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Official : Law Optional Discussion Group - Syllabus, Queries, How To and Previous Year Papers

Hi! Is anyone here with law optional?

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@Joeyisthebest  thank you for replying.
Can name the recommended books their publisher or authors.
I went online and got mixed up with judicial exams and general law books.
Thanks again


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@Coolcat95 

@Aks1992 

I did my demo with upsclawoptional.in and I agree with you guys.

Just one thing did you found any difference in 150 days and 300 days plans except for number of tests.

My target is 2021 but I want to get over with classes and all by December.

What do you guys think? Longer the better or short & sweet for preparing law


Viraj1692,
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go for the comprehensive course and aftr enrolment tell them that you want to finish by December. They ll make ur planner accordingly. Only thing is you ll have to write the tests in short intervals. U can write the sectional tests as of now till december and leave the full length tests, which u can write after prelims 2021. I have also preferred something like this.  

Viraj1692,
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Any toppers with Law Optional?

At least 12 individuals in the final result of CSE 2019 have Law as their optional subject. 

Viraj1692,
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HI FRIENDS,

I AM GIVING ATTEMPT IN 2021..I HAVE TAKEN GEOGRAPHY AS OPTIONAL,COMPLETED ABOUT 30%SYLLABUS BUT I AM  NOT CONFIDENT ENOUGH WITH IT.

I AM AN ENGINEER AND DONOT HAVE ANY BACKGROUND IN LAW.I WAS THINKING OF OPTING FOR LAW OPTIONAL. CAN YOU GUYS TELL ME WHAT SHOULD BE MY APPROACH,I HAVE GONE THROUGH THE SYLLABUS AND PREVIOUS PAPERS.


ANYONE HAS JOINED COACHING? PLEASE TELL IS COACHING NECCESARY AND WHICH TO JOIN

ALSO TELL ABOUT NOTES WHICH INSTITUTE IS BEST.


I WANT TO COMPLETE OPTIONAL BEFORE FEB2021.


PLEASE HELP

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Any comments on Nirvana IAS? Material quality and coverage. Last i saw their material, i thought it was below average. However, the institute has consistently churned out rankers from law optional. 

The materials are photocopy of class notes (handwriten) of a student. Though that is concise, you can supplement with materials of ambition and AK Jain.

However, if anyone is planning to join classes over there- Please reconsider.

Its a waste of your time and money. 

assiduous,Homo Neanderthalensis
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Based on my personal experience, please don't join Defacto Law. It is a total waste of money. This review on Quora is very relatable - https://www.quora.com/unanswered/How-is-Defacto-Law-Aditya-Tiwari-for-preparing-for-the-law-optional-in-CSE?ch=10&share=072c4e0e&srid=EmMM6

Also, don't takevideo lectures of lawxpertmv classes. Their lectures are pure imitation of their notes. Though you can consider their notes and test series. 

Rest I believe, if you are a law graduate, then self-study + any exclusive test series of law optional (not the ones which provide both for judiciary and UPSC), would be enough to sail through.


Viraj1692,Rexx
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As of now, having considered all options I found the notes and test series evaluation of upsclawoptional. in to be the best. No comparison possible. 
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Upsclawoptional.in notes are very average, nothing extraordinary. You cannot substitute them for your books. Dukkis are the bare minimum you need to read, and there is no getting around that.

Some of their notes are extremely outdated. For example, Plea Bargaining notes do not mention the CrPC. Evaluation is okay, quite detailed. However, more emphasis is given on presentation rather than content. I do not get the feeling that the evaluators are updated on recent developments. Quite bookish.

Test series does not have new questions, but only PYQs. PYQs are extremely relevant during preparation; if you can be honest with your prep and do them on time, nothing like it. Otherwise, through their test series, you can cover them. 

EiChan,assiduousand4 otherslike this
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Upsclawoptional.in notes are very average, nothing extraordinary. You cannot substitute them for your books. Dukkis are the bare minimum you need to read, and there is no getting around that.

Some of their notes are extremely outdated. For example, Plea Bargaining notes do not mention the CrPC. Evaluation is okay, quite detailed. However, more emphasis is given on presentation rather than content. I do not get the feeling that the evaluators are updated on recent developments. Quite bookish.

