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History Optional Students 2021- 2022

@SergioRamos never knew you had history optional!! 


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@Neyawn Relevance of IgNou is going high day by day! 


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What can be written under khalsa Evolution? 
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@SergioRamos I was thinking of like this
Can we divide the khalsa panth evolution into three part? 
1. As a group to fight against the soxio religious group
2. As a Confederacy
3. As a sikh Monarch
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@SergioRamos rise of ranjit singh!! 


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@SergioRamos Obviously See Punjab as a region was always agriculturally rich with a lot of traders residing there.. Infact their breakup from Mughal empire was a due to their economic superiority. But due to the Overtone of linking and rise of Punjab as an independent state that angle is never explored... And we don't find if ever lower caste asserted their power! 

Another reason is that sikhism the ethos of equality were dominant .So there is no mention of class. so if they did also it doesn't find mention in literature! 

P. s Personal opinion ->IgNou me toh Sikhism ache se nahi diya! 


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is it wise to say that jagirdari crisis led to rise of regional states.
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@Usain_bolt why don't we two to three person make a small group and post what ever resource we can collect.. 


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@Freakhoto Great idea. But I don't know anyone bhai.

I don't think resources is an issue. Every serious candidate knows it. The challenge is to consolidate itna sara gyan in a presentable manner. 

I you and@SergioRamos can do one.. 

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Kisi ke pass koi aur idea ho toh batao bhai

So Basically lets solve topic wise from upinder.. Just listing the sites.. ( Which is important) then Post pre we can focus on location and description what say? 

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@Usain_bolt l Mukherjee and ssh best hai bro


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What are the effects of aurangjeb religious policy?
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Bhai hum do mahine yehi bol rahe hi ki arya samaj ki tarah revivalist bante hai aur Thread ko bachate hain 😂

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Bhai hum do mahine yehi bol rahe hi ki arya samaj ki tarah revivalist bante hai aur Thread ko bachate hain 😂

Banate hain yaar. Exam cycle ka victim nahi banna. Have to get out as soon as possible. What are you doing at this moment?

World bro!! 

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What is your plan? I am currently studying medieval India from Satish Chandra. Plan is to go through the complete syllabus at least once before June. 

i have started medieval from ignou BA material. (did satish chandra +baliyan = my short notes for last 2 mains ) . will further enrich my content now. 

I don't know how many of u guys face this problem. But i feel History optional(paper 1 in particular) qs are super vague at times. 

for example- critically analyze the muslim nobility of tughlaqs -- bahut vague lga mujhe.

I mean what to analyse here - their role in consolidation of sultanat ,racial outlook, secular approach ,efficiency, corruption  ,stability of kingdom or what? Also gst , mbt & fst k time change ho rha tha ye sab .  so i found itextremely difficult to write it in 1.5 pages only.

Similarly in the qs- Evaluate the contribution of shershah towards trade & commerce ,admin and agri reforms. simply uske reforms  likhna h or uske impact ko analyze bhi krna h. I just mentioned his reforms in these areas nd concluded by writing -because of these reforms ,he is termed as Akbar's forerunner by  many historians.

some people say there is no difference bw evaluate and critically evaluate . what u guys wrote for this, if attempted there?

For ancient - Map section thik se krna h. sites in news recently and ignou ba material sites add karunga. abhi tak bas  ssh material cover kr rha tha. 


Bhai these questions look vague at first but actually they are very specific. In paper one quoting sources+ succinct articulation is the key. 

In these questions following things could have been done.

1. How nobility was an impediment throughout medieval history and how different rulers used different tactics to counterweight them? Quote the steps by iltutmish, razia, balban and then tughluqs in that order succinctly.

How was succession an issue throughout Islamic history?

Evolution of composite ruling class till tughluqs and how it became the cause of decline of Delhi sultanate. 

UPSC has asked questions on each one of these separately. In this question one has to just add all. Yes it can be done in 1.5 pages if you represent all this in flow chart forma and link them all.

Likh nai paoge itna sab.

2. In the sher shah(SS) question, one can draw two tables and analyse. Sher shah was in between Allauddin and akbar, not only in time scale but also in terms of development. Just draw two tables and show how SS updated Allauddin measures and then Akbar updated SS measures.

