Civil Services Mains 2020 Results: In or Out ? Way ahead, gratitude and Pain
The Civils Mains result has been declared. This thread is for sharing your grief , joy , mixed feelings - absolutely anything and everything.
Apollo11,
Thanks for the wishes, kind people! Going to have some sleep now and hopefully see you all on Monday with some good news!Hey, how was the exam?
Buggered. They changed up the pattern and made it almost UPSC-esque. Borderline case, hopefully will make it. At least Forest service cutoff looks almost assured though, so not all hope is lost. Fingers crossed 🤞🏼
An Indian woman winning a lone Olympics medal (as of now), and any hope for India to further increase medal tally comes almost all from women too (PV Sindhu, Mary Kom, Deepika Kumari), and this is when they face discrimination, stereotypes and responsibilty to run the home, talk about Nari Shakti. Mind you, 2 medals that we won in Rio Olympics was both won by women too. Hats off. They are stronger than we think.
You are missing more - Lovlina Borgohain in boxing has entered quaterfinals -a promising one.
Vinesh phogat as well.
Manika Batra, Manu Bhakar and all the other women were all good.
But after seeing Olympics I cam to realise one of the prime reasons why we are not doing great is the bureaucractic culture in sports as well. I mean for any country to perform good at sports we must give importance to the player and their needs. I have seen so many recent reports where players have criticised the management of either not granting permission to a physio, or coach of a player(Manika Batra played w/o a coach) or some personal stuff b/w coaches and players. This all has a negative impact on the player. We really need to chnage this structure if we want to make gains at the olympics
While I do agree that a lot needs to be changed, we also need to accept that a lot of changes have been made. Their impact is showing, our athletes are now competing in sports where we've had negligible presence (fencing, sailing). This is because of private sector involvement and government facilitation of athletes training abroad. I want to mention about more academies opening up within the country but I am circumspect about how much funding they are getting or if they have been helpful so let us ignore that.
Also, yes some of our top sportspersons have not been able to do well but we need to realise that the kind of talent pool we have created will surely pay dividends sooner rather than later. Both, Mr Bindra and Mr Gagan Narang won medals in their third olympic games. Shooting contingent has so many match winners, this was not just because they were super talented but also because of efforts of new support structures like Abhinav Bindra foundation!
Another thing that I felt was that our athletes are put under too much pressure and media focus. Other countries have 100+ prospective medal winners and we have 20+, however our population is much more and media focus is at least as much if not more (only for Olympics, CWG). Take the Manu Bhaker case as an example. This is only an empirical claim but I wish there was a way out.
While I do agree that a lot needs to be changed, we also need to accept that a lot of changes have been made. Their impact is showing, our athletes are now competing in sports where we've had negligible presence (fencing, sailing). This is because of private sector involvement and government facilitation of athletes training abroad. I want to mention about more academies opening up within the country but I am circumspect about how much funding they are getting or if they have been helpful so let us ignore that.
Also, yes some of our top sportspersons have not been able to do well but we need to realise that the kind of talent pool we have created will surely pay dividends sooner rather than later. Both, Mr Bindra and Mr Gagan Narang won medals in their third olympic games. Shooting contingent has so many match winners, this was not just because they were super talented but also because of efforts of new support structures like Abhinav Bindra foundation!
Another thing that I felt was that our athletes are put under too much pressure and media focus. Other countries have 100+ prospective medal winners and we have 20+, however our population is much more and media focus is at least as much if not more (only for Olympics, CWG). Take the Manu Bhaker case as an example. This is only an empirical claim but I wish there was a way out.
So true. I truly felt Manu Bhakar succumbed to the pressure of playing at olympics. She and her rifles partner Saurabh Chaudhery have won most of the major mixed titles since 2019 and couldn't perform better here.
Not at all decrying the efforts that we are doing but we should never be content and always thrive for more. And I believe some changes along with what all we did will actually give us desired results.
I saw Shooting federation to take some action against Jaspal Rana former coach of Manu Bhakar or Athelete federation saying they will take actions against two players who are at the olympics if they fail to win medals - onyl because they were falling short of some fitness trials but they were given chance. If they so much wanted to adhere to the standards they must have not send, but if they have send they should not threaten players like this.
