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Official : Law Optional Discussion Group - Syllabus, Queries, How To and Previous Year Papers

Hi! Is anyone here with law optional?

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@Lawoptionalaspirant No idea about others but upsclawoptional is very very slow when it comes to evaluation. You will have to keep sending reminders asking them for evaluated copy. Well established institutes with several enrolled students also do not take so much time. 


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Does anyone have Nirvana notes available with them and will not mind sharing? Will be extremely grateful.
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So guys after a lot of debate about Upsclawoptional.in here I am writing an informed review of the same. 

I took their test series for mains 2020.

Pros - decent answer sheet evaluation, made some good points wrt presentation

Cons - no synopsis, copy evaluation takes a lot of time.. At times more than 10 days and this with repeated reminders. I don't know how it would have worked out without constant reminders, evaluated copy focuses more on presentation less in content. 

I have written 5-6 tests for them. Post that no test papers have been uploaded. Yes, this when exams are starting in next 20 days.

Ofcourse, question can be raised why I am taking effort to write this so close to mains - because it's frustrating. I have clearly wasted my money and don't want others to do the same or go through this irritation. 

Also, it's not just me who is experiencing this but I know someone else also having similar experience. 

Please make an informed choice and don't fall prey to false marketing gimmicks. 

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@paranthapijja  honey Sir runs Law Optional in Dias.. 
He have taught me few subjects of Law Optional like Sales of Good act, partnership etc when I was taking classes in Ambition.. main classess was taken be Alok sir..
Honey sir is soft spoken and jolly Personality and is very friendly.
Few people liked he way of teaching.. but I was not able to grasp law in first..( but I was Engineer when I took classes..now I am also a Lawyer..)
For have mixed review.. if you are background maybe you will find merit in his teachings..
No idea of material.. that time as I was in. Ambition all material belongs to ambition IAS.. it was a decent material.
 


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@Joeyisthebest 17 people have been selected from law Optional this yeas


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@Joeyisthebest same experience with my friend who has enrolled with them for 2020 mains

1.No synopsis
2.No best copy 
3.No video discussion
4. Evaluation takes more than 2 weeks
(he said they dont even reply to mails inspite of reminder)
5.Even after waiting for so long their scanning is not proper, no marks for some questions,only feedback is given.
6.only focus on flowcharts and presentation.
8.material is also average.Cannot replace standard books.
7.when asked about the delay they say they have many admissions so evaluation takes more time.

onlys cons.
no pros.

note:This is a genuine review.Nothing against them.
Also my friend joined another online test series (lawexpert) their evaluation is on time but test questions is poor.

So stay away from both of these

So there is almost no class in online mode for law test series who is reliable.
Nirwana doesn't provide online test series who has decent reviews.


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Upsclawoptional.in review.

Cons:

1. Not responsive.@Reticent can corroborate.

2. The evaluation for the tests that I gave were more or less done within a week. However, no value addition. Comments focused on presentation more than anything else. Draw a chart here, draw a spider web there, improve your handwriting, you get the gist.

3. I needed notes for a few subjects which yield low returns wrt time invested. These notes were not uploaded until yesterday, 2 weeks before the exam. 

4. Notes were substandard. For paper 2, a number of modules did not mention section numbers. For eg, the module on Plea Bargaining did not include the provisions in CrPC, the only codified law regarding the same.

5. Notes did not include any case laws whatsoever for most parts of Paper 2.

6. These substandard notes were not uploaded until after an extremely stern and unpleasant conversation.

7. Further, these notes were prepared in a shoddy manner and it is obvious that the content creator was pressed for time. Considering it was done in the past week, most of the content is actually taken verbatim from the first google result. For example, I could match the "Trial by Media" module word for word with a legalserviceindia article which appears as the first google search result.

8. Full Length Tests haven't been uploaded on the portal despite multiple requests.

9. The 5-6 tests I bothered to write, questions were only from PYQs. Except for one question on COVID-19 and Force Majeure.

