Civil Services Mains 2020 Results: In or Out ? Way ahead, gratitude and Pain
The Civils Mains result has been declared. This thread is for sharing your grief , joy , mixed feelings - absolutely anything and everything.
About test series, I always have genuine doubts.
As I flunked prelims 2020, got the evaluator's job at one of the reputed coaching. Issues with test series are first they have standard marks for answer like no to 6+ for 10 marker and no 8+ to 15 marker. Also as there were two stages for evaluation (atleast where I worked), I was the first one to evaluate and there was another person to verify some things, so no way I could have given marks as I wanted. And the recency bias of one copy changes the perspective about other's answer drastically.
for an avg answer I would give 3.5/4 then after going through 3-4 copies I usually can't decide what to be considered as avg answer. Why to give 3.5 not 4 and why not 4.5 and so on. in this process some great answer gets just above avg marks and some below avg gets undeserving marks. It is basically a flawedexercise. (My feelings were same when I used to give Vision tests for 2019 mains, where they would give 3 marks for some random last minute answer and for a good answer by any means just 3.5 )
Don't know how it works for others but atleast these are my experiences.
Also if in UPSC we see marks like 140+ it means good answers can be rewarded like 8/10 or 12/15.
But one thing is for sure standout copies can't be ignored, it is hard to give any suggestions to them. There were some aspirants I knew would clear mains and most of them did (among the copies I evaluated)
Also the wholesomeness of answer can be sensed when one finishes the conclusion. The only issue remains in some questions where either miss some part of the answer or fail to understand the question properly.
PS: Baaki to UPSC jaaney
Hmm.
So those people who cleared mains(among the best copies you checked) how many answers they answered satisfactorily in a test.10-12, 14 or 16 answers?This is because I see on mrunal people always telling they did 10-12 answers satisfactorily and still they manage to score in 420-450 range in gs.
Thanks for the insight.
for those asking for telegram group, it is the same mains result countdown group hosted by kaptaan and yoyo now renamed as pre support group. check the pinned messages for the info posted. also scroll all the way up to find link to intv support group.
heres the link: https://t.me/joinchat/XuVuBrBE2x01MWM9
Yikes! Made the mistake of going through this group. Safe to say won't be going back anytime soon. And these are civil service aspirants no less. Kudos to Forum community members for keeping this space sane with the madness that's unraveling all around us.
About test series, I always have genuine doubts.
As I flunked prelims 2020, got the evaluator's job at one of the reputed coaching. Issues with test series are first they have standard marks for answer like no to 6+ for 10 marker and no 8+ to 15 marker. Also as there were two stages for evaluation (atleast where I worked), I was the first one to evaluate and there was another person to verify some things, so no way I could have given marks as I wanted. And the recency bias of one copy changes the perspective about other's answer drastically.
for an avg answer I would give 3.5/4 then after going through 3-4 copies I usually can't decide what to be considered as avg answer. Why to give 3.5 not 4 and why not 4.5 and so on. in this process some great answer gets just above avg marks and some below avg gets undeserving marks. It is basically a flawedexercise. (My feelings were same when I used to give Vision tests for 2019 mains, where they would give 3 marks for some random last minute answer and for a good answer by any means just 3.5 )
Don't know how it works for others but atleast these are my experiences.
Also if in UPSC we see marks like 140+ it means good answers can be rewarded like 8/10 or 12/15.
But one thing is for sure standout copies can't be ignored, it is hard to give any suggestions to them. There were some aspirants I knew would clear mains and most of them did (among the copies I evaluated)
Also the wholesomeness of answer can be sensed when one finishes the conclusion. The only issue remains in some questions where either miss some part of the answer or fail to understand the question properly.
PS: Baaki to UPSC jaaney
Hmm.
So those people who cleared mains(among the best copies you checked) how many answers they answered satisfactorily in a test.10-12, 14 or 16 answers?This is because I see on mrunal people always telling they did 10-12 answers satisfactorily and still they manage to score in 420-450 range in gs.
