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Civil Services Mains 2020 Results: In or Out ? Way ahead, gratitude and Pain

The Civils Mains result has been declared. This thread is for sharing your grief , joy , mixed feelings - absolutely anything and everything.



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@Ajatashatru  This doubt tormented me so much during this year mains. I usually have a habit of mugging up and I did the same for my optional notes. It was taking very long so I decided to read instead , but was not able to get the satisfaction which I used to derive when I byhearted. Also , it felt incomplete (FOMO was at an all time high as I feared I won't be able to remember in exam). It took some time to get used to it, still not perfect at it.

I have realized that although mugging makes you recall better but it's not useful until you revise. Also , one downfall I think is that you tend to recall the exam same wordings rather than the main idea which yoy want to write . It gets really difficult when there is so much of syllabus and so less time .


PS: Very relieved that I'm not alone and others also grapple with this issue 

Bhai, I have grappled with this issue for 2 mains. FOMO is the exact term.

Now I feel , intro and conclusions, stats for gs and quotes for psir should be by hearted. But rest should be read, multiple times

@Ajatashatru  intro conclusion can be prepared before hand but might lead to some rigidity . Answer writing practice  can solve this problem

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You forgot the O.G.@AzadHindFauz!

Not going to lie, I do think we’re very cool :p 

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Others may also pitch in on this mugging up v/s reading . Seems an overlooked issue 
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dalphasaid

dalphasaid

I know this might not be correct thread to post this but, not getting reply on relevant thread. So please if anyone can help me regarding this ? if you people can't reply here then please pm me. But i'm really stressed about this.

Need some help regarding psir preparation. I have read basic material once but facing difficulties in grasping everything properly. going to write exam in 2021. i was thinking of joining any classroom course. so can anyone suggest what to do ? because shubhra mam's course will run for 6 months starting this july so i don't think that's a viable option. should i join some other classroom course ? also i found some audios of mam's 2018 batch on telegram so would those be reliable ? another option i have heard of is chaubey sir and some other free youtube series. so please anyone who has taken any classroom course before please help me out. 

Thank You

I sorry I saw your post on the PSIR thread but it completely slipped my mind to reply. I wouldn’t suggest joining a classroom course at this point of time for the 2021 attempt. You simply do not have the time or energy to invest unfortunately. I would suggest really sitting down and figuring out the concepts as best as you can. You have the time to devote almost a month per theory section right. So take your time and read your material as many times as is required to drill the concepts into your head. The whole game of PSIR is to know the ins and outs of your theory which I realised in the exam hall (it was too late by then, but oh well). The rest after prelims, if you are more or less sure of clearing, SR comes out with a crash course (which has its own merits and de-merits) which will hep you cover lost ground.

I’m not sure of Chaubey sir’s classes since I haven’t attended them, so I cannot comment on their quality

not an issue. you're right joining classes might overwhelm me. i'll try reading material again and again and focus on understanding theories properly. but in mam's postal notes sometimes i find some points are missing and some disconnect is there. so what should be done for that ? any reference book or anything else. which you might've referred to? thank you :)

I’ve never been one to entirely depend on ma’am’s notes, as someone with a liberal arts bg that sounds kinda blasphemous to me (also many concepts weren’t entirely new to me). So I did refer to books and am making/updating my notes from those sources. But tbh I wouldn’t recommend that to you right now given that you need to understand the concepts properly right now. As@whatonly mentioned in the PSIR thread, focus on understanding the concepts by reading them 2-3 times (it does take a while to get the hang of them, but you’ll eventually get it). As for the stuff that you feel is missing I’m sure it wouldn’t be for theory because her notes are quite comprehensive for the theory portion. For the dynamic portion you can add stuff from newspaper editorials and magazines. But if you do really want to read a book I would recommend OP Gauba for theory. 

okay thank you so much for your suggestions. i'll keep everything you said in mind while preparing.

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dalphasaid

I know this might not be correct thread to post this but, not getting reply on relevant thread. So please if anyone can help me regarding this ? if you people can't reply here then please pm me. But i'm really stressed about this.

Need some help regarding psir preparation. I have read basic material once but facing difficulties in grasping everything properly. going to write exam in 2021. i was thinking of joining any classroom course. so can anyone suggest what to do ? because shubhra mam's course will run for 6 months starting this july so i don't think that's a viable option. should i join some other classroom course ? also i found some audios of mam's 2018 batch on telegram so would those be reliable ? another option i have heard of is chaubey sir and some other free youtube series. so please anyone who has taken any classroom course before please help me out. 

Thank You

Hi dost, if you have her notes, classroom lectures are not needed because dictation is more, explanation is less.

I have personally learned a lot from her, and despite all odds of dictation, there is no better teacher than her in UPSC field. Infact, she makes learning so easy and wonderful.

But when it comes to scoring in Mains, which is generally the reason we choose her, there I would advise my own younger self not to join it. The reason is monopolisation of PSIR and a fear is created no SR means no PSIR.

The institute indeed tells us lot many value additions, but thing is everybody writes it, so our 2x efforts in remembering it, recollecting it and writing it are reduced to 1x because there is nothing special and different that we are writing. Everyone is writing it. And in any case PSIR candidates would be there in single digit ranks, and credit of enrollment would be taken gracefully.

So, I would advise my own younger self to do things differently. Like Sunny bhai here was earlier telling how his different approach has worked for him. Though in 100 words, his strategy of 2-3 years can not be described, but the fact that he has emphasised more on revision, lesser on answer writing holds good grounds for clearing mains. Revision is not emphasised in UPSC coaching industry because it is atma nirbhar and not money fetching. 

