Mains 2021 Result declared - In or Out?
So Mains 2021 has begun. Essay Paper is here
1. https://blog.forumias.com/upsc-ias-mains-2021-essay-question-paper/
2. GS Paper 1 : https://blog.forumias.com/download-upsc-ias-mains-2021-gs-1-question-paper
3. GS Paper 2 : https://blog.forumias.com/download-upsc-ias-mains-2021-gs-2-question-paper
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How was your paper? How did you approach the paper?
@chikuiasbano forest ka bhi btaiye bhai
bhai hum sirf CSE(excluding Forest) ke parinde hai..so no idea bro
how is vision ias essay content enrichment program?
Didn't actually join it, but watched available recent videos on TG, smriti Shah mam takes the classes and she is pretty good at it. I particularly liked the abstract topics wala lecture, others were great too.
If one joins in, the added advantage could be feedback on the assignments and tests which is definitely great.
I watched those lectures one month before mains and didn't join any tests series for essay.
plmokn25688524,Street_lamp
https://m.jagran.com/lite/bihar/bhojpur-six-people-became-assistant-professor-leaving-the-post-of-dsp-and-deputy-collector-22520958.htmlYou can work in PSC jobs for 25 years, be better than all of your UPSC seniors and still new upsc recruits, who also have studied the same GS, will be promoted before you. They'll get better cars, accommodation and other perks.
They'll be learning the job from you and other underlings not just during training but their entire careers and still won't learn the job. They'll trash your work for not using Bureaucratic English. They'll be sort of managing your day to day work.
Every year you'll have to do Gandhigiri to not get transferred to far flung areas. You'll be forced to do dubious things on command of higher ups. But if you're bent and have no morals this is just a great job and will make you rich.
No such thing in Assistant professor jobs. You may even get the top post one day. People tend to look for jobs where they may reach the top.
Asst Professor means no transfers! Set for life. Lots of free time, and if you're really interested in your subject, many opportunities for research and travel, Plus automatic "Respect" in society. They usually (should) leave it only for IAS/IPS home cadre or IFS.
Are you seriously comparing the respect a Dy SP or SDM gets to whatever an Assistant Professor gets.
Even your father's cousin's friend's son will brag about his father's friend's cousin's son is Dy SP or SDM. These people can get things done. They also lend people money because they generally have surplus cash. Assistant professors are always asking to borrow money. Even their children don't think much of them. That's the ugly truth.
But quality of life and work environment is still a lot better in assistant professor
Haha bro... reality is very different. Dy Collector in Bihar seems like a very prestigious post, but when you get into the services, AIS officers will have superiority over you. I know a person who got into Ssc cgl, got one promotion, went to become Dc inBihar , came back to rejoin in centre
I know this all too well. One of my friends in group b service with loads of extra income got selected as assistant professor, he was thinking of declining it. A few bent people were also advising him to decline it. I persuaded him to take the job. I basically told him that If I was in his place I'd throw my resignation today.
He was getting 6000 grade pay I think above that any amount of extra income won't matter if you're not satisfied with your work environment and career progression.
But you do understand that Deputy collectors carry much more weight in society if not in their offices. One of my long distance cousins got SDM in UP PCS and his parents threw a grand party. The pride his parents show is just something else. He soon got an expensive car and lots of money. He got married too.
Seriously? You don't see anything problematic in what you wrote?
Of course I do. We as a society have reached a stage where we condemn corruption and dowry in public but still aspire for it in private. Most people around me would give up a kidney for good postings throughout their careers. That's why people treat seniors offices with more respect than temples. They don't just turn around and walk away. They take few steps backward till they reach the door, bow down then walk away.
Here's a tip, people who are loudest about corruption are the first to sell their souls. Hopefully you'll find out soon. Best of luck.
Thanks for the tip. Now I'll look out for those who are "loudest about corruption" along with those who openly celebrate corruption🙏🏽😊👍🏽
In all my years in government, I haven't had a single lucrative posting nor have I ever asked for it, also I can't do the whole bootlicking thing. I don't know how you confused me stating facts with me celebrating corruption.
