Anthromanwhat u wrote for kinship answer
@Anthromanshould have attempted last question
@al_birunivery hard to decipher last year they somhow gave very less marks in gs1 despite complete written good answers only they know why,
for paper 2 and 3 marks were awarded less liberally than 2017, gs 4 marking was on similar lines but due to very generic theoretical case studies this time nothing can be said,
My guess is that gs paper will be checked on similar lines this timw too
@Anthromanin paper 2 question 8
@Anthromanin bipedalism you must have referenced skeletal changes and associated hominization as per napier, and must have drawn diagrams
@Anthromanyeah if you know all three were scoring, there was scope of case study in sc conversion of mahars and chamars, and first question also had a lot of case studies 3rd question is very scoring
@Anthromanyou misinterpreted question,
the question ask impact of buddhism, jainism, islam, sikhism and neobuddhism (religions other than hindu) on status of scheduled castes or dalit (in ancient times buddhism and jainism gave relief to untouchables from rigid and orthodox thought of that time, in medieval period sufi islam gave rescued many sc with notion of equality, same goes with sikh faith , in modern times ambedkar and their follower adopted biddhism especially mahars and chamars which led to delegitimisation of traditional hierarchy.
nonconverts are still facing problems, even all these religion provided notional equality and caste system exist though witb less rigidity aming other religions too etc are points you have to write critical approach at the end is must.
@Anthromanif you have written definition well and tried to write all components of whats asked will get good marks,
map especially in regionalism question, neolithic site question, tiebto burman will help scoring
@Anthromanokay
@Anthromanits well known study biston betularia etc wont be penalised if you have written and explained in details exmaples of heterozygote( balanced) with graph and examples.
writing names of areas and tribes with sca will help increase score.
@Valar_morghulisRace question -
introduce race and racism(dobzhansky).
basis of race and racism.
morphometric criteria ashley montagu chart for caucasoid negrito mongoloid,
how these criteria cant be the basis for race on account of genetic studied blood group polymorphisn, hla hp gm, serogenetics which go on to prove that all morphoscopic races have equal variations,
denounce basis of racism superioity of culture, iq, blood (detailed discussion of unesco statement on race).
*presentation, data, etc will help fetch more marks.
@Anthromanpaper 1 - 2, 4 and 6
paper 2 - 3,6 and 8
@Raja123koi rule hai kya ki optional discussion nahi ho sakte,
psir abhi do din se discussion ho raha tha tab apko prob nahi hui
@Anthromanbro these examples are peripheral the question is not regionalism its ethnicity and regionalism, see in anthro you wont be penalised for these examples but non relevant examples wont add up to score in map if you have drawn northeastern examples etc you will still get good marks.
@Chacha420okay chachaji
@Valar_morghulisquestion no. 7 is also good if you can present data well especially participant observation and applied molecular is scoring
@Chacha420hota hai yar pariksha isi ka nam hai
@Chacha420kiska
@Anthromanaap banao
@Chacha420nahi nahi 2 3 under all headings central state and local
@Haeckelapko acha hi milega bhai
@Minimumwagekoi thiner likhe ho
@Anthromanmy only point is ethnicity is not the driving force in telangana mp or vidarbha,
can be said in relation to jharkhand, northeast(bodoland, mizoram, manipur, nagaland)
recent case of gorkhaland can also be added
@Minimumwageexpect 3 or 4.
@ranyo_asokais bar ke daf-I me hobby ka page nahi tha na
@dr-ahmednaaz8567Case studies were theoretical this time
@ranyo_asokaarc ka use bhot tha is bar case study ko complete karne ke liye
@Charlie_Charliemost of your points like evergreening, generic medicine, utility patents are not correct, as question is direct such direct wrong answer may create bad impression.
i wrote indian patent act which prohibit patenting things already present in nature or tk, cbd nagoya bd act 2002, local biodiversity register and tkdl.
i had tk in my 7th semester under heading traditional medicine and pharmacognosy hence knew very detailed answer but resisted myself to write technical things and wrote govt steps only.
@pysh12950merit and demerit of both options are must for good marks
@Raja123tk does not qualify as invention under indian patent act, plz have a look at this, have worked in local biodiversity committee as intern for mukne mam university of mumbai
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.wipo.int/edocs/mdocs/tk/en/wipo_iptk_ge_2_16/wipo_iptk_ge_2_16_presentation_12javed.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjIsIqPtazlAhWMLY8KHbY2A6AQFjABegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw2xWnNFAussffpqFp_vM20J
patent registration worldwide is limited and biopiracy is reduced due to tkdl and cbd nagoya etc
@Haeckeltkdl details me likha ho agar to 30 40 percent marks expect kijiye
@Charlie_CharlieCbd nagoya bd act tkdl tkrc etc fill 3 pages becoz you have to write all these in sufficient details including their structure to get good marks,
in my opinion, you will get marks for what u have written right for rest you will not be penalised but wont be awarded marks for wrong content especially if u have written in point format
@bevancomeverybody thinks and write differently thats the beauty of upsc, the core aspects of answer must not be tampered with if you have written core points examiner is asking u will get marks for sure no matter what the discussion is about there are various questions like globalisation secularism culture indias changing image inclusive growth where every answer will be different but in questions like traditional knowledge food processing cyberdome visweshrya there cant be much variation.
@Raja123i have written introduction of traditional knowledge and threats to tk in terms of biopiracy with known examples such as turmeric, then started with measures 1. patent act 2. cbd in details with indias position ratification objectives nagoya protocol access and benefit sharing protocol 3. bd act nba sba local committtess with flowchart importance for preservation of tk and mentioned some formulations under register
4. tkdl tkrc csir initiative success story what it is how it protects traditional knowledge.
though i knew things at length and in more technicalities but space is full, this avoidance came with wisdom in previous attempt i am sure of getting good marks here in this question, but cyberdome and visweshrya are two my concerns rest paper was good.
@Charlie_Charlieto be honest i was lucky, this question was quite specific for people who do not know, some of frnds at centre wrote 3 and 5 lines for this.
@bevancomlast year essay gs1 marks affected, writing direct answers help get good score this is the take away from last year
@bevancompaper kaisa gaya ye dekhne ke liye question ko subparts me divide karke marks ka analysis karna chahiye, last year ka marks ke jaise hi checking hua aise consider karke faisala nahi le sakte, every question paper has its own character, interview calls depend upon following factors -
- Kisi paper me bhot kam marks na mil jaye atleast average in all papers is must.
- 2 3 papers should be exceedingly well.
- papers are left blank for more than 1 or 2 questions.
- optional ethics case studies essay philosophical determine rank in the end.
@Yes_I_am_inbhagwan kare aapki bat sach ho jaye, hum log acha kam kar sakte hai aur sab paper check karne wale aur bhagwan ke hath me hai luck do matter in this exam, interview and essay in both marks are dependent upon evaluator too.
