Mains 2022 - All Papers PDF + R**** Rona + Paper Discussion
Guys, Essay Paper is over. How was it?
@Darvey78 Can you kindly post link or name of telegram groups where we can find interview transcriptsThanks in advance
Here it is-------
https://blog.forumias.com/download-upsc-ias-interview-transcripts-compilation-pdf-for-2022-interviews/
arjunas,
@Capedcrusader1 There's no denying the fact that the paper was tough. I am just saying that finding "content" for writing answer in GS-I needed common sense.Tough questions mai thoda content bhi bohot hai. Thoda relevant content bhi hai and uske 2-3 marks bhi agar mil gaye toh bhi it is better than scoring 0. Exact 10/15 marks score karne waala content toh I don't think koi likh bhi paayega real exam mai. It is better to ensure above average content and addressing the keywords rather than chasing the myth of a "perfect" answer. Plus I don't think that kind of perfection could be achieved.From Forum Mock test feedback, I understood the importance of drawing maps. After analysing PYQs, maps and diagrams ka kaafi scope tha geography mai .. shale gas reserves, sugarcane etc jesi cheeze bohot puchi thhi. Toh exams se pehle maps and diagrams hi sirf karke gaya. I thought that sab kuch nahi toh kuch toh pata ho. "Atleast" map/diagram toh draw karke aau.Plus this feeling of 'lack of content' will always be there, kitna bhi kyu na padd lo.GS-2 & 3 were quite good. Kaafi loaded keywords thhe. Scope to write relevant content was high.
Absolutely disagree with many points because my experience is suggesting otherwise. Definitely disagreeing on forcible map drawing aspect. But anyway, my only point is that I could have prepared in a much better way to answer some questions as gs1 is not at all analytical anymore(don’t know when it was last time).
Either one knows an answer and scores good or applies this highly subjective phrase ‘common sense’ and averages out.
@Capedcrusader1 I don't think so the optional guys had much advantage. The keywords in the questions were quite general which just needed 'better' analysis.
- Socio questions were doable if you have read Indian Society NCERT, did PYQs and followed current affairs 'broadly'.
- The main problem with Geo questions was that they were quite unexpected (easy questions like primary rock (types and characteristics) made me go blank but however time management helped me attempt that question) plus when I read some Geo questions in the first iteration, my mind went like- "What to write now?" (But again, I had not prepared for Geography that well so that feeling won't be the same for everyone. I had completely relied on revising diagrams and maps during prep. So in the end, I broadly addressed the keywords and drew a labelled map in those rubber plantation and wind energy questions (covered 1-1.5 page). For other questions like ocean currents and straits, I drew 2-3 maps and wrote about keywords with some examples).
- For the colour-coded IMD question, if you have seen maps in Disaster Manageme nt - the common colours are red, orange, yellow and green- whose meaning doesn't change much. You can just "broadly" write on that with a map showing cyclone prone areas (I made an educated guess here which turned out to be right, I was analysing PYQs (NDMA Reports were asked) so I thought of going one step ahead and ended up skimming through various maps in NDMA reports. I thought that different govt agencies won't colour code maps differently so I ended up mentioning these 4 colours).
- Deccan traps question is again from understanding of map of India. I was just reading about formation of Gondwana Coal, black soil etc from Wikipedia when I happened to come across this term (it appeared quite frequently). Plus the question was about resource "potential" so there was scope to write stuff.
- Troposphere question - I just loaded the whole answers with diagrams and addressed the keywords in few points.
Therefore, I think the paper would have created a huge advantage for the Geo/socio optional people if some "specific keywords" would have been there which are not known by a normal non-Geo/socio optional person. In this paper, I believe everyone has atleast read enough things to address them with relevant "examples" and "keywords".Note: I am not saying the paper was easy but I think the paper was more about common sense. Even if the socio/Geo optional people had an advantage, it wouldn't more than few marks.going ahead 1 step NDMA and looking at map how did you decipher that ? Seems like you are topper in making with such foresightedness.
I started answer writing (from Insights) and analysing UPSC questions way back in 2017 when I was in my 2nd year of UG. When you read and write things n number of times, you develop a small intuition about various things. So I had a small intuition that the colour-coded maps used in these NDMA Reports "may have been" similar to those of IMD. I ended up "deciphering" the meaning similar to what I had read in the report (I had read 5-6 lines out of curiosity). It would have gone either way and "fortunately enough" it went right.