It's like if I say Northeast people are called c***** by everyone or the word bihari is treated as abusive word in Northwest or fair skin is worshipped, then all of a sudden you think I'm celebrating all these. It's just plain facts, look around you.
I'm in a govt service too, that too an Accounts service, so I may not need your tuition class about corruption.
You are free to say that someone who talks about corruption is likely to sell their soul, but when the same medicine is given back, you find it bitter. Nice👍🏽
Then you haven't seen enough of government. People who say knowledge a lot are not knowledgable at all and the people who say honesty and integrity a lot always seem to be on lucrative postings. Anyways end of discussion. Women's day functions going on here.
https://m.jagran.com/lite/bihar/bhojpur-six-people-became-assistant-professor-leaving-the-post-of-dsp-and-deputy-collector-22520958.htmlYou can work in PSC jobs for 25 years, be better than all of your UPSC seniors and still new upsc recruits, who also have studied the same GS, will be promoted before you. They'll get better cars, accommodation and other perks.
They'll be learning the job from you and other underlings not just during training but their entire careers and still won't learn the job. They'll trash your work for not using Bureaucratic English. They'll be sort of managing your day to day work.
Every year you'll have to do Gandhigiri to not get transferred to far flung areas. You'll be forced to do dubious things on command of higher ups. But if you're bent and have no morals this is just a great job and will make you rich.
No such thing in Assistant professor jobs. You may even get the top post one day. People tend to look for jobs where they may reach the top.
Asst Professor means no transfers! Set for life. Lots of free time, and if you're really interested in your subject, many opportunities for research and travel, Plus automatic "Respect" in society. They usually (should) leave it only for IAS/IPS home cadre or IFS.
Are you seriously comparing the respect a Dy SP or SDM gets to whatever an Assistant Professor gets.
Even your father's cousin's friend's son will brag about his father's friend's cousin's son is Dy SP or SDM. These people can get things done. They also lend people money because they generally have surplus cash. Assistant professors are always asking to borrow money. Even their children don't think much of them. That's the ugly truth.
But quality of life and work environment is still a lot better in assistant professor
Haha bro... reality is very different. Dy Collector in Bihar seems like a very prestigious post, but when you get into the services, AIS officers will have superiority over you. I know a person who got into Ssc cgl, got one promotion, went to become Dc inBihar , came back to rejoin in centre
I know this all too well. One of my friends in group b service with loads of extra income got selected as assistant professor, he was thinking of declining it. A few bent people were also advising him to decline it. I persuaded him to take the job. I basically told him that If I was in his place I'd throw my resignation today.
He was getting 6000 grade pay I think above that any amount of extra income won't matter if you're not satisfied with your work environment and career progression.
But you do understand that Deputy collectors carry much more weight in society if not in their offices. One of my long distance cousins got SDM in UP PCS and his parents threw a grand party. The pride his parents show is just something else. He soon got an expensive car and lots of money. He got married too.
Seriously? You don't see anything problematic in what you wrote?
Of course I do. We as a society have reached a stage where we condemn corruption and dowry in public but still aspire for it in private. Most people around me would give up a kidney for good postings throughout their careers. That's why people treat seniors offices with more respect than temples. They don't just turn around and walk away. They take few steps backward till they reach the door, bow down then walk away.
Here's a tip, people who are loudest about corruption are the first to sell their souls. Hopefully you'll find out soon. Best of luck.
Thanks for the tip. Now I'll look out for those who are "loudest about corruption" along with those who openly celebrate corruption🙏🏽😊👍🏽
In all my years in government, I haven't had a single lucrative posting nor have I ever asked for it, also I can't do the whole bootlicking thing. I don't know how you confused me stating facts with me celebrating corruption.
It's like if I say Northeast people are called c***** by everyone or the word bihari is treated as abusive word in Northwest or fair skin is worshipped, then all of a sudden you think I'm celebrating all these. It's just plain facts, look around you.