Thanks for the insight.
In general - 10-12 top tier answers, 4-5 above avg, rest either avg or left alone. Because the tests I evaluated had questions like if you know you know type (mostly). UPSC questions are different (+ I had feeling that whatever they used to write and with handwritingmaintenance throughout paper was not feasible in 3 hours, I can be wrong about this)
But as I don't know their performance and marks in real exam, can't comment much.
Only way to know would be - if some of them feature in top ranks and I get to know their marks in exam.
Inselberg,
Came across something unexpectedly beautiful while trying to get back to prep. Thought I’d share here.
Had read about Henry Vivian Derozio (1809-31) in Spectrum of course, but found some moving passages about him today. He became a teacher at hardly twenty in 1828 at what was then Hindu College (today’s Presidency University, Kolkata - what is likely the oldest college in India). He also set up a group for students after college hours to meet and discuss ideas they couldn’t within the curriculum. The author of the book I’m reading (The Microphone Men by Priyadarshi Dutta) describes this exercise as one of the first in India in modern debate and freethinking.
Derozio wrote this poem about the experience.
Sonnet to the Pupils of the Hindu College
Expanding like petals of young flowers
I watch the gentle opening of your minds.
And the sweet loosening of the spell that binds,
Your intellectual energies and powers,
That stretch (like young birds in soft summer hours)
Their wings, to try their strength,
O, how the winds
Of circumstances and freshening April showers
Of early knowledge and unnumbered kinds
Of new perceptions shed their influence;
And how you worship truth's omnipotence.
What joyance rains upon me, when l see
Fame in the mirror of futurity,
Weaving the chaplets you have yet to gain,
Ah then, l feel I have not lived in vain.
In these days when any kind of studying is feeling like a burden and the joy of learning is so hard to reach, it felt great to be reminded of the sheer beauty of these pursuits. In the early days of prep I did indeed feel like my mind was expanding “like petals of young flowers”. One day, some day, it will feel joyful again. Whether or not we have fame in the “mirror of futurity”, I feel we have something equally good. :)
Just to add in the ongoing thread :
These times, to my mind, warrant mental health attention as well. If you are calm mentally, you can give 5-6 hours a day, which is kind of fine given the trying times. And tbh what I found best was to keep things simple. It helped me calm down and have a control on my anxiety. Helped me focus better. So a simpler approach of studying a part of syllabus and doing mocks is the best in present situation without thinking much about the D-Day and it's consequences. Have been trying to give pep talks to myself pretty regularly now. Going back to school sorts. However, found tad bit difficult to multi task viz a viz mains till they officially announce the new date (if they do).
Itna pitt syaapa isn't good anyway. We tend to make things complicated. This time try and be a bit simple. :p
I'm sure many of you have already read this since it's in The Hindu, but I wanted to post this anyway. I believe a large majority of us here, if not all of us, are aiming to clear this exam to have such opportunities to help people in any way we can. So just remind yourself of the incredible change you could potentially make if you clear this exam whenever you are feeling demotivated or anxious or any sort of negative emotions.
I'm sure many of you have already read this since it's in The Hindu, but I wanted to post this anyway. I believe a large majority of us here, if not all of us, are aiming to clear this exam to have such opportunities to help people in any way we can. So just remind yourself of the incredible change you could potentially make if you clear this exam whenever you are feeling demotivated or anxious or any sort of negative emotions.
What a charming smile she has! :)
peterparker,I'm sure many of you have already read this since it's in The Hindu, but I wanted to post this anyway. I believe a large majority of us here, if not all of us, are aiming to clear this exam to have such opportunities to help people in any way we can. So just remind yourself of the incredible change you could potentially make if you clear this exam whenever you are feeling demotivated or anxious or any sort of negative emotions.
What a charming smile she has! :)
The article was more about charming work :)
Men will be Men :P
ArchAngel96,
Karmayogi IAS test8.pdfDoes anyone know any telegram group which regularly shares newspaper pdf of both Hindu and IE?
Plz share the link
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