Civil Services Mains 2020 Results: In or Out ? Way ahead, gratitude and Pain
The Civils Mains result has been declared. This thread is for sharing your grief , joy , mixed feelings - absolutely anything and everything.
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Villanelle,whatonly
Some points I noted down that kept coming up in different topics. The plan was to use them wherever I needed a point or two more as a last resort.
1. Encourage people’s engagement - CBOs, SHGs, PRI
2. Strengthen legislative and regulatory framework
3. Use technology: AI, ML
4. For legislation, refer to Law Commission
5. UDHR, SDG, DPSP
6. Portal has been launched (true for most things)
7. Urban-rural angle
8. Any tech ->digital divide
9. Any tech ->privacy, security, data sovereignty
10. Build skills
11. Grievance redressal mechanisms
12. Challenge - Lack of research
13. Projects ->Land acquisition problems
14. Economy ->investor confidence will be affected
15. Develop standard operating procedures
16. Agriculture, infra ->land records digitisation
17. Social issues ->collect detailed data
18. Local language for communications
19. Reduce GST for sector
20. Challenge - weak regulation
21. Problem with program: cost overruns
I started doing this only towards the end, so the list can be much longer!
The way you have grown in confidence in the past year while being selfless and helpful, I just have to say one thing :
"Officer bano jaldi...Mein shaayad agle saal banun ya na banun ...irrespective , aage jaake mujhe bhi sandeep bhaiya ki tarah aap ko "Ma'am" bulaane mein bohot proud feel hoga !
Keep going and serving :)
@Villanelle Your plan B?😃
for mains notes what are the sources, we needed to refer to for static as well as dynamic part??? for dynamic - i have heard mains365, forum CA handouts, MK Yadav qep,etc what to do can anyone explain ??@whatonly @SergioRamos @AzadHindFauz any other
I always feel that the best guide for sources is PYQ. Solve mains PYQ for the last 5 years.
Pro tip:For help, google the keywords of the question and add NCERT with them. You will see the top 2-3 google search results with the pdf of the relevant NCERT's page.
For example, answering regionalism related questions, just google "Regionalism NCERT" and all the relevant NCERT pages with regionalism word will come up as links. This way you can have GS notes straight outta NCERT itself.
Try this, and you will be amazed just how much our syllabus is covered by NCERT's. For remaining, Vision VAM is a good source along with Mains 365.
Villanelle,whatonlySome points I noted down that kept coming up in different topics. The plan was to use them wherever I needed a point or two more as a last resort.
1. Encourage people’s engagement - CBOs, SHGs, PRI
2. Strengthen legislative and regulatory framework
3. Use technology: AI, ML
4. For legislation, refer to Law Commission
5. UDHR, SDG, DPSP
6. Portal has been launched (true for most things)
7. Urban-rural angle
8. Any tech ->digital divide
9. Any tech ->privacy, security, data sovereignty
10. Build skills
11. Grievance redressal mechanisms
12. Challenge - Lack of research
13. Projects ->Land acquisition problems
14. Economy ->investor confidence will be affected
15. Develop standard operating procedures
16. Agriculture, infra ->land records digitisation
17. Social issues ->collect detailed data
18. Local language for communications
19. Reduce GST for sector
20. Challenge - weak regulation
21. Problem with program: cost overruns
I started doing this only towards the end, so the list can be much longer!
Seeing the way you study and the sources you mention,I wonder how I even managed to clear pre let alone mains.
I have been anti thesis of what neywan here on any coaching or an odeal aspirant would suggest.
0 tests,0 answers written(a.k.a no answer writing.Just got guidance from mother),0 pre tests,left ancient and medievel history,left world history,left post independence.Did only ncerts for geography(Heard pmfias for the 1st time today).Don't know what is vision vam.0 diagram,0 hub and spoke.
Have'nt seen any mrunal lecture
Have'nt seen The Hindu since end of 2019.
2 test written for optional,nothing else.0 essays written.
Have'nt seen any coaching material for optional.
I wonder Should I leave interview prep and start prep from scratch again .
Strange things happen.
Dekho kya hota hai.
I have a similar problem.. I read basic books only and supplemented gs papers with insights current affairs monthly
no tests attempted in pre or mains because there wasnt enough time
no essays attempted
did prepare optional well enough though and maybe that helped. I also concentrated on attempting all questions in gs papers this time so maybe that helped..
not giving up on interview though, if nothing works and i fail, i would be very well prepapred for interview in the next attempt so i would say do your best... u never know.
in my last attempt i had 340 in gs papers, excluding essay, and i had left nearly 200 marks worth of questions so my point is you never know.. u might actually have a good score
SergioRamos,Some points I noted down that kept coming up in different topics. The plan was to use them wherever I needed a point or two more as a last resort.
