To the question of mitochondrial diseases, kindly consider that Q is not talking abut mitochondrial dna but mito disease and mito. diseases can also be caused by nuclear dna which is transmitted by father too. just have a look at this govt. website
Primary Mitochondrial Disorders Overview - GeneReviews® - NCBI Bookshelf (nih.gov) i am surprised no one except vajiram read the question carefully (sorry for giving fresh nightmares to few of my fellow aspirants, but truth must not be hidden lol)
To the question of mitochondrial diseases, kindly consider that Q is not talking abut mitochondrial dna but mito disease and mito. diseases can also be caused by nuclear dna which is transmitted by father too. just have a look at this govt. website
Primary Mitochondrial Disorders Overview - GeneReviews® - NCBI Bookshelf (nih.gov) i am surprised no one except vajiram read the question carefully (sorry for giving fresh nightmares to few of my fellow aspirants, but truth must not be hidden lol)
Kya answer diya hai bhaji ram ne?
(A)
Devi lal question is completely wrong..means all the given options are wrong.This question has to be removed .
how its wrong?
@Shubz Hmm.. They ignore this representation I guess. When we started preparation in 2016 there was no drama of representation by upsc. They just come up with results even without releasing question paper. Since 2018 they are having some representation for name sake due Court order
I think they need another court order to release answer key of previous year prelims exam before taking current year prelims exam 😅😅everyone is getting like atleast 10-15 marks less than coaching key marks, probably some real twists exist in upsc answer keys 😅😅
Persistent anxiety regarding the prelims outcome drove me here again and again.. Guys please help..
This is not for show off... This is all truth from my side...
Scoring around ~ 86 (Gen) after considering all the below disputed Qs (as per my view)as wrong
1. Pressure cooker (I marked 1&3)
2. Hereditary (Marked C)
3. Indus (marked - Satluj)
4. All Casual (Marked 2&3)
5. Magnetite (Marked D)
6. Copper smelting (Marked D)
7. Arcot (Marked 2 only)
8. State (Marked B)
9. British Model (Marked A)
10. As per legislation (Marked Art 32)
11. Federalism (Marked B)
How many can be correct ? Please help (No debate from my side)
Thanks in advance...
In my opinion and research 8/11 are perfectly erroneous. magnetite one is correct. arcot and pressure cooker cant say
lol 4 is impossible, at maximum 3 can be correct
@rawhull that’s also good if it only adds to this score. Addition of 8 will sail him through
I'm more worried about how you said 4 that guy already seems comfor to clear though
@rawhull are you sure bro????? sabne hi research kiya hai i guess..ap bhi sahi ho sakte ho ki max 3 hi sahi honge....to koi dusra bhi apna research karke hi 4 bol raha hai..so i think koi bhi sahoi ho sakta hai
i agree with you bro but I'm very confident about 8/11 I can answer with explaination you want any answer of them
@rawhull I respect your opinion! Now we all must let UPSC be the umpire✌️
yes bro upsc is real boss 😅
@rawhull true 2 will be correct not more than that
oh so out of arcot and pressure cooker one is wrong then? which one?
@javelinthrow ofcourse not. If im hell bent to prove the answers wrong, i have whole internet at my disposal. atleast 10-11 more will come out to be disputed.
yes i guess these were questions doubtful to one single person, element of subjectivity may exist in few more of the remaining 89 questions
@rawhull actually the questions he mentioned are everyone's doubtful ones.They are the cutoff determining questions.
there's not a single doubtful question except Arcot and pressure cooker, rest are all clear
even as per his answer also i am getting 90, i think chahe kuch bhi answer key mein, net result same rehtaa haai@sunnyleony ye admi light wale question me history me ghus gaya. bhaang khake baitha hai
such a notorious username in such a solemn place :(
even as per his answer also i am getting 90, i think chahe kuch bhi answer key mein, net result same rehtaa haai@sunnyleony ye admi light wale question me history me ghus gaya. bhaang khake baitha hai
such a notorious username in such a solemn place :(
He is trolling here actually.
