Subscribe to ForumIAS

Mains 2022 - All Papers PDF + R**** Rona + Paper Discussion

Guys, Essay Paper is over. How was it?

DM,Oshoand33 otherslike this
1m views

2.3k comments

yar but in all seriousness, this is so not done. what if someone actually doesnt understand hindi??

That can happen. Last year in prelims ->Vijaynagar  "Soothsaying" question I got wrong because , I can't read hindi version where it mentioned "Bhavishyavani".

In an exam where 1 mark determine many ranks and in out of prelims list ->this is a genuine concern.


Few years ago, there was this mains gs1 question "cryosphere "question. Many didnt know what cryosphere was. But those who read hindi version addressed that mains question effectively.

bhai main kya bolu. its absolutely disgusting. infact main hindi nai padha tha essay chose karte time. ye topic immediately samajh aa gaya. but agar main ise choose karta without knowing hindi tab toh pakka phas jata main. not because i dont know hindi but because of applying too much mind.

@Capedcrusader1chill. Looking like there is communication gap. I am not arguing with you . I thought u mentioned that not knowing hindi can be disadvantage in previous comment. I was supporting your comment by giving example.



Yea am mixing two things Here 

not knowing Hindi and doubting one’s intuitions in one go 

3.1k views
@Capedcrusader1 non hindi wale ko answers likhte time jyada nhi sochna padta hai...non-hindi states ke bache english me kaafi quickly produce kar paate hai thoughts ko...aur market me material ki quality english language ki kaafi achhi hai..


"non hindi wale ko answers likhte time jyada nhi sochna padta hai"

"non-hindi states ke bache english me kaafi quickly produce kar paate hai thoughts ko"


Bro, thats not the case. :)

That might be a positive stereotype. But not true.

There is no difference in hindi, non hindi people in terms of thought process or writing in English.

translation lag is always there. however quantum of lag varies

3.3k views
@Panchayat yes circumstances are nothing but ecological view.. bro

Mai upar likha hu..ecological view... Matlab ecology pe sab depend hota.. 


At even nokia analysis ecological view pe hai.. duniya Android ja raha tha.. ye nokia windows pe laga tha... Sab ecology hai bhaiya

haan nokia wala example circumstances without control ke liye fit hai........

3.2k views
Deleted
,
3k views
@Capedcrusader1 non hindi wale ko answers likhte time jyada nhi sochna padta hai...non-hindi states ke bache english me kaafi quickly produce kar paate hai thoughts ko...aur market me material ki quality english language ki kaafi achhi hai..


"non hindi wale ko answers likhte time jyada nhi sochna padta hai"

"non-hindi states ke bache english me kaafi quickly produce kar paate hai thoughts ko"


Bro, thats not the case. :)

That might be a positive stereotype. But not true.

There is no difference in hindi, non hindi people in terms of thought process or writing in English.

translation lag is always there. however quantum of lag varies

sorry, I didnt get it.


3k views
yar but in all seriousness, this is so not done. what if someone actually doesnt understand hindi??

That can happen. Last year in prelims ->Vijaynagar  "Soothsaying" question I got wrong because , I can't read hindi version where it mentioned "Bhavishyavani".

In an exam where 1 mark determine many ranks and in out of prelims list ->this is a genuine concern.


Few years ago, there was this mains gs1 question "cryosphere "question. Many didnt know what cryosphere was. But those who read hindi version addressed that mains question effectively.

bhai main kya bolu. its absolutely disgusting. infact main hindi nai padha tha essay chose karte time. ye topic immediately samajh aa gaya. but agar main ise choose karta without knowing hindi tab toh pakka phas jata main. not because i dont know hindi but because of applying too much mind.

@Capedcrusader1chill. Looking like there is communication gap. I am not arguing with you . I thought u mentioned that not knowing hindi can be disadvantage in previous comment. I was supporting your comment by giving example.



Yea am mixing two things Here 

not knowing Hindi and doubting one’s intuitions in one go 

sorry, I didn't understand what you were saying before.

I thought you were calling me disgusting. So, I was saying it was miscommunication.

No I’m not calling you that.

the fact that language barrier is helping a set of aspirants to decode the demand of essay much better than other set of aspirants is disgusting 

3k views
@deepakY aaapko hindi translation ek baar padh lena chahiye tha. 


I got this lesson from my father. He said that you might attempt the paper in English but you will always be more comfortable with hindi. so if you ever get stuck in understanding the question, try reading hindi version and you may understand the core demand of the question. very nice lesson.

As a Non hindi person, I have clear disadvantage with the exam.