Test series does not have new questions, but only PYQs. PYQs are extremely relevant during preparation; if you can be honest with your prep and do them on time, nothing like it. Otherwise, through their test series, you can cover them. 

I had a talk with my mentor regarding questions. Through the sectional tests they ll cover the last 20 years questions...thereafter in full length tests new questions covering current developments will be covered. Anyone who has written full length tests can confirm.

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I have earlier written mains with law  and I  found their notes very helpful and precise. Constitutional law,mercantile law and international law notes are really good. From my experience,I feel they are way ahead of the notes and dukkis available in the market. 

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Lol. Of course the marketing team would know best. Whatever you say. :)
Reticent,
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@Neyawn @root, some major marketing going on here! 

Hakunah_Matata,Homo Neanderthalensisand2 otherslike this
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Whatever you feel...you can express. Members here are not that dumb. I am sure members who hav subscribed or who ll be subscribing shall satisfy themselves about their requirement and expectation. Let's not assume that people are fools here to get swayed by marketing only.
b_ranjan,
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till date I haven't seen even one instance of marketing about upsclawoptional.in in FB, insta or quora unlike other coaching platforms...i am not sure what marketing u r talking about
b_ranjan,
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@Patootie @Patootie well said brother. upsclawoptional is totally bogus,i took demo and found out that they are still in their 2015-16 era. the founder was clueless about some basic questions so i didnt join
notes are below average.they have made summary which is useless in answer writing.
cant comment on test series but they said they have already prepared all tests in advance and it will be in dashboard from day 1.so whats the use?their website takes hours to open.


dont waste your money guys,full marketting is going on.


beware of defacto law also/he is more dangerous than upsclawoptional.


talked to some serious frnds who cleared mains with law,they suggested only self study and books can help you in mains and not any coaching notes.


hope it helps


Reticent,Viraj1692
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@Honest_Homo thanks for giving review of lawexpertsmv...

after so much research i found out that no one is expert is law optional


Reticent,Viraj1692
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Being a law graduate from a top NLU and having law optional, I have been a regular observer in this thread. Being an enrolled student with upsclawoptional.in and being immensely benefited by their notes and test series, I thought it would be wrong to remain silent without clarifying certain things:-

1. The way all of a sudden you two started reacting it seems in fact both of you are acting at the instance of some coaching institute whose business has been impacted. All the while this thread has been a platform for exchange of views, lets keep it that way.

2. Viraj1692...few weeks ago u had posted that you are a geography student thinking to shift to law. All of a sudden how come you have known so much about law coaching? And why did you delete your earlier posts? Be honest bro...

3. its only enrolled students who visit their site regularly. U said u r not enrolled. How do you know the site takes hours to open? Strange...

For me it takes 25-30 seconds sometimes even 40 -50 secs as its a content heavy site. Dnt expect a coaching website to use advanced techs like FB, Google, youtube which opens in a flash.

4. I myself wrote their full lengh tests and found questions asked touching SC judgements delivered 4-5 days back. And for your kind information the full length tests are nowhere uploaded in advance. Please get your facts correct. Dnt spread such trash without even being an enrolled student. How do you know what all are there in the dashboard?

5. Having appeared in Mains I wrote GS tests from Vision. I can vouch that their evaluation is much much better so far as law in concerned. I can now write much better answers than I could 6 mnths back. 

6. @viraj1692: Can u plz disclose the foundational questions which the founder could not answer? I have got many concepts cleared by him and i found him very inspiring and thorough...has to be...he is a NLU grad and scored very well in law optional...a teacher is always a teacher....good, bad...indifferent. dnt write half baked things...we are still aspirants...dnt know whether we ll even clear prelims this year. Btw dnt mind if I can ask...Have you cleared Prelims and wrote Mains at least once?

7. I regret that you found them to be in 2015-16 era. Go through their current affairs modules once You enrol. 

8. The Revision Notes which is a summary of the Main notes is not meant for writing answers...its only for last minute revision. Did you think you will write answers from the Revision Notes? What did you mean...I wish law was so easy...  

9. I agree with @patootie ...that some of the modules require upgradation. Having gone through all the modules by now I can say such modules are very few in number. At the same time there are many modules where very recent 2020 judgments have also been included. Having struggled with law optional fr 1.5 years, I still found their Notes to be the best for Mains, where time management is a much bigger challenge than super duper content. 

