@Neyawn sir ur views on this?
Handwriting classes ?
Can you tell me
1. Did you ever see a newspaper ad for handwriting class?
2. Did you see a YouTube video about handwriting class?
3. Did you see such classes being organised every year ?
4. How did you know about these classes?
sir, no newspaper ad , or YouTube video was there, but mail was sent to students about program. I heard this from one of my friends l. I think last year for mains it was organised. And one class was arranged 2-3 years back.
bt sir, pls tell me why toppers promote coaching institutes when dey hv not coaching, or wen coachings say that xyz is our student.. bt it is actually fake ..for eg garima lohiya m'am said she didn't take coaching anywhere.. bt I saw forum ads saying garima lohiya ias rank 2 ws student of forumias... What is the real truth..
But sir, dont you think when coachings claim result they should declare what %tage of their students are getting selected? if 100,000 students are studying ( example ) then how many will get selected?
Also sir, satyam jain has compared you to sahara chief subroto roy who took millions from poor people and went down with their hard earned savings..
bt sir, pls tell me why toppers promote coaching institutes when dey hv not coaching, or wen coachings say that xyz is our student.. bt it is actually fake ..for eg garima lohiya m'am said she didn't take coaching anywhere.. bt I saw forum ads saying garima lohiya ias rank 2 ws student of forumias... What is the real truth..
plz verify before writing anything ,it's request .
She was a part of MGP and dipin sir's class .
But why doesn’t Forum clarify the truth when she is actual student and not paid by forumias. so many people think she is paid by forum
And since you have been asking questions - what about this candidate - so Mr Kartik Brahmabhatt as shown in picture above is the typical case of a person coming to Delhi, but sitting in his room and doing what he could have done in his room. With MGP at least he may have written a few hundred answers , and read some very good answers. And even in the absence of evaluation or mentorship, if someone write those many answers and read good content, he would become something.
And its sad because he could not cut the noise on the internet. I will probably meet him after 2 years.
No disrespect sir, but if u knw he will cm to u after 2 years… why did u MK dat video.. don’t burn test series.. do it instead?
And since you have been asking questions - what about this candidate - so Mr Kartik Brahmabhatt as shown in picture above is the typical case of a person coming to Delhi, but sitting in his room and doing what he could have done in his room. With MGP at least he may have written a few hundred answers , and read some very good answers. And even in the absence of evaluation or mentorship, if someone write those many answers and read good content, he would become something.
And its sad because he could not cut the noise on the internet. I will probably meet him after 2 years.
No disrespect sir, but if u knw he will cm to u after 2 years… why did u MK dat video.. don’t burn test series.. do it instead?
Short answer : It impacts our results.
I am going to write a whole essay on this as to why I would make that video in response someday. And no, none of my colleagues or faculty supported my idea of making that video. But for the paucity of time, I will answer this shortly here..
Layman Thinking - It must be impacting their admissions/ revenue / sales
Short Answer.. Because it impacts the performance, career of our students and impacts the selections from the Institute.
You see Civils is a tiresome, sometimes long preparation journey. And there are so many uncertainties. In this, you will need to have a plan and will have to follow it rigorously,/ religiously without an element of doubt. You will need to believe in what you are doing. And if somone comes and disturbs you - you are gone. That whole year is gone.
MGP is a self study program - the onus of the hard work is on the student. You will need a lot of will power, commitment, sincerity and discipline to do MGP. Its not like everyone can do it or everyone can extract value from it.
When you make such video and create doubts in the minds of students, what happens is that students who have enrolled for the program will pay the fees, but wont write the tests. Most people are already fragile in their minds. Even the good ones.
And there will be difference in the preparation and performance of students who have spent, lets say 30-70 hours in test writing ( which would mean 300-400 hours of studying at least ), and someone who has not.
When you tell people that you should not write answers, just because the evaluator may give you average marks, or he is a single cellular organism with no brains, incapable of existing as a human - you end up telling people not to apply their minds to good questions, to great answers, to some great , well written copies, and some very meaningful inputs given by a mentor on your copies. He simply loses one attempt.
