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[ Official ] How was the Prelims 2021 paper?

Koi right to privacy ko bhi debatable bana do..
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Can anyone throw light on

1. Women reservation 1935 question

2. Arcot and mysore question.

Marked-d and a in them respectively.

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You knew this fact in exam hall 😅?


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Jinke 90+ hai with atleast 2 good keys and csat acha gaya hai. Wo apna Time na waste kare!! Mains is 78 days from today onwards.. 

Har saal 10-12 questions doubtful hote hai. Aur aage bhi hoge.. its better prepare for mains warna phass jaoge. And going by this year's prelim, i don't think anyone would want to give another prelim next year.  

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Besides yaha jitne so called debateable questions hai. Agar wo nikal diye to cutoff 60 ka bhi nahi jayega, we all know that us not possible. Just hope aapke tukke sahi ho jaye. Baki yaha research paper daalkar dil behlane se koi fayda nahi.

2018 pre Mein logon ne lake Baikal bhi sukha diya tha. Kafi research paper bhi post kiye gaye they yaha  but upsc has its own way. And this time subjectivity is high, so we can't just be sure what is correct or what isn't.

Hum sab ne tukke hi maare hai, chahe wo first attempter ho ya selected candidate ya 3-4 interview wale. Everyone were equally vulnerable in the exam hall. Sabne tukke lagaye hai, bas hope karo usme se hi jaye selection apka pre mein. Baki don't post aby research paper and all it's na insult to your own hardwork. As if you guys knew aise sawal aane wale they, jab exam mein apne guess kiya to ab answers justify karne ka koi logic sahi nahi hai 

Sorry if anyone felt bad about my rant. I am saying all of these because bahot log is thread pe time waste kar rahe hai. And in logon ke pre nikalne bhi wale hai. Baadme regret mat karna ki forum pe time waste kar diya. 


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Very very subjective it has become now. Few questions were framed very poorly too.


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@assistant I agree that prelim and interview is very subjective and sort of unpredictable.
But mains can be prepared well. As far as I have experienced, marks in mains are proportional to how one manages time and syllabus in a systematic manner. The one's who have managed to do that have cleared mains: 8/10 candidates if not everyone.

So we can't say that the process is totally random. There's element of luck and fortune in every field. The only difference here is that element is prevalent at the first stage itself. So many serious candidates don't make it.

As far as this prelim goes, i was preparing with 3 very good friends of mine. One already selected, rest 2 have appeared for 2 CSE interviews. They all are very deserving candidates. The selected fellow is in lower 80s same guy scored 114 in 2018. Rest scoring in 85-96 range. I am myself in 92-97 range..

Now how should anyone justify this..


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Ab jinke independent feature of federalism wala sawal galat hua hai wo research paper na padhkar laxmikant sahi se padhe. Next time kaam aayega 

Aur jo bande yaha aaj dd basu ka screenshot post kar rahe hai, wahi bande YouTube pe how to clear prelim in 1 month wale video bhi dekhte hai.. just saying because ye so called debateable ke naam se har koi question ki khaal udhedne mein koi maza nahi hai..

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@kohliwag you think they seriously consider window for disputed question?? Its just an eyewash..


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@PeLhidunga mithapana😅. Lol


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@Shubz godi media se yaad aaya, there's a youtuber named garima, she impersonates the masala TV reporters so well and her skit is full of political sattire. For a change one can watch that, if bored by proving respective debatable questions right here😀..


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@GOT8 2 to sahi hi hai pressure cooker and magnetite. Shayad arcot bhi.. 


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Any idea about results?
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Mera bhi 6th attempt

Scoring- 94 to 99 from vision and forum calculator. CSAT is sorted. Darr hai mujhe bhi. Obc category.

Somewhere I feel i might make it. But nothing can be said certainly. Many of my friends in the same range only. Bahot zyada convergence hai 90-100 mein. 


