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Because of the corona virus issue? If it does not happen then worst affected will be people whose interview is stuck, around 600-700 such people I think are yet to appear for their interview.


@neyawn sir and others, what is your take?

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jack_Sparrow,curious_kidand137 otherslike this
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@gauravbrly409 bhai your reasoning is true that UPSC doesn't go to lexical terms. But your conclusion is false. Jo bhi ho, Constitution mein Basic Structure ka zikr kahi nahi hain (chahe woh defines/provides/pertains jo bhi ho).
In fact, by your reasoning, it can be extrapolated that Judicial Review is also not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution. So that also can be false (though it's just 'provides')


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@gauravbrly409 That 2019 question was lifted from indian express article direct.. hence both given..id u find source of this question, u can say the exact answer


gauravbrly409,
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@Raillife how much are you expecting?


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@gauravbrly409 don't you think its extreme ?


It sounds like that. however, such vague words used by upsc in previous years too and i concluded they are used mostly to convey general sense than a lexigraphic type checking. But , If it is extreme why the statement is worded like this. Just to check our english that put a stopover when your encounter defines by taking its literal meaning ???
Thanks.


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Is there any controversy on KCC as well ?

No controvery .. that is pure factual question. statements directly lifted from KCC document.


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@gauravbrly409 naa naa bhai... U r going too extreme now, first is totally false. Constitution have not defined... And they intentiaonlly made such statement, even the essence is on defines word


Then factually , LA can use rules of loksabha .. is false as per facts. But, 2019 key given it is as true.  the statemnt has word "can".. and it makes sense as speaker has full descretion for it. and .. There is nowhere written that Loksabha rules cant be used in LA>
Thanks .


That question was verbatim picked up from this article. I do not know where else it has been mentioned


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Going by the same logics why is Indian bureaucracy is limited to policy implementations only. It provides political stability (in broader sense) and works for economic development.


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@gauravbrly409 That 2019 question was lifted from indian express article direct.. hence both given..id u find source of this question, u can say the exact answer


That makes more sense.


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@Raillife how much are you expecting?


@Batmaan 

dont know exactly,between 80-85, actually, i missed some question to mark on omr,i dont know how many ans i have marked in omr between question number 80-100,time nhi mila mark karne ka


and in csat too i am on border

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Last year idhar bht mathapachhi kiya tha digital signature, clouds, LS Rules, PDT Achary, ramsar, etc etc..Iss baar toh man bhi nhi kr rha..bcoz upsc directy verdict deta hai answer key me..no if and buts...

I am scoring 103.33 from forum and ias baba, 105.92 from vision,drishti and shankar...hopeful of writing my first mains this time..

Last yr scored 96 in prelims..missed by 2 marks..lets hope for the best this time..

iss baar ka prelims toh luck factor pe bht jyada aa gya hai..2-3 tukke jyada/kam lage aur u r in/out..

@gauravbrly409 bhai kya haal hai..i hope u remember me..digital signature pe upsc sala 3 only hi diya ans:)..usi ki wajah se bahar ho gya sala mai last time..

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Going by the same logics why is Indian bureaucracy is limited to policy implementations only. It provides political stability (in broader sense) and works for economic development.


public policy is the umbrella term and it includes everything ranging from economic policy to social policy to providing polity stability. All other 3 statements are true but ..  functions defined under other ABC  are actually part of core work of public policy for which the bureaucracy exists. The question is tricky. i put 4 by this logic. Being a pub ad student, Public policy is the essence and reason for creation and existence of bureaucracy and - Public policy contains everything. Also, The word in "In Indian context"  is the trap - If you put A or B or C, Bureaucracy has all other functions too in other two statements. ... then .. how will you rank which function is of prime importance and others are secondary... Prima facie --- seems C is true. I was about to mark C, But, Thought - D is inclusive of all ABC. So, I have gone for D. Also, D is the basic work of Bureaucracy  all over the world and not only particular to India. Also, The basic work of public policy making, monitoring, evalution and inceremtal chnages takes care of everything as stated in A,B, C. So , I put D itself as answer.

you can differ from me. But, I believe D is most appropriate among all... Though C has  the strong feel of being right answer .. and A and B ranks low than C if we see the practical importance of bureux in india.


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@PercivalYes, statement 1 is definitely right because
1) Thequestion of age i.e 25 Years is only applicable for membership of the State legislatureandnot for being a Minister in a state(if he is appointed as minister without being member of state legislature)
2) Till the time a person is duly elected to state legislature as its Member,he can continue as Minister at leastfor6 months.
The question of his qualification/ disqualification by virtue of his age(<25 years) will only arise when he will fill election/ nomination papers for the membership of state legislature


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Going by the same logics why is Indian bureaucracy is limited to policy implementations only. It provides political stability (in broader sense) and works for economic development.


Public policy is umbrella term which subsumes all the functions stated in a,b,c.


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Shankar ias corrected its csat key...now it seems its RC answes r most reliable....they have done course correction... 1 or 2 may vary max from this RC answer and that's acceptable...
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@Raillife Accha, I would advise that agar 2 se jyada attempt ho gaye hai toh do take up something else and prepare. I can understand the agony and the pain we feel, when we think our dream is going far away. But seeing the trend of prelims exam, the more calm and stress free you are, better it would be for the  result.

I did the same last year and definitely helped me calm my nerves this time. 
All the best! 


Raillife,
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Tokyosaid

Tokyosaid

I have a score of 72 -75 in CSAT from various keys and above 110 in GS paper-1..Chances of me clearing CSAT?Giving me sleepless nights..

U can check revised key of shankar ..they have updated csat key...score will increase . 