i can't agree more bro
so i am getting 88-90 only considering
article 32 (d) wrong
cooker 123 wrong
iyengar d corect
led a wrong
sutlej wrong
montford (d) wrong
mitocondria (c) correct
megnetite (d) correct
co (d) correct
state b wrong
concentration of wealth (new doubtful, by this man) welfare state (wrong)
if i got 3 of these 8 question ( which i have considered wrong) then also i may clear cutoff
mitochondria one is wrong correct is A
so i am getting 88-90 only considering
article 32 (d) wrong
cooker 123 wrong
iyengar d corect
led a wrong
sutlej wrong
montford (d) wrong
mitocondria (c) correct
megnetite (d) correct
co (d) correct
state b wrong
concentration of wealth (new doubtful, by this man) welfare state (wrong)
if i got 3 of these 8 question ( which i have considered wrong) then also i may clear cutoff
what is led a which question
that guy is also telling thisso i am getting 88-90 only considering
article 32 (d) wrong
cooker 123 wrong
iyengar d corect
led a wrong
sutlej wrong
montford (d) wrong
mitocondria (c) correct
megnetite (d) correct
co (d) correct
state b wrong
concentration of wealth (new doubtful, by this man) welfare state (wrong)
if i got 3 of these 8 question ( which i have considered wrong) then also i may clear cutoff
mitochondria one is wrong correct is A
which one
@sunnyleony tumhare alawa sab berozgaar hain yahan
bhai ise ghaas mat daalo ye troll lagta he
Guys, asking out of anxiety. Till now I had no doubt about copper smelting being D. But few people are doubting it. What does the majority in our group think ?
carbon monoxide is used in as reactant hence it doesn't release in lethal quantities hence d is incorrect this is what majority of coaching say but I'm not sure i also marked D :(
@rawhull def in A includes tribal governments in forests as well..with that consideration i marked B as well...i counted it wrong too anyway.
bro standard definition of state is according to Montevideo convention of 1933 whoch says 4 elements form state territory people govt and sovereignty option b doesn't have sovereignty
@srivalliguru940 I was about to mark B. But then I found that sovereign is absent, so marked A. B looked comprehensive except for the word sovereignty. Rest depends on what UPSC decides.
it's A for sure
Yeah epf is surely right. See Hindi translation. They said “ hakhdar “. Which is wrong. So it’s 2&3.
supreme court recently said all casual workers are entitled to epf, are u doing some appeasement or something,?
in light question, it cant travel in straight line. my logic was refractive index. coin in a water vessel looks raised. so light bends. that diagram is also there when light enters one medium to next
iska answer light speed doesn't vary he. forget everything else. Light shows dual property where it can also behave as wave. Speed of light is like TATHAGATA, beyond all coming and going. it's constant and this is at heart of Einstein's relativity theory. baki cheeze bhul jao, light speed doesn't change.
@saurabher43267kisi ke pas chenab ka source hai kya... please share
I marked Sutlej as answer. Chenab ka kisi book me toh nahi hai.
BRO READ INDUS WATER TREATY, IT OFFICIALLY SAYS CHENAB INCLUDES PANJNAD AND PANJNAD IS ACTUALLY THE RIVER THAT JOINS INDUS DIRECT AFTER TAKING WATERS FROM CHENAB AND SUTLEJ. SO IT'S CHENAB BRO, I.R. AND GEOGRAPHY KA MIX QUESTION THA
Satluj may be right? what u think?
sorry bro it's chenab , it's there in indus water treaty
@Strugglehard high chances of getting 5/6 correct , Right to city still appears debatable
i don't think it's human right, no UN website mentions it. it's sems to be just a fantasy of few misguided marxist activists nothing else. imagine rhe the nature of lawlessness in case it becomes a human right
Compiling list of para questions that I searched on google1. With respect to what are called denominations of religionAns -- c2 it is certain that sedition war and contemptAns -- c3.inequality violates a basic democratic norm : the eaqual standing of peopleAns - c4. Aristocratic govt ruins itselfAns -- b5 india faces challenging immediate futureAns a6 . There are reports that some of the antibioticsAns d7 policy makers and media have placedAns b8 a central message of modern developmentAnd a9.fig treesAns -- d10 at the heart of agroecologyAns -- a11 computer increasinglyAns -- a12 resachers stimulated street lightingAns-- b13 approximately 80 percentAns b14 a study conducted on the impacts of climate changeAnd - c15 resachers were able to use stem cellsAns d16 medieval merchantsAns -- c17 most people would agree that telling deliberate liesAns -- 1--2--- b18nothing can exist in natural stateAns -- asource- TG
q 1 about religion is D, it's picked from a work of spinoza (if i remember correctly) but i strongly feel itst D
The river Satluj vs Chenab, what are the args for Chenab, someone pls educate me with sources and diagrams!
can't give diagrams as this isn't geography optional paper lol.