Also, about the "foresightedness" thing. Seriously, analyse PYQs of GS 1 & 3. I was preparing content for Disaster Management keeping PYQs in mind when I "thought" of skimming through these reports.
@Capedcrusader1 There's no denying the fact that the paper was tough. I am just saying that finding "content" for writing answer in GS-I needed common sense.Tough questions mai thoda content bhi bohot hai. Thoda relevant content bhi hai and uske 2-3 marks bhi agar mil gaye toh bhi it is better than scoring 0. Exact 10/15 marks score karne waala content toh I don't think koi likh bhi paayega real exam mai. It is better to ensure above average content and addressing the keywords rather than chasing the myth of a "perfect" answer. Plus I don't think that kind of perfection could be achieved.From Forum Mock test feedback, I understood the importance of drawing maps. After analysing PYQs, maps and diagrams ka kaafi scope tha geography mai .. shale gas reserves, sugarcane etc jesi cheeze bohot puchi thhi. Toh exams se pehle maps and diagrams hi sirf karke gaya. I thought that sab kuch nahi toh kuch toh pata ho. "Atleast" map/diagram toh draw karke aau.Plus this feeling of 'lack of content' will always be there, kitna bhi kyu na padd lo.GS-2 & 3 were quite good. Kaafi loaded keywords thhe. Scope to write relevant content was high.Absolutely disagree with many points because my experience is suggesting otherwise. Definitely disagreeing on forcible map drawing aspect. But anyway, my only point is that I could have prepared in a much better way to answer some questions as gs1 is not at all analytical anymore(don’t know when it was last time).
Either one knows an answer and scores good or applies this highly subjective phrase ‘common sense’ and averages out.
That's a very objective approach (knowing/not knowing). I don't disagree with you completely about this approach because in questionslikethat "Cyberdome Project" asked in 2019 GS 3 Mains you needed to know about it so as to write relevant content "for the 1st part". But then you could have written some generic points (from common sense) for the 2nd part of the Cyberdome Project question which would have fetched you 1-2 marks atleast. It is still better than leaving the question completely.
Clearly, my objective here is to score marks "wherever" possible whereas you are saying that you won't write content (drawing maps forcibly) unless it sounds "completely" relevant to you.
I don't think knowing everything (hence, content) is possible because UPSC would always ask such questions (then the question becomes how much should we study?). So in my view, it is better to write whatever you know and try to link it with the keywords in the question.
You might still disagree with me but at the end of the day, even scoring 1 or 2 extra marks in a single question would decide whether you are in the list or out of the list. Be it any paper and of any difficulty level.
Anyone here who couldn't complete ethics paper ?
I never leave questions blank ,so tried to write atleast some basic terms
I was able to write some basic terms for around 30-40 marks (20 in a case + 2*10m ) but not sure if it yields anything more than 20% of marks of the Qn
Hindsight : I should have optimally utilised time for GS4, never faced this much of time crunch in ethics mocks
the slight risk with trying to get 1-2 marks is that examiner might think he/she is bluffing and would reduce marks in other questions as well.... said Ira Singhal
I did not say 'bluff', I am just talking about an educated guess. Drawing a map depicting areas of cotton cultivation and things like that do not count as a bluff. You are 'atleast' partially addressing the question. Also, there's a possibility that you would "mistakenly" quote a wrong fact. Deducting marks from that particular answer seems logical. But deducting marks from a different answer for committing a mistake in another answer seems illogical.
Tina1997,Street_lamp
case studies 1st...wrote very nicely (imo)...but fused subparts like option and merits and demerits below the options only...wrote 3 options in every cs....lot of time consumed...so left 3.5 10 markers...so i am pretty much out of the race people say..so ready for next attempt
Street_lamp,case studies 1st...wrote very nicely (imo)...but fused subparts like option and merits and demerits below the options only...wrote 3 options in every cs....lot of time consumed...so left 3.5 10 markers...so i am pretty much out of the race people say..so ready for next attempt
Even I followed the same thing and then faced a huge time crunch later.
So what was the difficulty level of GS-4 according to you?
- case studies will be solved firstly because 10 markers are too complicated and decoding 10 markers will definetly take more than 7 minutes.
