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[ Official ] How was the Prelims 2021 paper?

How was the paper guys ? 

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@GOT8 why dont  u do it, with ur given sources, might be helpful.


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@parle ji_ even I marked c for that...but later ingotbabdoubt that even if we know ratio of numbers we can get the sum


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@Jurgen_klopp it was also in news. 


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Any chance of Copper smelting answer be D (1,2 and 3)?

https://haz-map.com/Processes/119

plmokn25688524,Hornbill
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Ishita dube page 340

plmokn25688524,
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Can anyone pls suggest any good test series for ethics?
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Please file representations regarding all such questions, with the sources which deem worth it.

Today (6 PM) is the deadline, and prompt use of the representation portal shall be more helpful than arguing here on forum.

Similar to past many years, it is less likely that UPSC will entertain these requests unless there's a grave error on their part. But in any case, if anything has to come, it'll come due to such official representations, and definitely not because of pointless debates here.

So let's just do what's in our hands. And then move on.

PICERAS,
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@GOT8 u could file representation by today, as both A and B do seem correct now


Upsc is not asking representation for answer. They are asking representation for incorrect questions if any.

plmokn25688524,
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@Shubz oh ok. thanks.


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@bhuvanamalar1015412 http://www.ppup.ac.in/download/econtent/pdf/State.pdf
Option A verbatim lifted from here. Don't see any reason for it to be wrong.


you cant be sure about it cause of similar wording.state could be non sovereign too and thats why i think a is wrong.,I could be wrong too.I just believe it is b 

Pol science me theory of state me pdate hai State = Soveregnty+people+territory+Govt. Option A satisfies this criteria.I marked B despite knowing this fml


The funny thing is Shubra ma'am ke notes me verbatim likha h Ar-14 is not rule of law, it is just equality before law. Still in her prelims discussion video, she says that the given statement is a violation of rule of law, so the answer will be article 14. TBH I was expecting her to give a different answer but it seems answer key bnate time sab nayi theories bnane shuru kr dete hai :p 

P.S.- I marked Ar 32 as the answer.

A 32 is correct. The question is about when *subject matter of legislation is itself overarching* 

A14- It is about application of law per se. Second , The subject matter can be challenged on the ground of irrational classification. 

A32 - Subject matter of any law which violates any FR can be challenged under it. 


In the statement *discretion to the administrator and unlimited power to bureaucrat* tramples on right to freedom , right to equality or any FR per se because if Administrator has unregulated descretion in decision making - He is ready to make decision legally which ay hamper any FR. 

So, Impact analysis of such law tells that - The problem is in subject matter of law which may led to violation of any FR  due to any irrational decision coming out of administratorial descretion. 

So , It is Article 32.

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Jo jo debate karna vo aajhi bandh karo. Kal se fresh start. If you are fresher (1,2 attempts) prepare hard for mains. It will be useful for next year, if you won’t qualify. And  If you are veteran then search for other alternatives for next 10 days and plan accordingly. 🙌🏻🙂

This is my third attempt, but I  dont feel like a veteran. 🥲 hate that tag 😂

Master,
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@gauravbrly409 your argument is appealing


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State definition :

answrr - 

(b) A politically organized people of a definite territory and possessing an authority to govern them, maintain law and order, protect their natural rights and safeguard their means of sustenance


why not a 

1. A Community (a nation can have to be a community but state can have many communities. ex Indian state , American state both have heterogeneous communities)

2. Permanently living from long time ( It is not required whether they are permanently living from long time or not for creating and maintaining state 

For ex - Israel ) 

Baaki aur bhi hai a to hoga hi nahi.


why B 

1. Politically organization ( State is political organization which may only come in existence by virtue of writ, decree or constitution... There can be different type of states but it is politically organized ) 

2. Definite territory ( yes .. mandatory because ..state is up to there up to where its writ being accepted by people in a territory  . As per loose concept of nation can be in 2 or 3 states based om situation for ex Irish people. But nation state is where community and government both have same alignment  ) 

3. Authority - Most basic and very important feature. There can ne no state without presence and exercise of authority.

4. rest of all are self explanatory


Source - Read ncert of poltical theory that is gold standard for this question. ok



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@gauravbrly409 your argument is appealing


My optional was pub ad. So, I cant falter onsuch things. 

PRO TIP - NCERT 6 to 12 is gold standard for all debatable political theory question. Experience. UPSC always take that one correct for polity whatever NCERT is saying. so go through chapters of NCERT and go bavk to basics and decide for yourself. 

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A 32 is correct. The question is about when *subject matter of legislation is itself overarching* 

A14- It is about application of law per se. Second , The subject matter can be challenged on the ground of irrational classification. 

A32 - Subject matter of any law which violates any FR can be challenged under it. 


In the statement *discretion to the administrator and unlimited power to bureaucrat* tramples on right to freedom , right to equality or any FR per se because if Administrator has unregulated descretion in decision making - He is ready to make decision legally which ay hamper any FR. 

So, Impact analysis of such law tells that - The problem is in subject matter of law which may led to violation of any FR  due to any irrational decision coming out of administratorial descretion. 