The Chenab shall be deemed to include the river Panjnad;
the above line picked from below river, The river asked in paper was actually panjnad
https://mea.gov.in/bilateral-documents.htm?dtl/6439/Indus
@rawhull broMagnetite (d)Smelting (d)Casual worker (2 and 3)Arcot(2 and3)Synthetic /artificial (d)British model (b)Mitochondria(b)State (b)Arcot(2 and 3)ChenabCooker (d)
Article 14
Which can be right probably?
article 14, chenab and magnetite absolutely correct bro
@rawhull broMagnetite (d)Smelting (d)Casual worker (2 and 3)Arcot(2 and3)Synthetic /artificial (d)British model (b)Mitochondria(b)State (b)Arcot(2 and 3)ChenabCooker (d)
Article 14
Which can be right probably?
article 14, chenab and magnetite absolutely correct bro
cooker, arcot etc I an not sure but they may be correct too if you have blessings of upsc 😅
New trend -
I marked this A
I marked this B
I marked this C
Which one can be right and which cant be?
(Jse question setter ne forum pr discuss krke paper set kiya ho and so, jo idhr btaynge whi shi hoga)
Add on to this.
I marked this and that in these questions. I have considered all wrong and now my score is xx.xx. what are my chances!!
There are so many variables that it is nearly impossible to predict. Gone are the days when one can claim with surety that I will get through.
That scares me.if it is true everyone gets 90 excluding 8 qstns its quite shocking.
the only great optimism lies in hoping not much of those 8 questions go correct and a few of ones already considered correct go wrong 😂😂😂
New trend -
I marked this A
I marked this B
I marked this C
Which one can be right and which cant be?
(Jse question setter ne forum pr discuss krke paper set kiya ho and so, jo idhr btaynge whi shi hoga)
Add on to this.
I marked this and that in these questions. I have considered all wrong and now my score is xx.xx. what are my chances!!
There are so many variables that it is nearly impossible to predict. Gone are the days when one can claim with surety that I will get through.
That scares me.if it is true everyone gets 90 excluding 8 qstns its quite shocking.
the only great optimism lies in hoping not much of those 8 questions go correct and a few of ones already considered correct go wrong 😂😂😂
That's what I hope lol but it flies in the face of qstn paper being wrong.only solace is last year too everyone claimed they were unable to get in even after scoring above 105 when cutoff is just 92.so I m inclined to think cutoff won't go above 85 but in terms of upsc keys.
my personal experience suggests the same bro. last year paper was a cake walk, it never bothered me but this year I felt real discomfort. in first cycle i could mark only 36 questions and this was where panic gripped me. I strongly feel cutoff ought to decline and in worst case remain same but in no case I feel it to rise. And also when difficult factual questions find their way to the paper in abundance, one's efficiency and confidence naturally declines and this affects his or her performance even in medium and easy questions.
@madeye A will be correct at all costs. I have many reasons to prove why its right without even going into depths of it and just by seeing the statement that UPSC has given as a long one being very specific in what it asked. Then in such options youhave to be clear. Rest, as far as knowledge is concerned, 2nd statement is wrong is also addressed by me. BTW i marked C. taking it wrong. Just read the statement. So many exact words used: "constitution bench", "parliament act". and look at daily examples. do we have a consitution bench for every 2nd act which SC tests?
this question was asked in comparison to UK system and if we look at it relatively option b also makes sense as we have such a mechanism but UK does not. So i feel it should be c shubhra ranjan mam also says c
@rawhull i know acc to mam its correct. last year preamble question, she claimed the answer different fromothers. i believed her and markedit correct. i think itswrong.
official answer key isnt out how you can say she was wrong what was her answer
@GOT8 oops.. sorry bro..
thoda misunderstanding ho gaya dono me
@rawhullPuri sir ka explanation dekha aapne.. regarding British model..
i read and he made a blunder in my opinion. Supreme court established constitution bench to check validity of aadhar act earlier which was again an act of parliament and not constitutional amendment. Also article 143 nowhere mentions constituional amendment only . it says " for the purpose of deciding any case involving a substantial question of law as to the interpretation of this Constitution" puri sir may be great and i am nothing in front of him but due to adhar act scenario i am not convinced by his argument
Many people are telling to consider the doubtful questions as wrong.. but how many double questions are there? I mark the following doubtful questions-
Copper smelting d
Pressure cooker d
State a
Indus - chenab
Rtc- 2&3
Mitochondria- a
Virus - d
Magnetite- d
EPFO 2&3
Art 32
British model c
Federalism a
my brother i think you have atleast 7 out of them correct wonderful
Many people are telling to consider the doubtful questions as wrong.. but how many double questions are there? I mark the following doubtful questions-
Copper smelting d
Pressure cooker d
State a
Indus - chenab
Rtc- 2&3
Mitochondria- a
Virus - d
Magnetite- d
EPFO 2&3
Art 32
British model c
Federalism a
Copper smelting D
pressure cooker 1 and 3 only
article 14 for uncontrolled legislation
upsc tricked us all, copper smelting may not be D :(
@leftfaithinmyself bhai 32 sahi h...kehne do duniya ko jo bolti h. i read a lawoctopus page about afspa...won't post here..log irritate honge.
