[Results] Prelims 2020 Over - Gearing for 2021
Because of the corona virus issue? If it does not happen then worst affected will be people whose interview is stuck, around 600-700 such people I think are yet to appear for their interview.
@neyawn sir and others, what is your take?
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@MaxBlack yes, even i want thw exam to be on 4th of Oct.
People are recklessly roaming and crowding everyday.
For ganpati, for Eid,
But have problem with exam.
Those who want to appear on june 2021are free to not appear on 4th oct,.
But those who want, let them have the choice to appear or not.
Corona is going to be there, we have to admit that our govt and we have failed in containing it.
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@MaxBlack yes, even i want thw exam to be on 4th of Oct.People are recklessly roaming and crowding everyday.For ganpati, for Eid,But have problem with exam.Those who want to appear on june 2021are free to not appear on 4th oct,.But those who want, let them have the choice to appear or not.Corona is going to be there, we have to admit that our govt and we have failed in containing it.
Problem is not with the exam , problem is with the choice of appearing. As much as you and me want to appear the exam on OCt 4th and exit this exam cycle , choice should be there for people who are unable to do so due to the ongoing pandemic. No one wants to live perpetually in this exam cycle, everyone wants to exit it at the earliest.
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@Villanelle Good Time and the Lighthouse have me so excited to see him in this role.
I know right. I've been asking people to giving him a chance, but some have not moved on from Twilight LOL :D
I am excited for Tenet as well. I mean he is The Batman now, and is playing a role in Nolan's direction in TENET. Now that is something .
This is an extraordinary situation,
Exam postponement means it had to be merged with 2021 cycle, and that will be negative for all aspirant.
So its better that tbose who want to appear are allowed to give exam of 4th,
Those who are worried about corona can appear in 2021. Waise bhi they are aspiring for 2021.
GaneshGaitonde,sjl_mndl1369@mahi2501 you are amazing man!
Cos it might be the last attempt of some students owing to age/other criteria and do not have the luxury/chance to give up this attempt and appear next year where they won't be eligible to appear on 27 June 2021. For some students it will be a do and die attempt.
@MaxBlack some didnt already have the luxury of staying in room for all these 5 months..they had to go out daily for work.they need money for running family.work in challenging condition..travelling in public transport..not everyone have a car..or a separate room...we are talking about a job exam which is for one day..some are going out for work everyday all these months..and if its just abt last attempt for some why not ask for extra attempt? why penalise others for ur own fear?This is not a degree exam this is a job exam.If one doesnt feel comfortable no one forcing them. Neet is dffrnt its abt losing one yr.in career.here it is not that..u cnt have both here..xam.bhi dena hain aur ghar se bhi nehi nikalna hai pure sal..And yes everyone thinks the other doesnt understand their problm..I sympathise with the frontline warriors or those having medical cndn but for them extra attempt is the soln and not postponement which will result in cancellation this yr.This situation will continue till mid 2021.and for rest who are fearful skip this yr..its just an xam..and if CS is not important than life..why risk life for it
pushpa_satarkar2839,
This is an extraordinary situation,Exam postponement means it had to be merged with 2021 cycle, and that will be negative for all aspirant.So its better that tbose who want to appear are allowed to give exam of 4th,Those who are worried about corona can appear in 2021. Waise bhi they are aspiring for 2021.
What an amazing man🙏👏👏
Just laid out his reality as generalised one
Smart work
I am not generalising things..
If UPSC postpones the exam further, most likely the 2020 cycle will be merged with 2021..
Do you want that to happen??
So its better that it takes on 4th of oct and jinko, asuvidha hai wo 2021 me de
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@MaxBlack some didnt already have the luxury of staying in room for all these 5 months..they had to go out daily for work.they need money for running family.work in challenging condition..travelling in public transport..not everyone have a car..or a separate room...we are talking about a job exam which is for one day..some are going out for work everyday all these months..and if its just abt last attempt for some why not ask for extra attempt? why penalise others for ur own fear?This is not a degree exam this is a job exam.If one doesnt feel comfortable no one forcing them. Neet is dffrnt its abt losing one yr.in career.here it is not that..u cnt have both here..xam.bhi dena hain aur ghar se bhi nehi nikalna hai pure sal..And yes everyone thinks the other doesnt understand their problm..I sympathise with the frontline warriors or those having medical cndn but for them extra attempt is the soln and not postponement which will result in cancellation this yr.This situation will continue till mid 2021.and for rest who are fearful skip this yr..its just an xam..and if CS is not important than life..why risk life for it
Aapki icha poori hogi. Aap fikar mat karo.
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Off topic - does anyone know when CDS 2 2019 final results will come out/?
@Vatsa212 Thanks for the explanation!
What kind of insensitive argument is that nobody is forcing you?
There are no compulsions in many things in life yet we all do them as our life depends on it. Preaching is easy from above.