10. I disagree that their evaluation is bookish and outdated. In my last Mains and even 6 mnths back I use to write essay type long answers. Its only Ghosh Sir, who taught me how to convert every answer in Charts, diagrams and flowcharts and thereby save time. He is much in tune with the requirements of the Main Exam. He has helped me a lot in developing my answers...I have every reason to acknowledge that in public.  

I know I ll face attacks on the allegation of marketing. But then...whatever I have narrated here is 100% true and enrolled students will agree. 
upsclawoptional.in as on date doesnt even appear in google, forget about FB, Telegram etc etc. This shows that they spend 0 for marketing. When I decided to enrol, this is what impressed me the most. 

This is also the reason why I wrote this long post speaking on behalf of them. 

Please dont believe anyone or any post even my post above. Verify and assess everything for yourself.

assiduous,Aks1992and2 otherslike this
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Being a law graduate from a top NLU and having law optional, I have been a regular observer in this thread. Being an enrolled student with upsclawoptional.in and being immensely benefited by their notes and test series, I thought it would be wrong to remain silent without clarifying certain things:-

1. The way all of a sudden you two started reacting it seems in fact both of you are acting at the instance of some coaching institute whose business has been impacted. All the while this thread has been a platform for exchange of views, lets keep it that way.

2. Viraj1692...few weeks ago u had posted that you are a geography student thinking to shift to law. All of a sudden how come you have known so much about law coaching? And why did you delete your earlier posts? Be honest bro...

3. its only enrolled students who visit their site regularly. U said u r not enrolled. How do you know the site takes hours to open? Strange...

For me it takes 25-30 seconds sometimes even 40 -50 secs as its a content heavy site. Dnt expect a coaching website to use advanced techs like FB, Google, youtube which opens in a flash.

4. I myself wrote their full lengh tests and found questions asked touching SC judgements delivered 4-5 days back. And for your kind information the full length tests are nowhere uploaded in advance. Please get your facts correct. Dnt spread such trash without even being an enrolled student. How do you know what all are there in the dashboard?

5. Having appeared in Mains I wrote GS tests from Vision. I can vouch that their evaluation is much much better so far as law in concerned. I can now write much better answers than I could 6 mnths back. 

6. @viraj1692: Can u plz disclose the foundational questions which the founder could not answer? I have got many concepts cleared by him and i found him very inspiring and thorough...has to be...he is a NLU grad and scored very well in law optional...a teacher is always a teacher....good, bad...indifferent. dnt write half baked things...we are still aspirants...dnt know whether we ll even clear prelims this year. Btw dnt mind if I can ask...Have you cleared Prelims and wrote Mains at least once?

7. I regret that you found them to be in 2015-16 era. Go through their current affairs modules once You enrol. 

8. The Revision Notes which is a summary of the Main notes is not meant for writing answers...its only for last minute revision. Did you think you will write answers from the Revision Notes? What did you mean...I wish law was so easy...  

9. I agree with @patootie ...that some of the modules require upgradation. Having gone through all the modules by now I can say such modules are very few in number. At the same time there are many modules where very recent 2020 judgments have also been included. Having struggled with law optional fr 1.5 years, I still found their Notes to be the best for Mains, where time management is a much bigger challenge than super duper content. 

10. I disagree that their evaluation is bookish and outdated. In my last Mains and even 6 mnths back I use to write essay type long answers. Its only Ghosh Sir, who taught me how to convert every answer in Charts, diagrams and flowcharts and thereby save time. He is much in tune with the requirements of the Main Exam. He has helped me a lot in developing my answers...I have every reason to acknowledge that in public.  

I know I ll face attacks on the allegation of marketing. But then...whatever I have narrated here is 100% true and enrolled students will agree. 
upsclawoptional.in as on date doesnt even appear in google, forget about FB, Telegram etc etc. This shows that they spend 0 for marketing. When I decided to enrol, this is what impressed me the most. 

This is also the reason why I wrote this long post speaking on behalf of them. 

Please dont believe anyone or any post even my post above. Verify and assess everything for yourself.

Lol.

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