All of this can ONLY  be done if one has made thematic consolidated notes....recalling from the books wont work I guess

Did you make pyq solution? 

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What is your plan? I am currently studying medieval India from Satish Chandra. Plan is to go through the complete syllabus at least once before June. 

i have started medieval from ignou BA material. (did satish chandra +baliyan = my short notes for last 2 mains ) . will further enrich my content now. 

I don't know how many of u guys face this problem. But i feel History optional(paper 1 in particular) qs are super vague at times. 

for example- critically analyze the muslim nobility of tughlaqs -- bahut vague lga mujhe.

I mean what to analyse here - their role in consolidation of sultanat ,racial outlook, secular approach ,efficiency, corruption  ,stability of kingdom or what? Also gst , mbt & fst k time change ho rha tha ye sab .  so i found itextremely difficult to write it in 1.5 pages only.

Similarly in the qs- Evaluate the contribution of shershah towards trade & commerce ,admin and agri reforms. simply uske reforms  likhna h or uske impact ko analyze bhi krna h. I just mentioned his reforms in these areas nd concluded by writing -because of these reforms ,he is termed as Akbar's forerunner by  many historians.

some people say there is no difference bw evaluate and critically evaluate . what u guys wrote for this, if attempted there?

For ancient - Map section thik se krna h. sites in news recently and ignou ba material sites add karunga. abhi tak bas  ssh material cover kr rha tha. 


You talking about Paper 1? You need to look paper 2 they are super vague!! 

This question are more or less sab ek hi likhnge..!! Aur kaha se impact of such reform ka notes laye bhai.. Abhi Persian aur arabic sources thodi na baith k padhenge..!! 


I feel it's futile to keep banging our head. Even net pe nahi milta.. 


If you have a solution do let me know..!! 

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What is your plan? I am currently studying medieval India from Satish Chandra. Plan is to go through the complete syllabus at least once before June. 

i have started medieval from ignou BA material. (did satish chandra +baliyan = my short notes for last 2 mains ) . will further enrich my content now. 

I don't know how many of u guys face this problem. But i feel History optional(paper 1 in particular) qs are super vague at times. 

for example- critically analyze the muslim nobility of tughlaqs -- bahut vague lga mujhe.

I mean what to analyse here - their role in consolidation of sultanat ,racial outlook, secular approach ,efficiency, corruption  ,stability of kingdom or what? Also gst , mbt & fst k time change ho rha tha ye sab .  so i found itextremely difficult to write it in 1.5 pages only.

Similarly in the qs- Evaluate the contribution of shershah towards trade & commerce ,admin and agri reforms. simply uske reforms  likhna h or uske impact ko analyze bhi krna h. I just mentioned his reforms in these areas nd concluded by writing -because of these reforms ,he is termed as Akbar's forerunner by  many historians.

some people say there is no difference bw evaluate and critically evaluate . what u guys wrote for this, if attempted there?

For ancient - Map section thik se krna h. sites in news recently and ignou ba material sites add karunga. abhi tak bas  ssh material cover kr rha tha. 


Bhai these questions look vague at first but actually they are very specific. In paper one quoting sources+ succinct articulation is the key. 

In these questions following things could have been done.

1. How nobility was an impediment throughout medieval history and how different rulers used different tactics to counterweight them? Quote the steps by iltutmish, razia, balban and then tughluqs in that order succinctly.

How was succession an issue throughout Islamic history?

Evolution of composite ruling class till tughluqs and how it became the cause of decline of Delhi sultanate. 

UPSC has asked questions on each one of these separately. In this question one has to just add all. Yes it can be done in 1.5 pages if you represent all this in flow chart forma and link them all.

Likh nai paoge itna sab.

2. In the sher shah(SS) question, one can draw two tables and analyse. Sher shah was in between Allauddin and akbar, not only in time scale but also in terms of development. Just draw two tables and show how SS updated Allauddin measures and then Akbar updated SS measures.

All of this can ONLY  be done if one has made thematic consolidated notes....recalling from the books wont work I guess

Did you make pyq solution? 

I have not made standard answers on PYQs till now but I will make it in next few months. But yes, I have analysed PYQs deeply and I can say there is a pattern. 

