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Civil Services Mains 2020 Results: In or Out ? Way ahead, gratitude and Pain

The Civils Mains result has been declared. This thread is for sharing your grief , joy , mixed feelings - absolutely anything and everything.



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Highly unlikely.

Why am I saying this? Cuz

1) they don't fuc*ing care, in the first place, about you, your safety or well being. Look at  their or Government's (they are merely an extension of it not some independent body for God's sake!) actions or decisions of the past to corroborate this fact.

2) If they had cared, they would have atleast asked for a negative RTPCR report last year. Or conducted Antigen tests at centres and put aside positive aspirants in a different room to write their exams. Or just anything of that sort.

3) We need more than an year to vaccinate our population at current rates of vaccination.
Now, if they desire that 6 lakh Collector aspirants be vaccinated instead of 6 lakh more vulnerable old aged senior citizens just because their hallow calendar be not disturbed , well then I would have nothing but more respect and reverence for the Lords sitting at the Dholpur House 🙏🏻


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Haha, it's not that. It's just a reflection on horrible state of things.

Sleep? I can't when I see your dear ones dying but that not getting included even in the statistics.

If you can after that, lemme know in the DM!


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I guess, I'm not.

As far as my memory serves me right, they had this urgency to finish the 2019 cycle (by asking the left interviewees to come in dead middle of the July risking their lives and lives of the old people in their houses) as well as to kickstart the 2020 cycle.


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Haha, it's not that. It's just a reflection on horrible state of things.

Sleep? I can't when I see your dear ones dying but that not getting included even in the statistics.

If you can after that, lemme know in the DM!


Ok ,then continue. Perhaps,it will make you feel better.

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Haha, it's not that. It's just a reflection on horrible state of things.

Sleep? I can't when I see your dear ones dying but that not getting included even in the statistics.

If you can after that, lemme know in the DM!


Ok ,then continue. Perhaps,it will make you feel better.

Yup, it's cathartic. 


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@mehuifs absolutely


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@Johnny_Distracted this is also correct


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Somehow I feel few of your points are true. 
But somewhere I feel, it might be postponed, perhaps UPSC may come up with a condition that one's appearing should be compulsorily vaccinated. Although vaccination drive has started, it might take 3-4 months minimum to cover 25-30 percent of population. 
It's not correct to compare situation of Uk or Us with ours. Hamare yaha atrangi jeev hai.


This won’t be possible. As the ones infected right now would have to wait weeks before they’re deemed fit for vaccination. At least the govt document said to wait 4-8 weeks from the time symptoms subside. 

Plus, the gap b/w two doses is anywhere from 28 days for Covaxin to 4-8 weeks for Covishield. And only after 14 days from the 2nd dose, do we have a sort of immunity. 

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I somehow strongly feel that UPSC is not going to postpone if the epistemological model of cases getting to their peak by May (be it middle or end) stands true. And even if it does, delay would not be of more than a few weeks.


Reasons:

1. Oxygen shortage is a matter of just a  week or two to get sorted- both due to internal ramped up production and establishment of supply chain and foreign aids. Add to that all sorts of aids coming up from over 2-dozen countries.

2. Vaccination- is the key differentiator this time than last year cuz vaccines are working and is a formidable option this year.

3. Last year's experience and chutzpah - if UPSC could conduct the exam last year immediately after the peak, they have no incentive to postpone it this year. Do any of you remember what shady and outright false statements were given by UPSC in the SC last year a day before Prelims- just because they didn't want to disturb the overall calendar and this goddamn exam- and still have hope that they care for you, of your well being or your rights?


4. We being a nation of dead morality and UPSC being nothing but a reflection of the society- Last year, so many aspirants suffered unimaginable hardships just in order to reach their centres. Many died due to infections. Was there any empathy for any of them? Or accountability for the gross violation of their fundamental rights? Is there any accountability of any body/Govt for the thousands people today dying due to holding of elections/rallies or massive religious congregation? Do you think it ever will be? There's no value of human life in our underdeveloped country aspiring foolishly to be a world beater. 