So , It is Article 32.

kuch smjh nhi aaya kya kehna cha rhe ho XD
Answer uska Article -14 hai
 Article 32 is not constraining Administrators , it's just a tool to operationalise the Rights and gives them teeth. Article 32 is violated when Parliament takes away Judicial Review powers, not when administrators act arbitrarily. Discretion = Arbitrariness = unequal application of law= no equality before law or equal protection of law.




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State definition :

answrr - 

(b) A politically organized people of a definite territory and possessing an authority to govern them, maintain law and order, protect their natural rights and safeguard their means of sustenance


why not a 

1. A Community (a nation can have to be a community but state can have many communities. ex Indian state , American state both have heterogeneous communities)

2. Permanently living from long time ( It is not required whether they are permanently living from long time or not for creating and maintaining state 

For ex - Israel ) 

Baaki aur bhi hai a to hoga hi nahi.


why B 

1. Politically organization ( State is political organization which may only come in existence by virtue of writ, decree or constitution... There can be different type of states but it is politically organized ) 

2. Definite territory ( yes .. mandatory because ..state is up to there up to where its writ being accepted by people in a territory  . As per loose concept of nation can be in 2 or 3 states based om situation for ex Irish people. But nation state is where community and government both have same alignment  ) 

3. Authority - Most basic and very important feature. There can ne no state without presence and exercise of authority.

4. rest of all are self explanatory


Source - Read ncert of poltical theory that is gold standard for this question. ok



Is  dominion state not a state? Because it is not sovereign? 

I marked b, thinking of this logic. 😅😅

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D503said

D503said

Jokarsaid

@bhuvanamalar1015412 http://www.ppup.ac.in/download/econtent/pdf/State.pdf
Option A verbatim lifted from here. Don't see any reason for it to be wrong.


you cant be sure about it cause of similar wording.state could be non sovereign too and thats why i think a is wrong.,I could be wrong too.I just believe it is b 

Pol science me theory of state me pdate hai State = Soveregnty+people+territory+Govt. Option A satisfies this criteria.I marked B despite knowing this fml


The funny thing is Shubra ma'am ke notes me verbatim likha h Ar-14 is not rule of law, it is just equality before law. Still in her prelims discussion video, she says that the given statement is a violation of rule of law, so the answer will be article 14. TBH I was expecting her to give a different answer but it seems answer key bnate time sab nayi theories bnane shuru kr dete hai :p 

P.S.- I marked Ar 32 as the answer.

A 32 is correct. The question is about when *subject matter of legislation is itself overarching* 

A14- It is about application of law per se. Second , The subject matter can be challenged on the ground of irrational classification. 

A32 - Subject matter of any law which violates any FR can be challenged under it. 


In the statement *discretion to the administrator and unlimited power to bureaucrat* tramples on right to freedom , right to equality or any FR per se because if Administrator has unregulated descretion in decision making - He is ready to make decision legally which ay hamper any FR. 

So, Impact analysis of such law tells that - The problem is in subject matter of law which may led to violation of any FR  due to any irrational decision coming out of administratorial descretion. 

So , It is Article 32.

kuch smjh nhi aaya kya kehna cha rhe ho XD
Answer uska Article -14 hai
 Article 32 is not constraining Administrators , it's just a tool to operationalise the Rights and gives them teeth. Article 32 is violated when Parliament takes away Judicial Review powers, not when administrators act arbitrarily. Discretion = Arbitrariness = unequal application of law= no equality before law or equal protection of law.


Exactly!!


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D503said

D503said

Jokarsaid

@bhuvanamalar1015412 http://www.ppup.ac.in/download/econtent/pdf/State.pdf
Option A verbatim lifted from here. Don't see any reason for it to be wrong.


you cant be sure about it cause of similar wording.state could be non sovereign too and thats why i think a is wrong.,I could be wrong too.I just believe it is b 

Pol science me theory of state me pdate hai State = Soveregnty+people+territory+Govt. Option A satisfies this criteria.I marked B despite knowing this fml


The funny thing is Shubra ma'am ke notes me verbatim likha h Ar-14 is not rule of law, it is just equality before law. Still in her prelims discussion video, she says that the given statement is a violation of rule of law, so the answer will be article 14. TBH I was expecting her to give a different answer but it seems answer key bnate time sab nayi theories bnane shuru kr dete hai :p 

P.S.- I marked Ar 32 as the answer.

A 32 is correct. The question is about when *subject matter of legislation is itself overarching* 

A14- It is about application of law per se. Second , The subject matter can be challenged on the ground of irrational classification. 

A32 - Subject matter of any law which violates any FR can be challenged under it. 


In the statement *discretion to the administrator and unlimited power to bureaucrat* tramples on right to freedom , right to equality or any FR per se because if Administrator has unregulated descretion in decision making - He is ready to make decision legally which ay hamper any FR. 

So, Impact analysis of such law tells that - The problem is in subject matter of law which may led to violation of any FR  due to any irrational decision coming out of administratorial descretion. 

So , It is Article 32.

kuch smjh nhi aaya kya kehna cha rhe ho XD
Answer uska Article -14 hai
 Article 32 is not constraining Administrators , it's just a tool to operationalise the Rights and gives them teeth. Article 32 is violated when Parliament takes away Judicial Review powers, not when administrators act arbitrarily. Discretion = Arbitrariness = unequal application of law= no equality before law or equal protection of law.


Can hou challenge under article 14 ques is that?

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