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[Results] Prelims 2020 Over - Gearing for 2021

Because of the corona virus issue? If it does not happen then worst affected will be people whose interview is stuck, around 600-700 such people I think are yet to appear for their interview.


@neyawn sir and others, what is your take?

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Agogsaid

leave all ur issues and watch ths IAS Nadini Maharaj2018.Ill mood swing frm ths 2 civils in Indian ethos evoke deep public service commitment??

It is not gud to blame anybody what he used to do and live. 

Believe in goodness of people and ... most of people changes for good. 

On the contrary, I know so many officers .. who are icons in their life before selection and just after selection too .... Peach for all aspirants... But , Now .. I just hate those people just because they are hypocrite or may be system had changed them for bad. I do not name anybody but you can guess those people. 

Always remember , Balmiki was a bandit and Murderer .. but wrote Ramayana. 

Ravana was a man of high intellect but a fallen person in his life. 

Nothing is permanent. Even you do not know .. what you claim to be today as a person... will stay remains the same after going in to the service. 

But whatever, Always strive to bring good and virtuous changes... ! Change is only constant vo to hoga hi ... what matters is ... DIRECTION of change. 


Plz change DM hathras for good.🤣

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Correct.. 2019 key me 9 Different hai sankar ke UPSC official key se.

And .. Nobody is reputed ... because .. all are more or less same.  Good for static but .. No institute cam figure out or teach dynamic syllabus properly. .. and so is the answer key.

Aur .. aaj kal I doubt static knowledge of institutes too. 

Sankar made a mark by Environment material though. That book is really great. But , I would say ...There is no permanency in reputation. Teachers change, MANAGEMENT changes.. institute culture changes and so be the reputation changes and falls many a times. 

Agreed ....there was a time ( when gs 1 of prelims was less important and people used to qualify pre with csat) when static portion was given a lot of importance because to write good answers you are required  to be rock solid with static knowledge.Then ,came 2016 prelims paper .A complete current affairs oriented paper .From there on coachings made a paradigm shift in their approach .Every Tom ,Dick ,Harry scheme of government has become a topic of detailed discussion. Craze of current affairs has reached to a level that in the last couple of months of preparation (before the exam )students read only current affairs and government schemes .Basic books like NCERT ,spectrum and Lakshmikant are not even touched .Coachings having realised this demand and are busy pumping in more and more current affairs.Meanwhile ,focus on developing good static content and updating it with time is ignored .

And .. I am really sick of .. Lot of institutes who proliferated under the disguise of teachIng Current Affairs .. become a ful fledged IAS academy... teaching everything up to interview .. and with questionable intents. 

For ex :

last minute offer .. 200 schemes 500 Rs. 

International org. all in 3 hours 1100 Rs 

etc etc.

Barbaad to inhone kara hai baccho ko. Its like a chaat shop now ..  You can pick and choose ingredients as per will. and so on so forth. 

But, This year paper(even hint was there from 2017) ki .. ye Nahi chalega... Properly pad ke aao to hi ache marks aayenge. 

Anyway... Free country. 

Equalizer,
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I asked around 50 people on forum for their cutoff prediction.

Results were

>98    4 percent

96-98  45 percent

94-96  45 percent

<94    6 percent

There has been a lot of discussion on answers and now discussion on cutoff should also end .All the best for mains to everyone clearing prelims.


You should ask them if that includes the gandhi irwin thing. Am getting a feeling that it will be deleted

Masum_Ladka,
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I asked around 50 people on forum for their cutoff prediction.

Results were

>98    4 percent

96-98  45 percent

94-96  45 percent

<94    6 percent

There has been a lot of discussion on answers and now discussion on cutoff should also end .All the best for mains to everyone clearing prelims.


You should ask them if that includes the gandhi irwin thing. Am getting a feeling that it will be deleted

Even if it will be deleted or retained .. does not make much difference . 

14.8k views

I asked around 50 people on forum for their cutoff prediction.

Results were

>98    4 percent

96-98  45 percent

94-96  45 percent

<94    6 percent

There has been a lot of discussion on answers and now discussion on cutoff should also end .All the best for mains to everyone clearing prelims.


You should ask them if that includes the gandhi irwin thing. Am getting a feeling that it will be deleted

Even if it will be deleted or retained .. does not make much difference . 