THE_MECHANIC,While I do agree that a lot needs to be changed, we also need to accept that a lot of changes have been made. Their impact is showing, our athletes are now competing in sports where we've had negligible presence (fencing, sailing). This is because of private sector involvement and government facilitation of athletes training abroad. I want to mention about more academies opening up within the country but I am circumspect about how much funding they are getting or if they have been helpful so let us ignore that.
Also, yes some of our top sportspersons have not been able to do well but we need to realise that the kind of talent pool we have created will surely pay dividends sooner rather than later. Both, Mr Bindra and Mr Gagan Narang won medals in their third olympic games. Shooting contingent has so many match winners, this was not just because they were super talented but also because of efforts of new support structures like Abhinav Bindra foundation!
Another thing that I felt was that our athletes are put under too much pressure and media focus. Other countries have 100+ prospective medal winners and we have 20+, however our population is much more and media focus is at least as much if not more (only for Olympics, CWG). Take the Manu Bhaker case as an example. This is only an empirical claim but I wish there was a way out.
So true. I truly felt Manu Bhakar succumbed to the pressure of playing at olympics. She and her rifles partner Saurabh Chaudhery have won most of the major mixed titles since 2019 and couldn't perform better here.
Not at all decrying the efforts that we are doing but we should never be content and always thrive for more. And I believe some changes along with what all we did will actually give us desired results.
I saw Shooting federation to take some action against Jaspal Rana former coach of Manu Bhakar or Athelete federation saying they will take actions against two players who are at the olympics if they fail to win medals - onyl because they were falling short of some fitness trials but they were given chance. If they so much wanted to adhere to the standards they must have not send, but if they have send they should not threaten players like this.
Yes, statistically we were set to win a lot in shooting. Surely there are other factors, with pressure being one of the strongest. But they have achieved a lot already, I am sure they will come back stronger!
I do agree that we need to strive to improve everyday. Just that a little bit of encouragement would do a world of good to athletes who haven't performed upto their potential. Can't imagine how tough it must be for them.
Again, I'm in total agreement. I think the root cause is the politicisation of these sports bodies. We don't have able administrators who are willing to give all that they have. This leads to a situation where no one wants to take any accountability and the players are the easiest targets. I do not know of the specifics of this case or the recent Manika Batra controversy but surely we need to give more respect and freedom to our athletes. I do believe that it is tougher to be high handed with the dawn of the social media age, hope better sense prevails within the Shooting Federation.
sjerngal,
Have u guys tried Unacademy combat quiz? What’s ur review?
Level of questions asked is good. Moreover its free as well and is just 1 hour long, so won't consume much time.
However, I do feel that it has become more like fastest finger first where each que is allotted 30-45 seconds to answer., and personally for me, I often used to click on the wrong option(even while I knew the correct answer) in an attempt to finish it within the stipulated time.
But I guess this is the whole point of the Combat quiz- that is to gamify the preparation and all..
You can give it for your own practice, but don't take the rank and the scores too seriously. UPSC gives us enough time to think and answer.
EiChan,
PS: There is one more event left for Manu Bhaker tomorrow. Lets hope she does well
@ashish854 From 13 sports in 2012 to 18, 83 participants in 2012 to 120 now. I’ll consider these as positive changes. Medals would eventually follow but I’m happy to see that participation and facilities are improving. But like always, people will see the stats they want to see.
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necromancer,
2012, 2016 or 2020 - shooting has been one of the best medal prospects at Olympics along with wrestling and boxing, (archery too). So the disappointment from some fans is right, we criticize cricketers as well. The thing isn't about loosing, it is about performing according to potential. While Sourabh Choudhary was nearly at his best apart from some 4-5 shots in single event final. Other weren't near their average score in qualification rounds. atleast reaching finals was expected from most. Archery too, performance in qualification rounds was reason for failures (facing South Koreas before semis). Tough for Deepika kumari too.
May be there is chance of getting around 5-8 medals, but the overall the performance is bit disappointing. So the double digit tally chances for this one is bleak, will again hope in Paris.
Just hoping for atleast one GOLD and 6+(total), so it can be best Olympics for India. Also one surprise medal, if in track and field, will heal wounds of shooting.
EiChan,
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