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[Results] Prelims 2020 Over - Gearing for 2021

Because of the corona virus issue? If it does not happen then worst affected will be people whose interview is stuck, around 600-700 such people I think are yet to appear for their interview.


@neyawn sir and others, what is your take?

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jack_Sparrow,curious_kidand137 otherslike this
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@mightyraju  Can you share Drishti magazine link? Fed up of vision and badly want to see something fresh for now. 

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what could be an authentic source then? for writing answers?

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Please do not do insights secure at all. I have suffered from it for 2 years as I actually thought that doing it will help. It is trues that you come up with many types of questions. But if I have cleared Mains in my fourth attempt only because for 2 years i was busy doing secure bogged down the huge bulk and volume of it. 

You will feel all good while seeing the compilation, but in the end there will be so much duplication of content that you will end up with khichdi. You will not be able to write consistent matter on any question, becuas every time a new type of answer will be given. It is true that we need perspectives, but it was only this year for my Mains I realised that you dont need to write 100 answers on same topic. I did forum current affairs and faculty did one single document of 2-3 pages on each issue. That is what you need in the end before Mains. If you have 100 pages on Covid 19 before Mains, you are screwed. You will get max of 1 question each in all four papers.


At the end of the year you will have thousands of questions and no coherence, and you will be forced to join some classes at the last moment - after doing secure for 2 years. And I am not saying from my own experience, but from experience of entire group of people who followed secure religiously.

Main thing is nobody is there to tell and we dont know until we pay for by wasting 1-2 years. So save yourself a year or two, dont waste time over secure. 


You have a point. Since I didn't qualify for Mains in 2018-19 mains, so not a person to comment on real exam situations. But it did help me in Mains TS. This is how I do-

1. I skip for GS4 part.

2. Avoid repetitive themes. I jot down in Q-A Format on plain sheets. 

3.1 Page(both sides)- 4 Q-A. 

4. Since I have been doing this since past >1.5 years, it takes me around 15 plain sheets to cover GS1-3.This is around 60 questions out of around 300+ in a month for GS 1-3

Again I must confess that this may prove disastrous and you may be absolutely right.But I believe UPSC is a game of trial and errors in many senses. What may seem a right strategy today might be wrong in 2021 for the same person.

Suggestions are welcome.

Casablanca,
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@goldberry thanks for this

But what is the replacement for secure

 vision mains test series of 2-3 year can be done and make notes issue wise,like we did in secure(topic wise note)?

Coz as u said in the end only matter is 1-2 pages notes for every keyword
But vo notes kis material se banaye?
Vision test series of past 2-3 years seem good to me


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Tyler Durden,
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Please do not do insights secure at all. I have suffered from it for 2 years as I actually thought that doing it will help. It is trues that you come up with many types of questions. But if I have cleared Mains in my fourth attempt only because for 2 years i was busy doing secure bogged down the huge bulk and volume of it. 

You will feel all good while seeing the compilation, but in the end there will be so much duplication of content that you will end up with khichdi. You will not be able to write consistent matter on any question, becuas every time a new type of answer will be given. It is true that we need perspectives, but it was only this year for my Mains I realised that you dont need to write 100 answers on same topic. I did forum current affairs and faculty did one single document of 2-3 pages on each issue. That is what you need in the end before Mains. If you have 100 pages on Covid 19 before Mains, you are screwed. You will get max of 1 question each in all four papers.


At the end of the year you will have thousands of questions and no coherence, and you will be forced to join some classes at the last moment - after doing secure for 2 years. And I am not saying from my own experience, but from experience of entire group of people who followed secure religiously.

Main thing is nobody is there to tell and we dont know until we pay for by wasting 1-2 years. So save yourself a year or two, dont waste time over secure. 


You have a point. Since I didn't qualify for Mains in 2018-19 mains, so not a person to comment on real exam situations. But it did help me in Mains TS. This is how I do-

1. I skip for GS4 part.

2. Avoid repetitive themes. I jot down in Q-A Format on plain sheets. 

3.1 Page(both sides)- 4 Q-A. 

4. Since I have been doing this since past >1.5 years, it takes me around 15 plain sheets to cover GS1-3.This is around 60 questions out of around 300+ in a month for GS 1-3

Again I must confess that this may prove disastrous and you may be absolutely right.But I believe UPSC is a game of trial and errors in many senses. What may seem a right strategy today might be wrong in 2021 for the same person.

Suggestions are welcome.

That is a fair enough approach. If you that much time you can do so, but if you do not have affordability issues, forum current affairs classes will save you a lot of time. Even if you dont do the classes, get the class handouts. That is my point blank opinion. 


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@goldberry thanks for this

But what is the replacement for secure

 vision mains test series of 2-3 year can be done and make notes issue wise,like we did in secure(topic wise note)?

Coz as u said in the end only matter is 1-2 pages notes for every keyword
But vo notes kis material se banaye?
Vision test series of past 2-3 years seem good to me


Yes. Best is go for 3 - 4 years Vision Mains Test Series compilations . Get it theme wise from iMagerunners shop. They are especially good for Indian Society and GS 4. 