Obviously it won't. But on deletion the cutoff will be 2 or more marks less. Why so? Coz this is a question that most have done correctly. It was prolly "the easiest" or one of the easiest 5 questions in the paper. So you get my point? If there were 25 easy questions, now it becomes 24, with one of the easiest gone.

gauravbrly409,
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@Biradar I asked them.These include Gandhi Irwin Q.They may do something like giving both 1 or 1,2,4 for Hindi students.Wont delete the question.Would be unjust to all other languages.


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I asked around 50 people on forum for their cutoff prediction.

Results were

>98    4 percent

96-98  45 percent

94-96  45 percent

<94    6 percent

There has been a lot of discussion on answers and now discussion on cutoff should also end .All the best for mains to everyone clearing prelims.


You should ask them if that includes the gandhi irwin thing. Am getting a feeling that it will be deleted

Even if it will be deleted or retained .. does not make much difference . 

Obviously it won't. But on deletion the cutoff will be 2 or more marks less. Why so? Coz this is a question that most have done correctly. It was prolly "the easiest" or one of the easiest 5 questions in the paper. So you get my point? If there were 25 easy questions, now it becomes 24, with one of the easiest gone.

I got your point.

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Agogsaid

leave all ur issues and watch ths IAS Nadini Maharaj2018.Ill mood swing frm ths 2 civils in Indian ethos evoke deep public service commitment??

It is not gud to blame anybody what he used to do and live. 

Believe in goodness of people and ... most of people changes for good. 

On the contrary, I know so many officers .. who are icons in their life before selection and just after selection too .... Peach for all aspirants... But , Now .. I just hate those people just because they are hypocrite or may be system had changed them for bad. I do not name anybody but you can guess those people. 

Always remember , Balmiki was a bandit and Murderer .. but wrote Ramayana. 

Ravana was a man of high intellect but a fallen person in his life. 

Nothing is permanent. Even you do not know .. what you claim to be today as a person... will stay remains the same after going in to the service. 

But whatever, Always strive to bring good and virtuous changes... ! Change is only constant vo to hoga hi ... what matters is ... DIRECTION of change. 


Plz change DM hathras for good.🤣

Some cases are  *Gone cases* .

Biradar,
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@Biradar I asked them.These include Gandhi Irwin Q.They may do something like giving both 1 or 1,2,4 for Hindi students.Wont delete the question.Would be unjust to all other languages.


I doubt this thing. I don't think they will be giving marks "just" to hindi folk or anything. That's because a lot of people generally read both hindi and English translations of qs before answering. 


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@Biradar UPSC knows best 


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@Harcourtian You're right dear. But this is not expected from a reputed institute.


Bhai ..agar AAP unki pehli key dekhte csat ki toh "reputed " word use bhi nhi krte

+1

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@Biradar I actually have a doubt regarding this,as far as I could remember UPSC does not separately ask for medium of answering at prelims stage, and if that is true then it is not at all possible to distinguish between hindi and english medium students.
Equalizer,
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» show previous quotes

Correct.. 2019 key me 9 Different hai sankar ke UPSC official key se.

And .. Nobody is reputed ... because .. all are more or less same.  Good for static but .. No institute cam figure out or teach dynamic syllabus properly. .. and so is the answer key.

Aur .. aaj kal I doubt static knowledge of institutes too. 

Sankar made a mark by Environment material though. That book is really great. But , I would say ...There is no permanency in reputation. Teachers change, MANAGEMENT changes.. institute culture changes and so be the reputation changes and falls many a times. 

Agreed ....there was a time ( when gs 1 of prelims was less important and people used to qualify pre with csat) when static portion was given a lot of importance because to write good answers you are required  to be rock solid with static knowledge.Then ,came 2016 prelims paper .A complete current affairs oriented paper .From there on coachings made a paradigm shift in their approach .Every Tom ,Dick ,Harry scheme of government has become a topic of detailed discussion. Craze of current affairs has reached to a level that in the last couple of months of preparation (before the exam )students read only current affairs and government schemes .Basic books like NCERT ,spectrum and Lakshmikant are not even touched .Coachings having realised this demand and are busy pumping in more and more current affairs.Meanwhile ,focus on developing good static content and updating it with time is ignored .