-1hour 40 minutes for case studies. i overhauled my writing and presentation part this year wrt last year.
-options available are 4 in my case. ias360 pdf that i saw also has minimum 3 options available. PS: while exploring more options one ma find qualitatively eroded content because of time issue.
-IBC format in all cs and 10 markers
now coming to 10 markers: 1hour 20 minutes.
to be brutally honest, it was such a rush that i have never faced in any mocks. not because im slow in writing but because the shock value of 10 markers was at its peak. decoding the demand of the 10 markers was not easy atleast in first go. in mocks, i usually crack the demand in one go, infact i begin to write while i am reading the question. this had a domino effect on the last 10 markers. since i dont remember an iota of what i have written, i cant say quality is heavily compromised but i dont think by leaving questions,you would gain an upper hand in quality. thats simply not how gs4 is designed(my opinion). these are all my experiences. last year i couldnt complete whole paper as well.
Mahi2306,
Street_lamp,
@Capedcrusader1 I don't think so the optional guys had much advantage. The keywords in the questions were quite general which just needed 'better' analysis.
- Socio questions were doable if you have read Indian Society NCERT, did PYQs and followed current affairs 'broadly'.
- The main problem with Geo questions was that they were quite unexpected (easy questions like primary rock (types and characteristics) made me go blank but however time management helped me attempt that question) plus when I read some Geo questions in the first iteration, my mind went like- "What to write now?" (But again, I had not prepared for Geography that well so that feeling won't be the same for everyone. I had completely relied on revising diagrams and maps during prep. So in the end, I broadly addressed the keywords and drew a labelled map in those rubber plantation and wind energy questions (covered 1-1.5 page). For other questions like ocean currents and straits, I drew 2-3 maps and wrote about keywords with some examples).
- For the colour-coded IMD question, if you have seen maps in Disaster Manageme nt - the common colours are red, orange, yellow and green- whose meaning doesn't change much. You can just "broadly" write on that with a map showing cyclone prone areas (I made an educated guess here which turned out to be right, I was analysing PYQs (NDMA Reports were asked) so I thought of going one step ahead and ended up skimming through various maps in NDMA reports. I thought that different govt agencies won't colour code maps differently so I ended up mentioning these 4 colours).
- Deccan traps question is again from understanding of map of India. I was just reading about formation of Gondwana Coal, black soil etc from Wikipedia when I happened to come across this term (it appeared quite frequently). Plus the question was about resource "potential" so there was scope to write stuff.
- Troposphere question - I just loaded the whole answers with diagrams and addressed the keywords in few points.
Therefore, I think the paper would have created a huge advantage for the Geo/socio optional people if some "specific keywords" would have been there which are not known by a normal non-Geo/socio optional person. In this paper, I believe everyone has atleast read enough things to address them with relevant "examples" and "keywords".Note: I am not saying the paper was easy but I think the paper was more about common sense. Even if the socio/Geo optional people had an advantage, it wouldn't more than few marks.going ahead 1 step NDMA and looking at map how did you decipher that ? Seems like you are topper in making with such foresightedness.
I started answer writing (from Insights) and analysing UPSC questions way back in 2017 when I was in my 2nd year of UG. When you read and write things n number of times, you develop a small intuition about various things. So I had a small intuition that the colour-coded maps used in these NDMA Reports "may have been" similar to those of IMD. I ended up "deciphering" the meaning similar to what I had read in the report (I had read 5-6 lines out of curiosity). It would have gone either way and "fortunately enough" it went right.
Also, about the "foresightedness" thing. Seriously, analyse PYQs of GS 1 & 3. I was preparing content for Disaster Management keeping PYQs in mind when I "thought" of skimming through these reports.
Okay bhai
Aap toh topper ho hi fir. Color coded map bhi yaad hai that too of cyclone so isse jyada toh kisi topper ko kya hi pta hoga. 2017 se answer writing kar hi rhe ho aap aur content bhi excellent hai aur aapne guess work bhi on point jaa rha that too in mains.
PYQ for mains dont hold much significance . Syllabus is more relevant imo. Pyq are from syllabus only. :) If you have themes covered from ncert and books etc it is sufficient. Color coding ncert me hi hai . 2017 se intutuon ki itno zarurat nhi
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