@Charlie_Charlieyes bhai paper completion is key, last year ke mukable mera performance yaha acha raha, paper 1 complete, paper 2 (did not get time for 1 10 marker) paper 3 (barring vishwerya and cyberdome rest was okay, i have written very general for this two but rest was structured), paper 4 - complete.
optional wrote complete (quality of last 15 marker in both paper not to level of others, so effectively 470 me se hai ladai).but last year bhi aise hi hua tha but did not affect anthro score that much
@LonewolfIndia's announcement, efforts of other countries iss and features.
space station benefit for scientific experiments, new material development, manned space mission, interplanetary space research etc too generic points
@sernihilomeans if more than 2 questions are not attempted totally it hampers score
@bevancomoutline i remember if someone ask me to write what details i have written i wont be able to replicate exactly but yes outline of what subhedings i wrote i remember.
@Yes_I_am_inbhai anthro paper 2 me acha ata hai score dont worry, and yeah case studies were different this years no one know how and what will be awarded, leaving 40 around marks in all gs paper is not bad at all
@TeddyWestsidebhai i just said about evergreening not about any other topic or answer, second thing core of answer is determined by keywords in question yes i am no one to decide and i am not deciding even as i already stated clearly in multiple of my comments that answers do vary and they should thats the beauty but for certain questions they dont like i did not know specific of vishveswarya, cyberdome if i write cyberdome is of certin and not of kerala police will that be right,
evergreening is about extending patent by mncs of existing patents, compulsory licensing is about licensing under section 3d which are irrelevant of traditional knowledge.
baki apko aise laga hai ki mai specific areas bol raha hu aur wahi sahi hai aise bol raha hu to aise bat bilkul nahi h I want to clarofy this
@kanailalbal115290s
@kanailalbal115what about u
@Yes_I_am_inbhai kyu le rahe ho
@Yes_I_am_inmil jayenge bhai
@kanailalbal115pm me
@Lonewolf
Defined vulnerability and its imp in disaster management.
harzard and setting specificity. categorisation of vulnerabilities.
3 types geophysical social economic with some examples like earthquake flood and climate change.
@paranthapijjanah bhai ye answer bhot logo ne likhe hai mere frnds ne bhi especially vulnerability wala to sabne likha hai mere piche wali bandi ne economic vulnerability me poor people with no shelter are more vulnerable to cold wave likha hai
@paranthapijjabus sab mehnati bacho ka ho jaye
@Charlie_CharlieGood answer
@Anthromandont worry bro.
leaving forum forever, ab forum pahle jaise nahi raha, anonymity ka bharpur fayda uthaya ja raha hai yaha second thing, 290s in anthropology is not great score,310 plus is hard below that is achievable with completion of syllabus and revision, i have not disrespeced anyone on forum but still have to face this and for what reason for sharing some answers, not all answers are fine or correct, i myself said that i have left one 10 marker in paper 2 altogether wrote bakar in cyberdome and vishve..but to no avail i have been attacked, i am not that stupid to reveal who i am, have already got job in state.
I thought that remaining active on forum till results will keep momentum but its otherwise.
goodbye.
all the best to all including people who spread hate.
Mujhe aaj kayi msgs aaye, kafi chize kahi gayi boli gayi, jo maine pichle half hour padhi.
My 5 points -
- I have never done any showbazi and main khud se ghar ghar jakar marks batata nahi fir raha, mujhe kisi ne pucha to jawab diya, tkdl ka question ho,marks ho, vulnerability ka question ho na maine debate start ki na kuch.
- mera character assasination karne jaisi konsi chiz maine kar di hai.
- mai koi sarv gyata nahi hu post mains ke sare comment padh lo eksath mera koi galat intention nahi samjh jayga.
- mera name nahi jante tab itna kuch bola gaya kuch log to mujhe fraud bata rahe hai its really really painful, mai apni koi identity kabhi reveal nahi karna chahta, mere anibhav ache nahi rahe hai is mamle me, forum koi 5 dosto ka group to hai nahi ki misuse na ho, jab bina kuch jane one sided bakar subha se hui.
- mere man me kisi ke liye dvesha nahi hai.mai koi expeet nahi if my knowledge or info has no use for the group and if u ppl think its not relevant or ill intentioned then i wont post anything.
all the best to all.
bhai apse mera koi bhed nahi hai..@kutta
baki sab result ke bad dekhenge kya hota hai this exam and luck both are cruel, rest i dont have anything against u dil se.all the best to u too.
@Shubzyeah you are right in past there have been people i also saw dawson link today.
@dr-ahmednaaz8567rahne do bhai ab interview ki hi charcha karte hain, mains me jo likh diye likh diye
@TeddyWestsideThanks bhai all the best too
@missionmangalWhile there is no denying of importance of accountability in social life but right to privacy has to be given its due status.
Social media is very useful platform if we handle it with a pinch of emotional intelligence.
@Yug_ We all should be optimist about ourselves and do our bit,
yes the interview call is dependent upon multiple factors marking pattern, competition, essay and optional performance, category and last but equally important luck (fortune favours the brave).
When the variables are too many we can't be sure about whats gonna happen, hence its better to be prepared as if you have to appear for interview next day,
in the past i have seen people with no hope to crack through mains becoz of inherent pessimism to get into interview roll call and missing final list by some marks just becoz of lack of mental preparation for interview,
many students with 820 to 840 have not been able to clear the final cutoff becoz of less marks in interview,
i know its highly subjective stage of exam and even most prepared have got less marks in interview many times but its also true that those who are mentally prepared for interview, those who give mocks fumble less and get atleast average marks in interview.
One must always be optimist about oneself, but the decision one takes must be rational and forward looking.
@ranyo_asokaexam ke limited time me whatever we write is our best, if for same paper we get even 20 30 more minutes most of us will write good answer even for those questions where we feel we have not performed well,
to write multidimensional answers what we need is brainstorming at hand and that needs time, hence quality of answer reduces.
Thats why we should not overanalyse and worry now as we have hours for every question to think now plus internet ( but in exam hall what we have is 7 or 10 mints).
@paranthapijjaye to achi bat hai, agar neat draw kiya ho to he will be impressed. Most people put maps even where there is no direct need but for a question like border issues map is very relevant.
how will ews affect cutoff, I am not from ews, both parents in govt job, what are chances that it may hamper cutoff for unresered general category students.
this is not debate about pros and cons of quota, i am neither for nor against ews quota, this is an objective debate to ascertain how many are availing benefit how it may impact chances of non ews general candidates.
My sister failed to take admission into b.ed distance despite 2 more marks than last year general marks cut off, becoz ews took many seats in general.
I just want to know peoples opinion on how ews will impact upsc cutoff
@GloriousMess26the real problem with my sisters process was so many ews taking general seats, in her list she said out of 27 seats for general 19 were occupied by ews people 2 by obc 1 by sc, and cutoff increased by 4 marks for unresevred general.