Now coming back to concern of PSIR, go for conceptual clarity, go for some other notes may be, PSIR is such a wonderful subject where even with 10% knowledge, you can write 90%. But dont succumb to popular fears of FOMO.

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dalphasaid

I know this might not be correct thread to post this but, not getting reply on relevant thread. So please if anyone can help me regarding this ? if you people can't reply here then please pm me. But i'm really stressed about this.

Need some help regarding psir preparation. I have read basic material once but facing difficulties in grasping everything properly. going to write exam in 2021. i was thinking of joining any classroom course. so can anyone suggest what to do ? because shubhra mam's course will run for 6 months starting this july so i don't think that's a viable option. should i join some other classroom course ? also i found some audios of mam's 2018 batch on telegram so would those be reliable ? another option i have heard of is chaubey sir and some other free youtube series. so please anyone who has taken any classroom course before please help me out. 

Thank You

Just one thing I would like to point out. I joined Shubhra Ranjan PSIR course this year. It began in July and ended in April. She took about 25 lectures only on Plato. 

Ye toh achchi baat hai ki number is reduced to 25 now : )

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@AzadHindFauz   @whatonly @nerdfighter @Villanelle and all users active on this thread 


Is it the right time to have the mains 2021 thread like you all had last year?  There is really some very useful resources on that thread. Maybe post prelims would be the right time as everyone would be deep in mains prep. If not now, can someone initiate the same post prelims as I'm still a noob on forum to start something like this. 

https://forumias.com/post/detail/Mains-2020-Doubt-and-strategy-discussion-thread-1601963441?page=1 




That thread of mains 2020 was only started after prelims by AHF... I’m actually really amazed by how much everyone is focusing on mains in the postponement this year! It did not even occur to me last year :p Or maybe people were discussing it last year too, I wasn’t on forum then.

I don’t think there’s a right or wrong time for a thread, but since most people seem to be deciding to focus on optional for now, you may not get much traction :)


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dalphasaid

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not an issue. you're right joining classes might overwhelm me. i'll try reading material again and again and focus on understanding theories properly. but in mam's postal notes sometimes i find some points are missing and some disconnect is there. so what should be done for that ? any reference book or anything else. which you might've referred to? thank you :)

Hi dost, I am sure there is no disconnect. 

I think it is the beauty of political science that makes one believe so. 

Like Socialists and Liberals both see liberty from different lenses, and you should justify both from respective ones : )

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@DeekshitaP liberal arts graduates assemble T.T


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Turns out it is easier sharing links rather than uploading files here. 
This is working, copy paste this link. Hope it helps. Thanks. Goodnight .

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Wisdom must hear it

Jammu,
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Yes. In fact I’m something of a philosopher myself :P 

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@sjerngal now it is working . Thanks


sjerngal,
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Yes. In fact I’m something of a philosopher myself :P 

I see the meme even when you haven’t posted the meme :p you’ve achieved some kind of milestone in the meemer journey for sure 

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Turns out it is easier sharing links rather than uploading files here. 
This is working, copy paste this link. Hope it helps. Thanks. Goodnight .

Thanks for taking all this time and effort :)

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Jammusaid

dalphasaid

I know this might not be correct thread to post this but, not getting reply on relevant thread. So please if anyone can help me regarding this ? if you people can't reply here then please pm me. But i'm really stressed about this.

Need some help regarding psir preparation. I have read basic material once but facing difficulties in grasping everything properly. going to write exam in 2021. i was thinking of joining any classroom course. so can anyone suggest what to do ? because shubhra mam's course will run for 6 months starting this july so i don't think that's a viable option. should i join some other classroom course ? also i found some audios of mam's 2018 batch on telegram so would those be reliable ? another option i have heard of is chaubey sir and some other free youtube series. so please anyone who has taken any classroom course before please help me out. 

Thank You

Hi dost, if you have her notes, classroom lectures are not needed because dictation is more, explanation is less.

I have personally learned a lot from her, and despite all odds of dictation, there is no better teacher than her in UPSC field. Infact, she makes learning so easy and wonderful.

But when it comes to scoring in Mains, which is generally the reason we choose her, there I would advise my own younger self not to join it. The reason is monopolisation of PSIR and a fear is created no SR means no PSIR.

The institute indeed tells us lot many value additions, but thing is everybody writes it, so our 2x efforts in remembering it, recollecting it and writing it are reduced to 1x because there is nothing special and different that we are writing. Everyone is writing it. And in any case PSIR candidates would be there in single digit ranks, and credit of enrollment would be taken gracefully.

So, I would advise my own younger self to do things differently. Like Sunny bhai here was earlier telling how his different approach has worked for him. Though in 100 words, his strategy of 2-3 years can not be described, but the fact that he has emphasised more on revision, lesser on answer writing holds good grounds for clearing mains. Revision is not emphasised in UPSC coaching industry because it is atma nirbhar and not money fetching. 

Now coming back to concern of PSIR, go for conceptual clarity, go for some other notes may be, PSIR is such a wonderful subject where even with 10% knowledge, you can write 90%. But dont succumb to popular fears of FOMO.

yes you are absolutely right, i'll focus more on conceptual clarity and revision. thank you :)

Jammu,
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I understand the inevitable need to mug up stuff for this exam but I am just too lazy to do Anki/active recall/flash card stuff and spend hours staring at screens (as if I don’t do that already, but that’s not the point)…

Summarising and re-reading wale log bhi exam nikalte honge. We want representation :P

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