Mains 2021: Doubt and strategy discussion thread

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Patootiesaid

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Patootiesaid

deceptrixsaid

Sample Answer.pdf

Hello, can any audit my Sample answer. 

Here I am taking 20 min to write this answer. Suggestions need as on- Content, Structure, Keywords, and How to improve on the time aspect. 

ODR answer.pdf

Good question, tried writing an answer to it. Obviously, lots of scope for improvement, but I think it touches upon the core issues. :)

Broadly agree with what@TheNotorious mentioned in his detailed review of your answer. In addition:

1. Answer is too long.

2. I think the answer misses the core demand of the question. Key components and issues in implementation have not been asked. They have asked prospects. As a second part, they've askedwhether you agreethat it can givemorepeople access to justice and ease burden on courts. I think the crux of the question is to analyse why ODR may present an improvement over the present situation, not necessarily who all can access justice with ODR or the benefits of ODR.

Issues in implementation (page 4) should ideally only be a point to show that ODR may not be feasible.

3. In UPSC answer sheets, less is always more simply because there is no time.

Of course, I am a novice at this; so, do take my words at face value only. Ignore if you don't find the approach correct or disagree with my approach. :)

 

Tried writing it better since I think it is an important topic for CSM 2020.

ODR final.pdf

Effing brilliant ! Sorry bro, just stole all your points :)

value addition: in the point where you showcased how online filing saves wastage of paper (right to environment), you could also bring in more technical dimensions like, online filing reduces administrative expenses of courts which areessentially charged on the consolidated funds of the states/center.

Biradarsaid

competentsaid

can anyone please share the strategy for Ethics paper ? is it necessary to read all thinkers for this paper ?

Yes. Thinkers should not only be learned but also actively used in other papers for multidimensional analysis. You can use the idea of rawls in favor of UBI and gandhi against UBI. So that's how it works

SergioRamossaid

I need some help. I'm an absolute newbie to ethics. Haven't read a word before. I have been suggested to watch Atul Garg's ethics lecture series. It is a 30 lecture series. Should I go for it is it the right way to go ahead?
With score hovering around 98-100, I may clear Prelims so in need of a smart strategy for ethics.
Another query, 2nd ARC's Ethics In Governance. 140 pages document. Should do or not?

deceptrixsaid

@Patootie 

Thanks for your comments.

My take - 

1. Classical Topper Emulation Syndrome - You are trying to emulate the basic features of Anudeep's answer without building a capacity for the same. Just using arrows, vertical tree in introduction, and long conclusion with SDG is what you are trying to emulate. But here's the catch - scores are based on the points/content/structure/presentation and not on overall appearance. This may boost your confidence but not your marks in final exam until your answer is of that level. I know this because I know people who have done this before.

2. In your 3rd point, you have written that courts are using paper - so Courts themselves are violating Art 21? I mean really? Whose FR? 

3. Another classical syndrome of providing an expert comment but not an answer to validate the same. You are just providing 3 points to effectively validate in a 15 markers question assuming paper wala point is wrong! That is - Accessibility, Accountability and Capacity utilization.  I think these are subsets of the number of points that I mentioned.

4. You yourself has declared that with 3 effective points of yours you are touching all the core points while my answer is far away from it even though I too have talked of Accessibility, Capacity Utilisation (Village people, Multitasking, Pending cases) plus many other points.

5. You said ODR description is not asked/needed and end up giving the types of Alternative Dispute Resolution methods - Mediation, Conciliation, etc? Was that demanded. This is another Classic Syndrome of excessive faith in one's answer. 

I do agree that I have to cut short on components, I could have made a diagram here. But description of the concept is a common principle which many topper suggest.

And please don't get offended. This is the process of learning. And there is no final stage. Even I am in the process of learning and improving. But if you think deeply whatever you are saying is already reflected in some or the other points I covered.

I will post more answers and hope more constructive criticism and suggestions. Please try that Welfare scheme wala question. 

