@doodlebean
Hi mam! Great to see you back.Pub ad junta in forum missed you a lot.
Waise have you appeared for interviews this year?
@doodlebean
Okey.. Please help us out. Was not able to clear past mains hurdle in last 3 attempts..Pub ad being an important drag.Aapse bahut kuch seekhna.
@doodlebean
Will try our best.
@doodlebeanyou motivated me through this mam... Thank you
I always admired you and IWRA sir, but felt demotivated too seeing the quality of your answer. That I will never reach that level.. But i indeed can...
Anyways
My take on the question
ever since it's evolution, disciplinary studies in public administration has responded to the needs of practical administrators. Changing requirements of practical administrative system Brought changes in the approach of theorists.
For example
1930s-prwctical administrators focused more on efficiency and structure, .. Thus discipline responded to it though classical theories.
NPA arouse as a result of ineffectiveness of classical theories in dealing with post world. War 2 issues in USA..
PCT and NPM approach emerged to cater to the administrative systems requirement of more privatisation and market forces in the economy
Similarly networked governance of the current era which emphasises on blurring of lines between government, market and civil society defines the scope of disciplinary studies today, which has to take into consideration role of people, civil society and market as a whole
Thus with increasing complexity of governance, the definition as well as work of administrative system is expanding. Twhich means that the boundary of the discipline is also expanding.
However to say that the discipline is boundaryless will not be appropriate. The disciplines core focus, that is policy making, policy execution by career bureaucrats is still relevant..
The core is not boundaryless but the periphery is indeed expanding.
Poor attempt i feel:(
@doodlebeanokey..
@prowessno one can define the time Bro... Effort matters..
2 months intensive effort can do
@Unicorn
I too will be regular here..
@doodlebeanshould be awarded as the best forumite.. Thank you mam
@doodlebeanyou already deserve that mam:)
@IWRAThank you:)
@ADIhow to add images bhai in quest??
https://ibb.co/Vm3RhpC
https://ibb.co/NK4h8cQ
Here is my answer..
Sorry I was unable to directly add photos
@Bhagat-singhrequest entity too large bol raha
@ADIThe question has two parts...
Rationality and efficiency is intertwined
Weber analysis of bureaucracy..
You have to link rationality with efficiency and vice versa in my opinion..
You just describes the legal rational model of weber without linthe linkages..
How rationality leads to efficiency and how efficiency leads to rationality is the crux of the answer I think..
@doodlebeanplease correct if wrong
@Bhagat-singhvery good answer..
However you crossed the word limit..
1st part could have been more concise..
Learnt a lot. From your answer
I didn't wrote the the 2nd part well...simehow missed goal displacement (my bad)
@Hakunah_Matata
Hey.. You too missed the linkage part.. How bureaucratic rationality leads to efficiency...
Though written well.. The answer is deviating from the demand in my opinion
@doodlebeanmam camera itna achcha nahi... Crop karna se blur ho ja raha..
Aaj wo link se evaluate Kar do...
Kal se cam scanner se upload Kar doonga
@Bhagat-singhyou can.. But your approach in. The answer is better.. That rationality in. Form. Of excessive focus on rule orientation can lead to goal displacement. Thus weber conceptualisation of rationality intertwined with efficiency isn't totally correct because his conceptualisation of rationality didn't include human and social. Factors, Environmental considerations, contingent factors. Further, efficiency concept was also expanded later to strive for effectiveness as well(NPA)
I feel you did a very good job apart from word limit
@doodlebeanmam please review mine too... Link daal hai
@doodlebeanmam directives me confusion hot.... Analyse aur comment me kya difference hai..
If the directive was analyse what difference it would have made to the answer?
@doodlebeanbeautifully explained... Thank you...
But do we have time in exam to draw such crafted diagrams?
@doodlebeantheoretically to maine bhi padha hai ye differences.. But jab likhta hoon.. It becomes difficult to align my answer as per directive... Could you please explain the difference with the given question as example.??
@doodlebeanyou make things so simple mam.. Never thought it was so easy.. Overcoming the inertia is the key..
I will try for myself.. And buckle up my preparation.. Shuruaat me back was sa banega but dheere dheere improve karoonga
@doodlebeannahi mam... Aaj ka answer Dalege thoda der me..
Post prelims mat rahiye.... Abhi samay hai improvement Lane ke lie.. Baad me nahi milega
@ADINew Doc 2019-04-11 21.28.21.pdf
Today's answer
All well and good.. But your conclusion wasn't needed I feel...
Doodlebean mam please correct..
Waise your answer is very precise and to the point.. Somehow I had the points but couldn't arrange them in a coherent manner
@Hakunah_Matata
Good coverage of NPM and Nps, however devoting a full page on NPM is not the right approach, rather more focus be given to NPS...
You gave a very beautiful conclusion...