I know things can't be compared between b.ed and upsc but still this will have some impact, and with experience we all know anything can happen in upsc, ache marks bhi aye to rank me asar pad sakta hai bwtween ews and non ews
nearly 6 to 7 of my friends writing mains have applied with ews (though some of them have costly gadgets)
but some were imandar too who have not applied and some were not able to produce document till august date hence considered general category for mains.
overall what impact it will have is not clear to me, and i was not even worried par ab sister ne dara hi diya, rest sabki apni mehnat aur kismat
@kuttaright
@kuttaye sahi bat hai bhai, abhi tak to hum bhi general se hi sab jagah pahuche hain, as this thing is for first time thoda jankari le rahe the
@kuttahow was ur anthro this time, wch questions u attempted?
@kuttaall the best for ur optional
@Yes_I_am_inab ye log midlevel par direct lateral entry ki policy rakhna chahte hai
@ranyo_asokaamit bhai shah ki
@Biryanimafia_sabse important factor ye hota hai ki paper kaisa tha. like a very tough paper kitna bhi scale kar lo kuch khas nahi hota and paper easy ho to chahe jo karlo very less score nahi ayga
@Biryanimafia_which optional
@jumboThis is my opinion (not an expert one)
what constitute good answer varies from candidate to candidate and evaluator to evaluator,
but some points which i consider more or less settled are this -
exceptional and excellent answers -
a.Addresses the demand. (definitions are written well, body is in relation to whats asked)
b.relevant answer and structured accordingly.
c. visual presentation(graphs, diagrams, flow charts), plethora of elaborative examples (data strong answers use of eco survey, iyb, govt schemes, ngos, international organisations etc)
d.follows format needed in question.
e. coherence.Good answer has two or three of the above elements.
average answer - is correct write up but lacks compregensive coverage of demands of answer, is not data strong and lacks depth but some dimensions are superficial,and some are somewhat covered to looklike you have answered.
bakwas answer is when you dont complete the demands or dimensions of question due to lack of understanding of topic, lack of comprehension of whats asked, or due to time constraint (most common reason).
when it comes to marking pattern for all these, it varies from year to year, for e.g gs paper 3 15 marker, excellent answers in 2017 fetched even 10 or 11 but in 2018 hardly 8 or 9 may have been awarded..
so it depends upon standard they set and directives for evaluators.
*no one student can write 20 answers of a single category, all 20 questions are mix up of some excellent varying from 2 to 6, giod answer varying from 5 to 8, rest average to bakwas.
- i am no expert, this is all my personal opinion and plz dont abuse if anyone has a different view.
Happy diwali
@Rand_Al_ThorNah bhai do optional nahi hote apne se
@jumbowill get half or 1 mark more if filled pages, its my opinion only
@HaeckelWriting 5000 words ib 3 hours. great
@ranyo_asokastill some of their answers are lopsided and not good
@ranyo_asokags score ke model answer mujhe thik lagte hai, and largely wo word limit bhi mention karte hai for subpart and approach, and badi badi bate nahi likhte but at the same time demand cover karne ki kosis karte hai, vision wale kyu nahi banate ek model answer copy
@ranyo_asokayes, gujarat and maharashrea not to be included
@Lonewolfexplained small cultural pockets in terms of language, dress, cuisine, art and architecture then explained that unity in diversity and give and take among cultural pckets to result into national identity, example ab yad nahi aa rahe but this has been my line ab bhot jyada yad nahi kuch bhot sketchy hi yad hai
@utkarsh_mishraits very difficult to analyse, whats above average,
but i am sure about what is definitly average answer -
paperwise -
gs paper 1 ( 3 10 markers, 2 15 markers, rest paper in my opinion was above average).
gs paper 2 ( 1 10 marker was average harmonious wala plus antiisrael wala left for crunch of time, 2 15 marker were average - multilevel planning and 19th wala, rest paper was relevant and satisfactory for limited time frame).
gs paper 3 (visves did not know any specific so half answer very average, cyberdome average did not write specific, so 2 10 markers are average, forgot to write criticism of nia amendmebts in 15 marker rest paper was good).
gs paper 4 was average se acha, in one case study politicisatio of burwaucracy did not focussed much on materialism etc paper completed plus last 2 quotes very bakar answer due to paucity of time 4 5 mints me dono attempt kiya)
@Rand_Al_Thorthe question was essayish and is open to interpretation in my opinion if you have structured these points well then u will rewarded with good marks in this question.
@tssi dont agree but at the same time if you have included punjab, haryana and raj along with guj and maha in answer u may get marks
@tssi was not awarding marks, was giving opinion that if someone writes only gujrat and maha he will not get marks for this point but if other areas have been mentioned along with that marks will be aearded as the answer becomes correct and in what world maha and gujarat comes under northwest, even if climatically similar does not mean the question is asking western region too,
you should do constructive criticism and validate your opinion but you cant say that aap ye nahi karne wo nahi karne wale,
respect other peoples opinion too and i was not judgemental so u also dont become.
@utkarsh_mishrawhat about you bhai
@tssquestion did not mention agroclimatic question was about agrobased food processing.
@tssjahan panah tussi great ho, apka argument truth asserting lag raha hai lekin hai nahi, ye koi reason nahi hua ki ye sab sath me hai areas, and its not jist punjab haryana hp,rajasthan also are part of north western himachal has good prsenece of food processing and pharmaceutical too)
gujarat aur maharashtra northwestern me aate hai iska koi evidence literature or anything mile to mai man lunga apka point
@spriyadarshiache hi milenge
@tsshttps://foodprocessingindia.co.in› ...PDF
Web results
maharashtra - Food Processing INDIA
foodprocessingindia.co.in› r...PDF
rajasthan - Food Processing INDIA
open both pdfs, state introduction ki pahli lines padhe,
these pdfs have great information btw for the answer too.
lets be constructive and objective.
all the best
@dr-ahmednaaz8567raw materials, marketing robust msp structure, infrastructure, favrable govt policies baki aur do teen point likha hu par yad nahi aa raha ab
@tsscan you share here
@tssmaine jo pdf links send kiye wo apne nahi padhe sayad wo to govt source bhi hai
@tssagroclimatic factors food production se related hai na ki processing se, even eastern region of India has good agroclimatic factors which if technology and other things put in place can lead to increased production like that in punjab and haryana. raw material base for food processing industry is good in up haryana on account of irrigation, technology use hyv,mechanisation in short green revolution, robust msp mechanism in these staates and not becoz of agroclimatic favourability.
@tssbhai apka answer acha hai par usme do basic flwas hai -
- What constitute northwest india
- focus on agroclimatic role in food processing and linking it with climatology /physical geography where focus should have been on economic geography aspect.
agroclimatic is not responsible for localisation of food processing industries there.
Baki sabhi points apke great hai.