Okay okay. What's your sources for medieval then? 

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What is your plan? I am currently studying medieval India from Satish Chandra. Plan is to go through the complete syllabus at least once before June. 

i have started medieval from ignou BA material. (did satish chandra +baliyan = my short notes for last 2 mains ) . will further enrich my content now. 

I don't know how many of u guys face this problem. But i feel History optional(paper 1 in particular) qs are super vague at times. 

for example- critically analyze the muslim nobility of tughlaqs -- bahut vague lga mujhe.

I mean what to analyse here - their role in consolidation of sultanat ,racial outlook, secular approach ,efficiency, corruption  ,stability of kingdom or what? Also gst , mbt & fst k time change ho rha tha ye sab .  so i found itextremely difficult to write it in 1.5 pages only.

Similarly in the qs- Evaluate the contribution of shershah towards trade & commerce ,admin and agri reforms. simply uske reforms  likhna h or uske impact ko analyze bhi krna h. I just mentioned his reforms in these areas nd concluded by writing -because of these reforms ,he is termed as Akbar's forerunner by  many historians.

some people say there is no difference bw evaluate and critically evaluate . what u guys wrote for this, if attempted there?

For ancient - Map section thik se krna h. sites in news recently and ignou ba material sites add karunga. abhi tak bas  ssh material cover kr rha tha. 


You talking about Paper 1? You need to look paper 2 they are super vague!! 

This question are more or less sab ek hi likhnge..!! Aur kaha se impact of such reform ka notes laye bhai.. Abhi Persian aur arabic sources thodi na baith k padhenge..!! 


I feel it's futile to keep banging our head. Even net pe nahi milta.. 


If you have a solution do let me know..!! 

You dont have to go for primary sources bro. If you have time, just go through Satish Chandra+ Ignou. Ye sare points wahi se hai. 

I feel satish is a bit outdated

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Has anyone made notes from Shekhar Bandopadhyay?

Bhai gaurav Aggarwal has made

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Has anyone made notes from Shekhar Bandopadhyay?

You intend to make it now?

Hoping so, if time permits. Thoda extra hustle to karna padega agar list me naam chahiye I feel.
@Freakhoto , do you have a link to his notes?

Superman returns google karlo pura khazana hi mil jayega

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Let's do one thing! 

Let us just post question here and no need of answer writing with pen and paper just contribute what you know? 

Sounds cool or not let me know! 

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"The spirit behind the great reforms of Napoleon's Consulate at home was the transference of the 
methods of Bonaparte the general to the task of Bonaparte the statesman."
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"The spirit behind the great reforms of Napoleon's Consulate at home was the transference of the 
methods of Bonaparte the general to the task of Bonaparte the statesman."

Critical examine

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How is optional going on guys?

World history chal raha bhai.

What about you? 

Ancient. Upinder Singh. Saath me mapping.
Btw, what was your map score and you think 45+ possible hai?

My scores are not out yet so I have no idea. plus is baar acha ni hua tha! :/

Exact scores toh pata nai yar but I got 16 correct.

Considering they might be giving 2 marks to the absolute best and 1.5 to avg ones , I think 45+ is thoda zyada ambitious.

40+ is doable I guess. But for that also your points have to be top notch

I am hoping 35-40! For me 40 is too ambitious and 35 is moderate.. 

Because in map it's too objective chance .. If pointed wrong.. Gaye bains paani me..! For me any thing 35+ is a win win situation..! I don't know if I am focus on achieving less.. But itna mera experience ne shikaya!! 


Over Doing Map in hope that tough sites v ache se kar lenge is too rich for my blood

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How is optional going on guys?

World history chal raha bhai.

What about you? 

Ancient. Upinder Singh. Saath me mapping.
Btw, what was your map score and you think 45+ possible hai?

My scores are not out yet so I have no idea. plus is baar acha ni hua tha! :/

Exact scores toh pata nai yar but I got 16 correct.

Considering they might be giving 2 marks to the absolute best and 1.5 to avg ones , I think 45+ is thoda zyada ambitious.

40+ is doable I guess. But for that also your points have to be top notch

There is this book called Map Practice for History Optional. Doing that. Will add self-study history material over the top. I think it will be sufficient. Thoughts?

