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Mission Mains 2021: GS 4 Ethics Discussion

This is for those of you who are planning to write Mains 2020. Primarily, the agenda of this thread would be 


1. Answer Writing Practice

2. Sharing examples - anecdotes from Current affairs relevant for GS4 Answer writing

3. Any doubts wrt. Paper 4!

Feel free to pool in your suggestions!

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Saw somewhere in one of the threads about Atul sir's videos withcase studies. So can some again mention those videos' number?
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Hi, I am a nube.

Sorry to interrupt! I just wanted to know if you guys have any strict no-no (or must-do) tips that you've realised after going through this cycle of prep? It will be great help if you can list it down in this thread: https://forumias.com/post/detail/Lessons-for-nubes-2021-1602570366

Thank you! 


whatonly,
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From where to get atul sirs video lectures?
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Effective democracy requires people who have an inherent capacity for justice. Democracy only works when there is a fundamental striving for justice. Without a sense and commitment to justice—democracy will not work. A driving sense of justice makes democracy a viable option for a people. 

But, a functioning democracy needs that justice is preserved. Appreciation and love for justice isn't same as striving towards preserving justice. As individuals we tend to strive for justice. But as groups we tend to strive for self-interest. For example, lobbyists, ideological fringe groups tend to observe this tendency. 

@Patootie @whatonly 

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Q.“Man’s capacity for justice makes democracy possible, but man’s inclination to injustice makes democracy necessary”. Comment. 

Ethics- Democracy answer.pdf

Great to have you back! 

Haven't done ethics, first answer. Go easy pleeaaase. :P


Examples are nice. Introduction is a tad abrupt. 

I suggest you space out your answer is shorter paragraphs. :)

Patootie,
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1-JusticeCapacityDemocracy.pdf

Any suggestions would be very helpful. Too long? Are the examples sensible? Should there be more examples and less theory? And I’m not sure about the definition of justice I have given.


Examples are fine, however the answer is too long and misses the crux. As you rightly mentioned, you need to address the angle of justice more. 

whatonly,
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Effective democracy requires people who have an inherent capacity for justice. Democracy only works when there is a fundamental striving for justice. Without a sense and commitment to justice—democracy will not work. A driving sense of justice makes democracy a viable option for a people. 

But, a functioning democracy needs that justice is preserved. Appreciation and love for justice isn't same as striving towards preserving justice. As individuals we tend to strive for justice. But as groups we tend to strive for self-interest. For example, lobbyists, ideological fringe groups tend to observe this tendency. 

@Patootie @whatonly 

That’s a brilliant crisp answer. Thanks for the review! Read a Tagore quote that should have pointed me in the direction of your final point yesterday about how man is kind but men are cruel. Even posted it here. Will improve. :)

upsc2020,Lemon_Tea
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EthicsDefinitionTable3371598939295.pdf


A forum user shared this on other thread.

Its a compilation of ethics definitions from Red Book.

I Found it very useful and so thought its my duty to share it here again For benefit of all.


Thankyou to sir/Ma'am who compiled it and this wonderful forum community.

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@upsc2020

hey, can anyone tell me. how do we approach these kind of quotation questions.

they are really hard to decipher ?

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@upsc2020

hey, can anyone tell me. how do we approach these kind of quotation questions.

they are really hard to decipher ?

Hi, you address it in the following manner:

1. See the theory behind it

2. Link it with current relevance

3. Quote examples

4. See if a counter argument can be made - balance the view

5. Conclude wrt. theory behind it. 

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There is a view that the official secrets act is an obstacle to the implementation of the Rights to Information act. Do you agree with the view? Discuss (10 marks) (150 words)
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Has any 1 any idea abt Unacademy Awdesh singh IRS ethics book or Insight Vinay sir solved questions book?plz do reply.
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@upsc2020

ohkk.. very well. i get it. thankyou

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has anyone read this book....will it help for ethics??.... especially for case studies approach??....@Neyawn  ??

Sankoza,
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@Bolt

Hi. is the peinted notes of Atul garg any different from classnotes?

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@Sanfran19

*printed

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@Itachi I have. It’s a well-written book. However, I’m not sure how helpful it is for answer writing in GS4!

If you want to understand how to approach case studies and get some broad principles that should be used to solve a case study, this book really works for that! 

But beyond that, it does not have material for answer writing per se. However, one more possibility is that you can quote Anil Swarup as an example in section A questions for integrity, honesty etc. 

Bottom line: I would recommend you to read the book because 

1. It’s very small. Can be done in a few hours. You can read this when you are tired of reading usual Mains material! 

2. It’s an engaging book and you’ll definitely learn a thing or two from it. 


Itachi,eclectus
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@Sankoza Thanks!!


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DEDICATION TO PUBLIC SERVICE

Sadhika,
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DEDICATION TO PUBLIC SERVICE

https://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-ias-officer-caught-taking-rs-12-lakh-bribe-in-thane-2403510/amp

https://m.timesofindia.com/city/bhubaneswar/ias-officer-caught-with-rs-1-lakh-bribe-in-odisha-suspended/amp_articleshow/73035717.cms

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.hindustantimes.com/india-news/corruption-accused-ias-officer-chandrakala-says-cbi-raid-political-move/story-Kp3icSEDAM0hWXclCtNCOL_amp.html

For every 1 officer caught there is at least 100 that don't make the news. They do however lose almost all of their entire lives savings to cbi.

Want to know if an officer is actually honest, look up his/her HOP.

People posted in customs used to attend office even on the day of their wedding and didn't take any leave for honeymoon. 

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