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[Results] Prelims 2020 Over - Gearing for 2021

Because of the corona virus issue? If it does not happen then worst affected will be people whose interview is stuck, around 600-700 such people I think are yet to appear for their interview.


@neyawn sir and others, what is your take?

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Upsc lift qus from somewhr   There can not be a article which ll say AI is effective for meaningful story and wireless transmission .  It is obvious ans is B . I saw explaination of gs score for all   they have shared a link . When u read that article it says how AI is writting story etc ...  but surprise !! Below it written "april fool " !!  Whn u have 2 search so much to prove something right and that too u find false alert .. its obvious ur ans is wrong .

Exactly... UPSC must have lifted the question from some research/news article or some book. There are many articles with titles "What AI can and can't do", " Where AI fails", "evolution of AI" etc, and many of them discuss the failure of AI "in present state" in generating creative content and expect it to be a thing of future.UPSC must have lifted it from such articles, and they even gave one very weird or outlandish option of "wireless transmission" to aid students in arriving at correct answer. So, most probably answer is "B".

And many people are searching vigorously for AI written meaningful stories, even if it writes some meaningful story, it is very rare and 1 out of a 100 (It is an exception, rather than a norm). Also most news articles and research articles point to "non-sense" content generated by AI, due to "lack of cognition". Thus the general consensus of public is AI is still premature in this arena, and UPSC will most likely go with this. 

Did any coaching give option B??

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@Gopal Libraries yes they are open, but Test centers are yet to open. 


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Bhai can ayone give review of Forum's current affairs classes?
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@Biradar ab toh lgra hai ai all nhi hai..... stories likhra hai, songs bnara hai but meaningful etc shayad nhi.....plus wireless transmission ko artificial intelligence wireless mobile charging maanenge toh sahi hai warna Tesla type transmission samjhte hai toh woh bhi galat hai......I think general lenge toh all hoga agar specific krenge toh 1,3,4


Bhai suno ek minute...apke is doubt ko yahi khatam kar deta hun ki kya Ai meaningful stories likh sakta hai ki nahi.


Aur log bhi dekh lo jinko doubt ho pyari AI par......


Jasprit Bindrahas written a Book on AI. Now...one chapter in this bOok has been written by AI itself. Yes . Now a chapter has to be 'meaningful'. Isn't it. Now when it can write meaningfup non-fiction, why not fiction then.

Link

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@WelcomeHomeFrank let me know if you get any reviews on the same and even answer writing group


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Did any coaching give option B??

I already addressed the problem with institute keys for this particular Q, they are superficially citing articles by only reading headline to justify option 2, inside the article flaws of AI are highlighted. Moreover no coaching institute properly justified "Wireless transmission". Following are the errors

1. Vajiram cited "Sunspring" story - It is nonsensical.

2. Vision cited songs of "I am AI" album - created by human with help of AI, not AI completely. Infact the artist in interview says AI utterences are gibberish and only cues/inspiration can be taken from it.

3. Mrunal cited "daddy' car" - again made by human with help of AI, His another citation also erroneous(photo below)


4. Also Ias baba cited wrongly.

My point is that for coaching institutes while option 5 is out of bounds, in option 2 they are overlooking(taking it for granted) and citing sources just by superficially seeing headline -->leading to wrong answer key. Hopefully UPSC doesn't do this and I would like to think that the examiner read the article fully before framing question. 

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Shayad maine AI wala solve kar diya hai aap logon ka doubt. Ek baar mera comment upar padh lena@Biradar bhaiji

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@Admgenalanezh bhai aisa ho toh acha hai....I did all....jasprit Bindra waala story pta nhi tha mujhe


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the part above says that AI did create meaningfup stories BUT it was not humane. But it wasnt asked in the question.


I had done my majors in AI, i know the power of AI. Take for ex. Alexa....it can create sentences...and a long sentence is also a story mitr 

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@MrJ Bro upar padh lena mera comment


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For AI can't effectively do songs 😂🤣


https://artsandculture.google.com/theme/12-songs-created-by-ai-barbican-centre/FwJibAD7QslgLA?hl=en


Yet some people will keep pushing "no effectively meaningful songs reeeeee"

What if those are UPSC people deciding keys?? Your ans are all wrong..

People debating.


Either A or D are the options

Upsc: B is the answer.


There are more such questions that we have been discussing here.

I didn’t bring them here, but at least 10 questions fall in this category.


abd no point discussion. Because, whatever UPSC provides as the key, it cannot be questioned even if it is false.


So, agains time to move forward. My only desire here is that hardwork should be rewarded accordingly.

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@Admgenalanezh yeah just read about it.....ai has written a chapter in his book


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https://www.jaspreetbindra.com/how-did-an-ai-write-a-chapter-on-ai-in-my-book-the-tech-whisperer/


plmokn25688524,
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@Admgenalanezh U can look at customer reviews  at Amazon for this book.

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Tech-Whisperer-Digital-Transformation-Technologies/product-reviews/0670091014/ref=cm_cr_dp_mb_show_all_top?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews

Most of them find  AI chapter  as disappointing, and rigged.Meaningful doesn't mean grammatical correctness  but something  which makes sense.Hopefully cannot do.


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@Admgenalanezh There is no doubting the power of AI but creating  MEANINGFUL Stories  and songs PRESENTLY  and that too EFFECTIVELY is not too convincing. They need human intervention  and editing .


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insight baliyan in its utube video saying hot asphalt has less carbon foot print and steel slag cant be used in agriculture ..  now i see how people inflating their marks .



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@MrJ Bro upar padh lena mera comment


Alright, what you have given me is an author commenting about his own book... obviously there are vested interests and no one verified his claims on not intervening, and no one of us read the chapter to comment on it, While there are many articles out in open opinioning that AI's text is non sense. to prove AI can do something effectively means you should be able to give many examples, but to disprove it, I just need to show few examples, which I did. Moreover, I don't think UPSC framed Q based on Jasprit bhumra chapter. As some have majors in AI, I am attaching an interesting read below, decide for yourselves.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/02/19/868178/what-ai-still-cant-do/ 

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@MrJ Bro I have already  seen many reviews  on Amazon about his book saying that  AI chapter  was disappointing and AI cant do many things  


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@Admgenalanezh There is no doubting the power of AI but creating  MEANINGFUL Stories  and songs PRESENTLY  and that too EFFECTIVELY is not too convincing. They need human intervention  and editing .


Bro, you are right. But remember that "....xyz" in your google search, as it tries to complete your statements in searches. Bindra Ji may have used weak AI algos, but companies like Google and Amazon have very very powerful engines to do such things. And what is a "story " by the way.


when google corrects us by "did you mean.....", here gentleman it is trying to give meaning to your spellings and sentence. Hope I cleared your doubts. :)

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@Admgenalanezh There is no doubting the power of AI but creating  MEANINGFUL Stories  and songs PRESENTLY  and that too EFFECTIVELY is not too convincing. They need human intervention  and editing .


Bro, you are right. But remember that "....xyz" in your google search, as it tries to complete your statements in searches. Bindra Ji may have used weak AI algos, but companies like Google and Amazon have very very powerful engines to do such things. And what is a "story " by the way.


when google corrects us by "did you mean.....", here gentleman it is trying to give meaning to your spellings and sentence. Hope I cleared your doubts. :)

 

Watch this 7 minute video, u will understand difference b/w completing a line, writing grammatically correct sentences and story writing. Hopefully this clears ur doubts

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