@tssi said na food production and processing are different things, robust msp include other crops, even agri market is good in those states, so raw material base is good,
second thing aap agroclimatic ki reasoning bataye nahi
@tssyes
@tssapko maine pdf diya to link
@tsswo koi govt source nahi plus maharashtra to nahi tha usme northwest me
@tssbhai govt sources are for everyone and plz move on ek prashna me jitna gyan arjit karna tha aaj kar chuke hum log
@Valar_morghulishehe ha bhai
@ManchesterUniteddefending was more, exam ke limited time me hum sab se kuch na kuch mistake ho sakte hai, par exam ho jane ke bad hame sikhna chahiye, atleast vaguely defend karna a wrong fact is avoidable.
apke kaise huye hai papee bhai
@Haeckelwo bhi badhiya wala
@GloriousMess26newspaper only
@Haeckelexpecting good score in gs paper 1 and 3 unsure about gs paper 2 and 4
@kuttakis year ki marking pattern kya hoti hai samjh nahi sakte, wo bhi paper to paper vary karti hai, jaise 2017 me paper 1 was chcked ok ok paper 2 and paper 3 me liberal checking huyi thi, paper 4 me strict checking huyi, in 2018 gs paper 1 was punished literally, gs paper 2 and 3 was not that liberaly checked, gs 4 continued to checked strict.
to agar 2017 se 2018 me change ho sakta hai to 2018 se 2019 me bhi ho sakta hai to hum log bus guess hi kar sakte hai,
baki apki bat sahi hai har question ideal koi likh hi nahi sakta aur agar likhega to paper complete nahi hoga so if atleast half questiond of are excellent quality rest even average and some below average will also do
@Lonewolfnearly same, average 5 marks increase huye hai but ethics sayad same pattern par hi check ho pahle jaise like 2017, 2018 i dont expect ki pahle jaise superlative marks ab gs 4 me milenge
@paranthapijjaaccording to sriram, before 2013, there were two optionals and jo usme acha karte the wo select ho jate the wo do optional pali aur socio bhi ho sakte hai, aise me general wider knowledge ki bhot kami thi selected candidates me increased gs focus and indepth study due to great quality of questions asked after 2014 has led to increase in selection of candidates with wider knowledge abut adminostration ethics gs, even 2 esssays instead of 1 had led to some good result for wider selection.
sirf pahli line sriram sir ki hai baki meri bakar hai
@paranthapijjayar marking chahe jaisi ho, jisme 2017 ke acha likha papers unko bhot score mila, jisne 2018 me acha likha unko score us sal ke hisab se sahi mila aur wo select huye even people 830 is 2018 is equivalent to 880 in 2017
@paranthapijjaessay ko gs ke sath hi rakhe to sahi hoga,
the thing is that after 2013, a candidate has to constantly focus on current affairs and general studies which was not the case before 2013,
so selection kisi bhi adhar par ho papers marking pattern me but padhte samay 2013 ke bad gs, essay par focus pahle se bhot jayda badh gaya hai, and 2011 ke pahle prelims me bhi prelims optional was determining factor to get enty to mains but aaj ki date me gs ke sabhi subjects ca, history geo, polity, eco, snt and environment ke bal par hi game hai no advantage to any particilar subject person. even to qualify prelims today there is need of very wide knowledge, prelims before was much about ratta, gs mains too only optional needed indepth prep before 2013,
even the trned of even rankholders of previous years failing next prelims is not that surprising if one know this
@Muruganimo 120 + 380 + 280 (essay,gs,optional)was forumula imo
@Haeckelbus ab result tak ke timepass hetu aur man ki bat ke liye analysis ye hai mera
130 + 375 + 280 rahega.
@Muruganmarking pattern pe game hai sab,
last year maine 2017 ke marking pattern ke hisab se cutoff 800 socha tha, jitne logo ne 2017 ke marking pattern se 800 se kam score lagaya hoga khud ka unka nahi hua mostly,
man lo last year trend ke hisab se mai bol raha ki 780 round cutoff, so last year ke marking pattern se kisi ka itna aa raha ho to wo interview call ke liye most probable hai fir chahe upsc ki marking pattern use 850 kyu na de de
@Charlie_Charliefeel free to express bhai, biased forum is real threat to upsc preparation
@dr-ahmednaaz8567bhot badi badi baate ho rahi hai waise aaj, par mera opinion hai 2017 marking pattern se 795 to 800 rah sakta hai
@Shubzyes yahi kaha maine kuch kaha nahi ja sakta be it essay gs or optional, kayi bar kharab paper me ache marks bhi mil jate hai last year optional paper 2 for me, even good answers do not fetct marks last year gs paper 1 for me.
hence sab ab check karne wale ke hath me.
@paranthapijjaessay ruined chances for many and those who got even 130s 140s last year in essay got in the list, essay was decider amomg top 1000 students in mains barring first 50 60 rest were on par with each other on gs scores and hence essay and for some part high scores in some optional made the difference.
at last interview me marks me bhot variation hai hi.
so these three variables were at work.
jiske dono ya teeno favourable ho gaye wo race me aage nikal gaya
Now its high time to leave the matters of cutoff, marking pattern of past and present etc debate to rest,
its not that its not beneficial but it is more important to focus on life and move on, any discussion above a certain point becomes not of much use,
What we can do till mains result -
- Follow the newspapers religiously.
- Gauze your daf thoroughly (this time hobby,interests etc will be part of daf 2, if you want slight changes in those part you can work there too)
- be urself (meet friends, visit places, sarkari ya private job jo mili hai bhagwan ke daya se uspar thoda focus intetview me ye bhi tp puchemge, read novels which can help in interview prep too)
- if not very sure of mains result (start preparinh parts where you lacked)
- be positive (gymmig, meditation, fit india ye sab karte raho)
- dont worry about result at all.
Every question has 2 or 3 core demands uspar jo acha likhega will definitily get marks no matter what (in gs)
essay me last year unhone idhar udhar ki badi badi bate bardasht nahi ki, they want us to write whats aked in essay directly divided between 4 or 5 parts. straight essays will fetch more marks ( intro must be strong, body should talk of whats asked, conclusion should be positive, anecdotes and quotes if any should be relevant and direct not beating around the bush.
baki pray karte raho.
optional me to sabko apna apna pata hai,
@ranyo_asokaYes one should move now on to next tasks at hand.
@paranthapijjahahahhahahaha, bhai gf ke sath ghumne chale jao
@ChampakWriting very specific, very detailed or technical aspects doesnt get rewarded it has been experience of many including gaurav agrawal,
baki aap apne opinion ke liye free hai and i respect your opinion,
but general studies answer should be presented well but with general writing
@ChampakI dont know the mechanism but it has nothing to do with our personal or social reputation
@bevancomdil jeet liye bhai insights ke niche to log apne website ka prachar karne aate hai mostly
@bevancomSuccess has many roads, like anekantvada in jainism
@bevancombhai aap tension mat lo, public forum pe delete ho jayga you just need to think on positive lines and be constructive, do what makes you happy yoga if you are not in delhi, play cricket, read non serious magazines etc
@bevancompaper se ane ke bad outline paper ke margins pe likh dena chahiye (fir yad ana nahi ane ka tension) nahi rahta.