I'm in a govt service too, that too an Accounts service, so I may not need your tuition class about corruption.
You are free to say that someone who talks about corruption is likely to sell their soul, but when the same medicine is given back, you find it bitter. Nice👍🏽
Then you haven't seen enough of government. People who say knowledge a lot are not knowledgable at all and the people who say honesty and integrity a lot always seem to be on lucrative postings. Anyways end of discussion. Women's day functions going on here.
Ppl with previous experience of mains
How much of variation did you see in actual marksheet from your expected conservative marks?
What/How are you improving on since then?
All the best
In my limited knowledge, i feel it's difficult for even an experienced person to judge their marks. Yes, in essay and two optional paper one can easily say whether the paper was disastrous or average to good.
In GS atleast i always got post result/marks wisdom about things that would have gone wrong.
Regarding improvement, it's never easy as one gives attempts, one has to also unlearn while learning new things. So the progress for veterans is based on the combination of-- analysis of previous failures+ energy/positivity for next attempt+ unlearning/learning.
https://m.jagran.com/lite/bihar/bhojpur-six-people-became-assistant-professor-leaving-the-post-of-dsp-and-deputy-collector-22520958.htmlYou can work in PSC jobs for 25 years, be better than all of your UPSC seniors and still new upsc recruits, who also have studied the same GS, will be promoted before you. They'll get better cars, accommodation and other perks.
They'll be learning the job from you and other underlings not just during training but their entire careers and still won't learn the job. They'll trash your work for not using Bureaucratic English. They'll be sort of managing your day to day work.
Every year you'll have to do Gandhigiri to not get transferred to far flung areas. You'll be forced to do dubious things on command of higher ups. But if you're bent and have no morals this is just a great job and will make you rich.
No such thing in Assistant professor jobs. You may even get the top post one day. People tend to look for jobs where they may reach the top.
Asst Professor means no transfers! Set for life. Lots of free time, and if you're really interested in your subject, many opportunities for research and travel, Plus automatic "Respect" in society. They usually (should) leave it only for IAS/IPS home cadre or IFS.
Are you seriously comparing the respect a Dy SP or SDM gets to whatever an Assistant Professor gets.
Even your father's cousin's friend's son will brag about his father's friend's cousin's son is Dy SP or SDM. These people can get things done. They also lend people money because they generally have surplus cash. Assistant professors are always asking to borrow money. Even their children don't think much of them. That's the ugly truth.
But quality of life and work environment is still a lot better in assistant professor
Haha bro... reality is very different. Dy Collector in Bihar seems like a very prestigious post, but when you get into the services, AIS officers will have superiority over you. I know a person who got into Ssc cgl, got one promotion, went to become Dc inBihar , came back to rejoin in centre
I know this all too well. One of my friends in group b service with loads of extra income got selected as assistant professor, he was thinking of declining it. A few bent people were also advising him to decline it. I persuaded him to take the job. I basically told him that If I was in his place I'd throw my resignation today.
He was getting 6000 grade pay I think above that any amount of extra income won't matter if you're not satisfied with your work environment and career progression.
But you do understand that Deputy collectors carry much more weight in society if not in their offices. One of my long distance cousins got SDM in UP PCS and his parents threw a grand party. The pride his parents show is just something else. He soon got an expensive car and lots of money. He got married too.
Seriously? You don't see anything problematic in what you wrote?
Of course I do. We as a society have reached a stage where we condemn corruption and dowry in public but still aspire for it in private. Most people around me would give up a kidney for good postings throughout their careers. That's why people treat seniors offices with more respect than temples. They don't just turn around and walk away. They take few steps backward till they reach the door, bow down then walk away.
Here's a tip, people who are loudest about corruption are the first to sell their souls. Hopefully you'll find out soon. Best of luck.