Chalo DMK ko approach karte hein. Kuch Hal niklega.

ab toh waise bhi hindi hi chalegi so.. kahin jao

We protest.

people have problem with a sign of station mentioned in hinthi? why?

Hindi has equal respect as other languages. But can a state of up or bihar has station name in Tamil or Telugu. The answer is no. So why in south. The fight is for equality, not hatred against language. Respect is a two way street.

Why will bihar and up have signboards of southern languages 

how many South Indians live there 

Leave bhai it’s all about accommodation 

Same argument can be against hindi imposition in south.How many north Indians live in south. What's the utility of hindi sign board. You expect south people to learn hindi for accommodation, then north Indians can learn any south languages for sure. I hope you do.

4.6k views
Deleted
'
Panchayat,
3k views
@Panchayat bro ab mai pure 1000 words to na likh sakta yaha.. bank bhi bhi yaar acche acche project NPA ho jate. Kisi k mismanagement k liye kisi bank staff/exe ko letter milte and corruption charges lagte.  To kya decisions la le.. kya us banker ka decision loan dena galat tha.. ab upar se bhgwan bhi aa gaye to vo loan na dega.. 😃

NHAi walo bhi reason hote. 



Aisa hi Gyan bata hai mere bhai.. we should have choices.. UPSC lelo.. last me bhi na nikla to kya choice galat tha.. choice was right but outcome na aya.. 


We should take choices we are proud of.. 

3.5k views
Please end this language debate ASAP. it  is going haywire.
3.2k views
Please end this language debate ASAP. it  is going haywire.

OK.Ceasefire.

Panchayat,
4.5k views
@Panchayat abhi he dekho BYJU dub raha.. jab vo peak pe tha , to kisi bank ne loan diya hoga..aj vo galat sabit ho jayega.. aise se to kabhi choice hi na lege kabhi unicorn hi na banege.. 

Aise tone pe hai aise.. 


I only follow those topic.. jo dil ko touch karte jispe 8000 words bhi likh sakte.. essay should be natural from writers heart.. it should not look artificial piece of literature, according to western definition of essay .



Upsc me to alag randap muchaya hai.. multidimensional k nam se.. isi liye i said..meko kitne marks milte ye na tension mujhe.. but I wil write orignal essay from heart


Ayushi7,Panchayat
3.4k views
@deepakY aaapko hindi translation ek baar padh lena chahiye tha. 


I got this lesson from my father. He said that you might attempt the paper in English but you will always be more comfortable with hindi. so if you ever get stuck in understanding the question, try reading hindi version and you may understand the core demand of the question. very nice lesson.

As a Non hindi person, I have clear disadvantage with the exam.


Chalo DMK ko approach karte hein. Kuch Hal niklega.

ab toh waise bhi hindi hi chalegi so.. kahin jao

We protest.

people have problem with a sign of station mentioned in hinthi? why?

Hindi has equal respect as other languages. But can a state of up or bihar has station name in Tamil or Telugu. The answer is no. So why in south. The fight is for equality, not hatred against language. Respect is a two way street.

Why will bihar and up have signboards of southern languages 

how many South Indians live there 

Leave bhai it’s all about accommodation 

Same argument can be against hindi imposition in south.How many north Indians live in south. What's the utility of hindi sign board. You expect south people to learn hindi for accommodation, then north Indians can learn any south languages for sure. I hope you do.

han yar sahi h aise h ladna chie. whataboutery style

2.9k views
although i didn't attempt that scientific man, romantic man question, I would love to have insights for this essay from the peers who attempted this....kaafi tough lag raha tha ye essay, proper example hi samajh nhi aa the the...read somewhere that Enlightenment is more associated with natural science while romanticism is more closely linked with arts and humanities. aise me toh ye quote humanities ko low pedestal pe rakh raha aur natural science ko high pedestal par...
3.1k views
although i didn't attempt that scientific man, romantic man question, I would love to have insights for this essay from the peers who attempted this....kaafi tough lag raha tha ye essay, proper example hi samajh nhi aa the the...read somewhere that Enlightenment is more associated with natural science while romanticism is more closely linked with arts and humanities. aise me toh ye quote humanities ko low pedestal pe rakh raha aur natural science ko high pedestal par...

scientific mean is self explanatory. but its not just man and its not just scientific. it about rationality and logic. and its about countries and leadership being open minded. romanticism is about sensationalisation and being driven by emotions. it has to do with setting goals based on delusions not founded on any rational basis. 

russia's invasion on ukraine is based on restoring a lost territory in order to re-establish former ussr.this is bizzare and driven by romantic mindset. 