To the gentleman saying it is just an exam, sir, as you said, your money dried up so fast in the lockdown that you had to go out and work in these terrible times just to sustain yourself. With such wretched financial situation, you are still preparing for such a highly uncertain exam. Just like you have aspirations, others have theirs.
The compulsion here is time. This exam cycle. My time, my opportunities. The attempt age ratio I have in mind slipping through, several economic compulsions I do not wish to state here( no poverty porn on display) Will argue from just point of view. All I demand is equality of opportunity. Living in a democracy my demand is very well versed with the fundamental rights and directive principles.
Why should I be okay with a system where I am to suffer due to no fault of mine while the privileged ones are able to salvage their year? Is my time of no worth?
Where did I ask for a merger next year? Today we have a piece of news from serum institute that vaccines to be available after 73 days. We can have after that and push the next year prelims till August(like it used to be).
It is a privilege to say those who are not able to, do it next year. I thought we were trying to make society as equal as possible. My bad.
Anyway, NCERT 11th Political Theory has Justice as chapter 4. It contains John Rawls Theory of Justice. Quoting it verbatim as I find it useful here-
//So how do we reach a decision that would be both fair and just? John Rawls has tried to answer this question. He argues that the only way we can arrive at a fair and just rule is if we imagine ourselves to be in a situation in which we have to make decisions about how society should be organised although we do not know which position we would ourselves occupy in that society. That is, we do not know what kind of family we would be born in, whether we would be born into an ‘upper’ caste or ‘lower’ caste family, rich or poor, privileged or disadvantaged. Rawls argues that if we do not know, in this sense, who we will be and what options would be available to us in the future society, we will be likely to support a decision about the rules and organisation of that future society which would be fair for all the members. Rawls describes this as thinking under a ‘veil of ignorance’. He expects that in such a situation of complete ignorance about our possible position and status in society, each person would decide in the way they generally do, that is, in terms of their own interests. But since no one knows who he would be, and what is going to benefit him, each will envisage the future society from the point of view of the worst-off. It will be clear to a person who can reason and think for himself, that those who are born privileged will enjoy certain special opportunities. But, what if they have the misfortune of being born in a disadvantaged section of society where few opportunities would be available to them? Hence, it would make sense for each person, acting in his or her own interest, to try to think of rules of the organisation that will ensure reasonable opportunities to the weaker sections. The attempt will be to see that important resources, like education, health, shelter, etc., are available to all persons, even if they are not part of the upper class.//
Surely, nothing is bigger than life. But is not about just survival, isn't it? Let us not treat the less fortunate like farm animals where survival is the most important. I want to live my life with dignity, which is stripped away layer by layer if someone gets ahead of me due to their privilege and I am left behind with no fault of mine. I will raise my voice against it.
All the best to everyone. May a decision come which is acceptable to the majority.
Peace.
There are no compulsions in many things in life yet we all do them as our life depends on it. Preaching is easy from above.
To the gentleman saying it is just an exam, sir, as you said, your money dried up so fast in the lockdown that you had to go out and work in these terrible times just to sustain yourself. With such wretched financial situation, you are still preparing for such a highly uncertain exam. Just like you have aspirations, others have theirs.
The compulsion here is time. This exam cycle. My time, my opportunities. The attempt age ratio I have in mind slipping through, several economic compulsions I do not wish to state here( no poverty porn on display) Will argue from just point of view. All I demand is equality of opportunity. Living in a democracy my demand is very well versed with the fundamental rights and directive principles.
Why should I be okay with a system where I am to suffer due to no fault of mine while the privileged ones are able to salvage their year? Is my time of no worth?
Where did I ask for a merger next year? Today we have a piece of news from serum institute that vaccines to be available after 73 days. We can have after that and push the next year prelims till August(like it used to be).
It is a privilege to say those who are not able to, do it next year. I thought we were trying to make society as equal as possible. My bad.
Anyway, NCERT 11th Political Theory has Justice as chapter 4. It contains John Rawls Theory of Justice. Quoting it verbatim as I find it useful here-
//So how do we reach a decision that would be both fair and just? John Rawls has tried to answer this question. He argues that the only way we can arrive at a fair and just rule is if we imagine ourselves to be in a situation in which we have to make decisions about how society should be organised although we do not know which position we would ourselves occupy in that society. That is, we do not know what kind of family we would be born in, whether we would be born into an ‘upper’ caste or ‘lower’ caste family, rich or poor, privileged or disadvantaged. Rawls argues that if we do not know, in this sense, who we will be and what options would be available to us in the future society, we will be likely to support a decision about the rules and organisation of that future society which would be fair for all the members. Rawls describes this as thinking under a ‘veil of ignorance’. He expects that in such a situation of complete ignorance about our possible position and status in society, each person would decide in the way they generally do, that is, in terms of their own interests. But since no one knows who he would be, and what is going to benefit him, each will envisage the future society from the point of view of the worst-off. It will be clear to a person who can reason and think for himself, that those who are born privileged will enjoy certain special opportunities. But, what if they have the misfortune of being born in a disadvantaged section of society where few opportunities would be available to them? Hence, it would make sense for each person, acting in his or her own interest, to try to think of rules of the organisation that will ensure reasonable opportunities to the weaker sections. The attempt will be to see that important resources, like education, health, shelter, etc., are available to all persons, even if they are not part of the upper class.//
Surely, nothing is bigger than life. But is not about just survival, isn't it? Let us not treat the less fortunate like farm animals where survival is the most important. I want to live my life with dignity, which is stripped away layer by layer if someone gets ahead of me due to their privilege and I am left behind with no fault of mine. I will raise my voice against it.