Not everyone has the financial and mental capacity to make up for that lost attempt. And I can tell you that while admissions increased, students who were not in Delhi - not connected to a core crowd of serious aspirants - lost all confidence and did not write tests - wasting one complete year.
I am ashamed to say that I , individually did not do enough to fight it - because I allowed the negativity to thrive - convinced that it will filter the crowd to Forum - and thats what we really want.
But it does waste the money, time, career and years of hundreds of students who start doubting the programs they have paid for - and then they do not pursue it as they would have normally done.
Not a single day goes when I dont get a mail such as above.
I am not saying candidates who write tests will clear the civils 100%. But at least they will make progress. And maybe we can catch them when they progress and help them reach the destination. But how can you help , when the person has not made progress in weeks, months and years.
Look, we did not get Rank 1 in ForumIAS when we had thousands of students. We only had 300 students, and we got ranks 1,3,5,7,10 from less than 300 students. And each we knew personally, I am in touch with each one of them.
Today, I want top Ranks in CSE , because we did something to aid their preparation - not because we have thousands of students - so obviously someone will get selected. We want to have a high % contribution in the selection of the student.
That is my mission, and that is my reason.
Will write more on this as and when I get time
Don't mean any disrespect sir.. but where is forum result affected ?? this yr also result is same as last year only.. then hw u draw conclusions that it impacts results..?
@ravisingh2633 what is ur problem? Hv I said sath that u get offended ? I m only asking why am PPL are saying things..let truth cm out in d open..it is for betterment of asprnt commnty.
N y es@Daiichi comment deleted..evn though normally we aren't allwd to delete our cmmnts..
@Neyawn sir, satyam sir hs shared one more dirty secret of coachings that they share the mobile number of toppers among each other.. that's why after selection students start getting calls from all institutes.. why is d truth?
@TwoFace btwI loved your argumentThis is not genuineReason beingSir has guided so many people with his prelims trickThat really makes me thinkHow deep impact he has on his followersThis is Insane
pointing fingers at understand upsc.. but noone is asking questions to forum when
1) they are claiming rank 15 Kunal rastogi ( without testimonial!! On testimonial page ) when he was guided by satyam Jain sir which he is saying on video
2) neyawn sir says satyam Jain sir video led to "negative impact" on result of forum students.. how ?
3) poaching people sharing mobile number of toppers so that "every coaching can claim topper" - business tactics of coaching people.
4) every year forum claims ranks.. and says 50% selected students are from forum.. but don't say out of how many stundents.. not a fair practice...
Aks these questions first to poachings.
@TwoFace btwI loved your argumentThis is not genuineReason beingSir has guided so many people with his prelims trickThat really makes me thinkHow deep impact he has on his followersThis is Insane
pointing fingers at understand upsc.. but noone is asking questions to forum when
1) they are claiming rank 15 Kunal rastogi ( without testimonial!! On testimonial page ) when he was guided by satyam Jain sir which he is saying on video
2) neyawn sir says satyam Jain sir video led to "negative impact" on result of forum students.. how ?
3) poaching people sharing mobile number of toppers so that "every coaching can claim topper" - business tactics of coaching people.
4) every year forum claims ranks.. and says 50% selected students are from forum.. but don't say out of how many stundents.. not a fair practice...
Aks these questions first to poachings.
bro, you should be ashamed of yourself. there is a huge difference between satyam sir whom you are trying to promote...and shivin sir.. just saw this
the whole attitude and body language of satyam sir is manipulative, trying to blame others while he himself does the same with impunity..
i hope this is not satyam sir himself..
with due respect bhai... how do u knw satyam sir is manipulative when noone has seen sir.. how did u see his "body language? "
dont know what is the truth and who to follow.. prelims score of satyam jain sir is an eye opener.. he is giving tips for prelims which didnt work for him.. nd thousands are following him sand feeling confident about prelims .. uselessly.
but neyawn sir why did u say that if u submit copies at last moment we dont give u bad remark which can help improve as it will pull down confidence of student.. satyam sir is right in saying are we milk drinking children that we cant bear feedback.. this is what we are paying for..
and it is not my question alone,, hundreds of aspirants are having this question
