Mains 2021 Result declared - In or Out?

@LetsGetThisBread thank you so much. I wish you all the best. Hope you realise your dream this year :)

LetsGetThisBread,

HeNeArKr .

Out with PSIR :(

Hard times ahead!

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Dead Man .

Those looking for respectable alternatives for jobs don't loose hope, RBI grade B notification is about to release.

Saint_1,

@CluelessForNow Please don't make career decisions today. Think anything regarding career after a week's time.

This exam isn't as subjective as people claim.

Whether in pre or mains,when i worked hard with good answer writing and paper management, I cleared them.

When I didn't do these things,I didn't clear.

Most of my friends who cleared it before have again cleared it.

Those of my friends who didn't clear previously,unfortunately they didn't clear yet again.

Its not that subjective as we so often portray.

I will talk very straight and im sorry if it feels blunt

That feeling of giving best and things going well is common.

The reason for that is -

We judge our performance on an absolute scale instead of relative scale.

In my opinion,the day u start thinking that how u have to make ur answers best not just correct, it will do wonders.

U dont just have to beat the question but also ur competitors.

When u r able to scale up ur preparation to that level, try giving exam then and see its objectivity.

If ur love for academics is greater than civil services then kindly go for NET

If u think u can't scale up ur mains prep in a short time then go for NET

But if u r serious about civil services,then u have to prepare mains as if u r aiming for top rank not just IAS.

Again its not that subjective

Everyone likes good presentation

Everyone likes easy to check answers (Structuring )

Everyone likes relevant ,if not best, content.

Everyone likes unique answers.

The thing is relevance+uniqueness+presentation+structure

If u can work on them its a symphony not randomness or Brownian motion.

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CluelessForNow .

@Forumite hmm.. i get your point. May be when marks come out, i will be able to understand what didn’t work. If it was due to difficult optional or due to other subjects. Because for now it’s not possible for me to decide what went wrong. Honestly i still feel i did what had to be done but clearly it was not enough.

@CluelessForNow Marksheet will provide better clarity. May be u did good in some parts while scored below par in others.All permutations are open.

Forumitesaid
@CluelessForNow Please don't make career decisions today. Think anything regarding career after a week's time.

This exam isn't as subjective as people claim.
Whether in pre or mains,when i worked hard with good answer writing and paper management, I cleared them.
When I didn't do these things,I didn't clear.

Most of my friends who cleared it before have again cleared it.
Those of my friends who didn't clear previously,unfortunately they didn't clear yet again.

Its not that subjective as we so often portray.

I will talk very straight and im sorry if it feels blunt

That feeling of giving best and things going well is common.
The reason for that is -
We judge our performance on an absolute scale instead of relative scale.
In my opinion,the day u start thinking that how u have to make ur answers best not just correct, it will do wonders.
U dont just have to beat the question but also ur competitors.
When u r able to scale up ur preparation to that level, try giving exam then and see its objectivity.

If ur love for academics is greater than civil services then kindly go for NET
If u think u can't scale up ur mains prep in a short time then go for NET
But if u r serious about civil services,then u have to prepare mains as if u r aiming for top rank not just IAS.
Again its not that subjective
Everyone likes good presentation
Everyone likes easy to check answers (Structuring )
Everyone likes relevant ,if not best, content.
Everyone likes unique answers.
The thing is relevance+uniqueness+presentation+structure
If u can work on them its a symphony not randomness or Brownian motion.

the reasons apart from the time given in this exam which is not letting me leave it outright is that i have seen improvement along the way, have seen my mock scores and worked upon them, pretty much know now what went wrong and that i know myself. i am very stubborn and i think many oeople are like me.

Avighna,

i also think that the exam is doable now for me. for some reason its not all that difficult as i believed it to be. Now i only need strength to be acceptable to improvements which is mentally taxing rather than being stubborn when its not needed.

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Forumitesaid
@CluelessForNow Please don't make career decisions today. Think anything regarding career after a week's time.

This exam isn't as subjective as people claim.
Whether in pre or mains,when i worked hard with good answer writing and paper management, I cleared them.
When I didn't do these things,I didn't clear.

Most of my friends who cleared it before have again cleared it.
Those of my friends who didn't clear previously,unfortunately they didn't clear yet again.

Its not that subjective as we so often portray.

I will talk very straight and im sorry if it feels blunt

That feeling of giving best and things going well is common.
The reason for that is -
We judge our performance on an absolute scale instead of relative scale.
In my opinion,the day u start thinking that how u have to make ur answers best not just correct, it will do wonders.
U dont just have to beat the question but also ur competitors.
When u r able to scale up ur preparation to that level, try giving exam then and see its objectivity.