It has increased my marks to 85 from current 75. I still think that 3-4 passages are a bit wrong like that Asset allocation, malnutrition etc. But I think I will keep running around in circles by checking different answer keys as in every key I am getting 70+ so I should be safe. Should start mains prep asap.


Same here but articles given by@Aurang_mirasudar  are real source....I cross checked with 2019 paper ..by looking into articles ..and upsc takes answers from that articles....assumption is first line verbatim around the image....so if u want to check answers which upsc will give...it is written in articles provided by aurang. 

In second it...

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Negansaid

@PercivalYes, statement 1 is definitely right because
1) Thequestion of age i.e 25 Years is only applicable for membership of the State legislatureandnot for being a Minister in a state(if he is appointed as minister without being member of state legislature)
2) Till the time a person is duly elected to state legislature as its Member,he can continue as Minister at leastfor6 months.
The question of his qualification/ disqualification by virtue of his age(<25 years) will only arise when he will fill election/ nomination papers for the membership of state legislature


The article 85 , I think it nowhere states as -  So, If you simple rely on that  -  Statement is ditto copied and true.
Also, the qualifications of minsiters are nowhere stated. So, A 18 year old person can be minister for 6 months. But, he cant be member of LA .. as he does not fulfills 25 year age criteria.. he has to give up ministership than. 
Deduction >>An 18 year person with voting rights can be a minister for 6 months only because any person can be a minister for 6 months without being member of house. The 25 year age criterian comes only in picture when you want to be member of house .. so .. you 18 year old can happy go to be a minister but beyond that -  you have to member of house which you cant be .. so cant continue beyond 6 months in any case.


But, If read it along with RPA and all , Then.. It makes all wrong.But, For this statement .. we do not even need to bring RPA. RPA does not states anything about minsters qualification or disqual. at all. Bringing RPa is unnecessary.



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i have very bleak chances to clear pre

after attempting this pre,i am planning to leave this preparation(nahi ho payega humse) and get back to IT jobs

aur ek man yeh bhi keh raha hai ki ab upsc ke sath sath dedicated baki PSC and non-banking exams ki bhi tayari karu(banks exam ki maths reasoning mere upar se jaati hai )

in upsc i can develop my logical guesses,is exam me bhi i applied some logical guesses and derived the ans,but andh tukka marke ans laanayeh completely us din aapki kisma kaisi hai uspe depend karta hai


seniors plz suggest how to prepare others psc exam and others exam dedicatedly with uspc,jisne qualaified kia ho plz reply....bpsc december me hai

@Sherkhan1428 @Patootie @SergioRamos 


 

Really can't comment much about that bhai. I hate State pcs exams, simply because they have questions like,

" Gandhi ji ke chashme ka number kya hai "

A ) 1.00022 B) 1.00023 C) 1.00024 D) tum se na ho paayega rehney do

UPSC still gives you the scope for reasoning. State PCS have minimal scope for that and hence i dont get the philosophy behind those exams. 

MY suggestion: Your mind right now is bruised and you are hurt a little. Allow it to recover.  Let nature take over and allow yourself to heal. If you still have chances to qualify, so be it. Cling on to it and prepare for the next 40 odd days. It will still be a win win at the end of 40 days , even if you don't qualify because you will have momentum and you can carry it into 2021.

Do not take such life altering decisions at this time because you will most likely choose an option which isn't the answer. Make what you will of that advice. But i hope you end up taking an informed decision. Cheer up and bounce back 1000 times harder. My prayers for your well being.

rahulgandhi,Auroraand6 otherslike this
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Last year idhar bht mathapachhi kiya tha digital signature, clouds, LS Rules, PDT Achary, ramsar, etc etc..Iss baar toh man bhi nhi kr rha..bcoz upsc directy verdict deta hai answer key me..no if and buts...

I am scoring 103.33 from forum and ias baba, 105.92 from vision,drishti and shankar...hopeful of writing my first mains this time..

Last yr scored 96 in prelims..missed by 2 marks..lets hope for the best this time..

iss baar ka prelims toh luck factor pe bht jyada aa gya hai..2-3 tukke jyada/kam lage aur u r in/out..

@gauravbrly409 bhai kya haal hai..i hope u remember me..digital signature pe upsc sala 3 only hi diya ans:)..usi ki wajah se bahar ho gya sala mai last time..

Even now i think 3 only is wrong ans.

But kya kare,upsc ne keh dia right hai matlab right hai. 

shubham4_m7770,
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Negansaid

@PercivalYes, statement 1 is definitely right because
1) Thequestion of age i.e 25 Years is only applicable for membership of the State legislatureandnot for being a Minister in a state(if he is appointed as minister without being member of state legislature)
2) Till the time a person is duly elected to state legislature as its Member,he can continue as Minister at leastfor6 months.
The question of his qualification/ disqualification by virtue of his age(<25 years) will only arise when he will fill election/ nomination papers for the membership of state legislature


The article 85 , I think it nowhere states as -  So, If you simple rely on that  -  Statement is ditto copied and true.
Also, the qualifications of minsiters are nowhere stated. So, A 18 year old person can be minister for 6 months. But, he cant be member of LA .. as he does not fulfills 25 year age criteria.. he has to give up ministership than. 
Deduction >>An 18 year person with voting rights can be a minister for 6 months only because any person can be a minister for 6 months without being member of house. The 25 year age criterian comes only in picture when you want to be member of house .. so .. you 18 year old can happy go to be a minister but beyond that -  you have to member of house which you cant be .. so cant continue beyond 6 months in any case.


But, If read it along with RPA and all , Then.. It makes all wrong.



That is why, in the question there is nowhere, any mention of RPA-1951. It only mentions the Constitution.


gauravbrly409,
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