Except from word limit issues.. Your answer is perfect.. In my opinion
Learnt a lot
@Bhagat-singhanswer aaj ka?
@IWRAsirjee mere answer ko bhi review kar dijie please
Thanks a lot Bhagat jee...together we can conquer.. Please don't call me Sir... Mujse jyada behtar likhte aap
@Yo_Yo_Choti_Singh
We certainly will sir...
Ek awaaz de ke to dekho
@IWRA@doodlebean@Bhagat-singh@Hakunah_Matata
Please review
@Bhagat-singhtabled approach is really good... However I felt a disconnect in your explanations for how it is a synthesis...
How bounded rationality is a synthesis?
How administrative man is a synthesis?
A bit of explanation in that part was needed..
You could have cut short classical school and behavioural scjooll s elaborate explanations
@LalSalaam
Writing isnt legible. Improve on your handwriting bhai.
The 1st diagram is little complex... Couldn't understand what you tried to convey
The 2nd diagram is very good... Examples are cherry on the cake..
Well done for that..
But overall the answer lacks flow and there is drag while reading it..
@Bhagat-singh10 markers don't provide enough time and space to do that Bro...
@LalSalaamdiagram per se is good... But it requires Examiner to re read it to grasp the true meaning...
Diagram should be self explanatory
@Hakunah_Matata
Dekha nahi tha brother...
I too am learning from you guys... Sir mat bolo yr:)
Cons in your answers
1)Excessive elaboration.. Verbosity..
2)bounded rationality extension of classical efficiency?? Seems more related to Behavioural. Constraint to me
3)follett ko kaise link kia?? Specialisation ye dab to classical theorists ne dia tha...
4)try to avoid referring to Simon.. Rather use Simonsbath administrative behaviour.. Question uske book pe tha... Na ko simon pe... So ad behaviour use karna better hai
Pros
Good handwriting
Good language
Zone of acceptance wala point...
Kwar
@IWRAbeautifully explained sir... I knew synthesis ko explain. Karna hai... But wasn't able to express it. Fully...
Learnt a lot.. Thanks
@Bhagat-singh@Hakunah_Matatabhai answers likho.. 2 din pending ho gaya...
Main kal daloonga 2 answers.. 2 a and 2 B... Personal kam ne busy tha kuch
@IWRAThank you sir...
Can I use such conclusion in exams?? Doesn't it looks childish?
@Yo_Yo_Choti_Singhit was a 20 marker sir..
How to learn this art sir?? Any specific exercise?
@Yo_Yo_Choti_Singhplease elaborate what is lacking in presentation?? Please?
@LalSalaam
Paper 1 107
Paper 2 109
Fucked up totally.... Still not able to understand why I got such marks:(
@mahi2501sorry for my language... Pleas edit it.. I am unable to do so
@doodlebeanplease go ahead... Mam...
@Hakunah_Matatagood yr...
Taylor’s increasing the size of the pie is also relevant here as India is facing resource shortage to ensure effective rediateution
Simon satisfying decision...lindbolms Incrementalism should be the approach towards tackling poverty.... It's like curing obesity... One day at a time...
@doodlebean@Hakunah_Matata
Model code of conducts implementation is a classic example of formalism in Prismatic societies...
Please correct
Bhai my score last year was 250...
Scored 213 this year..
What worked for you? You scored really well this year... If you have mock copies for both the attempts, it would be good way to get insights on where you improved..
@nitinbrijwasi24426please upload them if time permits...wpuld be extremely grateful to you..
Or gou can mail me..PM kar dia mail id
@Bhagat-singhaye sir...
@doodlebeanprakat hoiye mam
@Bhagat-singhbhai qn kaha hai?meri mains nahi, phir bhi main utsuk, bahar nikalo sab and likhna shuru karo...
@Bhagat-singh
@Bhagat-singh
@Bhagat-singhbhai please restart that daily answer waiting inititative, though I am not giving mains thisbyear, I would be active , as the initiative benfiyted me last time it started..
Doodlebena man is more than ready to help us out, but for that we also need to help ourselves...
@mahi2501gs4 paper is a way to test the managerial cosmology or belief system wrt humanistic dimensions..
I tried to link GS4 with 2 views of McGregor...which is more appropriate?? Please review..
@Suganyarather first write what di u understand by scope-the extent to which a discipline deals with..
Then write that practicalencironment and action part of pub ad guides the scope of pub ad..
1887-birth of pub ad as a discipline was due to issues of spoils system in action part..scope was narrow at that time because pub ad action was limited..
Similarly give examples...
Then write that since pub ad as ana cticivty is ever expanding, its scope is also ever expanding, whmith some scholars opining that its boundryless...
Give some characteristic of boundryelssness-networked etc..
Then write, though seems boudaryless, pub ad as discipline has a staple core..(study of the action part)