Marking scheme differs widely,
but imo 15 msrkers me 9 to 4 hai marks ka variation.
and in 10 markers 3 to 7 hai variation.
I am expecting 800 plus score ab how much i will really get depends upon n number of factors.
But i have completed papers.
quality of bakar is less
irrelevant stuff is less.
hence i dont see going below this threshold.
plus essay me no f'ups this time, and gs paper 3 and anthropology paper 1 quality of questions is excellent.(we all need two three paper scores in superlative to be safe for interview call).
so abhi interview call ki asha hai
@Lonewolfyar marsk ka prediction karne jitna koi bhi precision la nahi sakta, gut feeling based upon answers written is what matters, cutoff se kam mark tabhi ata hai jab koi paper kharab hua ho, paper kharan to nahi hua koi isliye bola 800 plus seems possible to say of rank and all is illogical and irrational,
paperwise last year se marks badhne ke bhot chances nazar ate hai, but last year f'up has taught me some papers need to be exceptional plus marking is vague esoecially gs papers, my answrrs were good in paper 1 but still got in 70s in paper 1 gs, but this time i have 2 excellent papers to overcome such patterns of vagaueness marking scheme, but we never know.
I had the option to speak wrong speak vague but i was specific in my response about gut feeling, but the inference is not rank or top score but hope of surity of interview call rest all is baseless
@Lonewolflast year i predicted 790 800 around for myself , failed to clear mains by less than 10 marks,
becoz of less marks awarded in gs paper 1 comapred to my expectations, and straight 105 in essay.
i had no solace in other subjects as well like they were average score gs 2 3 me badha nahi score average se ya expectation jitna hi aya,
only anthro scores were on expected lines (jo generally sahi hi ate hai jo hum expect karte hai usse plus minus 5).
@Haeckeldil bahlane ke liye khayal acha hai ghalib, i saw on quora that a guy with 840 plus marks failed to be in final list, what do we know bhavishya me kya likha hai
@gomsimeena1472ye to param satya hai
@vvvikas0078212yes i got 30-35 less marks compared to expetationz due to less marks awarded in gs 1(shocker) and essay
forum has become useless with no constructive activity, unlike forum in past.
open, honest and clear presentation of thoughts lead to ridicule and untoward addreesses,
question discuss mat karo, answer mat likho, marks expexted mat batao with or withiut reason, aur karna kya hai kuch nahi,
i put 800 plus as my expected score most people seem to become pessimist aur ander ki bat to ye hai ki kayi log inme se khud hope lagaye baithe hai aise score ka.
This msg is not targetted against any individual, i am talking systemic issue here. plz free to comment.
@vvvikas0078212essay gs 1 paper wapis aayenge to badh sakta hai, on account of that, 10 percent ews will lead to cutoff increase for ur category, sala ias me bhi samasya hai as 72 seats only for ur,
for ur - 770 780 ke bich lag raha,
obc and esw - 40 marks less,
sc st like wise furthet 20 marks less
@TeddyWestsidedudh ka jala chach bhi phuk phuk ke pita hai
@Brickyes.
how were ur papers compared to 2017 n optional
@Sommerfeldgulabi gang
@GloriousMess26last year did vision could attempt only 6 tests,
this time gs score (attempedand vision abhyas mocks
@Dijkstrai dont have any insider info, but mujhe lagta hai 12 se 15 december ke bich result aa sakta hai
@TeddyWestsidewch optional
@TeddyWestsidecoaching ke model answrs se kitna percent match kar raha aapka answers, mera vary kar raha from 40 to 50 percent in some questions to 80 to 90 percent in some questios (i read gs score, lukmann model answers plus approach of vision ias )
@dr-ahmednaaz8567aap ka exit poll kya kahta hai dr sahab
@Shubz80s and 90s
@TeddyWestsideyes 2018 ki marking bhot strict hone ke bawjud 2017 se bus 35 marks kam hua cutoff kyuki log optional me ache marks la lete hai
@GloriousMess26i never ever followed ibc for 10 markers, but for 15 marks i used ibc this time,
in 10 markers in some questions introduction and conclusion of 1 line given.
@bevancombhai 90 marks in gs paper tak thik hai uske bad ek ek marks ke liye ladna padta hai,
even 20 percent of any model answer in most question will fetch 70 to 80 marks in strict checking (2018) and 90 to 95 in liberal checking (2017).
the real struggle is to get 130s in 2017 and 110s in 2018 which need completing paper barring 1 or 2 question where we dont know, plus good relevant content atleast 60 to 70 percent of demand of question must be addressed in most questions for such high marks,
people struggle to increase score only becoz they dont understand this simple thing...
your argument is not wrong altogether but any model answer prepared by coaching or any person after exam cant be ridiculed some of them are very great answers and presentation too, saying that all model approaches are rubbish or are not needed jeopardises our understanding of what really was asked
@paranthapijja2018
essay 105
gs 1 79
gs 2 98
gs 3 105
gs 4 86
anthro 1 146
anthro 2 152
@sat_009still dont know what went wrong in gs paper 1
@TeddyWestsidecompleting paper has advantage only when the written thing is not just for sake of completing,
should have some relevance and value
@paranthapijjahmmm
@paranthapijjathis year too i have very high hopes from gs 3
@vvvikas0078212cyberdome and visvesvaraya were not satisfactory but rest paper was good
@dr-ahmednaaz8567break up yad nahi bhai abhi par 969
@Ragsmost me second tough tha
@paranthapijjawhich optional
@bevancomsir that was 2017 where scores below 110 were not at all good, in gs paper 1 2 and 3,
if you would have got same in 2018 i wont have questioned that approach, deflate your gs marks by 25 percent for gs paper 1, 2 and 3 to get ur real marks for 2018 as you have not given last year
@Delta2016 and 2017 me same tha except (more liberal marks in essay and gs paper 2 and 3 in 2017, less marks in gs paper 4 in 2017 in comparision to 2016)
(2018 marks = 2017 marks in gs paper 1,2 and 3 × 0.75)
essay score in 2018 = 2017 marks × 0.75
@Deltathis does not give us definitive trend hence despite we know the past we cant predict the future
@Valar_morghulishow was anthro this time
@zombielandpaper 2 me main game hota hai har bar par score bhi thik aa jata hai, is bar ka samjh nahi pa raha mai rest paper 1 to bhot mast tha
@Valar_morghulis@zombielandhehe bhai bus anthropology me acha aa jaye sab sahi ho jayga fir
@Valar_morghulismujhe impact of media, impact of industrialisation ye questions ka thoda issue hua kafi generic likh diya maine, baki paper to pura complete hua, last year 10 markers tough the tab bhi 150 cross ho gaya tha,
paper 2 me decent aa raha hai score 2016 ke bad se trend yahi hai,
but paper 1 me differential bhot bada hota hai, between good and average paper
@sat_009i think paper 2 me upscaling hoti hai anthro me as i has more humanity type,
and paper 1 me upscaling utni nahi hoti jiski wajah se scores me differnetial aa jata hai bhot bar in between paper 1 and paper 2
@zombielandacha milega
@zombieland155+ 143 (2017)
146 +152 (2018)
want to cross 310 desperately,
the only thing which not workin in my favour is i forget things fast,anthro need good memory.