Paste karo sir ji, dekhna hai, I have chose article 32 over article 14
Interpreting Provisions of The Armed Forces (special Powers) act, 1958 - Academike (lawctopus.com)
@rawhull bhai uska answer article 32 hai. maan ja na yaar
bhai me man jau ek convincing argement dede. article 32 tab use hota he jab kisi bande ka fundamental righgt violate ho. executive ko power mile he abhi usne kisi ka f.r. violate nhi kia. article 14 is equality before law .
i understand thoda conceptual aur tough question tha koi baat nahi galti ho gyi apse ho jati he no problem cheer up bro
@rawhull arey i marked article 14. obviously those who marked article 32 are the ones ready with research work. so i was saying that you can agree with them.
thoda sa humse misunderstanding ho gaya shayad :D
If in astronomical aspects all the mediums are considered as vacuum only then d would be correct choice but if we consider the atmosphere around earth here it will have bearing on speed of light as well.
Light travels at a constant, finite speed of 186,000 mi/sec. . this is given in the website of nasa How "Fast" is the Speed of Light? (nasa.gov) now its your choice whether to trust nasa aur "do take ki sasti lucent"
Carbon monoxide answer will be most probably 2&3 only because u people are focusing on word “MAY” only and not on word “LETHAL”. If I say may release than even .00001ppm makes it right but if I say may release lethal than it must breach lethal amount which is not the case
i agree with you boss, though i marked all of these i.e. D, i am always open to getting corrected and enlightened
Light travels at a constant, finite speed of 186,000 mi/sec. . this is given in the website of nasa How "Fast" is the Speed of Light? (nasa.gov) now its your choice whether to trust nasa aur "do take ki sasti lucent"
Bro thora sa time dekarke wahin pe nasa ke website pe hi light year ka concept dekh lete aap
bhai thoda to sharm karo kitni mehnat karwaoge.
""light travels in a straight line in Class VI; it does not do so in Class XII and beyond!""
this line is copied from and given in link of class 12 ncert physicsChapter-10.pmd (ncert.nic.in) see blue box page 3/35 bhai ever heard of wave optics ya science background se nahi ho ?
now look at option c "c) Light always travels in straight line. " yahipar wrong prove ho gaya na?
ek aur baat jo change nahi ho use CONSTANT kehte he. look at the list of constants in this ncert pdf in appendix 3 . speed of light is at top Appendices and Answers.PMD (ncert.nic.in)
if you are wrong accept it instead of fighting againt your own self. break open your cocoon of utopia. bhai matlab easy questions ko bina baat ke uljha rahe ho atleast research to kia karo. doosre log distract hote he.
Light travels at a constant, finite speed of 186,000 mi/sec. . this is given in the website of nasa How "Fast" is the Speed of Light? (nasa.gov) now its your choice whether to trust nasa aur "do take ki sasti lucent"
Bro thora sa time dekarke wahin pe nasa ke website pe hi light year ka concept dekh lete aap
bhai thoda to sharm karo kitni mehnat karwaoge.
""light travels in a straight line in Class VI; it does not do so in Class XII and beyond!""
this line is copied from and given in link of class 12 ncert physicsChapter-10.pmd (ncert.nic.in) see blue box page 3/35 bhai ever heard of wave optics ya science background se nahi ho ?
now look at option c "c) Light always travels in straight line. " yahipar wrong prove ho gaya na?
ek aur baat jo change nahi ho use CONSTANT kehte he. look at the list of constants in this ncert pdf in appendix 3 . speed of light is at top Appendices and Answers.PMD (ncert.nic.in)
if you are wrong accept it instead of fighting againt your own self. break open your cocoon of utopia. bhai matlab easy questions ko bina baat ke uljha rahe ho atleast research to kia karo. doosre log distract hote he.