1. Encourage people’s engagement - CBOs, SHGs, PRI
2. Strengthen legislative and regulatory framework
3. Use technology: AI, ML
4. For legislation, refer to Law Commission
5. UDHR, SDG, DPSP
6. Portal has been launched (true for most things)
7. Urban-rural angle
8. Any tech ->digital divide
9. Any tech ->privacy, security, data sovereignty
10. Build skills
11. Grievance redressal mechanisms
12. Challenge - Lack of research
13. Projects ->Land acquisition problems
14. Economy ->investor confidence will be affected
15. Develop standard operating procedures
16. Agriculture, infra ->land records digitisation
17. Social issues ->collect detailed data
18. Local language for communications
19. Reduce GST for sector
20. Challenge - weak regulation
21. Problem with program: cost overruns
I started doing this only towards the end, so the list can be much longer!
The idea behind such a list is great. Thank you. Taking a cue from this, I shall prepare a list too this time! :)
JoRa,whatonly.
whatonly,
The things that push your name in or out of the pdf are "Essay, Ethics and Optional". Without any doubt. Go through the marksheets, plot all the graphs that you want to. Do all the data analysis you can and you will arrive at this same conclusion.
"Essay, Ethics and Optional" determines your selection.
" GS 1,2 and 3" determines only your rank.
Pehle selection to pakka karlo, if you have the any attempts left. Work like a crazy person to ace "Essay, Ethics and Optional". And then, rank toh improve kar hi sakte ho. It's a mad game, make your moves wisely. Do not try to pluck all fruits at once, pluck the low hanging ones, eat them, enjoy them and then think about reaching at the top to pluck those fruits.
But it's the opposite that happens with the aspirants. They go crazy over GS 1,2 and 3. Attend all the lectures, mug up multiple notes, handouts and compilations. Saara time isi mei nikal jaata hai. And then, you do optional in a hurry. Essay and Ethics are like traffic lights in GTA, nobody cares about them. Give them adequate attention, lagao yaar bees bees din in Essay and Ethics pe and see the output.
It's all about clarity and strategy. Jab tak GS 1,2 and 3 aur current affairs ke piche bhagoge for Mains, you will always be disappointed.
I'll tell you another honest thing, if you have done your prelims preparation well and read any Mains CA compilation once for GS 1,2,3. You will score above 80 on any day. You just need to keep focusing on the basics, the foundational concepts and presenting them well in the answers with a logical flow. They will bring your scores to near 100. Bas itna hi karna hai. Don't spend months on writing all those GS answers everyday when you can spend the same time to ace your "Essay, Ethics and Optional" papers.
And also, Optional papers are not cakewalk. The syllabus is as vast as what studies in 3 to 4 years of graduation, if not more. You really think you can ace it by not giving it the respect and attention it deserves? Think again. Sit, think deeply and you'll understand what i am trying to say.
Essays likho yaar, write at least 3 times in a week. Essay ke standard techniques hote hai, practice them, and improvise it with your own style. Practice so much that you should be able to write an essay on any damn topic. If you can just do this, you have your 150-160 scores in the marksheet.
Ethics ka kya hi bataye. The whole hype is around the case studies but the real bonus / heavy marks lie in the theory section. You don't spend enough time in understanding the core concepts of ethics, reading all the required resources and more to gain an edge over everyone and then get disappointed with low scores in ethics. Case studies jitna bhi accha likhlo, your marks won't jump over a limit. If you write really good answers in part A, you will see the scores making a significant jump. Seedha 140s mei aayega.
I know this was unsolicited, but then I felt like sharing it.
- Just another Sandeep Bhaiya.
@whatonly @SergioRamos @Villanelle @DeekshitaP How did you guys utilize the last postponed time ?
(Read Neyawn's article) Thinking of joining gs test series, what you guys prefer?
thepolicydreamer,Some points I noted down that kept coming up in different topics. The plan was to use them wherever I needed a point or two more as a last resort.
1. Encourage people’s engagement - CBOs, SHGs, PRI
2. Strengthen legislative and regulatory framework
3. Use technology: AI, ML
4. For legislation, refer to Law Commission
5. UDHR, SDG, DPSP
6. Portal has been launched (true for most things)
7. Urban-rural angle
8. Any tech ->digital divide
9. Any tech ->privacy, security, data sovereignty
10. Build skills
11. Grievance redressal mechanisms
12. Challenge - Lack of research
13. Projects ->Land acquisition problems
14. Economy ->investor confidence will be affected
15. Develop standard operating procedures
16. Agriculture, infra ->land records digitisation
17. Social issues ->collect detailed data
18. Local language for communications
19. Reduce GST for sector
20. Challenge - weak regulation
21. Problem with program: cost overruns
I started doing this only towards the end, so the list can be much longer!