Now on, I don't have mere goal to crack this exam just to serve the nation (hardly the miniscule good souls get to actually serve the nation but only the political masters and the sold-out institutions; and if anyone dares to do sth extraordinary out of serving spree, he's shunted out or suspended) but also, very importantly, to live a safer and a more secure life cuz in this nation of fuckin unequals, your position might decide whether your mother gets a bed in hospital or expires on the road gasping for oxygen by the time the next calamity strikes- becoming just another statistic (lucky for you if Govt counts it in!) or a mere spectacle for others.


So, the highly revered commission will have no hesitation to conduct the exam if the public transport is running everywhere a week before the exam date- yes that would be the only criteria, even if you have to parade through a line of burning pyres on pavements on the way to your respective exam centres.



With all due respect, If this is your idea ofgetting psychological relief, Somehow i find this problematic.Bhadaas nikaalo. But don't go to such extremes. Generalize what you want to say. Because when people read stuff,they are simultaneously forming images in their head.And my heart skipped a beat, when you forced me to form an image of something that I dread.

No hard feelings. You were emotional. It was an outburst. Just a general advice. Even as an aspirant when you have to convince someone with your arguments (including the examiner who will check your paper in future), you will have to focus on how you present them. 
Peace.

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The silence on the thread is eerie!

"May 1st se padhunga. Forum nahi dekhunga" -clean slate/ fresh start/ false promises to self. A common syndrome among UPSC aspirants :P

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The silence on the thread is eerie!

"May 1st se padhunga. Forum nahi dekhunga" -clean slate/ fresh start/ false promises to self. A common syndrome among UPSC aspirants :P

Labour day se Labour karna chalu 😉

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Seeing some activity on this thread does give some sense of relief. 
AJ_,thepolicydreamer
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@RonWeasley I could hear A K Hangal's voice (the Sholay reference) :p 


RonWeasley,
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The silence on the thread is eerie!

"May 1st se padhunga. Forum nahi dekhunga" -clean slate/ fresh start/ false promises to self. A common syndrome among UPSC aspirants :P

It happens :P

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I somehow strongly feel that UPSC is not going to postpone if the epistemological model of cases getting to their peak by May (be it middle or end) stands true. And even if it does, delay would not be of more than a few weeks.


Reasons:

1. Oxygen shortage is a matter of just a  week or two to get sorted- both due to internal ramped up production and establishment of supply chain and foreign aids. Add to that all sorts of aids coming up from over 2-dozen countries.

2. Vaccination- is the key differentiator this time than last year cuz vaccines are working and is a formidable option this year.

3. Last year's experience and chutzpah - if UPSC could conduct the exam last year immediately after the peak, they have no incentive to postpone it this year. Do any of you remember what shady and outright false statements were given by UPSC in the SC last year a day before Prelims- just because they didn't want to disturb the overall calendar and this goddamn exam- and still have hope that they care for you, of your well being or your rights?


4. We being a nation of dead morality and UPSC being nothing but a reflection of the society- Last year, so many aspirants suffered unimaginable hardships just in order to reach their centres. Many died due to infections. Was there any empathy for any of them? Or accountability for the gross violation of their fundamental rights? Is there any accountability of any body/Govt for the thousands people today dying due to holding of elections/rallies or massive religious congregation? Do you think it ever will be? There's no value of human life in our underdeveloped country aspiring foolishly to be a world beater. 



Now on, I don't have mere goal to crack this exam just to serve the nation (hardly the miniscule good souls get to actually serve the nation but only the political masters and the sold-out institutions; and if anyone dares to do sth extraordinary out of serving spree, he's shunted out or suspended) but also, very importantly, to live a safer and a more secure life cuz in this nation of fuckin unequals, your position might decide whether your mother gets a bed in hospital or expires on the road gasping for oxygen by the time the next calamity strikes- becoming just another statistic (lucky for you if Govt counts it in!) or a mere spectacle for others.


So, the highly revered commission will have no hesitation to conduct the exam if the public transport is running everywhere a week before the exam date- yes that would be the only criteria, even if you have to parade through a line of burning pyres on pavements on the way to your respective exam centres.