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Can't prepare dedicatedly for mains either. 2 days se kuch nahi hua hai. Hoping results to be announced soon
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Toppers key are prepared by so called toppers who themselves were aspirants like us. Least credible amongst all the answer keys IMO


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@srivalliguru940 quality of shankar key has progressively become worse since 2018. Even their cutoff prediction is not upto the mark as it used to till 2017


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@toooldtodieyoung cutoff in 80s is not probable. It can be like last year only 91-94 for general i feel.
Ews cutoff will be a big surprise this time I feel


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@srivalliguru940 its UPSC key which matters now. Every key has atleast 10 percent error, this time around its more than that actually.. 


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@monisha27 91-94 general.
88-91 obc.
Ews can see 80+ this time, many applied in ews this time so cutoff can shoot


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@toooldtodieyoung it's the UPSC key which matters. Every year its matter of 6-7 questions which turns the tide. anyone with 70s can go to 90s provided 6-7 answers goes in their favour.. which questions will turn no one knows. So practically no one is safe unless one has scored 110+. Which is very rare. 


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@toooldtodieyoung besides seats are less too. Less than 10k people will write mains.


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@toooldtodieyoung also the so called debateable questions, people have marked either of two options, so either way one category of people would gain the other would lose. This year close to 7 questions have 2 close answers. Eg chenab and satluj. Its a gamble now.. 
I hope cutoff goes below 90, but very unlikely.


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@toooldtodieyoung  sounds reasonable. Let's see how it goes. I would also want it to go low, but don't know i just feel it won't go below 90. Tukkebazo ki sankhya badh gayi hai. 


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@oopsie lol, i am not scaring anyone. 94 according to vision. But will it be the same with UPSC key? No-one is sure this time.. 


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@rawhull frankly speaking i don't trust any coaching now, be it test series or answer key or mock interview. Everything coaching suggests is doubtful now. 
You see for yourself once results are announced, there will be many shockers last time I got a message from a student saying sir galti se pre nikal gaya ab samajh nahi rha kya karu. That guy was scoring 85ish from shankar. Marks turned out to be 96.xx..
You never know. Have written 6 prelim, cleared 3 times, hopeful this time too. But every time new new scenario emerge.. 
That's the level of uncertainty. There are 7-8 questions whose answer is known to only one person ie whoever has framed that question. So how can anyone be sure. 
Can anyone surely tell ita chenab or satluj?? No one can except the paper setter..
2018 there was a question on gst exempted list, there was a debate between 1 only and 1, 2 and 4... 
My mentor who is in IRS customs was 100 percent sure that answer is 1 only. UPSC gave it 1,2 and 4. 
Similarly, in 2017 ,right to vote question, people asked S Y Qureshi sir answer for this question on twitter, i remember some one posted a screenshot where he claimed the answer to be 'legal right 100 percent'. UPSC gave it as constitutional right. Imagine India's CEC and UPSC themselves were divided over what was to be right to vote in India. Just think if 2 constitutional bodies can't decide one factual question how can coaching and people here posting dumb research paper prove it otherwise. 
And the matter of fact is everyone knows this, but no one accepts this.

Disclaimer: my views of coaching are strictly based on my experience of different test series and mock interviews i gave. Besides i myself was working in coaching industry, just recently left the job, as they make fool out of innocent people.. also i felt the way paper is designed there's very little coaching could offer. 


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@balwintejas yes i too feel ews cut off to be 3-4 marks less than OBC. Its just a speculation..


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@WayneRooney last time I applied for forest too. So results awaiting. However i was getting 114- 122. I didn't make it through csat last time. 
And i am no sir 🙂


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@WayneRooney I have been saying since last year that best test series is upsc pyqs. Even this time around 3-4 questions were asked. Have seen people who did 30-40 mocks but still get constitutional government question incorrect this time.. 