Bhaii ye context mein samajho ki astronomical unit measurement karne ke liye ye fact isliye to consider kiya jata hai ki light straight line mein travel karta hai taki jo actual mein Bending hota hai gravity so wo sab ignore karke classical mechanics ke distance =speed *time wala formula applicable aur utilise kar sake
boss option may absolute sense me kaha he ki c) Light always travels in straight line. ab jab ye statement hi wrong he to c kaise select kar sakte he.
@Captainnerd yaar lekin fir toh har cheez straight line par travel karegi agr uspar force padegi toh , even a ball thrown from Earth .. I accept iska matlab yeh hoga ki ball has same speed too similar to light toh woh statement bhi galat hoga .. But read thisAlbert Einstein, in his theory of special relativity, determined that the laws of physics are the same for all non-accelerating observers, and he showed that the speed of light within a vacuum is the same no matter the speed at which an observer travelsthis is not applicable for other things…Rest assured , if It has answer other than D, I will quit my preparation for good..Tag me when the answer key comesAgar yeh bhi sahi nahin hua after doing so much courses on light , I will admit I lack basics and will quit the whole preparation
bro you are hundred percent correct.
@srivalliguru940 upsc has something in her mind. They must have already thought about all these.upsc is ahead of coachings and candidates in terms of everything
i agree there arises no question of cancelling any q whether its devi lar or cooker or whatever. Its unfair to assume upsc made blundersor typo. Gods and upsc do not make mistakes :D
yeah, let’s assume that someone by chance knows about Elections in 1989 and 1991. He would obviously eliminate statement 2 first. But are you sure that it’s wrong ?
in 1989 lok sabha shree devi lal ji won from two seats rohtak (hr) and sikar (rj) and in 1991 won from rohtak. No records of "CONTESTING" from how many seats is presented by anyone here. So in that case perhaps he might have contested from 3 seats but lost from two in 1991 LS election. If anyone has any official data to prove otherwise kindly enlighten us
@rawhull check my comment above. ECI documents with list of candidates for both elections. Now, all we can do is pray to UPSC
agreed bro you are correct
@sushil_21 what happened? Do u have any patience at all in first place?
General Election, 1991 (Vol I, II) - Election Commission of India (eci.gov.in) check the 1991 election all contestants and all shree devi lal ji features only once. they are probably correct.
@assistant its type error...first go and check the documents carefully.Then argue with me.
dont worry bro assistant seems to be in state of arrogant disbelief, maybe his score is somewhere across borders, cant say
i cannot saywith authority but i do feel thats very much the case
@Capedcrusader1 88+/-2
shankar , iasbaba , insights sabne last time se kam bataya he wahi broader consensus man sakte he
@rawhull How much has IASBaba predicted?
85+ prepare for mains according to their telegram post
Kya Khullar ko Authentic source maana jaa sakta hai Indus wale question me ? Sutlej mention kiya gaya hai book me. Length wise table me bhi sabse jyada length hai Sutlej ka according to Khullar.
Kisi NCERT ( Old/ New) me ye clearly mention nahi hai.
INDUS WATER TREATY CLEARLY SAYS PANJNAD RIVER IS INCLUDED IN CHENAB AND IT'S PANJNAD THAT TAKES WATER OF CHENAB AND SUTLEJ TO JOIN INDUS
Hello guys .. alot of bloodshed has been happening so please dont beat me or cuss at me when I say this ..
so I spoke to one of my professors at DU (Political science department) about that polity question - safeguards of liberty in a liberal democracy and she definitely says the answer is Elected Government. She said though separation of powers and rule of law are other ingredients but all of them wont be possible if a state does not have anelectedgovernmentat first (also the question specifically says liberal democracy) .. only then those things can be assured. She also told me that with respect to such questions - read some philosophers (even if not from an optional background) like Aristotle, JS mill , Berlin etc in free time and that may in general invoke some interest. Also despite my background in this subject , I haven’t taken PSIR optional so don’t think that I am in anyway advertising any optional .. just putting an end to this debate of “one of many interpretation “based questions.
I too marked Elected government option but ye wala galat hai. Mera 2 polity ke mistakes bahut bhaari padne wale hain. Doosra Article 32 mark kiya maine.