Bhai.. Self Study is concise that I know

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Ye baki history wale kaha mare pade rehte hai

@Luffy @Freakhoto zinda ho bhi ki nai?

Arey Hum yehi hai.. Aap nahi aate ho..!! Actually I am reading Italian unification..! I need some discussion give me your Telegram id in DM..! Will discuss some previous years that's it.. 

After all democracy discussion helps everywhere even in studies also 😉

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Luffysaid

Kindly check from Drishti waala ek baar . After this video , I had almost given hope of mains :(

Could you post the link? 

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@SergioRamos Lage raho bhai. Aap ki 4 members ki community , hamare PSIR ki pata nhin kitni. :)

@Usain_bolt Na Na , belong to PSIR. Bas dekhne aayi thi aap logon ka haalchaal , sergio bhai ka comment dekh ke PSIR thread par.


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Okay so my turn.

I have given 2 attempts. Got okay score in optional in 2019 but horrible in GS( two 70's score in 2 GS Papers). Since I was fresh out of college I anyway didn't have much expectations.

This year I have flunked prelims itself. I was totally devastated after this, to the extent that I completely forgot I have anything to do with UPSC. Went back home for a month and came back with mindset to begin things from scratch. Threw away all my Old notes. That was also the time I came to know about forum. I used to DM some of the great guys here like whatonly qoqo and azandhindfauz and ask them everything as if this is my first attempt.

Coming to optional, SergioRamos is right. The only reason I got decent score in my first mains was because I had handmade notes ready for most part of syllabus. This time since I had enough time,  I have made my optional notes again( 3rd time).

Most of the questions are very predictable if you have read standard books well+ analysed PYQs. I believe optional is my strong area. Let's see kya hota hai.




Yes. Adding to that predictability part, in the last 7 years, if you analyse Medieval History questions- 3 common areas where questions are asked( If not regular, then every alternative year) are

Mughal Painting

18th Century India

Vijaynagara Empire

Similar is the pattern for all parts of History. 

Eggzactly!!

Topics are fixed, syllabus fixed aur puchenge bhi kaha se.

The problem in history is connecting the Dot and giving proper explanation.. Or justification to be precise.. What people do is mere stating of facts especially in paper 2 both in modern and world.. And if you see paper 2 marks people have huge variation and see paper 1 marks almost sab ke same or at least in range.. And another thing which optional guys should take care of is GS history and Optional different ball game

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Okay so my turn.

I have given 2 attempts. Got okay score in optional in 2019 but horrible in GS( two 70's score in 2 GS Papers). Since I was fresh out of college I anyway didn't have much expectations.

This year I have flunked prelims itself. I was totally devastated after this, to the extent that I completely forgot I have anything to do with UPSC. Went back home for a month and came back with mindset to begin things from scratch. Threw away all my Old notes. That was also the time I came to know about forum. I used to DM some of the great guys here like whatonly qoqo and azandhindfauz and ask them everything as if this is my first attempt.

Coming to optional, SergioRamos is right. The only reason I got decent score in my first mains was because I had handmade notes ready for most part of syllabus. This time since I had enough time,  I have made my optional notes again( 3rd time).

Most of the questions are very predictable if you have read standard books well+ analysed PYQs. I believe optional is my strong area. Let's see kya hota hai.




Yes. Adding to that predictability part, in the last 7 years, if you analyse Medieval History questions- 3 common areas where questions are asked( If not regular, then every alternative year) are

Mughal Painting

18th Century India

Vijaynagara Empire

Similar is the pattern for all parts of History. 

Eggzactly!!

Topics are fixed, syllabus fixed aur puchenge bhi kaha se.

Yess! Ek baar bas poore notes ban jaen na, Idk why but I feel something terrific can happen!

Thats a utopia Notes Kabhi poore nahi hote.. Jo hai usme hi mains likho aur koshish kare ki sab ache se likh paye jitne v padhe hain.. Baaki bhagwan malik

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You guys seems so organized.. Wish I could adapt some qualities! 
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You guys seems so organized.. Wish I could adapt some qualities! 

Itne hi organised hote to ye 3rd attempt na hota! :P

Bhai isbar toh mehnat kar rhe ho nikal jayega!! 

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