To my mind this post doesn't reflect only a sense of frustration as many here have made it out to be; instead has a tinge of empathy and compassion as well. The biggest challenge with Indian bureaucracy is an empathetic and compassionate approach. Rules and protocols should never take precedence over human connections. Covid times has changed things forever and when we pass through this storm, the two choices available to us would be, either to ignore and start afresh as if nothing ever happened or change this nation and its system forever. The former choice is easy. The latter is worthy. And you can only do the latter if you feel for your fellow beings. That's empathy. Running in a rat race doesn't always help. With so much mayhem  happening around, one really needs a thick teflon coating to not get affected mentally. And to my mind, you can only change things if you feel that something is wrong. You accept that something is wrong. In order to help others, you gotta help yourself first. That's what this damned virus taught us. So this post with all its hard hitting words needs to be taken in the right spirit. Our privilege should never be a source of propagating 'too much' positivity and 'all is well' syndrome which in these times is quite toxic! 


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I somehow strongly feel that UPSC is not going to postpone if the epistemological model of cases getting to their peak by May (be it middle or end) stands true. And even if it does, delay would not be of more than a few weeks.


Reasons:

1. Oxygen shortage is a matter of just a  week or two to get sorted- both due to internal ramped up production and establishment of supply chain and foreign aids. Add to that all sorts of aids coming up from over 2-dozen countries.

2. Vaccination- is the key differentiator this time than last year cuz vaccines are working and is a formidable option this year.

3. Last year's experience and chutzpah - if UPSC could conduct the exam last year immediately after the peak, they have no incentive to postpone it this year. Do any of you remember what shady and outright false statements were given by UPSC in the SC last year a day before Prelims- just because they didn't want to disturb the overall calendar and this goddamn exam- and still have hope that they care for you, of your well being or your rights?


4. We being a nation of dead morality and UPSC being nothing but a reflection of the society- Last year, so many aspirants suffered unimaginable hardships just in order to reach their centres. Many died due to infections. Was there any empathy for any of them? Or accountability for the gross violation of their fundamental rights? Is there any accountability of any body/Govt for the thousands people today dying due to holding of elections/rallies or massive religious congregation? Do you think it ever will be? There's no value of human life in our underdeveloped country aspiring foolishly to be a world beater. 



Now on, I don't have mere goal to crack this exam just to serve the nation (hardly the miniscule good souls get to actually serve the nation but only the political masters and the sold-out institutions; and if anyone dares to do sth extraordinary out of serving spree, he's shunted out or suspended) but also, very importantly, to live a safer and a more secure life cuz in this nation of fuckin unequals, your position might decide whether your mother gets a bed in hospital or expires on the road gasping for oxygen by the time the next calamity strikes- becoming just another statistic (lucky for you if Govt counts it in!) or a mere spectacle for others.


So, the highly revered commission will have no hesitation to conduct the exam if the public transport is running everywhere a week before the exam date- yes that would be the only criteria, even if you have to parade through a line of burning pyres on pavements on the way to your respective exam centres.

Positive approach rakh bhai, watch 3rd episode of tvf aspirants

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@Villanelle yes true, missed this.


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All our problems start and end with population. We are 17% of the global population living in less than 2.5% of the land area. Not even the best governments and bureaucracies of the world can save this country(or such similarly configured ones) when such a pandemic happens. Our systems were inadequate even before COVID-19 this just made it collapse fully. No aspirant should wreck their heads over a simple supply demand issue be it jobs(including the less than 0.1% success rate of UPSC), healthcare, education or infra in general, our population is the number 1 problem-always was and will remain till we stop breeding like rabbits(even though TFR is down still another generation will suffer till we peak). So stop worrying, take care of your and your families well being by following protocols and do not panic by watching media/social media 24*7. This was bound to happen and god forbid a major disaster like a mega quake(predicted this century in north india) happens will repeat because of POPULATION. TC everyone and ATB!
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With all due respect, If this is your idea ofgetting psychological relief, Somehow i find this problematic.Bhadaas nikaalo. But don't go to such extremes. Generalize what you want to say. Because when people read stuff,they are simultaneously forming images in their head.And my heart skipped a beat, when you forced me to form an image of something that I dread.

No hard feelings. You were emotional. It was an outburst. Just a general advice. Even as an aspirant when you have to convince someone with your arguments (including the examiner who will check your paper in future), you will have to focus on how you present them. 
Peace.

Our worst fears were yesterday's reality for some.

Let's acknowledge our privilege and cease to compare all qualities to that of a desired aspirant at this ungodly hour. 

Let's just listen.

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