however romanticism is also needed. it provides eenergy for action. eg elon musk going to mars. he wishes to colonize it. 

we need to reconcile the two as both are needed. humans have limitless abilities and his thought process is very complex as it is most evolved. 

india specific content is also needed which i put

Panchayat,
2.9k views
Deleted
@MC Cullum I think in "choice" wala essay, the meaning of the question was, that most of the times,

In life, the available choices may all be bad, but we have to chose n the lesser among the evils" for example, in 2016 us election, most Americans were of the viewpoint that both Donald trump and Hillary Clinton are bad choices, but we have to chose between them. Closing either doesn't mean the one which we chose is necessarily a good choice but it is good among the choices we have

2.5k views

I am north indian, working in South India.. ye debate na khatam hona. They are very proud of their languages and all languages are classical. So they think it's their right to protect. 

They think that incursion of Hindi is danger to their own language which is in main stream for 1000s of years.

They take Hindi and southern classical language debate as cultural strife. 


Why  should I learn  ? Ye Hindi wala bolta south me jake.. and south wale to bol hi rahe why should I learn Hindi.. lol

Hindi is just an another language.. India is similar to EU.. vaha bhi languages ka chiwda hai. Pakistan me lelo.. bahuto ko Urdu na ati . I stayed in middle East.. bahut to Punjabi bolte.. Urdu na ati





Kenshein,
3.3k views
@deepakY aaapko hindi translation ek baar padh lena chahiye tha. 


I got this lesson from my father. He said that you might attempt the paper in English but you will always be more comfortable with hindi. so if you ever get stuck in understanding the question, try reading hindi version and you may understand the core demand of the question. very nice lesson.

As a Non hindi person, I have clear disadvantage with the exam.


Chalo DMK ko approach karte hein. Kuch Hal niklega.

ab toh waise bhi hindi hi chalegi so.. kahin jao

We protest.

people have problem with a sign of station mentioned in hinthi? why?

Hindi has equal respect as other languages. But can a state of up or bihar has station name in Tamil or Telugu. The answer is no. So why in south. The fight is for equality, not hatred against language. Respect is a two way street.

Why will bihar and up have signboards of southern languages 

how many South Indians live there 

Leave bhai it’s all about accommodation 

Same argument can be against hindi imposition in south.How many north Indians live in south. What's the utility of hindi sign board. You expect south people to learn hindi for accommodation, then north Indians can learn any south languages for sure. I hope you do.

han yar sahi h aise h ladna chie. whataboutery style

Ladna aisye chaiye on language issue.

Capedcrusader1,
4.3k views
although i didn't attempt that scientific man, romantic man question, I would love to have insights for this essay from the peers who attempted this....kaafi tough lag raha tha ye essay, proper example hi samajh nhi aa the the...read somewhere that Enlightenment is more associated with natural science while romanticism is more closely linked with arts and humanities. aise me toh ye quote humanities ko low pedestal pe rakh raha aur natural science ko high pedestal par...

scientific mean is self explanatory. but its not just man and its not just scientific. it about rationality and logic. and its about countries and leadership being open minded. romanticism is about sensationalisation and being driven by emotions. it has to do with setting goals based on delusions not founded on any rational basis. 

russia's invasion on ukraine is based on restoring a lost territory in order to re-establish former ussr.this is bizzare and driven by romantic mindset. 

however romanticism is also needed. it provides eenergy for action. eg elon musk going to mars. he wishes to colonize it. 

we need to reconcile the two as both are needed. humans have limitless abilities and his thought process is very complex as it is most evolved. 

india specific content is also needed which i put

good....content and line length overall...appreciable..

Capedcrusader1,
3k views
@Capedcrusader1trigger acha kr rhe aap idhar :p

Every language is good and should be respected. Jiska jo mann kre learn, any imposition is wrong.
The bare minimum hindi which helps during travel is present at railway station signboards everywhere. People and places near tourist places in south and other places know that bare minimum to accommodate everyone. So, we should also try to accommodate others grievances.

@MC CullumIts good to take pride in one's culture. But any hyper pride wont do anyone good.

I do have one argument. Southern leaders are very under-represented in Delhi power politics. Just one PM from south. I feel that their reluctance to accommodate Hindi will not let them become mass leaders like Modi etc with a wide support base. Maybe a little Hindi can enable us to see great mass leaders from South as PMs in Delhi in future.Thats my thought. You can disagree.

PS - I respect every language. Lived 2 years in Bangalore. Still regret that I could not learn Kannada. :)




Shinchen_makingUsigh,
3.1k views
Write your comment…