The way you have grown in confidence in the past year while being selfless and helpful, I just have to say one thing :
"Officer bano jaldi...Mein shaayad agle saal banun ya na banun ...irrespective , aage jaake mujhe bhi sandeep bhaiya ki tarah aap ko "Ma'am" bulaane mein bohot proud feel hoga !
Keep going and serving :)
In huge part that is due to the helpful and selfless people here on forum, especially you :)
Thank you so much my friend, that is very kind and heartening of you to say... officer toh hum dono banenge, aur mujhhe bhi aapko Sherkhan sir kehne mein bohot achchha lagega :D
@whatonly @SergioRamos @Villanelle @DeekshitaP How did you guys utilize the last postponed time ?
(Read Neyawn's article) Thinking of joining gs test series, what you guys prefer?
I did optional, along with some time for prelims just to keep the prelims momentum up, until two months were left for prelims. In retrospect it would have been better if I'd done GS4 in this time as well and some answer writing at least. I think test series is not necessary yet though, unless you would need it to keep up a routine.
GS 1, 2 and 3. They hardly make a difference if you've done the basics diligently. They can pull your ranks up and down, but they do not have the capability on their own to push you out of the pdf, "if you have done your basics right".
The things that push your name in or out of the pdf are "Essay, Ethics and Optional". Without any doubt. Go through the marksheets, plot all the graphs that you want to. Do all the data analysis you can and you will arrive at this same conclusion.
"Essay, Ethics and Optional" determines your selection.
" GS 1,2 and 3" determines only your rank.
Pehle selection to pakka karlo, if you have the any attempts left. Work like a crazy person to ace "Essay, Ethics and Optional". And then, rank toh improve kar hi sakte ho. It's a mad game, make your moves wisely. Do not try to pluck all fruits at once, pluck the low hanging ones, eat them, enjoy them and then think about reaching at the top to pluck those fruits.
But it's the opposite that happens with the aspirants. They go crazy over GS 1,2 and 3. Attend all the lectures, mug up multiple notes, handouts and compilations. Saara time isi mei nikal jaata hai. And then, you do optional in a hurry. Essay and Ethics are like traffic lights in GTA, nobody cares about them. Give them adequate attention, lagao yaar bees bees din in Essay and Ethics pe and see the output.
It's all about clarity and strategy. Jab tak GS 1,2 and 3 aur current affairs ke piche bhagoge for Mains, you will always be disappointed.
I'll tell you another honest thing, if you have done your prelims preparation well and read any Mains CA compilation once for GS 1,2,3. You will score above 80 on any day. You just need to keep focusing on the basics, the foundational concepts and presenting them well in the answers with a logical flow. They will bring your scores to near 100. Bas itna hi karna hai. Don't spend months on writing all those GS answers everyday when you can spend the same time to ace your "Essay, Ethics and Optional" papers.
And also, Optional papers are not cakewalk. The syllabus is as vast as what studies in 3 to 4 years of graduation, if not more. You really think you can ace it by not giving it the respect and attention it deserves? Think again. Sit, think deeply and you'll understand what i am trying to say.
Essays likho yaar, write at least 3 times in a week. Essay ke standard techniques hote hai, practice them, and improvise it with your own style. Practice so much that you should be able to write an essay on any damn topic. If you can just do this, you have your 150-160 scores in the marksheet.
Ethics ka kya hi bataye. The whole hype is around the case studies but the real bonus / heavy marks lie in the theory section. You don't spend enough time in understanding the core concepts of ethics, reading all the required resources and more to gain an edge over everyone and then get disappointed with low scores in ethics. Case studies jitna bhi accha likhlo, your marks won't jump over a limit. If you write really good answers in part A, you will see the scores making a significant jump. Seedha 140s mei aayega.
I know this was unsolicited, but then I felt like sharing it.
- Just another Sandeep Bhaiya.
Cannot agree more. What a wonderful piece of advice. I experienced it in my last mains too. Without optional kuch hona hi nahi hai. There will be few oddballs who can do with Low Optional Scores(Mukund Kr, Vishakha) but without your optional hitting 270+, mushkil ho jaegi!
@whatonly @SergioRamos @Villanelle @DeekshitaP How did you guys utilize the last postponed time ?
(Read Neyawn's article) Thinking of joining gs test series, what you guys prefer?
Ache se use kiya hota to interview dete! :3
Somehow I messed up May June July last time. So I cannot help you here man!
This time though will do optional proper 2 months. No excuses.
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