If ur love for academics is greater than civil services then kindly go for NET
If u think u can't scale up ur mains prep in a short time then go for NET
But if u r serious about civil services,then u have to prepare mains as if u r aiming for top rank not just IAS.
Again its not that subjective
Everyone likes good presentation
Everyone likes easy to check answers (Structuring )
Everyone likes relevant ,if not best, content.
Everyone likes unique answers.
The thing is relevance+uniqueness+presentation+structure
If u can work on them its a symphony not randomness or Brownian motion.

thanks a lot

agreed with many points especially relevance uniqueness presenstation and structure. these 4 are not upto the mark now. i just thought that completing 20 questions by just fulfilling demand is enough. turns out its not

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alpha2505said
@Capedcrusader1 Definately you can take up a job since you have been preparing for quite sometime so you can manage job and preparation. And at the end of the day it is about if you find meaning in the work you are doing. However, sometimes circumstances are such that you have to prioritise a job that pays over a job that you dont want to do. So, choose accordingly

complete agree with you

this also happens with many

@Capedcrusader1 I'm confident you will work upon all these things.

I too used to think that these extra things,uniqueness,presentation etc are not mandatory and meeting demand is sufficient.

I was proved wrong when I failed in my previous mains.

Another equally important thing is paper management.

Giving equal time to most of the questions is very important.

A decent quality answer × 20 is better than 12 best answers and 8 bad answers .

The three key steps are

1.Knowing nitty gritty of presentation,structure, uniqueness and relevance

2.Practicing a lot so that these things r ingrained in our answers.

3.Good paper management in exam.

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sympa .

@Forumite you are suggesting that there's a method to this madness. Were you able to pull off the 4-spice mantra for all your answers in exam conditions... And could you highlight the uniqueness aspect of it?

Forumitesaid
@Capedcrusader1 I'm confident you will work upon all these things.

I too used to think that these extra things,uniqueness,presentation etc are not mandatory and meeting demand is sufficient.
I was proved wrong when I failed in my previous mains.

Another equally important thing is paper management.
Giving equal time to most of the questions is very important.
A decent quality answer × 20 is better than 12 best answers and 8 bad answers .

paper time management is largely not an issue i remember in all gs papers

and i had included data etc too in answers

thats why as of now, i wont say that a huge change is needed. the reason for my failure is for optional

my copy would have looked really disgusting with so many skull diagram being practised and no sense of seriousnsess. if such a copy would reach my hands, i too would not be very liberal with marks to myself.

time crunch is also the issue in optional and less value addition and current relevance is not there.

gs cant be wronged until marks are out. in my case.

how do you plan on improvising gs writing now? one cant do it now

sympasaid
@Forumite you are suggesting that there's a method to this madness. Were you able to pull off the 4-spice mantra for all your answers in exam conditions... And could you highlight the uniqueness aspect of it?

its not about all the questions. but ek koshish toh karni padegi ki achha theek hai 5/6 answers me dhyan de dia

ab iske lie karna kya hai pta nai

topper copy dekhein, ya value addition search karein jisme diagram ho, ya beforehand tayar rakhe ye sab, ya koi utube channel pe search karein. isme madness hai. kyunki muje lagta h sab 20 questions likh sakte hain meri tarah aur fir bahar payenge khud ko. i think s400, who, aqg wagera dhang se aata rha hoga logo ko, maine isme bhi jabaran number de dia khud ko

Forumite,

@sympa I wished I could incorporate uniqueness in every 20 answers but I could implement it in hardly 10-12 answers.

However, presentation relevance and structure was present in almost all answers.

Uniqueness can be in three areas

1.CONTENT-examples,facts,simple arguments

Eg in Tribal Q GS 1 Q 9

Gond tribals use Tendu leaves instead of plastics for packaging.

2 PRESENTATION-Unique diagrams,neatness,spacing between words and lines etc.

Eg in GS 2 Parliamentary accountability Q.

Increasing use of ordinance reduces Parliamentary accountability.

I used a step graph that during 1950 to 1980 there was 1 ordinance passed for every 10 bill.

It was 2/10 for 1980-2010

3.3/10 for 2010 onwards.

3.Structure

Breaking into subpart

Eg Q 1b GS 4 ways to prevent non ethical means in a CS

One can write

A)External Checks

CAG CVC CBI Courts

B)Internal Guides

Integrity Compassion

Adding New dimensions to the answer.

Eg in question of constructive programme by Gandhiji, after writing 2 pages of specific programs one can write

Why Gandhiji launched these programs.

Impact of these programs.

In Africa India partnership Question

One can give new dimension in last

How India's partnership is different from China

Hand in hand vs debt trap diplomacy.

Can one maintain all these 3 aspects of uniqueness in every answers?

A big NO

However, somewhere one can write unique content, somewhere unique presentation other times unique structure.

Choices are Two

1.Chase this madness,fail in achieving ideal results but end up performing better

2.Blame subjectivity, randomness, luck,UPSC etc.

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@Capedcrusader1 Next cycle is gold.

100+ days between pre and mains.

That would be sufficient for you.

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Forumitesaid
@Capedcrusader1 Next cycle is gold.
100+ days between pre and mains.
That would be sufficient for you.

yes this time we have more time at disposal

i will have to make a choice between doing more mocks vs inventiveness

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@Neyawn Does UPSC ask us to submit certificates and proofs for prizes, scholarships, medals, positions of leadership during interview?

Alpha_Romeo .

@Capedcrusader1 how else can you practice inventiveness if not by doing more mocks?