Deepak802,Raillife
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In context to the  discussion of which Institue’s CA material is better one, I know that Vision’ material like PT365 and monthly magazines are best in the market, can anyone shed some light on Rau IAS material as well, like they also have their monthly magazines called Focus as well as full year compilation known as Prelims Compass Magazines. Does anyone follow them? Please provide your suggestions.

Also, GS Score has provided such yearly compilations of various subjects as well. They are available in PDF format free of cost at their website.

Can anyone  who is done with revising the yearly compilations for CA please just have a look at all of them and suggest which one would be the best one to go for Prelims 2020.

Thank you!

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@TheNotorious I think all compilations have more or less the same content and it all boils to down to which one you're most comfortable with. For ex I don't like Insights for some reason. Maybe it's the font or the layout I don't know but it just doesn't click for me. 

Rau's Compass is very underrated imo. I have been covering both Vision PT365 and Rau's Compass and I actually prefer the latter. Now with the additional time I'll be covering monthly compilation of Rau's Focus too. 


No 1,Phagocyteand1 otherslike this
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@dwightschrute and what if one would like to proceed with only one? What will be your final recommendation then?
For yearly compilation, PT 365 or Rau’s compass?
and for monthly magazines, vision’s one or Rau’s focus magazine?

I’m asking this because you are familiar with both of them.

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I have been following factly and I think it serves the purpose for prelims. What do you think about forumias mains marathon compilation? Is it worth pursuing?
Antineutrino ,
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Anyone joined Lukmaan ias gs main test series? How is it? Rest ts are too costly.Also Lukmaan is providing lot of value addition materials.
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@goldberry thanks for this

But what is the replacement for secure

 vision mains test series of 2-3 year can be done and make notes issue wise,like we did in secure(topic wise note)?

Coz as u said in the end only matter is 1-2 pages notes for every keyword
But vo notes kis material se banaye?
Vision test series of past 2-3 years seem good to me


Yes. Best is go for 3 - 4 years Vision Mains Test Series compilations . Get it theme wise from iMagerunners shop. They are especially good for Indian Society and GS 4. 

@goldberry 

Wt will you suggest to me regarding notes making of vision ts,or shall i just read them


Also pls tell me the sources especially gs2,3


Also of possible plz tell me the strategy to cover gs2,3 before pre,pre ka itna dar nhu hai

Pre ka syllabus 2-3 baar padke ho rkha haj

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On the topic of CA classes, how is Santosh Sir's CA Program (Shubhra Ranjan)? 
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In context to the  discussion of which Institue’s CA material is better one, I know that Vision’ material like PT365 and monthly magazines are best in the market, can anyone shed some light on Rau IAS material as well, like they also have their monthly magazines called Focus as well as full year compilation known as Prelims Compass Magazines. Does anyone follow them? Please provide your suggestions.

Also, GS Score has provided such yearly compilations of various subjects as well. They are available in PDF format free of cost at their website.

Can anyone  who is done with revising the yearly compilations for CA please just have a look at all of them and suggest which one would be the best one to go for Prelims 2020.

Thank you!

I have seen rau's . It is good. But the problem is that for Prelims, we should always read the most popular magazine. Hence Vision wins hands down. 

TheNotorious,
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@goldberry thanks for this

But what is the replacement for secure

 vision mains test series of 2-3 year can be done and make notes issue wise,like we did in secure(topic wise note)?

Coz as u said in the end only matter is 1-2 pages notes for every keyword
But vo notes kis material se banaye?
Vision test series of past 2-3 years seem good to me


Yes. Best is go for 3 - 4 years Vision Mains Test Series compilations . Get it theme wise from iMagerunners shop. They are especially good for Indian Society and GS 4. 

@goldberry 

Wt will you suggest to me regarding notes making of vision ts,or shall i just read them


Also pls tell me the sources especially gs2,3


Also of possible plz tell me the strategy to cover gs2,3 before pre,pre ka itna dar nhu hai

Pre ka syllabus 2-3 baar padke ho rkha haj

See, for Mains there is an approach that is needed. I would strongly say to go for forum current, just to get the approach. Sir is most accurate. Otherwise, to understand it, it will take plenty of time. I also took 2-3 years to understand this.

You can take a look at Chokkalingham Sir's notes if you absolutely dont want to do classes. I had referred to them last to last year, but it was too bulky. 

Vision is damn good otherwise, but that orientation for making notes comes usually after you have written the Mains or after attending some classes. If you cant afford it, I will say at least see 4-5 classes of Mains Dipin sir and you will understand how to study a topic and then you can do it on your own.

Raillife,
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Spocksaid

On the topic of CA classes, how is Santosh Sir's CA Program (Shubhra Ranjan)? 

Sir is good. He tries very hard, but for Prelims, my flatmate joined and he taught and taught endlessly . I am talking about last year Prelims. 

Spock,nerdfighter
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I have been following factly and I think it serves the purpose for prelims. What do you think about forumias mains marathon compilation? Is it worth pursuing?

I have been following it too. It serves the purpose quite well actually. I am keeping it as my primary reference point and doing Vision just for safety. 

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Koi NextIAS monthly pe bhi kuch bol do 🤪
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@TheNotorious choose one for monthly and the other for yearly. That way if Vision misses out on something it'll be complemented by Rau's. 


TheNotorious,Angelsmiracle
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