10. Extremely rude when I criticised them for their shitty service. 

11. Extremely high cost. At 18k.

Pros:

1. Constitutional Law and International Law notes are okay if you want to just touch the surface of it. (No alternative to standard books in my view)

2.  Good notes on Negotiable Instruments Act. (No case laws for the most part, but my standards are low considering the above cons)

All in all, it left an extremely bitter taste in my mouth. Felt more disappointed than anything else. Would recommend joining a more established institute.

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I hope mr.ghosh(ghost) is reading above comments . Very unprofessional  . Upsclawoptional won't  last  long for sure because of their service. 

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Anyone here who wrote mains and can share their experience?
gaugau24,
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@all-can ny1 plz just jot down "must know"topics of Contract,IPC,Torts,International Law plz 4 ready reference??would b a gr8 favour.Thnx in advance.

ATI SARVATRA VAJRAYET

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@newintherace I wrote mains 2020 and earlier 2018 mains with law optional. Some of the pointers that I can I make are - 

1. While paper 1 is more static and has fixed sources, part b of paper 2 is a tough nut to Crack. 

2. Not a wise option to leave CLD part or do them just briefly. The IPR questions clearly conveyed it. 

3. Torts and IPC can be your saviors in paper2 if you prepare them well. Mostly static portion and expected questions. In an awful PART B they can bring a sigh of relief. 

4. 5 days are not enough to revise the entire optional if you haven't done several revisions beforehand. I doubt even after that it would be possible. 

5. Completing paper isn't as tricky as in GS papers provided you know case laws and sections/articles at the tip of your figures for majority of the paper.

6. There is a dearth of good test series/coaching for law optional. It would be good if you can form a group of 3-4 like-minded people to share notes/review answers/discuss questions etc. This one thing played a crucial role in my preparation of optional and I personally benefited a lot from it. 

All in all, paper 2 needs more revision while paper 1 can be improvised with some recent case laws etc. However, the small topics in paper 2 should be prepared well before the prelims. Insurance  guarantee etc. 



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@Joeyisthebest Thanks for sharing your experience. I always thought that Paper 1 is more analytical and might be a bit difficult but this year's paper clearly reflects that both the papers are equally difficult! The IPR questions were so unconventional.

Did you join any test series and find it helpful?




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@newintherace Paper 1 definitely requires less effort compared to Paper 2 provided basics are strong. In case of Paper 2 there is just too much information and case laws and sections. Plus the syllabus too is huge for paper 2 and UPSC has actually started going in detail of these smaller topics like IPR was visible given a huge weight-age this year. 


I joined 2 different test series for 2018 and 2020 attempt. I would not recommend either of them. Peer evaluation/self practice may be much more beneficial. 


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Can someone upload a list of standard books topic wise or point out a link or source for the same.

Thank you

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@Dhananjay_Singh https://saumya711.wordpress.com/2018/05/14/law-as-an-optional-subject-upsc-cse-strategy/


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Anyone in with law optional ?
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Hey, everyone!
I am preparing for CSE'21, with law optional. Till now, I haven't completed the entire optional syllabus and am uncertain regarding sources for some topics, like-

1. Would Dukki suffice for Contract law and Torts?

2. What are the good sources for covering CLDs especially, cyber law, environmental law and competition law?

3. Also, is it better to write a number of caselaws in my answers or to stick to only the important ones? 

I would really appreciate it if anyone on this community would guide regarding these.

Thanks :)

P.S.- Not optional related, but what is a good and concise source to cover internal security from? Both Vision IAS material and McGraw hill book are more than 200 pages.



ssver2,
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Hey, everyone!
I am preparing for CSE'21, with law optional. Till now, I haven't completed the entire optional syllabus and am uncertain regarding sources for some topics, like-

1. Would Dukki suffice for Contract law and Torts?

2. What are the good sources for covering CLDs especially, cyber law, environmental law and competition law?

3. Also, is it better to write a number of caselaws in my answers or to stick to only the important ones? 

I would really appreciate it if anyone on this community would guide regarding these.

Thanks :)

P.S.- Not optional related, but what is a good and concise source to cover internal security from? Both Vision IAS material and McGraw hill book are more than 200 pages.



1. yes

2. IT Act, GS stuff, a list of NGT landmark decisions, etc

3. Only imp ones

* vision one is decent. you can check out forum book too

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