Thanks

whatonlysaid

@deceptrix i am not getting into the content because I don’t think I have enough practice yet to be able to review someone else’s answers, but please consider being more respectful here. Contrary to what you said this is NOT the process of learning. Nobody learns, or even gains anything, by being unnecessarily defensive about their own answers or coming up with new syndromes to diagnose someone who is taking time out of their day to help you. He was respectful in his review - you could have ignored it if you did not agree (as he himself said). Those points could actually have been made as constructive suggestions without questioning Patootie’s merit and motives.  Everything after the first line in your comment was unnecessary and actually harmful to the spirit of this place. Why will anyone try to help anyone here if all they’re going to get in return is a diagnosis and a lecture? And do you really need to defend your answer to a stranger on the internet if you think you’re still right? And to say please don’t get offended... it’s like punching someone and saying please don’t let it hurt. You’re right in saying that we’re all still learning and improving, but I think basic courtesy is something we can all be good at even if we’re not at writing answers.

balwintejassaid

@SergioRamos Watch in 1.5X speed. You don't have the luxury of time as you need writing practice also for ethics. And please make notes simultaneously as definition and difference between every point mentioned in the syllabus like attitude, aptitude, objectivity is required. I would suggest one more thing, for every topic and syllabus, pause the video for a minute and write down relevant personal examples. 

That's it. 

deceptrixsaid

@whatonly  

Misunderstood my comment. 

Emulating a topper answer was written in positive sense. Even I do it. Last year Kanishka Kataria too said that he emulated AD's answers. Just see his blog. Actually I am a deep thinker and have observed almost all the good answers of toppers since 2017. In fact have slept on them, eaten them, digested them. So, it might seem different/unusual to you but I and my friends keep discussing from where we can get what.

  So here I wanted raise a bigger issue - that if someone just emulate the answer (which is fine and clever) without building capacity i.e exhaustive practise - it might go against you. Today, toppers copies have become a great way to speeden up your preparation but it may pull you down if your content and structure doesn't matches. Everyone does what they are comfortable at - that doesn't mean others can do it with that comfort.

And many people today try to emulate the answers but most of them are unable to successfully because lack of practice and non realisation of one's own capacity/inherent talent - to which I and friends call as Toppers Emulation Syndrome.

Here I felt so, and with utter respect I gave my suggestion (taking Forumias respecting my Freedom of Speech and there is no Ombudsman for proving what is respectful and what's not)

There is one more Syndrome - that is hounding some with suggestions/lectures without clarifying what other person wants to say/mean! This is Moral policing.

Whatever I have written is with due respect and is logical and truthful. He could have debated and give his counter arguments. 

You said that he has given his comments reasonably which I agree except the declaration that - his answer covers the core issue and my answer doesn't cover the core issue. Which I have given reply for. I never said that my answer was perfect but I know it wasn't worst. But how can a person declares something for his own answer? I never did that.

All I want in the end is the set of robust answer writing principles which have came after multiple round of debates and questioning. That's it! 

Whatever I spoke was truth and the person to whom it is directed knows it very well deep inside. 

I value truth more than sensitivity.

Thanks

Respecting Freedom of Speech and Free Internet where no one is an Ombudsman and noone except legitimate body decides what is respectful and what's not (and opposite party is asked for clarification).

Buddhijeevi Parsadsaid

balwintejassaid

@SergioRamos Watch in 1.5X speed. You don't have the luxury of time as you need writing practice also for ethics. And please make notes simultaneously as definition and difference between every point mentioned in the syllabus like attitude, aptitude, objectivity is required. I would suggest one more thing, for every topic and syllabus, pause the video for a minute and write down relevant personal examples. 

That's it. 

I would suggest  you not to make notes out of his dictation. Rather buy the orient booklet. 

He dictates almost everything from that booklet.

While watching you can highlight them in the booklet and later on jot down phrases, specific points for quick revision and retention.

whatonlysaid

Buddhijeevi Parsadsaid

balwintejassaid

@SergioRamos Watch in 1.5X speed. You don't have the luxury of time as you need writing practice also for ethics. And please make notes simultaneously as definition and difference between every point mentioned in the syllabus like attitude, aptitude, objectivity is required. I would suggest one more thing, for every topic and syllabus, pause the video for a minute and write down relevant personal examples. 

That's it. 

I would suggest  you not to make notes out of his dictation. Rather buy the orient booklet. 

He dictates almost everything from that booklet.

While watching you can highlight them in the booklet and later on jot down phrases, specific points for quick revision and retention.

Hey I found a pdf online. It’s handwritten and some 380 pages long. Would that be the one?