And .. I am really sick of .. Lot of institutes who proliferated under the disguise of teachIng Current Affairs .. become a ful fledged IAS academy... teaching everything up to interview .. and with questionable intents. 

For ex :

last minute offer .. 200 schemes 500 Rs. 

International org. all in 3 hours 1100 Rs 

etc etc.

Barbaad to inhone kara hai baccho ko. Its like a chaat shop now ..  You can pick and choose ingredients as per will. and so on so forth. 

But, This year paper(even hint was there from 2017) ki .. ye Nahi chalega... Properly pad ke aao to hi ache marks aayenge. 

Anyway... Free country. 

The blame should be equally shouldered by irresponsible megalomaniacs who once they see themselves in the list will take money from such institutes to sell "hacks" in the name of crash course and be inspiring junta to do more mocks religiously in their pep talks.

If the only selling pitch the coachings have is to show those 20 25 questions (that anyone could have done reading laxmikanth, and even after that giving wrong answers, as in preamble and minister one) then they should hang their heads in shame.

The ROI of doing mocks is tbh pretty poor. Rather do PYQ to get feel of such things like marking D in snt. 


Same goes for mains. You are the content differential. Everyone will write mains 365. But go the extra mile and get better content. It does get rewarded. Not so much in gs, but in essays and optional, its the game changer.


Lastly. And very importantly. The whole fear regarding prelims is much less for IFOS bunch. I mean a guy preparing for ifos almost always has a 8 10 mark edge over a civilguy. Upsc since 2017 has very very sincerely made a paper where at least some questions will give ifos people privilege. Things just took a nasty bend this year. The fact that a civil guy has to know nasty little known facts about forests, and ecology, which aren't even gonna be anywhere in his domain, is pretty much laughable.


Also, if you think next year se hum agri ka booklet padhke jaenge, wait before UPSC makes some SEBI/RBIesque paper 😂🤣

Raajupsc,gauravbrly409
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I asked around 50 people on forum for their cutoff prediction.

Results were

>98    4 percent

96-98  45 percent

94-96  45 percent

<94    6 percent

There has been a lot of discussion on answers and now discussion on cutoff should also end .All the best for mains to everyone clearing prelims.


You should ask them if that includes the gandhi irwin thing. Am getting a feeling that it will be deleted

Off course it would be deleted or all awarded marks both same thing.

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Irwin qus does nt impact so much but if nalsa qus gets cancelled which i think is valid it ll have a impact ...  comparative distance of 2.67 ll be breached ..    There are are many states in india whr income limit is less than 2lakhs under section 12h of nalsa act . 

I have sent pdf version of this webpage in my representation


https://nalsa.gov.in/faqs

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Nalsa question actually looks wrong in all sense, if legal services authorities meant nalsa, then there is annual income limit of 9000 rupees no mention of transgender or senior citizen (source:nalsa.gov.in) and in case it  meant any authority then also it is wrong as some states give it to transgender and some give it to all senior citizen and no such option having both of them.Lets actually give representation for it in case some one has not given any representation which if more in no would force upsc to think about it in serious manner.
apurvathakre23,
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@rafael I think lets not project this question in the representation in this manner because if below 2 lakh is allowed then for sure below 1 lakh is allowed and similarly for transgender case if it is for free then it doesn't matter whether the limit is 2 lakh because they are just the subset of a larget set. I will just say for those who answered it as 1, 4..please put a representation on the lines I just mentioned above.I have actually already given representation for another question otherwise I would have done for this question for sure which till yesterday I thought is wrong only.


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Which is the most reliable key for csat passages?
Micro,
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@rafael I think lets not project this question in the representation in this manner because if below 2 lakh is allowed then for sure below 1 lakh is allowed and similarly for transgender case if it is for free then it doesn't matter whether the limit is 2 lakh because they are just the subset of a larget set. I will just say for those who answered it as 1, 4..please put a representation on the lines I just mentioned above.I have actually already given representation for another question otherwise I would have done for this question for sure which till yesterday I thought is wrong only.


How can a transgender with income of 1lakh 50k get benifit in a state whr income limit is 1lakh ??  I dnt understand ur less than 2lakh logic . 1lakh 50k is also less than 2lakh but the person ll nt get benifit in majority of states

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