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Sometimes i feel ashamed of so called toppers too. No one admits that there's level of uncertainty involved. Everyone is equally vulnerable in prelim, mains, and interview, even after that service allocation, cadre allocation and other such stuffs. I feel the one's who clear in first attempt should actually refrain from advising fellow aspirants, as their level of knowledge and experience is not that to advise someone. And even aspirants should refrain from making such people demigods as if they have conquered the World. if there's some advise you need to take, take it from someone who has appeared in this exam sincerely for more than 3 attempts.

And please don't go to the so called famous teachers. This lockdown many famous teachers have become youtubers and post reels about life and general philosophy. All the young and new aspirants, don't fall into such traps. 

When I look back at my life, i feel i should have been selected back in 2018 itself.. but one bad mains and i went hysterical and did all sorts of test series, met many people, but never did i actually spoke to myself, never thought where i myself went wrong. I was just following what my evaluators had to say. So its important to listen to one ownself. Only we know whether we are preparing properly or not, whether we are confident of clearing prelim or not. Whether we can clear and get a rank. So before listening to anyone always listen to yourself and don't be clueless for more than one week, it kills your intellectual gains you acquired through preparation.

Sorry for the long post..

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@Shubz this time it won't, no-one is unlucky third time. 😊


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@saurabher43267  i was having teatime conversation with my father last month. He told me a
 very beautiful thing which I am proud of, he said, you have become a better and much informed individual for your age, while my colleagues children of your age are busy in their jobs and earning well but all they have become is a pay package. They are reduced to individuals with a tag of say 10, 15 lacs package and nothing more than that.
I am proud of you that you are different, even though you don't earn now, but that's still fine, because eventually you will. I have never seen any educated and well formed 30 year old man not earning..

So even if I don't clear it, i think i have received my samadhan.. 


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@saurabher43267 I had similar thinking till last year. But a lot has changed since last year, now i have come to terms with the fact that something's needs unexplained and unexpected fortune too, its a very important part of process, and unfortunately it's not in your hands. So its better not to take it very seriously, rather there's a need to focus on other social things


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@javelinthrow absolutely..


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Kya aaj hai wo din ?
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@Aurang_mirasudar my father himself couldn't clear CSE. So he understands how we feel.. i am lucky that ways atleast.


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@Aurang_mirasudar yeah mother sometimes difficult to deal with..


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@Aurang_mirasudar someone was telling 25-26th on telegram..


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@Pam123 are chod do bhai, ab kya hi discuss karoge, kya hi milega?? Ab aane hi wala hai max kal tak shayad..


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@valleystar so called insiders ka guess hai.. 


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@Vikileaks sabhi ka yahi haal hai


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@GOT8 92 you can clear, very very high chances but with UPSC keys.
So don't think much now. Abhi relax karo.. 


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@hihihihihi so true... Mein bhi, abhi tak 1 hi baja hai.. 😅


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@srivalliguru940 right to vote was confirmed as legal right by SY qureshi in 2017 prelim.


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Telegram group hai koi? Padha nahi jaa raha ab
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@chikuiasbano right to city, magnetite, federalism, smelting. Ye saare sahi hi hai, koi kuch bhi bole. 
2.66*4 add karlo


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@CSLWARRIOR maine mark hi nahi kiya ye question


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Bada mazedaar result hoga isbaar. No-one is sure. Sabke patte khulenge ek hi saath
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2016 ka prelim yaad aaraha hai, kitna sukun wala paper tha wo. Na koi debate na koi doubt. Jinka us saal selection hua wo lucky hai
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@GOT8 lol, i marked option a in first 5 questions, set D


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@GOT8 Dipolar is the only correct among the five😅


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Results tomorrow? Anyone?
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@Negan waah aapne to algorithm crack kar liya results laane ka..


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@Philip_Marlowe there's a youtube video too of 59 minutes i guess. That's more like a summary straight from harari.. 


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@hemant23_iitd8676 Same here. One needs a prerequisite level of knowledge base to understand him.. 


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