@zombielandno missed by 3 marks, less score in essay and gs 1 led to such thing happening
@Valar_morghulisI also wish sab anthro wale select ho jaye especially third fourth timers, baki subject wale bhi jo mehnat and improve kar rahe.
all the best bhai
@zombielandshould we draw phylogeny of ramapithecus on chest
@zombielandpaper 2 is so predictable.
@utkarsh_mishrac singh board not that good average tha score 152
@utkarsh_mishrasorry bhai pahle miss ho gaya tha
@Shubzyear to year variations are there,
2017 gs3 was checked with 70 60 50 40 percent contunuum,
70 percent for excellent, 60 for good, 50 for relevant, 40 for average
in paper gs1 and 2, seems 65 55 45 35 percent was awaded.
gs 4 was strict.
2018 me
gs paper 1 me 55 45 40 35 % (excellent, good, relevant and average)
gs paper 2 and 3 ,60 50 45 35 % (excellent, good, relevant and average)
gs paper 4 was 1 grade liberal than 2017,
in short marking depends upon -
- questions asked( specific or general - more number of specific questions reduces average score of that paper across the board)
- standards set for evaluator
- marking pattern
- which paper gets liberal scoring (consider if someone has done good in gs paper 3, liberal checking will be bonanza for him or her, consider if someone has messed up gs 2 and checking is strict there, it will be disaster for him ir her).
comclusion - not messing up tough papers (for marking)
and doing good where paper was easy and marking scheme is good will lead to great scores overall
@sat_009below average, namesake or wrong answers wont fetch more than 10 or 15 percent imo
@utkarsh_mishrai think he is right in relation to marking in csm 2018
@utkarsh_mishrasee my take on deatiled marking scheme sabke apne experience hai bhai
@paranthapijjaits true and as an admin we all have to confront such trends, with time and service experience we may be able to find some ways in real time scenario,
staying true to your duties, follwing the legal rational, staying within ambit of constitutional precepts may guide us but at the same time we should show strength and coruage to stand for right things
@utkarsh_mishrano one can write all answers as excellent, exceptional answers in last two years for me were 3 to 4 only,
8 to 9 good or relevant, rest average,
this time i was able to increase count in both but, certainly my exceptional, excellent and good togethet have not crossed 15 questions in amy paper, 5 to 6 answers are average no doubt about that in any paper, even toppers have not been able to do all 20 questions as great
@azam-imame434yes, even upsc has realised this, and now the practise of public disclosure of marks has been started so that private compaines find great talents from upsc aspirants
@azam-imame434except for deliberation of ansari sir, i like lukmann tests evaluation, as one of my frnd wrote tests there she was happy with the evaluation pattern
@foxmulderconscience cant be clear if one turns blind eye to wrongs being done
@gandhithis reminds me of the essay values are not what humanity is what humanity ought to be
@Sommerfeldbhot mushkil hai 2018 ke marking pattern ke hisab se itna marks chorne par itna marks, baki ab kya option hai sabke experiences alag hote hai mains me.
@Sommerfeldyes i too feel no matter how great quality u have,1500 ke attempt par max 780 to 800 score mil sakta hai
@dr-ahmednaaz8567i said tough and strict checking me paper kharab jana bhot nuksan deta hai, aur libetal checking wala paper acha ho to lottery lagti hai
@pmishra997125no other person croseed 340 and hardly 3 people above 325, so it does not mean anthro me scoring asan hai, fat jati hai bhai 300 cross karne me,
bhot ghatiya level ka yad karna padta mujhe to anthro me,
plus no such help for any gs paper as such, even socio question we write like other people, psir has advantage for whole gs paper 2 and essay too,
362 is not highest mathes me usse bhi jyada hai,
if 3 people score moee than 325 out of 800 plus it does not mean it becomes easy in anthro to score,
@pmishra997125bhot mahan log anthro me aakar 298 hi la paye hai, dono barthat mahan person is me,
second thing, consider anthro me apke 290 aa jaye acha paper likhne ke bad jitna psir me aa raha ho how ridiculout this decision will be
agar apke do bar psir me 240 250 cross nahi ho rahe hote to change karna banta tha,
changing after 309 in 2018 which is great score by all standards goes against evidence based policy making,
there are around 20 to 30 people in top 100 who got ias less than ur marks in optional,
so you see you have to increase score in othe papers,
300 plus se bhot jyada ek kisi bhi optional me consistently lena is tough,
anthro ne teen sal acha kiya hai lagatar, is sal se kya hoga only god knows.
aap service me hai thoda vichar kare in bato par.
i was shocked to see such thought tbh.
all the best man
@DKTbhai be constructive and civil, itne kam marks ke attempt me aap itna bada claim kar rahe ho, wo claim ki to ijjat rakho kam se kam, even if you somehow feel that u have written a great answer does not mean u can mock others.
I dont want to offend u, be free to criticise even this comment,
all the best.
@DKTbhai ek tarika hota hai bat karne ka, ye wahi sanki log hai jo kuch marks se rah jate hai apne attitude ki wajah se,
still all the best.
@dancingminionseems good answer imo for 10 marks
@Caesarall the best to all who are giving exam today
@Delta430 vacancies for other services
@K_9yar ews to is bar ur walo ki band baja dega, kisi ko ias chahiye to, 80 rank lakar bhi fir se dena hoga attempt
@K_9whats ur estimate for consolidated ias ips irs ifs vacancies for ur this time
@Deltaaur log cutoff kam hone ki charcha kar rahe
@dr-ahmednaaz8567Ram jane ab, waise result kab tak aane ki chance hai
@Deltaoverall 20 less seats
@Biryanimafia_exit polls bhot se hote hai sab sahi ho ye bhi jaruri nahi,
last year my analysis was around 800 (with 2017 marking scheme as base) with that i was not goin to clear the mains by 9 marks,
my final score was around 770 not even 5 marks less than written cutoff.
this year my analysis is based upon 2018 marking scheme.
plus i must tell you there are 400 plus people who really got 800 plus even in tough markings of 2018,
abhi to 5 6 ne hi post kiya hai such scores wo bhi barso ki mehnat aur anubhav ke sath,
every other guy ko 800 plus nahi milne wale but still around 10 15 will definitly get 800 plus from active people on this thread its my viewpoint,
jab tak 50 60 such comment na aye tab tak chinta ki koi vishay nahi hai
@Ragshmm yes bro, its impractical and untruth ki people wont cross 800, its a myth, hum sabko apna pata chal jata hai atleast interview call, last year mujhe doubt tha aane wala h ya nahi aur wahi hua, nahi aya,
bus rank me kuch samajh nahi ata kayi bar people think they will get 140 in essay get 160 and those who think will get 150 get 110, anything can happen but probability of happening across the board in all papers is very difficult
@Biryanimafia_best of luck bhai, law liberal check ho jaye bus, many frnds always got less there
@Biryanimafia_yeah there are many among top 100 from law optional too, keep your hopes high sometime we dont estimate correctly aur bhul sakte hai.