All the best to everyone. May a decision come which is acceptable to the majority.
Peace.
@SergioRamos brilliant.
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If anyone is from Bengaluru, can you please suggest for some good accomodation place -hotel/hostel in Cubbon Road area?
@Villanelle man this is absolutely insane. i am in love with this new Batman...
What kind of insensitive argument is that nobody is forcing you?
There are no compulsions in many things in life yet we all do them as our life depends on it. Preaching is easy from above.
To the gentleman saying it is just an exam, sir, as you said, your money dried up so fast in the lockdown that you had to go out and work in these terrible times just to sustain yourself. With such wretched financial situation, you are still preparing for such a highly uncertain exam. Just like you have aspirations, others have theirs.
The compulsion here is time. This exam cycle. My time, my opportunities. The attempt age ratio I have in mind slipping through, several economic compulsions I do not wish to state here( no poverty porn on display) Will argue from just point of view. All I demand is equality of opportunity. Living in a democracy my demand is very well versed with the fundamental rights and directive principles.
Why should I be okay with a system where I am to suffer due to no fault of mine while the privileged ones are able to salvage their year? Is my time of no worth?
Where did I ask for a merger next year? Today we have a piece of news from serum institute that vaccines to be available after 73 days. We can have after that and push the next year prelims till August(like it used to be).
It is a privilege to say those who are not able to, do it next year. I thought we were trying to make society as equal as possible. My bad.
Anyway, NCERT 11th Political Theory has Justice as chapter 4. It contains John Rawls Theory of Justice. Quoting it verbatim as I find it useful here-
//So how do we reach a decision that would be both fair and just? John Rawls has tried to answer this question. He argues that the only way we can arrive at a fair and just rule is if we imagine ourselves to be in a situation in which we have to make decisions about how society should be organised although we do not know which position we would ourselves occupy in that society. That is, we do not know what kind of family we would be born in, whether we would be born into an ‘upper’ caste or ‘lower’ caste family, rich or poor, privileged or disadvantaged. Rawls argues that if we do not know, in this sense, who we will be and what options would be available to us in the future society, we will be likely to support a decision about the rules and organisation of that future society which would be fair for all the members. Rawls describes this as thinking under a ‘veil of ignorance’. He expects that in such a situation of complete ignorance about our possible position and status in society, each person would decide in the way they generally do, that is, in terms of their own interests. But since no one knows who he would be, and what is going to benefit him, each will envisage the future society from the point of view of the worst-off. It will be clear to a person who can reason and think for himself, that those who are born privileged will enjoy certain special opportunities. But, what if they have the misfortune of being born in a disadvantaged section of society where few opportunities would be available to them? Hence, it would make sense for each person, acting in his or her own interest, to try to think of rules of the organisation that will ensure reasonable opportunities to the weaker sections. The attempt will be to see that important resources, like education, health, shelter, etc., are available to all persons, even if they are not part of the upper class.//
Surely, nothing is bigger than life. But is not about just survival, isn't it? Let us not treat the less fortunate like farm animals where survival is the most important. I want to live my life with dignity, which is stripped away layer by layer if someone gets ahead of me due to their privilege and I am left behind with no fault of mine. I will raise my voice against it.
All the best to everyone. May a decision come which is acceptable to the majority.
Peace.
I was about to lay out all the point wrt to such attitude 😂😂 thanks for doing it.
People just read empathy , compassion ..etc for just upsc it seems . I don't know how can people be so apathetic towards others sufferings.
"Humans have become one of the most endangered species , as we can so rarely find someone humane enough to be called a human.
peace ✌️😎
@MaxBlack add "Amitabh bacchan and his clan infected with corona" too..
@MaxBlack he us asking for postponement not for wasting an entire year!
Katy_Singh,Bhai if they are able to just postpone, then well and good... Even i would support and many otgers..
But looking at things a postponement of 3 months,(considering that vaccine will be available by that time), would still be injustice according to the rawls theory of looking from the perspective of the worse off..
The underprivileged will be the last to be given vaccine..
So in that case, there is no other alterbatieve but to merge thr exam with next year.
This is my last comment on this topic, i rarely reply here, even though i have been in this forum for 5 years.
I would advise everyone to study like its going to be on 4th..i already wasted my time here, tou don't do that
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@MaxBlack add "Amitabh bacchan and his clan infected with corona" too..
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Anduin,
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