Yaar unhone bola toh correct Elected govt hai .. I asked an expert to finally put an end to this debate ki kya hoga ..
even I marked that article wala question as 32. Some stupid mistakes of polity and economy(like that last resort question)is also going to cost me alot ..
probably your expert isn't so expert. because there is a difference between elected government and elected government by universal adult franchise
INDUS WATER TREATY CLEARLY SAYS PANJNAD RIVER IS INCLUDED IN CHENAB AND IT'S PANJNAD THAT TAKES WATER OF CHENAB AND SUTLEJ TO JOIN INDUS
Means Wrong information is given in D R Khullar Indian geography book.
khuller sir is not god but man and men can make mistakes, its completely normal and ok. but indus water treaty document is more credible than khuller sir
@rawhull So people are this delusional that they go to any extent to prove their answers to be right.. to the point of discrediting respectable authors...what are you gonna do next.?rewrite special theory of relativity just because you assumed speed of light to not be constant
Lol i schooled someone to prove that speed of light is actually constant. And I'm sharing official data the indus water treaty document. where is delusion? maybe it's with you who feel experts can't make mistakes. But i understand your scores may have put you along such vulnerable lines that such revelations may be intimidating to you.
Khuller sir is nice and great but how can you ignore indus water treaty document that says Chenab includes pajnad. would have added the link but you don't deserve my effort go search for it.so exit your "bhakt mode" and stop bhakti of intellectuals. they can make mistakes too.
@rawhull So people are this delusional that they go to any extent to prove their answers to be right.. to the point of discrediting respectable authors...what are you gonna do next.?rewrite special theory of relativity just because you assumed speed of light to not be constant
making matters worse,the correct answer of mitochondria diseases is not b or C but A. btw looking at level of "intellectual ko baap banao" and "intellectual are never wrong but official bilateral document brokered by world bank can be wrong" trending flawlessly in india I truly feel "desh sankat main he" Tum wo log ho jo agar kal kisi acclaimed author ne keh diya india is communist to bologe ha india is communist, official preamble ka kya he, acclaimed author ne to communist bola😂😂😂 kher i understand taqleed hui he apko, kyuki ab Sutlej essentially wrong ho chuka he. to dhua to aap nikaloge hi😂
Even after 13 days, candidates are hell bent in proving their opinion and answer correct.
Padh lo mains ke lie.. UPSC won't change it's key bases on how strong your argument is.
It's an utterly futile exercise to debate about an answer. because UPSC khud nahi jaanta.
Paper setter would be laughing seeing the level of hair splitting going on here. Wo bhi sochenge -Humne to itna socha hi nahi paper set karte samay.. Ye kya bakwaas chal rhaa hai aspirants ke beech me.
Sachchai yahi hai ki UPSC pre ka paper kachra hai.. And isko nikalne wale koi intellectual nahi hain.. And upsc ye baat jaanta hai
the thread is "how was yout prelims"and not "give gyaan and demean upsc paper",
People referring to IWT read this.
1.Preamble to the IWT is not having any absolute terms. It mentions the possibility of challenging the terms of the treaty with respect to application of any provisions
2.Article 1(2) Defines what a tributary is and Article 1(3)(i) states categorically that the five rivers doesn't come under the scop of the term tributaries as given in Article 1(2) . Reading these two together can make the question itself absurd if we take this as a source.
3.It is written that Chenab SHALL be deemed to include panjnad. This apart from the geographical aspects of the confluence of the two rivers read with the Political boundaries has nothing to do with the hydrology. Also, SHALL is equivalent to MAY when it comes to interpretation of a statute.
4.Hydroelectric projects in Chenab tributaries are carried out by India and they are opposed by Pakistan. We are supposed to hold the ground which is favourable to India and Not Pakistan which enjoys the luxury of having the hydrological confluence of the rivers in her territory.
5.The answer is Sutlej. Take A SS and wait till the answer key next year
Its painful how low you have stooped in order to defend your false fantasies.
point 1 - its not preamble its DEFINITION UNDER ARTICLE 1 of iwt, chashma kaha rakha he lagao
point 2 that makes no case for sutlej neither discredits chenab
point 3 SHALL means MAY according to you lol rofl and what not. so this is article 1 of indian constitution —(1) India, that is Bharat, SHALL be a Union of States , so you mean shall means may lmao height of stupidity
point 4 so what , it doesnt make sense
point 5 - I gave you a credible source. Indus water treaty was in news in 2021. What is your credible source you never mentioned. AAP kaise keh sakte ho sutluj. NCERT class 11 book also says chenab is the longest tributary Also Khuller sir ne kaha se uthaya sutlej, koi to source hoga, kaha he wo source.
chenab is deemed to include panjnad ab isse bada kya source chahiye bhai. Smell some coffee.