@Chacha420pure humor, so missing these days
@Ms-dhoniNo doubt but is bar aisa hoga aise mujhe nahi lagta
@pysh12950muslim league likhne par marks na kat jaye.
@TeddyWestsidekat sakte hai human tendency hai bhai, point galat ya ekdum atpata lage to below average score mil sakta hai
@ChanakyaI respect your opinion, and its valid too, but mentioning muslim league for voices which strengthened nationalist movement is still dicey imo.
imo muslim league weakened the indian national movement demands from time of nehru report to fornation of pakistan direct action day etc,
infact if you link with next question itself, it also complicated the process of transfer of power.
aap sabhi log sahi kah rahe hain...
vivad nahi hai koi...
bus ye bat hai ki muslim league likho bhi to next line me likh do ki bus initialy helped foster nationalism since lucknow pact to khilafat period but, gandhian phase encompass period from 1920 to 1947
@chaitanya0458question was open ended, my answer was mix of both, in my opinion you will be awarded equal marks
@TeddyWestsideyou are posting less imo you will get more
@dancingminionhhahaha chill kar bhai wo maje le raha
@Chanakyayahi bak******* negative mindset bhi create karti hai,aur upsc bhi nahi nikalta
mujhe to lagta hai scaling hoti hi nahi, some subjects they give liberal marks , and some subject they give less marks,
if someone has written relvant and good answer atleast meeting 3/4th of the demand he gets 60 65 percent marks in anthropology,
and if someone has written a factually and totally correct answer in mathes still he is given only 65 - 70 percent marks
@vamgaducan you explain me what with this 5 percentile thing
@vamgaduwhat is ur optional
@Deltavery arbitary.
@RaufNaScaling is done for both optional papers separately or together, i have seen people with very low in one and very high in amother how is that possible if equalisation is on total of two
@Ragsmany people get 300 plus in optionals and gs me itna bol nahi sakte
@vvvikas0078212see if an individual isAbut he is pretending/projectingBthroughout 30 mints period, his/her integrity creates doubt in themindsof panel members.
This leads to 30 40 marks reduction in score.
But this is only one of the factor, not all people who get low score are liars or lack integrity, most common reason i think is lack of conviction, and inefficient communication etc.
But those people who feel their interview was great still get low score they are mostly from A and B dichotomy presented above.
@Dijkstrahow was quality of answers this time compared to last year
@Dijkstrai have completed whole paper, but very general write up, very theoretical less case studies,
now i feel 3 15 markers , plus 1 10 marker are very general with lack of much thinkers,
fingers crossed
@Dijkstraapki service kaunsi hai
@Dijkstralast year too i thought that will get low in paper 2 still got more, whats ur opinion, is liberal marking behind it
@foxmulderajit pawar
@ranyo_asokayes theoretical points are most imp e.g case srudies and thinkers should not be too many, in limited space and time it may lead to extreme scores, if examiner understand context very high marks if he feels everything i hifi and beat around the bush one may get very less too
@DijkstraMost answers in this pdf are either too good or not possible in exam to write with such precision,
at times the body is there but the heart is not,
Anthropology is a theoretical subject, simple write up fetches good marks, and not bombardment of thinkers theories and so much stuff which even evaluator may not read in details.
When i see epg pathshala profs most likely of same level as that of upsc evaluator i find them as easy going and simple people and not some theorist who would want such detailed answers in limited space and time.
But the effort to compile these answers and the knowledge of the author is commendable, kudos to her.
@Dijkstrain molecular anthropology applied genetics answer i think the author has moved beyond syllabus, apne syllabus me applied genetics me jo molecular techniques hai uspe hi jyada focus karna tha, plus their importance for human origins, development and variations etc.
last year 10 marker question on recent molecular techniques was on same lines i feel
@ranahere999mains me difference aa jayga yar main thing is that,
another issue is, there are only 73 ur seats for ias, usme se atleast 5 obc, 3 sc st will take seats,
and ews ke bhi kam nahi hai, they will also get high marks( ews are nothing but general cateogory ppl with income below 8 lakhs) ews will take around 25 to 30 in my opinion in top 70, so infact general unreserved person is fighting for everything and chances for his getting ias have declined by atleast 50 percent i am tensed as ensuring rank under 70 is very tough, plus i dont want to repeat the cycle anymore
@ranahere999see 95 percent of ews will clear general cutoff for prelims hardly 2 3 marks difference, see ews guys have always been topping in all and bagged high ranks, 10 percent reservation is just additional help for them,
now if we look, many ews will clear all stages by clearing general cutoff and will lead to less seats for general this time
@ranahere999one of my friend has not got mail, he was unable to produce the doc written no in ews option and written mains should he be worried,
he has also been part of the letter movement to upsc for extension
@ranahere999mere jaiso ka nuksan ho jayega
@Ms-dhonimy friend has submitted dated 1st augusthow unlucky the girl is
@Ms-dhonionly those who qualified general cutoff have got hallticket its the truth
@vijay_on_missionSomeone i know personally did not appear in mains due to this,
for rest upsc call kar lo ek mint me pata chal jayga bhai
@vijay_on_missionyar bus rank ka issue hai, dekho rank ya list me ana interview par dependent hai aur mains me bhi kayi subject ke marks me thoda luck ka role hota hai, so its not east to get even 80th rank on a very bad no matter what efforts we put in, and consider if we get that 80 rank still not getting ias will bring down the energy and morale
@vijay_on_missionaa jaye bus yar
@foxmulderIn my opinion, extension should be given to ews till last day of mains paper, as procedures should not derail the intent,
if only 25 percent are able to avail the benefit of ews this year, it will give undue advantage to those who had ews certificate, i myself saw poor and needy people unable to get ews from rural and poor background and those who are only legally ews and not informally were with ews before the needed date.
I can't avail ews as my parents are in service, but discussing it as a case study.