Thanks for the tip. Now I'll look out for those who are "loudest about corruption" along with those who openly celebrate corruption🙏🏽😊👍🏽
In all my years in government, I haven't had a single lucrative posting nor have I ever asked for it, also I can't do the whole bootlicking thing. I don't know how you confused me stating facts with me celebrating corruption.
It's like if I say Northeast people are called c***** by everyone or the word bihari is treated as abusive word in Northwest or fair skin is worshipped, then all of a sudden you think I'm celebrating all these. It's just plain facts, look around you.
I'm in a govt service too, that too an Accounts service, so I may not need your tuition class about corruption.
You are free to say that someone who talks about corruption is likely to sell their soul, but when the same medicine is given back, you find it bitter. Nice👍🏽
Then you haven't seen enough of government. People who say knowledge a lot are not knowledgable at all and the people who say honesty and integrity a lot always seem to be on lucrative postings. Anyways end of discussion. Women's day functions going on here.
Good to know that we have an Ashok Khemka here. Please don't waste your valuable time discussing with people who haven't seen government as you do! Please continue with your women's day programmes👍🏽
In my limited knowledge, i feel it's difficult for even an experienced person to judge their marks. Yes, in essay and two optional paper one can easily say whether the paper was disastrous or average to good.
In GS atleast i always got post result/marks wisdom about things that would have gone wrong.
Regarding improvement, it's never easy as one gives attempts, one has to also unlearn while learning new things. So the progress for veterans is based on the combination of-- analysis of previous failures+ energy/positivity for next attempt+ unlearning/learning.
So True
Thanks for sharing
ATB
plmokn25688524,RaGa
Ppl with previous experience of mains
How much of variation did you see in actual marksheet from your expected conservative marks?
What/How are you improving on since then?
All the best
Based on experience of mine and of my few friends ( many loopholes r there. Gaali mt dena):
In gs our marks were near to wat we used to get in vision test series. ( Full length tests in last month completed in 3hours). Like if one is getting 100 in vision test series then be assured of getting atleast above 90.
Similarly if one is getting above 120 in essay test series, there r very high chances of getting above 120 in real exam. Excpetions r many. Bt i hv seen clear correlation between visionias test marks (as i consider its test series to b most standard) and final marks.
Although there r issues like prelims failed candidates may b checking those copies bt this was my experience.
plmokn25688524,Street_lamp
nerdslayer,@Street_lamp I did try to improve. I felt improvement was there before the exam in how much things were covered, notes made etc. But, I failed to make this improvement do any major improvement in my performance. 😭🤐
Your efforts will yield good results
ATB👍
Ppl with previous experience of mains
How much of variation did you see in actual marksheet from your expected conservative marks?
What/How are you improving on since then?
All the best
Based on experience of mine and of my few friends ( many loopholes r there. Gaali mt dena):
In gs our marks were near to wat we used to get in vision test series. ( Full length tests in last month completed in 3hours). Like if one is getting 100 in vision test series then be assured of getting atleast above 90.
Similarly if one is getting above 120 in essay test series, there r very high chances of getting above 120 in real exam. Excpetions r many. Bt i hv seen clear correlation between visionias test marks (as i consider its test series to b most standard) and final marks.
Although there r issues like prelims failed candidates may b checking those copies bt this was my experience.
Yeah vision mocks standard relatively better
Thanks for sharing ur experience
ATB👍
plmokn25688524,MichaelScarn
In the essay"the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world" is about motherhood and socialization. But I haven't mentioned anything about it. Am I doomed?
Whether you are doomed or not is for the evaluator to decide.
But "i strongly feel" that power of motherhood and it's great positive impact on the world (by virtue of which it "rules the world") was the core theme or atleast one of the core themes of that essay and thus absolutely non negotiable.
Also, it's a myth that merely by filling all 12 pages of essay one can be assured of triple digit score in essay. In any case however, I pray to god that you do score triple digit score in essay paper.....
https://www.insightsonindia.com/2017/07/04/motivation-nikhil-b-rank-107-second-attempt-essay-score-45-158/
Jajantaram Mamantaram
nerdslayer,Biryani
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