@rawhull So mr subject expert..in your delusional eyes there was a specific mention of "in the context of Indus water treaty" in the question right!!Also ever heard of dunning kruger effect ? please google and look at yourself..seems you are a patent manifesation of such a phenomenon
Ye kruger vruger bolkar jyada smart mat bano , im not smart i just happen to research well . i dont blindly believe people and rather believe only credible sources. Under article 51(c) of indian constitution you should also respect the iwt.
@rawhull From your assumptions i can glean a few things..only mr subject expert(whatever your name is) has access to and knowledge about a 60 year old water sharing agreement but not the editors or publishers of a relatively popular geography text book..Neither do the editors at Britannica have any idea of such an agreement and that panjnad is indeed chenab(according to your wild assumptions)
look britannica has nowhere said that sutlej includes panjnad or joins indus direct. Also how can you believe any popular text book blindly . They must be having a source right. Kaha he ssource, unhe kaha se pata chala ki sutlej ye karnama karti he. Mera source of Indus water treaty he, tumhari textbook ka source kya he. Ese hi kuch bhi book me likh denge maan loge? Ncert class 8 me kaha he first factory of east india company was built at kalkatta "The first English factory was set up on the banks of the river Hugli in 1651." maan loge? science and rationality proceeds by falsification and not by blind adherence.
I say it again present a credible source, and if not go read it
Indus Waters Treaty (mea.gov.in)
What if upsc gives both Chenab and Sutlej as correct as it has given two answers to be correct in csat this year?
PS: I don't know why I keep reading this thread silently.😆
wont happen bro, such errors have consistently happened in state pcs exams like mppsc pre in recent years, but upsc wont make such errors
I had requested before that this guy be banned. High time the forum moderators look over this issue. His antics have been getting more grotesque day after day. From posting fake result notifications (which is technically a crime since he used UPSC’s letter head) to now making unprovoked derogatory comments . Such antics must be dealt with an iron hand for the purposes of the sanity of this forum, especially when a lot of us remain psychologically vulnerable in anticipation of the result currently.
i doubt if there is any such mechanism already in place. because this is certain that you cannot delete your account here once you create it. probably moderators are technically helpless or way too liberal so much so that it almost approaches the stance of ignorance.
see page 30...same is written here also...This is last from my side... regarding Satluj.. lets leave it to UPSC
on the document you shared you may read top of page 19 to get clearer idea. Moreover i think "Finally "means what is the final fate of any tributary, its to drain in indus so same fate of all rivers draining into indus "finally"
that was my final submission, i rest my case :)
UPSC hasn't even released last year's key.And last laugh?? Based on what? UPSC keys? You think that UPSC keys are always correct?They hire people who can't even research enough to frame a proper question.I am in this game for the last 5 years, cleared pre all the time. Maybe this time too. And I have learnt one think- don't make this exam too personal and emotive.Pre is absurd and absurdity mustn't let you become more absurd in discussing this for 2 whole weeks.Even if the GOI documents reveal that sutlej is the answer, UPSC might surprise with a completely different answer. And the excited spectator that we are now will suddenly become mute spectators, accepting the dictatorship of the commission.I know you don't like gyan, but gyaan is all I have after 4 failures.
I'm here only from last 2 days because i was getting bored. and this thing is really cool , new, and exciting right now. I'm still studying my optional and meanwhile wasting some time here too.
Government document on the contrary says chenab is answer btw
I totally respect your knowledge, experience and struggle boss, I am always open for gyan provided it's credible and convincing. I hope you finally taste the great success in upsc cse.
Pls see first part of question.
Three out of four given Rivers meet with 4th one..only Chenab fits in that criteria.
Sutlej may or may not drain directly, individually but Sutlej not taking waters from Jhelum and Ravi directly for sure.
I guess this was the trap.
Although, I want Satluj to be correct for mine +2 but I'm hopeless.
Where it was written in the question that all 3 other tributaries should directly drain into the 4th one. The combined water of all three tributaries drain into Sutlej and it can be found in the book also. Also Sutlej by length is the longest tributary of Indus and this is a Fact.
Even if Upsc gives the answer Chenab or even Jhelum, we can't do anything.