@foxmulderbhai upsc bhawan me to bhot strict tha mahaul, kuch log ko to 1:55 pe entry nahi mila how desperate one guy was when he was denied entry, poor fellow i feel for him, my frnd who accompanied me for mains, she tried to calm him outside centres he was literally cryin
@Ms-dhonimy opinion is till final result does not come extension can be till then,
@Ms-dhoniif this is the case its wrong to other people,
@foxmulderyes
@Asli_hai_sabin which optional?
@Modernmanujaise
@TheHobbityes it may, last year penalty me marks kate the
@TheHobbitmere frnd ka kata tha 5 marks, in ethics he used sanskrit quote at one place,
not in essay, maybe essay wala bura na mane.
@TheHobbitplus ye penalty marks wala seriously 2018 me hi dekha unhone lets see what happens in 2019, at one place galti se margin ke bahar ek word chala gaya in optional, cant do anything now
@sernihilonothing will be deducted limited space is there so no one count words
@destinirules2354still unable to find the reason
but have written direct essays this time, not too much going here and there or unnecessary anecdotes just being to the point give more marks aisa feel hua mujhe,
last year i wrote flowery anecdotal things.
@sat_009very unsure as some people got decent marks with same content or structure still can't give excuses in upsc i made certain changes, this time i have played safe so that atleast average marks be awarded
@destinirules2354Values,
education -health
@destinirules2354can u mention here?
@destinirules2354dont worry these are good examples
@Asli_hai_sabKash aisa hota
@Asli_hai_sabat max +/- 5
All the stories of introduction of essay are vague, at max 10-15 marks are for introduction not the whole essay dependent upon that, the thing is that, we need good to the point write up in the body of essay, people who digressed from the topic or wrote very technical hi fi stuff or beat around the bush flowery language they only got less than 110 last year including me, its better to be rational.
@Dijkstrabeing too right or too left is actually harmful, centrist and rational outlook is rewarding no matter who checks, the best answercopy is one which does not reflect ideological biases and has sound opinions which are balanced between stakeholders,etc
@hirockyrocks7101Cag i think you mean attorney general
@pra7009055ews ke kitne hai kuch pata hai apko
@pra7009055laughable, even st has higher cutoff than this,
@abhishek_pmeena effect
@vvvikas0078212ye to mera answer hai,
@STMy geography part was not that good, history and society part was good, and marking is what makes difference, i found geography questions tough, food processing was not that specific as question demanded specific,
ocean current no time for map and diagram.
@RavsAnthropology manavshastra
@Lonewolfin my view marks wont go high in this paper, most answers were not that good, i have discussed answer with 5 6 ppl who gave mains gs 1 answers were not impressive, history portion hi sabne acha likha hai
@Asli_hai_sabprelims is 20 20 match (on bad day even afghanistan can beat world number 1)
mains is world cup odi round robin round (9 matches - 2 compulsory qualifying like afghan and bangladesh, rest imp matches).
interview is final match.
@hirockyrocks7101Interview decide the fate man, in post match presentation, there cant be change of result
@Ravs280 will be safe for interview call,
and marks will depend upon what value and quality u have in those 200 marks, if thats good rest 50 marks will also fetch you atleast 30 percent marks.
whats ur optional btw
@Ravswch questions
@Ravsyar optional me chor kar ana gunah hai,liberal checking huyi to marks badhte hai, gs me 2 badhe to optional me 3 badhte hai us sthan par
@RavsThose who remained neutral and presented both aspects will get 1 or 2 extra marks in this question
@vision2020atleast in prelims, 80 percent people know for sure,but in other stages the percentage drops significantly
@Shubzyar last three years ke top 100 me kaunse optional ke kitne select huye the dekhe hai kya apne,
sirf socio and anthro ke kitne hai dekh lo ek bar..plus success rate is also not that high ki 10 percent cross kar gaya ho
@abhishek_peveryone is same on those three case studies nearly.
@vvvikas0078212Its very risky, but its not like he is some newbie, he has given mains earlier too
@bevancomJitne efforts apne sociology ke liye kiye hai hats off,
but your anthro score was too low from 2017 liberal standard
@bevancomIts not difficult to believe, even many people here have studied most things; 3 4 mains wale hai kayi toh, jitne books apne mention kiye hai usme apko 320 plus score mil sakta hai socio me, lets hope for best.
my request is ki aap dusro ki chinta mat karo and kya padha se jyada kya likha ya likh sakte hain, ya interview me kya karna chahiye ispar discussion sahi hota
@bigboynot more than 20 25
@chandler_bingupsc may give 100 instead of 90s we never know but you must prepare for interview as apka koi paper bhot kharab nahi hua hai, to aise me mauka mil jata hai kayi bar
@VivekanandSfor selected people (125 was average in essay, 390s in gs, 280 - 290 average in optional)
@hirockyrocks7101gs 4....
@VivekanandS
For all mains appeared candidates 350s was average,
for interview call 380s was average in gs,
for name on the list 390-400 was safe,
essay was dealmaker or breaker last year,
if not too good, too low must have been avoided
Optional -
for unreserved category - 250 was average for all mains appeared,.for interview call atleast 260 270 were needed,
for safe(rank) 290 300 was a good score
@TETRACYCLINEwe must understand that only one girl got such marks in anthro last year, it means she had extremely good quality, as uske bad second third 330s me hai, We must remember even people get 325 in pub ad or geo, it does not mean everyone will get it,
i feel the tremendous growth in anthro numbers will put it down this year, if somehow this year bach gaye to agla year to pakka katega anthro ka,
people may disagree but i am telling as per upsc ways in past
@TETRACYCLINEEvery optional had its day, geo or pub ad or engineering subs,
so upsc need to find a new way,
me and my frnd (junior) 1s discussed he said all his frnds switching to anthropology,
i told him, aisa na ho 2020 me anthro me hi kate we never know..
@kiddolittle812hmm will get back after mains result
@TETRACYCLINEI dont understand if anthro people are getting good marks why they are upscaling it,
either the scaling does not exist or these people at upsc are blind and irrational
@zombielandlast year ke comparision me scores badhenge, as 10 markers were relatively easy
@TETRACYCLINEdiffers from year to year, 2017 gs too was decisive, in 2018 essay and optional had more importance
@VivekanandShai to sabke pas ye, maine padhi bhi hai ek bar
@VivekanandS10 mark Qs are the key to very good score in optionals,
becoz they are compulsory,
in others we have options
last year anthro marks in general kam the 2017 se (number of people with 300 plus score in 2018 were half that of people with 300 plus score in 2017, despite increase of 200 around candidates in 2018)
@VivekanandSQuestions were tricky, it was not downfall people with effort got marks, people who just completed things and were not indpeth got average marks like other optionals
@vvvikas0078212I played safe, i was confused about numbers so started with niti report cwmi, then in body drew a map, then doscussed various regions
@MycroftHolmes12000 students
@kochikaameHe wants that upsc calls him and give job in exam department by lateral entry
@abhinav23raj436there are 936 vacancies and the ratio is same as that of last year ×2.45