"pour" is there in the q and Sutlej is not the longest tributary, it's chenab see ncert class 11. it clearly says that
UPSC hasn't even released last year's key.And last laugh?? Based on what? UPSC keys? You think that UPSC keys are always correct?They hire people who can't even research enough to frame a proper question.I am in this game for the last 5 years, cleared pre all the time. Maybe this time too. And I have learnt one think- don't make this exam too personal and emotive.Pre is absurd and absurdity mustn't let you become more absurd in discussing this for 2 whole weeks.Even if the GOI documents reveal that sutlej is the answer, UPSC might surprise with a completely different answer. And the excited spectator that we are now will suddenly become mute spectators, accepting the dictatorship of the commission.I know you don't like gyan, but gyaan is all I have after 4 failures.
how do you know btw whom they hire boss? and they prepare 100 percent accurate answer keys, ye sab hawaa me nahi chal raha, pura desh scrutiny rakhta he civil service exam he sir, bachcho ka fancy dress competition nahi chal raha annual function me
@sleeplessnights89 check out mrunal's article on 2021 analysis. He has mentioned where this question can be found i guess.
dekho you are not supposed to know everything. skip bhavbhuti or babaji ki booty type question. but yadavas are a prominent midieval dynasty. so if you remove yadavas you get answer.
a good reading of r s sharma ancient and satish chandra medeival both ncert is fine
@sleeplessnights89 check out mrunal's article on 2021 analysis. He has mentioned where this question can be found i guess.
mrunal does postmartum, it did not tell sources of next year 2022 pre right? hum kya byomkesh bakshi he ke upsc ne kaha s e q nikala uska pichha kare :D focus on basic books but atleast read them well is my advice
@toooldtodieyoung lots of silent such q were there1. application of ai , wireless electricity and meaningful stories is wrong2. 6 month vote minister one, option a is wrong3. india actully enjoyed current account surplus so that one went wrong for manyi cant remember but there were 2-3 more such questions. last time all of us had absolute blessings of coaching instutuins and so we didi not realise it as a result everyone got atleast 3 questions wrong in final key 3*(2+(2/3)) = 8but many made more such errors
Last year i was in minority for these questions and my finals marks were more than that by coaching keys
you alongwith me are also in minotity this time in questions like chenab. but as they say common sense is not so common. ;D
@oopsie lol, i am not scaring anyone. 94 according to vision. But will it be the same with UPSC key? No-one is sure this time..
ye dar mujhe bhi tha jiska coachings se 116 aa raha tha but final score 102 aaya. this time since 99 percent questions are not doubtful and clearcut hence you dont have to worry this time
@WayneRooney Arey Reservation to women ka answer B hi hai bhai, maine proof dala tha. Yeah question Cds 2020 mei bhi aaya tha aur uski answer key mei sahi option tha yeah Don't worry, +2.67 and enjoy India pak match
my best wisheSto pakistan cricket team main asha karta hu unki bharat ke khilaf haar ka antar thoda kam ho is bar baaki jitega to india hi isme kya doubt :D
had not attempted the St Francis question. just saw the explanation in Mrunal. That question is just psycho. He died outside India, but was buried in Goa and a church was built. The 2nd option in the question was that he died in Goa and a church is dedicated to him there. How exactly are we supposed to know this??. People with half knowledge would have definitely marked it wrong
to leave that q bhai, uske bina bhi 110 tak marks laa sakte ho
@kohliwag lol. churches are not what i visit when in goa. so i was safe
naughty and hillarious
@rawhull i just read an indian express article and option 3 is definitely correct which most coaching are saying it is wrong. And rtc is not a human right. https://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/habitat-iii-and-draft-new-urban-agenda-right-to-city-3010794/
i know everything take refuge in me rofl. if i say d its d lmao
@rawhull lmao. what about copper smelting, state, magnetite and pressure cooker? which options are correct?
right to city is D. copper smelting 2 and3. state A Magnetite all of them. cooker dont know :( but most probably not D as they use word "mainly"
@rawhull so you dont think copper smelting will be d? What about epfo?
i am confident smelting is not D as carbon monixide is consumed not released. in epfo all i can say is option A is correct
@kohliwag lol. churches are not what i visit when in goa. so i was safe
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but ap to bahut sanskari ho waha jakar churches dekhe. I aspire to be as virtuous as you :)
@rawhull My college is nearer to Goa 😂😂
always a dream to live in the Western side of Western ghats, lush green and scenic na?
Absolutely. And our college is the only one India you have a private beach . Missing that life 🙌🏻
only mat bolo usuually ese statements wrong hota hain
@rawhull Your tenor of comments seem like you are scoring 140+ in paper 1 and 160+ in Paper 2. I don't know, Don't be too much brash.
not 140 but comfortably clearing. anyways apne naraz kar diya mujhe. I am leaving this group on an irreversible basis in half an hour
